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Monday 27th February 2017

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Walter Steenvoorden
Tuesday 19th October 1999
7:08 pm U.K.

waltersn@zonnet.nl

Yep they still make them, their only hard to get, Tapes BV here in Hilversum still sells them new, ass (i think) all big resellers of videotapes do. The oxide tape are only used for SuperBeta and Betacam (Non SP) machine's. They also work excellent with the PCM -F1 digital audio coder.

Jon Slade
Monday 18th October 1999
7:21 pm U.K.

cameraman@produxion.com

Hi all,

I was wondering if Sony still make Beta Oxide tapes...?

As for my Beta kit - well, I see enough SP/SX/DigiBeta during my day job, but as a "collector", I have; BVV1/BVV3P, BVW15P(DT/SP), BVW40P, BVW200P (1989 SP camcorder + full shooting kit).

RegardsJon Slade

ROLAND PICKETT
Sunday 17th October 1999
9:15 pm U.K.

rpe@sitesource.co.uk

Hi Tom. Just found this page. Cel are now Snell & Wilcox and were at Saffron Walden.I've got some bits if you want then - P147-32 /P148 maurice etc.

Martin Evans
Saturday 16th October 1999
8:04 am U.K.

martin@palsite.com

Hi Michael,

Try sending Bob Armstrong an email. I assume from your emailaddress that you are in Israel?

Bob (sales@lrcvideo.com) deals with both new and second hand units and also exports. Hope this helps.

sales@lrcvideo.com

Michael Halpern
Friday 15th October 1999
7:55 am U.K.

novaco@netvision.net.il

Looking to buy PVW 2800 or BVW 75 or 70 in good working conditions

Martin Evans
Thursday 14th October 1999
4:16 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

Take a look at the new updated accessories pages on the site. There are now over 50 items listed.

http://betacam.palsite.com/acc_index.html

Steve Woodgate
Saturday 9th October 1999
8:20 pm U.K.

Steve@SVITV.co.uk

LOOKING FOR A BVW10 OR SIMILAR, I WANT TO SEE IF MY BVV1 BETACAM PORTABLE WORKS!!!, MIND YOU IT'S DAMN HEAVY WITH A BVP3 CAMERA ON THE FRONT...

Peter Phipp
Saturday 9th October 1999
9:15 am U.K.

peterphipp@globalnet.co.uk

Wanted a betacam SP recorder . Must be reasonable condition and price, I would consider a faulty unit. Also have for sale a Sony DXC537 Camera body and CA537 back without lens Excellent condition 1350.Peter (020)8878 2226

Tom Mountford
Friday 8th October 1999
9:11 pm U.K.

tom.mountford@talk21.com

Howde everyone,

Just dropping by to see if anyone knows how I read the hours meter on my BVW-10. I'm used to just pressing a button and having a menu appear with a list, none of this reading a little pin going across a scale stuff. The little pin's all the way across so I guess that means a lot of hours on the drum.

I've given the CEL a good going over and found the source of the white tearing, the output video voltage preset was set wrong. I also found a torn track on the colour carrier card where a bulky component had been wrenched. The old thing works just fine now, runs damn hot though - I could fry an egg on that massive heatsink at the back!

Walter Steenvoorden
Friday 8th October 1999
4:35 pm U.K.

waltersn@zonnet.nl

He merijn de e-mail is onderweg, 'k heb donderdags wel effies tijd.

And yes i just love every thing Mac. Almost no crashes, more preformance and all the top professional software available. I saw cubase for win NT (On a P-III 733 with 128 megs!!) last week, it preformed less then the Mac version would do on a 64MB G3 266 Mhz iMac

Merijn van den Berg
Friday 8th October 1999
11:22 am U.K.

fantv@hotmail.com

Zit die walter een beetje een Sony 2000 te kopen. Geld te veel ofzo?

Actually my BVU800 is still not working properly. Maybe you've got some time this week to come by in Bussum? I was thinking of next thursday or friday.

I think Mac-Lovers like the icon above the 'enter your chatmessage below'.

Isn't it Walter? Guess you only like G4 Avid Equiped macs.

Bye Bye

Walter Steenvoorden
Wednesday 6th October 1999
7:58 am U.K.

waltersn@zonnet.nl

I know the B-67 our radio division used it trough the 80's. I myself have a A-80 Stereo with an "enhanced" meter brigde with RTW Plasma meters. I still rely on it alot. Although my Sony PCM7010 does most of my 2 track work, i still use the old studer a lot. I like to edit with sticky tape and splicerknives. I use it mainly to get 16mm and 35mm with sync-ed 2 track thru the telecine with sync-ed audio (since the controlconnecter (the big multipin above the capstan control) works with the tele-cine). But nowadays there's almost no production on 16 or 35. It's all HDCAM or DVCPRO 100 Megabit HD over here. Too bad i kindda liked film...

Tom Mountford
Tuesday 5th October 1999
7:16 pm U.K.

tom.mountford@talk21.com

Hi Walter, I've also got an old CEL catalogue that my dad got when they were fitting out a new suite about fourteen years ago. All the prices have been noted down and the cheapest kit started at 10,000 pounds (my pound-sign key's bust) for stuff that's chucked out for nothing today. The P147 is very sturdy, steel frame and dual thickness metal panels all over - they don't build kit like that anymore! Yeah, I first began cutting tape when I was a kid on a huge old Studer B67 in its trolley with the monitor bridge and everything, huge and unweildy but damn-near indestructible. This new digital stuff is absolutely fantastic but you have to handle it so carefully or all the little flaps and knobs get broken off.

JSP
Monday 4th October 1999
11:22 am U.K.

umatic@bigpond.com

Hi there,The only CEL I have ever heard of is a company who released pre recorded movies onto the domestic markets on video8, betamax and VHS in the 80's.

JSP
Monday 4th October 1999
11:22 am U.K.

umatic@bigpond.com

Hi there,

Walter Steenvoorden
Monday 4th October 1999
9:24 am U.K.

waltersn@zonnet.nl

I just found an old catalogue from MIT Technologie GMBH duetschland wich has some component video mixers made by CEL. I think that the company was taken over by Thomson Broacast UK, but don't know for shure. I once worked with a video mixer from NBA never heardt of them, but it was good, sturdy and had "studer"-like knobs. As with my old 2 track studer open reel to reel, that means that its almost indistructable

Steve Woodgate
Sunday 3rd October 1999
1:01 pm U.K.

Steve@SVITV.co.uk

Hi Tom,CEL are still in business (albeit taken over) but I cannot remember who by, all I do know is that a PSU for the next version of the 147-20 was over 300-00p, all that for a switch mode 5/12 v unit!!and manuals are like rocking horse....

Tom Mountford
Saturday 2nd October 1999
6:49 pm U.K.

tom.mountford@talk21.com

Evenin' Walter!

I was playing through some tapes last night and the entire servo system collapsed, drum speeding up out of control, thought the old think was going to kill itself! My priority at the moment is saving up for the new NLE and camera so I'm going to leave the BVW sitting up the corner until I've got the cash for an overhaul. When it was working though the playback was ever bit as good as the UVW-1400 I use at work so I'm keen to get it back in good health again.

JSP - CEL Electronics are a UK company (I'm not sure if they're still in business) who made timebase correctors, framestores, DVEs and the like throughout the eighties. The kit was pretty advanced stuff in its day - in particular the CEL P152 was a DVE operated via a touch-screen with effects saved on floppies and the capability to use a desktop PC as a framestore. All pretty cool stuff fifteen years ago. The unit I've got (the P147-20) is a simple framestore with mosaic, strobe and a few colour effects. It's a very cheap-looking 4U cream rack case with a few knobs on the front and an opening panel to get to the cards inside.

Walter Steenvoorden
Saturday 2nd October 1999
2:31 pm U.K.

waltersn@zonnet.nl

I know the BVP-10P model,nice freebie!, i have worked with the BVW-65. I had to replace a PCB once to get the jog/shuttle straightend out. Not only because it had problems,it also was destend for an upgrade from Sony.(It ate my primetime ENG edit) Luckely i had a backup destinated for archive wich i got edited with an extra hired BVW75 machine. The problem with most old Betacam SP machines (i.e. 1984 to 1991 BVW) is that when used for editing the tape path wheels get erosed when exposed to heavy use. Especially the part wich spins the tape around the drum, and the mechanism used for dynamic tracking.

B2
Saturday 2nd October 1999
9:01 am U.K.

betahifi@bigpond.com

Hi! for the uneducated, all I collect is betaMAX + umat and drool over betaCAM, http://users.bigpond.com/jsparkin/

what on earth is this 1982-84 CEL 147-20 thing your talking about?

JSP

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