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Max Beta
Friday 3rd December 2004
1:53 pm U.K.

maxbetamax@yahoo.com

Olive: I'd like to hear more about the VCM-220 you spoke of: what exactly does it do, how much does it weigh, and can you still find them somewhere? Thanks!

Rick
Friday 3rd December 2004
12:03 pm U.K.

bbfantasy59@hotmail.com

The video tapes have been in my closet, not near any components to my stereo or tv. Could humidity or just not playing them over a period of time cause damage to the tapes? Some of them were fairly expensive video tapes, it doesn't seem to matter though, they all do the same thing. I have probably 100 tapes or so. Also, I have tried to run the tapes fastforward and then rewind them every so often.

nnils
Friday 3rd December 2004
10:01 am U.K.

SL-HFT7@t_e_l_u_s.net

Re: blank spots every rotation. That tape may have had a close encounter of the magnetic kind. I just realized while posting this that my (VHS mono) Monty Python tape drawer is just above the magnetic door catch on my AV stand. Dumb, dumb. Every time that drawer opens, all the tapes get dragged past that magnet and a wooden shelf won't protect them. Remember it is moving through a magnetic field that causes tape change, not the amount of time motionless next to the magnet. Worst place to put any tape is on top of a TV - many models run a powerful degauss every time they are turned on in order to maintain picture quality.

nnils
Friday 3rd December 2004
9:45 am U.K.

SL-HFT7@t_e_l_u_s.net

Re: doors... I think what Mr. Betamax really meant was that if it still had the door, he felt justified in adding yet another 25% onto the price! On my SL-HFT7 there are two light bulbs that stay on if the door is missing or opened.

Olive E Thomas
Friday 3rd December 2004
7:33 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

A missing door on Sanyo decks often means the AFT switch doesn't get enabled which means tuner signals don't stay locked and can drift.

Sanyo (and Sears) VCRs like the 4010/20/27 and the toploading 3900/4000/4400 series (and a bunch of others) locate the AFT on/off button - actually a little jumper-like nubbin that (assuming you didn't lose it) you have to put on the AFT-ON pin - on the flip-down door.

videohead
Friday 3rd December 2004
5:29 am U.K.

memory@excellence.com

Doors: I look at all the reasons that I have accumulated, use, repair and maintain a number of Beta units, why I go through all the trouble to service a huge collection of high maintenance videotapes and why I collect and study service manuals, advertisements, repair books, the history of Beta and the like, and not a one of those reasons is consistent with me finding it acceptable to look under my TV and see a grotesque array of buttons and knobs that the people who conceived, designed and built the unit thought visually distracting enough to to require a door to cover them. YMMV.

According to mrbetamax.com, a missing door devalues a machine by 25%. I forget exactly where in his sprawling site the chart is located so I can't link it. But I tend to agree with that.

Olive E Thomas
Friday 3rd December 2004
2:39 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

SL-T800ME on offer in the UK - currently at 6£ 50

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5735811056

Rick
Thursday 2nd December 2004
8:52 pm U.K.

bbfantasy59@hotmail.com

Thanx for the reply, Would the speed of the tape as it goes around have anything to do with it? The blank spot is on every rotation of the tape. It makes it hard to watch the video. when the blank spot comes around is when the sound drags. Do you think it could be the tape player. Like i said. it never occured on my Zenith player. My Zenith player was a monster, it was very heavy and there was so much more to it. When I play any of my recordings from my video camera is when I have this problem. I'm not really sure what to do. Thank you

Andy W.
Thursday 2nd December 2004
8:47 pm U.K.

WEHRAR17@uwgb.edu

Videohead, what is wrong with missing the front control panel door? Sure sometimes the VCR doesn't look quite as good, but it still works fine (if there's nothing else wrong with it). I got an SL-HF300 that is missing the front panel door AND the little knob for the headphone volume control, but it only cost me $2 and it works perfectly.

By the way, from my own observations anyway, Beta Hi-Fi decks that are not SuperBeta (including the SL-HF300 ) CANNOT play back SuperBeta tapes. When I play SuperBeta recorded tapes on the SL-HF300 there is definitely much more noise and interference in the picture than when playing them on a SuperBeta machine. Non-SuperBeta recorded tapes play back perfectly on the SL-HF300.

videohead
Thursday 2nd December 2004
4:55 pm U.K.

memory@excellence.com

Sony playback: if by "blank spots" you mean the screen goes completely black in playback from time to time but not in cue or review, that's usually a sign of a major problem - lower drum or something equally pricey. As for the sound "warble," get hold of a factory-recorded movie and try it out. If you observe the same problem, then it may be an audio head or control head problem. If you do not observe the same problem in the factory recorded tape, then the sound problem in the other tapes is probably the tapes themselves.

If you decide to get another Beta machine, I suggest a Sony SL-HF300. Very reliable, very durable. Make sure the one you buy is not missing the front control panel door or you will regret it. And whatever you do, don't grab an SL-23XX or -24XX "with test tape" for $225. While you can find some worse deals than that on Beta machines on eBay, there aren't many.

videohead
Thursday 2nd December 2004
5:48 am U.K.

memory@excellence.com

Oh, brother...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39830&item=5734417346&rd=1

videohead
Thursday 2nd December 2004
5:33 am U.K.

memory@excellence.com

Best non-Sony (whether or not "non-Sony" means not made by Sony or simply not carrying a Sony nameplate), again, is that Toshiba V-S36 with the original remote. It has superb tape handling and mechanics as well as first-rate special effects and features that were well ahead of their time. The same is actually true for the Toshiba V8500T. Outstanding special effects and probably the coolest wired remote you'll ever see.

I agree about the comment about the reliability of Sanyos too (and the idler tire qualification!). If only they had put a smidge more quality into the video section of those units, they would be real contenders.

Rick
Thursday 2nd December 2004
3:47 am U.K.

bbfantasy59@hotmail.com

Hey everybody, In 79' I got a beta movie camera along with a Zenith top loading beta tape recorder/player. I taped a lot with it, my wedding, kid's birthdays, etc. The picture and sound were great, I liked it better than any VHS tapes I saw played back. My Zenith player stopped working years ago and I couldn't find a technician to repair it. A little while after that my sister gave me their sony front loading player so I would still be able to watch my tapes. (she hopped on the VHS bandwagon) For some reason my tapes never played as well on that as they did on my Zenith player. The Zenith was a heavier machine but the tapes were going off track or somthing, that's why i needed a different machine. When i play my tapes on the Sony Machine, music along with the tape seems to drag. Also there's a blank spot that goes around on it. I never had this problem with the Zenith player. On fast forward there aren't any blank spots, I realize it's going faster but still it looks good with no problems, but when it goes regular speed the blank spots come back along with the tape drag. My question is, could it be the tape player. If it isn't is there any way to fix or at least minimize the blank spaces and speed the tape up so it doesn't drag. I'd hate to lose some of those older recordings. If anybody can help I'd appreciate it. Thank you, Rick

Andy W.
Thursday 2nd December 2004
1:46 am U.K.

WEHRAR17@uwgb.edu

The Sanyo VCR-6400 that I picked up at Goodwill last week has a problem: Sometimes (only with some tapes) it will read a BII tape as being BIII (causing the playback to appear in perpetual slow-motion on the TV screen). I had run a head cleaner tape before testing it out. Could the control track head still be dirty, or perhaps wearing out? Or is there something else that is causing the problem? The problem only appears with certain tapes, but those tapes play back fine on my other machines.

videohead
Wednesday 1st December 2004
10:33 pm U.K.

memory@excellence.com

Best non SuperBeta machines IMO are the SL-HF500 and the Toshiba V-S36C (see my above post on that unit). For the 500, you could just as easily argue the 2710, 2700 or even the 300. All of these models can play SuperBeta recorded tapes quite well, and are solid performers in all respects. The Sony's are better if you play tapes from many sources because of their ability to track a wide range of tapes. For features though, you can't beat the Toshiba. It's a remarkable machine, so long as you have the original remote. It looks great under the TV now too, matching the new DVD players so well.

Mad Beta Collector
Wednesday 1st December 2004
9:18 pm U.K.

Paulr_shutty@yahoo.co.uk

Andy W: Philips made some VHS Machines that wraps around the head like the beta. Unsure if they still do.

The best non-sony Beta has got to be toshiba for quality (since the 8600 has four heads) yet Sanyo is the best for reliability.. (apart from reel idler) :)

Leona Jensen
Wednesday 1st December 2004
8:11 pm U.K.

jensen1938@yahoo.com

I have an old Super Beta Movie Model BMC-660. It has many features and I am wondering if anyone knows if I can hook this up to my computer and transfer my old videos to DVD without spending a fortune. Thanks for any help.

Olive E Thomas
Wednesday 1st December 2004
6:17 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Best non-Sonys would have to be the Zenith Betas like the VR-9755PT whic is one of the best looking non-Sonys out there...

Max Beta
Wednesday 1st December 2004
3:12 pm U.K.

maxbetamax@yahoo.com

Todays' Poll:What is the best non-Sony Beta machine? Is it a Toshiba, Sanyo, NEC, or other?

Olive E Thomas
Wednesday 1st December 2004
3:48 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Wega version of the SL-F1 with HVC -3000 camera. Out of Germany and at 50 this moment...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3856296828

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