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Joseph
Tuesday 4th June 2002
2:22 am U.K.

hoshi54@ihug.com.au

For Sale SONY SL-HF950ES BETAMAX Video Cassette Recorder

I am selling my Sony Betamax SL-HF950ES. In immaculate condition. Magnificent machine. Arguably the best Beta machine ever sold for domestic use in Australia. Features Beta HiFi for superb stereo analogue recording. 4-head design. I bought this unit new in 1989. It operates flawlessly. I have never had a problem with it. I have been using it as an audio recorder on the odd occassion. Excellent picture and sound quality. Comes with Remote Control, the User Manuals, Service Manuals and original sales brochure. Also included is Sony Video Cleaning Beta tape (which i have never used) and 15 blank used Beta tapes. I have the original box and packing. The unit is located in Sydney, Australia. Buyer pays for shipping.

Please make an offer. Email with your expression of interest.

Joseph.

SPECIFICATIONS

SYSTEM:Video Recording System: Rotary two-head helical scanningAudio Recording System: Beta hi-fi PAL system (2 channels) (Recording on the conventional audio track is monaural.)Video Signal: CCIR standards, PAL and DDR SECAM colour.Aerial input: 75-ohm, asymmetrical aerial socket.Stereo/bilingual system: West-German two carrier system.Channel Coverage: VHF: Western European Channels E2 - U20 UHF: Western European Channels E21 - E68 (up to 30 programmes can be preset).RF output signal: UHF channels 30 to 39 (variable) 75 ohms, unbalanced.

VIDEO:Horizontal resolution: 280 lines (Super Beta PRO mode).

BETA HI-FI PAL SOUNDFrequency Response: 20 Hz - 20 kHz (MPX FILTER OFF)Wow and Flutter: Less than 0.005% WRMSDynamic Range: More than 80dB

INPUTS AND OUTPUTSVideo input: VIDEO IN: BNC Connector 1.0 V (p-p) 75 ohms unbalanced , sync negative.Video output: VIDEO OUT: BNC connector 1.0 V (p-p) 75 ohms unbalanced , sync negative.Audio inputs: AUDIO IN: 2 phono jacks 47 kilohms, -10 dBs (0 dBs = 0.775 V rms) Microphone: -60 dBs, for low-impedance microphone.Audio outputs: AUDIO OUT: 2 phono jacks Load impedance less than 10 kilohms -10 dBs with 47 kilohms load, unbalanced. Headphones: Stereo phone jack -26 dBs, 8 ohms.Video/audio output: 21-pin EUROCONNECTOR

TAPE TRANSPORTTape Speed: 18.73 mm/sec.Maximum recording time: 3 hours 15 min with L-750 tape

Remote Commander: RMT-223

GENERAL:Power Requirements: 110 - 240 V AC 50/60 HzPower consumption: 39 WDimensions: 430 x 95 x 405 mm (w/h/d)Weight: 10.5 kg (23 lbs) net

Cameron B. Jezorek
Tuesday 4th June 2002
12:58 am U.K.

CameronJezorek@nc.rr.com

hey there guys. I have several beta tapes, some in original covers, some in plastic shells from a video store. I am trying desperatly to get rid of them for a little cash. Anyone interested?

Bill
Monday 3rd June 2002
9:56 pm U.K.

lmtimage76@hotmail.com

and here's their current superBeta:http://www.ecat.sony.co.jp/visual/video/products/index.cfm?PD=117

Franny Wentzel
Monday 3rd June 2002
8:32 pm U.K.

franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk

No problem Jesse just click on over to http://www.sony.jp/ProductsPark/Models/Current/EDV-9000_J_1/index.html and feast your eyes on the tasty EDV-9000....

Now that's a VCR that can beat up S-VHS machines and take their lunch money...

Jesse England
Monday 3rd June 2002
7:55 am U.K.

newspaperman5000@hotmail.com

Can anyone provide a link to a japanese site selling new Beta vcr's? I know they cannot record off-air in the US, but it would be interesting to see them being sold, nonetheless... I've tried the japanese Sony site, and it only provides links to new tapes or the "Sony History" site.

Franny Wentzel
Monday 3rd June 2002
4:38 am U.K.

franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk

How about if in the ad the iBeta kicks a VHS deck off the stand with it's skate loader drawer?

iBetaStill kicks VHS @$$

Olive Thomas
Monday 3rd June 2002
4:00 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com

I wouldn't mind an iBeta in Bondi blue... (or iShould iSay iWouldn't iMind...)

especially if it had that linear skate drawer so that in the ads if you stuck yer tongue out at it it could do likewise - like the new iMac with flat screen does in that new Apple ad...

Franny Wentzel
Monday 3rd June 2002
2:26 am U.K.

franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk

Mad Beta - sorry for sounding so inscrutable but I was refering to that iVirusing iJerk who's been iTrawling this site for iVictims...

Dammit Apple keeps iPutting 'i' in front of it's iProducts and now they've got me iDoing it...

Come to think of it iBeta would make a for killer campaign for Beta's comeback...

Andy Wehrle
Sunday 2nd June 2002
7:27 pm U.K.

We3he@aol.com

Olive...thanks for your answers. The first thing I did when my Sanyo started squeaking was run my Nortronics head cleaner through it...it lowered the volume of the squeak a little bit but not by much. The fact that Sanyos won't play BI does seem like the only logical reason for a K-type tape not to work, but I meant to record on them. And my SL-HF600's manual says it can play BI, but since I don't have any BI recorded tapes I have never used that feature...sometimes when I pick up used Beta tapes at St. Vinnys type stores or garage sales I hope they've been recorded in BI just so I can see what it looks like compared to BII, but so far all of them have been BII or BIII. Does the lower tape speed decrease the video quality considerably? BII (Superbeta) recordings still look better than SP VHS recordings, but how much better still is BI in terms of resolution & noise?

Mad Beta Collector
Sunday 2nd June 2002
5:13 pm U.K.

Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com

???????at franny

Olive Thomas
Sunday 2nd June 2002
4:55 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yahoo.com

To Andy I hope this helps with some of your questions...

*Regarding Olive Thomas' latest post, I would agree that the E-bay market would probably go bust if Sony would re-release the SL-HF2000. I've heard though that it's not all that special a machine, so maybe something with more features like the SL-HF750, 900, 1000 or 2100 or maybe an ED Beta would be better.*

Well I figure they'd still have the tools and dies for the SL-HF 2000 but yeah nobody seems to hold much regard for it. I'd love an SL-HF 750. With luck and saving I might have one by fall or winter...

*We should all email Sony a bunch of times and give them a piece of our minds, but their website is so complicated-Sony Global, Sony USA, SonyStyle, etc. You have to go through a bunch of menus to send them a mail, depending on what kind of product you're talking about. And just try searching their site for anything a little off the beaten path, like an EV-series Hi8 deck or an S-VHS VCR.*

Sony has pretty much been it's own worst enemy. When Beta started making money for them they cut back on advertising just as VHS was making inroads into Beta market share. Sony would make dazzling technical advances only to spoil it with cheapness. For example my SL-HF 360 came out in 1988 but still has a mono tuner with only 14 measly presets. Even the 1990 SLS-600 is basically a repacked SL-300 chassis. A similar low end Shintom VHS unit (that sold for around $100 which was pretty cheap for 1990) gave you all the channels it was capable of getting - no presets. Long after VHS camcorders included full playback capabiliy Sony insisted on trying to sell record only units. For no good reason Sony has chosen to 'hobble' their universal remotes so that only a limited features will work on non Sony units. Even my 2 year old Sony VHS VCR as adequate as it is lacks a TV/VCR switch on the VCR itself. And while it's remote can work my Panasonic TV, I can't directly enter TV channels. Sony is Sony's own worst enemy...

*I've had a bit of a problem with my Sanyo VCR-4030 lately...it still plays and records fine, but while it's doing so it sometimes (not always) makes this HORRIBLE shrieking sound that sounds like a rat has gotten caught in the tape transport mechanism. I have to close the door to the room while its recording to keep from driving everyone in the house crazy. If I put it in REW or FF mode during playback, it stops the noise but starts again when I put it back into normal play mode. It also makes the noise in slow motion mode. It just started doing this recently, and it seems to do it more often with Scotch (3M) brand tapes, but sometimes does it with other brand tapes too.*

It may that the tape path esp the pinch roller needs cleaning - it couldn't hurt, but most likely it's the tapes themselves.There are movable parts within them that can resonate like a tuning fork. Tapes may also be poorly wound. Sometimes winding and rewinding helps loosen them up.

And now for my Beta questions of the day...I've read that Sony's early K-30 and K-60 tapes are not usable in newer BII/III units...why not? What's to stop me from popping one in and pressing Play or Rec?...

Assuming these are already recorded K-30 and K-60 tapes my guess is that it's because they were recorded in the BI speed and that speed is not supported by Sanyo machines. I can't think of any other reason...

*a SuperBeta camcorder? What model is that? I thought I might look for a Beta camcorder but wasn't aware that any other than regular Beta were made... how about a Beta hi-fi one?*

The BMC-550 and BMC-660 and GCS-1 were superbeta camcorders - if you remembered to flip that little switch next to the clock battery. NEC Sanyo and Toshiba also marketed Sony built BMC-550s under their badge. The BMC-1000 recorded the BIs format and was really only usefull if you had an SL-HF 1000, 750 or 2100 which recorded in the BIs speed. The only HiF capable camcorder was the ED Cam but that's another story...

*What's the difference in tape quality between the Sony "Dynamicron", "ES Dynamicron", "UHG Dynamicron" and their newer "Betamax" with the blue and gold wrapper cassettes?*

One is $3.95 the other is $4.95...

j s p
Sunday 2nd June 2002
4:51 am U.K.

umatic@bigpond.com

FREE TO GOOD HOME sony series 2 umatics, 2 machines, one ok one mint, with series 2 edit controller and cables, plus national umatic (similar to the sony's), plus I will throw in say 25 tapes and a series 5 player in good nick!

Pick up in Adelaide South Australia!

they will be tossed in a few weeks if no reply! umatic@bigpond.com

Madness
Sunday 2nd June 2002
4:47 am U.K.

madness.elf@verizon.net

If I can throw in 2: If I'm not mistaken the early K-30/60 tapes aren't playable on the Sanyo's if recorded in BI (X1) which is all the earliest Sony's could do. None of the Sanyo's can play BI whereas nearly all of the Sony's can. I wouldn't doubt that they'd work if you record over them in BII/BIII where they'd be L-250 or L-500 tapes, respectively.

Pepse
Sunday 2nd June 2002
4:41 am U.K.

jmsekola@chibardun.net

IIRC the Sony SL200D that they sell in Japan is very similar to the SL-HF 2000, but with better everthing. So, all Sony would have to do is put the US rf box in it so we could use it. Same with their ED series, just change the rf box and it is US ready. Oh yeah, and set the power supply for our use. Later. Pepse.

Andy Wehrle
Sunday 2nd June 2002
1:44 am U.K.

We3he@aol.com

Regarding Olive Thomas' latest post, I would agree that the E-bay market would probably go bust if Sony would re-release the SL-HF2000. I've heard though that it's not all that special a machine, so maybe something with more features like the SL-HF750, 900, 1000 or 2100 or maybe an ED Beta would be better. We should all email Sony a bunch of times and give them a piece of our minds, but their website is so complicated-Sony Global, Sony USA, SonyStyle, etc. You have to go through a bunch of menus to send them a mail, depending on what kind of product you're talking about. And just try searching their site for anything a little off the beaten path, like an EV-series Hi8 deck or an S-VHS VCR. I've had a bit of a problem with my Sanyo VCR-4030 lately...it still plays and records fine, but while it's doing so it sometimes (not always) makes this HORRIBLE shrieking sound that sounds like a rat has gotten caught in the tape transport mechanism. I have to close the door to the room while its recording to keep from driving everyone in the house crazy. If I put it in REW or FF mode during playback, it stops the noise but starts again when I put it back into normal play mode. It also makes the noise in slow motion mode. It just started doing this recently, and it seems to do it more often with Scotch (3M) brand tapes, but sometimes does it with other brand tapes too. And now for my Beta questions of the day...I've read that Sony's early K-30 and K-60 tapes are not usable in newer BII/III units...why not? What's to stop me from popping one in and pressing Play or Rec?... Pepse...a SuperBeta camcorder? What model is that? I thought I might look for a Beta camcorder but wasn't aware that any other than regular Beta were made... how about a Beta hi-fi one? What's the difference in tape quality between the Sony "Dynamicron", "ES Dynamicron", "UHG Dynamicron" and their newer "Betamax" with the blue and gold wrapper cassettes?

Mad Beta Collector
Saturday 1st June 2002
2:41 pm U.K.

Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com

Steve (Whelan)

I think you have a virus on your computer I suggest you get it checked out

Paul :)

Benjamin Gawert
Saturday 1st June 2002
10:13 am U.K.

bgawert@gmx.de

Hi! Im from Germany, and Im looking for an SONY SL-C6ES Betamax Videorekorder in PAL format. It should be the Mark I model with Stereo Sound and anthrazite case. May be defective but should be complete, not messed up internally by people without technical knowledge and in a good optical condition.

Benjamin

Pepse
Saturday 1st June 2002
7:33 am U.K.

jmsekola@chibardun.net

Howard, as for the RMT-143 remote, I didn't get that lucky when I got my HF750, but shortly thereafter I acquired a Sony RMT-V373A off of Ebay and it has been a very good remote. It has a Jog/Shuttle wheel similar to the 143 and does most of the functions for the HF750. So far it has been a very durable remote. As for the performance of the HF750?? I haven't graduated to dvd so I don't know how it is but a few people here have said it is really good. I mainly use mine for Beta movies and some vhs to Beta copying and recording Enterprise off of Satellite commercial free and of course for watching what I record with my GCS1 SuperBeta camcorder. Andy, I can't believe the way pricing has gone for Beta anything on Ebay. To be honest if I was crazy enough to use a credit card on the 'Net I have a few parts Betas that would probably make me a few bucks and a alot of barely working and/or old computer parts. That is another venue to look at. Gotta dead harddrive or motherboard?? Sell it on Ebay; people will buy it. It's kinda nutz, but it works. Later. Pepse.

Madness
Saturday 1st June 2002
7:04 am U.K.

madness.elf@verizon.net

Howard: The 750 is cool deck. I use mine mostly for recording and have never been disappointed w/ the results! Just this past Tuesday, I duped Harry Potter to a BCT-30 from the DVD and it came out really sweet (was I the first? [ :) ]). I also found that if I setup the DVD player just right, I can produce a beta hifi copy that works so well w/ our ProLogic II setup. Some of my tapes can really rock the house when played thru it!

Finally, I feel that beta is the very best for any serious collection; DVD, SatTV & Digital Cable came out to give us "betafanz" some superfine sources to record from. Just my 2 tho. :) :)

Franny Wentzel
Saturday 1st June 2002
5:49 am U.K.

franny_wentzel@yahoo.co.uk

Remember a while back about the posting about a shady E-bayer selling these guides to 'secret sources' for 'Beta HiFi Front Load VCRs' like they were still making them somewhere? I did some checking at he's still selling those guides for other products but looking at his feedback it turns out that 'secret source' is the Salvation Army. He's apparantly selling a list of phone numbers you can call to try and get 'Beta HiFi Front Load VCRs' or projection TVs or Bowflex home gyms... or whatever product he slaps onto his phone lists this month....

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