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K lambert
Saturday 6th May 2017
11:17 pm U.K.

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Hi

Be interested in knowing if anyone else here keeps getting the 'Palsite is busy' message when trying to access this site during the day?

......Kevin

Rich
Monday 8th May 2017
8:19 pm U.K.

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Hi all.

I've recently been given a Sony SLHF100UB. It has a slight problem when playing back shop bought pre recorded and ex rental tapes. The picture at the bottom of the screen has a tracking line and the hifi sound goes off. If I pause, rew search or fw search the line goes for a few seconds and the hifi comes back then goes back to acting up. Oddly when the tape is about halfway through playing both picture and sound are fine. This doesn't happen on tapes recorded with off air stuff.

Any suggestions would be great please.

Rich.

Gabriel
Tuesday 9th May 2017
8:18 pm U.K.

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Rich,

First thing to suspect under these symptoms is the pinch roller. Just remove it and slightly rub the rubber against a soft sand paper to see if something improves.

Also check for dirt or contamination on the CTL head and capstan shaft.

Hope to be helpful.

Rich
Wednesday 10th May 2017
2:11 pm U.K.

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Gabriel.

Thanks for the info. I'll try that and let you know if its cured the problem

Regards

Rich.

Rich
Thursday 11th May 2017
3:16 pm U.K.

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Gabriel.

I cleaned and rubbed the pinch roller with some fine sandpaper and it's done the trick! All tapes play and record perfectly now. Many thanks.

I just need to get hold of an intact front right control panel flap and it'll be looking good.

Regards

Rich.

Martin Evans
Friday 12th May 2017
1:36 pm U.K.

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Hopefully the chat page is beginning to return to normal now. There have been quite a lot of changes under the hood, but hopefully it will now be a lot more responsive.

Search results also now show newest results first.

Bjorn
Friday 12th May 2017
8:27 pm U.K.

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Interestingly I picked up a Sony SL-HF100UB on ebay for 20 as scrap. Initially wanting the machine for spares, as you know how difficult they can be to get.

Usual faults listed, front-load damaged, buttons broken and/or not working. The video took 5 minutes to repair and is now functioning as new. Bargain!!!

I haven't worked on one of these before, so just wondering how reliable they actually are? Worth using to replace my C9?

Oh, whilst mentioning the C9, thanks Frandid for all your help, my machine is now working, in the end there was a fault in the audio circuit, and we made a DC to DC converter. All good now whilst the repair holds up.

Gabriel
Saturday 13th May 2017
4:09 pm U.K.

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Rich,

That's great news. So glad to see it was helpful!

Bjorn,

You got a really good bargain. As far as I know the HF100, it is basically a C30 with all the HiFi stuff. Power supply is different but the whole transport system is the same, including the carriage.

For me, it is not comparable to a C9. They are completely different machines . C9 's transport is unique yet beautiful, but it lacks HiFi. Linear stereo is not something really remarkable for me. On the other hand, it is by far less reliable than the HF100.

I would keep both, they complement each other.

Noel Higgins
Saturday 13th May 2017
11:49 pm U.K.

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Martin,

Thanks very much for doing all those updates to the chat page processes.

It seems some people like to enjoy making virus's, malware and bots etc more than joining in a useful endeavour, which is a pity.

regards Noel

David
Sunday 14th May 2017
4:41 am U.K.

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HI,

I am looking to hire a Umatic player to transfer my tapes to PC.

I guess 1- 3 days max.

I am in Sydney.

Any suggestions please?

Thanks

David

Noel Higgins
Sunday 14th May 2017
5:26 am U.K.

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Gabriel,

You are right on with your comment of keeping both.

Linear stereo does not play back properly on a mono machine (even the HF100AS) so you need the C9 for those tapes.

The best machines to do both types of stereo audio are the SLO1700 or even a HF100P if you can get one.

The SLO170 has the C9 mechanism and the HF100 heads. Pity it does not include a real time counter.

cheers Noel

Rich
Sunday 14th May 2017
9:28 am U.K.

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Hi all.

Does anyone have a spare flip down control panel flap for a Sony slhf100ub with the locating lugs intact for sale please? I'm in the UK if that helps.

Thanks

Rich.

Frandid
Sunday 14th May 2017
7:23 pm U.K.

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Hello Betamax addicts !

I couldn't connect to this chat page until now. (Tried almost every day).

Bjorn I'm glad you repaired your SL-C9.

Concerning the SL-HF100 I think it is a very basic unit with HiFi sound, but no slow motion, reverse play etc. I wouldn't put money on it but if you get one for almost nothing it's a good bargain ! And if you don't like it you can always sell it on Ebay !

Regards.

PS : I am still looking for a RMT-217 original SL-T50 remote.

Sandro Pertini
Monday 15th May 2017
12:04 pm U.K.

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Dear friends ,

I have several SONY FLEXCART BFC-1 units available for sale , fully working and complete .

Anyone needs them ?

I would accept any reasonable offer :)

Bjorn
Wednesday 17th May 2017
8:48 am U.K.

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Thanks Frandid,

I agree with our about the HF-100, very very basic, in fact I much prefer the C9, but it's still a good machine, will be keeping hold of this one.

It still needs a little more TLC work inside (don't they all!) at the moment the power block is being refurbished, more preventative maintenance than fault finding.

On the C9, the drum as failed, and although almost repaired, the hall effect sensor is faulty so will have to be replaced.

I'm working on another C6 at the moment, power supply failure, rather than not coming out of standby, this one has the opposite, so perhaps someone has put the diode in the wrong way around. Also the usual with this machine, servo caps, speed issues, and worn idler (for now I just turned the tyre around for a temporary repair whilst waiting for spares to arrive)

Gabriel
Wednesday 17th May 2017
6:25 pm U.K.

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One of the most interesting things regarding the HF100 is reliability. You can own a true stereo HiFi machine with the ease of maintenance of a C20 / C30.

The HF150 is also a worth keeping beta, but it suffers from common issues the F30 / F60 chassis do.

Best regards,

Gabriel

Frandid
Saturday 20th May 2017
12:23 pm U.K.

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Hi Gabriel

The SL-HF150 looks more interesting than the HF100, what are the commun issues it suffers ? (I don't know the "F" series). I don't think this model was available in pure SECAM (the HF100 was) but I saw PAL/SECAM units on ebay in the past. It might interest me some day to complete my little collection with my SL-C9 F, SL-HF950ES and SL-T50ME.

To Which chassis series would you say the SL-T50ME belongs, it is a PAL/SECAM/NTSC machine with no real time counter but with slow motion and 2X speed. I like it as much as my 2 others, it has an outstanding picture in SECAM. But the 9X speed is the worse I ever saw ! Not important.

Regards.

Gabriel
Sunday 21st May 2017
3:00 pm U.K.

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Dear Frandid,

The HF100 and the HF150 don't differ so much in terms of features and capabilities. The main issues the HF150 has in common with F30 and F60 (the whole 'F series' is wide, covering a lot of different models) is the carriage being very delicate. Particularly, the last tooth of one of the gears is prone to break. This break is not easy to solve, as long as it means getting a "donor" for spares or trying to fix it with composite glues (needless to say, 3D printing is getting more and more affordable...). After that, it means re-aligning the carriage assembly.

The other annoying issue is the break of the beginning tape sensor spring bracket. However, this can be easily fixed in some different ways.

Apart from the above, we have to take into account the common issues: loading black gear, Hall sensors, torque issues, lack of clearance on the idler motor, capacitor aging...

However, in most cases it depends on how well has "survived" a particular unit along the years. Storage conditions and previous maintenance routines play an important role here.

I haven't ever seen an HF150 Secam or combined PAL/Secam (maybe a " HF150 PS"?). But I wouldn't be surprised Sony had distributed such variant at a given period.

On the other hand, the T50ME is clearly a C20 / C30 chassis (711B) with some modifications. The multistandard capabilities usually imply changes on the video and tuner boards, but the mecha section might be re-used with little mods. The trick speed modes normally have to be with servo mods and given the need of perfect pause, a third video head (which at the same time forces some changes at the heads preamp board).

I have owned two or three T50MEs, it is a hard-to-find beta machine. However, if I had to choose on a multistandard beta, I would pick an SL-800ME: it is a more modern machine with real time counter and infinite smoother operation, among other nice features. However, they are like hen's teeth. I have owned it only once (with its original remote!).

You have a collection of singular and very nice machines, representing the variety of technology that Sony put into beta machines. Keep them up and running!

Noel Higgins
Tuesday 23rd May 2017
11:25 pm U.K.

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Gabriel,

It is possible to fix the load gear broken tooth issue as follows using a technique similar to bridgework in dentistry.

The repair is sort of a belt and braces fix and you may notice in doing the repair that there is not much plastic under the last tooth which is why it breaks off because the mechanism is under spring tension the whole time that a tape is loaded. The plastic becomes brittle with time and eventually breaks. Sharing that load be the last two teeth solves the problem.

Use a soldering iron to plastic weld the tooth back into its original position.

Get a small pin and bend it into a "squared off" U shape with the base of the u being the same distance as the space between the tooth centers of the last and second last teeth. Clip off the pin head side diagonally with some side cutters to make a slight point that side as well.

Then use a circuit board or suitable small drill the same diameter as the pin wire to drill two holes one in the center of the last tooth and one in the second last tooth and insert the U shaped metal form work through the holes and bend the legs over at the other side before trimming off the excess.

Re the HF150, the machine is not as reliable as the HF100 overall as it has another issue the power supply IC. However both are good for transfer work if you solve their "issues".

regards Noel (betaheaven.com)

K lambert
Tuesday 23rd May 2017
11:33 pm U.K.

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Hi Noel,Gabriel and Frandid:

Noel that PSU issue you mention with the HF150 does that also apply to the T30me.

I have one here that had numerous bad caps but upon replacing them this PSU still buzzes and whistles with no clock panel illumination at all.

In regards to that common broken tooth on the loading hatch mechanism.

I purchased some new and used spares from a retired engineer and to my delight this included quite a few of those gears for the F30 loading and also a few for the 'C' and HF100 series too. Hav'nt seen that issue for a time though and only on two F30 's

.....Kevin

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