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Nico
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
2:05 pm U.K.

nicolas.zuniga@db.com

Thanx Brenda!

So I understood correctly, exactly as explained in Palsite, only oxide Betacam tapes can be used with our loved consumer Beta machines without a risk to burn the heads. Okay. Now, would it still be an advantage to use oxide Betacam tapes towards standar Beta high grade tapes in the SL-HF 950 at Supebeta PRO-mode? I mean, are Betacam tapes better anyway in magnetic formulation, being conceived for the professional market? I know Betacam obviously runs much faster than plain Beta machines to give a much better quality, but are the tapes (being both oxide) exacly the same or I should note a difference? Anyone has experienced this?

Thanx!!

Sean Meskill
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
2:02 pm U.K.

smeskill@attbi.comebackformore

Brenda:

SLO-1800: If I see one I'll let you know. If I come into one I'll see ab out letting you have it. Of course if my school dumps a whole lot of them, I'll be sure to grab them all and we can have the closest thing to the fabled lost wharehouse since one guy got two whole racks of SL-HF-750s. I have an edit control, for a single machine. I forget the model number.

Brenda Ann Dyer
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
12:58 pm U.K.

brendad@shinbiro.com

Oh, forgot the other important factor.. the bias for the oxide heads/tapes will not be adequate for metal tape, so your video response would not be linear (bad picture).

Brenda Ann Dyer
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
12:56 pm U.K.

brendad@shinbiro.com

Nico,

Smoothness of formulation isn't necessarily better. What you are dealing with in oxide vs. metal tape is the HARDNESS of the formulation. Heads designed for oxide tapes are relatively soft. The soft oxide formulation wears down the heads, but not near so quickly as the harder metal formulation (think your car's brakes... the metal is soft, brake pads softer. The pads will wear the smooth metal braking surfaces over time, but if the metal holding the pads contacts the metal braking surface, it wears it very quickly). In other words, the metal tapes being harder than your heads will cause the heads to wear very quickly, regardless of how "smooth" the formulation may be.

Nico
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
12:30 pm U.K.

nicolas.zuniga@db.com

Hi everybody I'm new around here, thank God I found Palsite and this forum. Hope anybody can give me a hand with this:

I own a SL-HF 950 ES with the Superbeta PRO-mode which apparently works only using the rarely seen PRO-X tapes to offer 280 lines of resolution. As I don't find PRO-X tapes anywhere, would I get the same result by using oxide Betacam tapes, given that these are designed for professional use? Or would a good, new high grade tape give me the same result?

Furthermore, I'm a bit confused now regarding the use of Betacam oxide tapes on plain Beta machines. I read at Palsite that you can use the small sized OXIDE Betacam tapes with no risk of 'burning' the heads and that only METAL tapes (mainly used since the introduction of Betacam SP) would be harmful. I contacted Sony's technical support here in Madrid (Spain) and one 'technician' told me the following two things:1- Forget about it all Beta is DEAD (my ears were completely shut to that comment)2- OXIDE tapes are MORE harmful to heads than METAL tapes, much more if we are talking about using them on a consumer Betamax machine, because metal tapes are smoother in formulation ?????!!!!!. Well that's exacltly the opposite to what I read in Palsite, so now I really don't know what to think... Could please somebody enlighten me? Is it good to use Betacam oxide tapes to record in Superbeta PRO-mode or will that harm my heads anyhow? Should I just use new UHG tapes instead if I can find any? Will the result be as good?

Thanx!!

Brenda Ann Dyer
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
8:54 am U.K.

brendad@shinbiro.com

Ah... HP Vectra... the VHS of computers.. *gggg* (Daewoo, of course).

Sean, if you ever come across an SLO-1800, think of me first if you don't want it for yourself.. in the meantime, I'll keep my eyes on fleabay for one. I'm so way happy with my SLO-323, the audio is even better since I cleaned the audio heads.. not bad for linear stereo..

Franny Wentzel
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
7:16 am U.K.

franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk

Yikes! I just can't imagine trying to use that other format on a daily basis....

Sean Meskill
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
6:12 am U.K.

smeskill@attbi.comebackformore

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942514732My dream: One of these with a Beta (Three speed superbeta HiFi) in place of the DV deck. Ultimate recorder... BIs for short features, SVHS at EP for long features, copy to VHS for friends, copy to beta from rentals, edit down from Betamovie tapes to VHS so other people can watch them... Yeah, I've noticed half the reason I use VHS is so other people can look at my tapes... the other half is the $0.99 Maxell tapes...

Sean Meskill
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
6:07 am U.K.

smeskill@attbi.comebackformore

Well if I ever turn one of those up I'll have to mount the big server fan over the grating in the back. (Scrapped a Vectra) My JVC HR-S5500U runs awfully hot but since, in my oppinion, BIs looks almost as good as SVHS and the best beta tapes are $9 new and the lowest I've seen SVHS is around $12 you know what makes my movies and so forth. In fact I almost never use it, but it's way too cool to sell off. I was given a free 29" (?) trinitron set... Betamax Era... have to look into it because of my unified Sony Remote... controls TVs, and VTR codes 1 through three. I also have one that handles my reciever, VTR 2, and a television among other Sony goodies I don't have!

BeefJerky
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
5:58 am U.K.

beefjerky@starlynx.com

Re: SLV-R5UC

This is one of the best prosumer SVHS's, but it does have one common fault. The power supply. It runs *very* hot, and the capacitors in there are very likely to start leaking. Sometimes they can be rebuilt as long as the electrolyte hasn't damaged the PCB. One thing I recommend. Mound some sorta fan on the back to help cool the power supply. That should at least help to delay or prevent that problem. As a matter of fact I have one of these VCR's in my closet with a bad PSU, but the PCB is already damaged, so I'd have to buy a whole PSU from Sony to get working again.

Scott
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
5:43 am U.K.

scottveazie@hotmail.com

RE: Trading down from ED Beta to Super Beta. I never use the ED function on my 9500 as I only have about 5 metal tapes, and many more standard Beta tapes. I figured maybe someone would really want an ED, whilst I'd rather have the 2100. I've always wanted one of those crazy touch screen decks.

~Scott

Andy W.
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
3:59 am U.K.

vespanidus@aol.com

Well gang, I did it! I finally found that editing deck for my home videos! I did not want to spend more than 300 bucks, which eliminated the SL-HF1000 and 2100, and the SLV-R1000 and SVO-2000, and the Panasonic AG-1980. I also wanted a well-built and reliable one, which eliminated anything JVC. What a dreamer, thinking I could get a good editing VCR for under $300! But where there's a will, there's a way. A broad search of Ebay for "Sony VCR" turned up model SLV-R5UC. It was supposedly one of Sony's first VHS-system based VCRs after they gave up on ßeta, so it probably dates from 1989 or 1990. I bid on 1 and lost, and bid on another and won it today at $295 :) It's like an S-VHS version of the SL-HF1000, with a big old jog/shuttle wheel on the unit and remote, A/V insert editing, front A/V input, mike and headphone jacks, Edit Monitor mode, PIP mode, and more. But all the controls are on the inside of a flip-down door that runs the length of the unit, reminiscent of the SL-HF2100. The controls are normal buttons however, not touchpad. It also has a Control-L jack on the front that will interface with the LANC jack on my camcorder (with an adapter cable) and a Control-S jack on the back that will work with the one on my SL-HF600. :):):):)

Olive E Thomas
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
3:28 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.n¿spam.c¿m

Why would you trade DOWN from an ED-beta to a ordinary SuperBeta? Even if it was the SL-HF 2100, I'd still rather have an EDV-9500...

Anyways...

It feels good to sleech a sleecher...

It seems the only time our local PBS station ever deigns to put on programming that might draw interest outside their usual core audience they put it on their beg-athon weeks... (where they interrupt programming to tell you the benefit of supporting public TV is that you won't have to sit through commercials!)

Well their begathon commercial were no match for my trusty SL-HF 360. Got a nice documentary about the vanished downtown shopping districts of our area - the old department stores, movie theaters,hotels, train stations and etc...- with at least a half hour or more of begging surgically removed...

Being among the first generation to grow up in a land without downtowns to speak of it's sad to see what I've missed...

like the poor deprived kids growing up without Betas...

It's like what the man said - there is no America anymore - just the malls people go to and the malls people used to go to...

Scott
Tuesday 3rd December 2002
1:55 am U.K.

scottveazie@hotmail.com

Hello,

Firstly, an update on the Beta Informer. For the last couple of months I have been trying to get my Eudora mail to send the Informer out (Eudora is the only mail program I know of that is free and will let me past lots of email addresses in the BCC choice) but if anyone can point me in the right direction of a free alternative, that would be great. I cannot figure out what all of a sudden it won't let me email out. Very frustrating. Secondly, I have the following for trade:

Sony EDV-9500

Will trade for Sony SL-HF2100, or willing to entertain offers. I am really looking for a SL-HF2100 though. Thanks so much.

~Scott

Dennis Gibson
Monday 2nd December 2002
7:54 am U.K.

dennis.gibson@anu.edu.au

I have a Sony SL HF100AS that has a problem with the NEC D7519G display driver / processor.I have no display and no turn-on unless relay RY621 in the PSU is forced on, then things start to work but still no display.

Does anyone have either a schematic for this area ("MC" on the PCB) or a pin-out of the chip?

Thanks,

DG

David A.
Sunday 1st December 2002
10:09 pm U.K.

avideo@earthlink.net

To Andy W. - Just got back from a few days away in California to share Thanksgiving with my family.(It was about 70 and sunny in San Francisco!) And when I checked my e-mails, I also got that e-mail from some "Sergio" character looking for an ED Beta. Looks like we already have the first "spammer" taking e-mailaddresses off this board. Shame on him!!! I am thinking about the possibility of selling my SL-700. I rarely use it - and Isuspect someone here might be able to give it a good home. I bought it from the original owner - a former broadcast guy here on the west coast. It's in really great shape - allpanels and doors are in nice condition; and all controls work perfectly. About the only thingI can find wrond on this machine is that the display is a bit weak - mostly due to somedust getting under the display panel. If you can live with a SuperBeta that doesn't have Hi-Fi; it might be worth a look.

Sean Meskill
Sunday 1st December 2002
8:55 pm U.K.

smeskill@attbi.comebackformore

I knew I had heard that before. Thanks, Franny, now I know what it is. I'll have to look for an Mp3 of my favorite Christmas Number...

Franny Wentzel
Sunday 1st December 2002
9:18 am U.K.

franny_wentzel@yahoo.spamjam.co.uk

Loaded my favourite holiday mp3 to the Betamax Videographer. If you're a member you can 'sleech' it at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBetamaxVideographer/files/Waitresses-Xmas-Wrapping.mp3

I used to think it was a Blondie song but I still like it. Not too many Hannukah songs out there...

Sean Meskill
Sunday 1st December 2002
6:25 am U.K.

smeskill@attbi.comebackformore

Somebody sold me an ancient top-load VHS for $5 that had taken a trip down the loading ramp. looked like that but functioned OK transport wise but the heads were worn down to little nubs. I have the head drum around here someplace and I occasionally use it as a drink coaster (Better than an AOL CD!!!)

Ron Hebb
Sunday 1st December 2002
12:27 am U.K.

ocanada6@yahoo.com

I got the Sergio e-mail. I wouldn't call it span, exactly. It was pretty broken English, but it appears to be a letter to the president of Sony complaining about their decision to kill Beta, along with a suggestion they create combination ED Beta/DVD decks (a great, albeit futile idea). I think he cc'd everyone that's ever been on this site.

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