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noel higgins
Thursday 19th May 2005
2:48 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Phil,

Glad to hear you had success to a degree. Capacitors form part of the timing circuit for the capstan (and drum) motor servo systems. These systems are preset by potentiometers (variable resistors) to a centre point within their "lock range". This is the range over which they can use tracking and picture information to keep their speed regulated and the picture stable. You will now have to adjust the capstan speed control RV8 (from memory) to see that is in the centre of the range between the points by turning the control either way to see where picture syncronisation is lost when playing back a previously recorded tape and set it to the centre of those points. Note where you started - just in case. I think the correct procedure involves measuring test point 2 voltage of 5.5V whilst recording.

regards Noel

noel higgins
Wednesday 18th May 2005
3:10 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Alex,

I am in Melbourne Australia and can help you if your after another beta. Reply at the above email but remove "nospam."

regards Noel

noel higgins
Wednesday 18th May 2005
3:05 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Lee,

STOP! You are confusing the capstan motor, which moves the tape by gripping it with a capstan pinch roller, with the head drum motor which rotates the video heads and sweeps then diagonally across the tape to record or retrieve video and HiFi sound.

Put the bits back together and take it to a service centre you trust. These machines are complex and demand respect. You can cause a lot of damage just fiddling around.

Jonathon,

Glad to hear you had success. The C7 was my first machine as well and they give a good picture when their working tip top.

regards Noel

Steve
Tuesday 17th May 2005
6:28 am U.K.

ez2c2steve@aol.com

I have a SL-HF 950 with manual but no remote if Fort Worth TX area if anyone is interested in getting one?

I believe it to be worth $4-500 with remote so I am asking $300 because I believe you can get a remote from sony for about $100?

Olive E Thomas
Tuesday 17th May 2005
5:58 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

Oooh! An LV1901 outfit is on display at the American Museum of the Moving Image (in New York City?)...http://gallery.maiman.net/movingimage/DSC00047

joplinbeta
Tuesday 17th May 2005
2:45 am U.K.

kawninja@cableone.net

Could possibly someone here familiar with the Sony SL-2300 / SL-2400 series Betamax machines give a quick course on servo board capacitor replacement? Have seen quite a few posts all over the net about how these machines produce poor video (intermittent horizontal lines and garbled audio) when the servo board electrolytics dry out. I've got a like new SL-2300 that has this problem. Looks like Sony at one time offered popular capacitor replacement kit, so how many capacitors does this involve and how do I go about getting started?

Thanks,Steve P.

Olive E Thomas
Monday 16th May 2005
8:47 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

Dutch SL-C7 brochure...

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c701.jpg

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c702.jpg

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c703.jpg

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c704.jpg

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c705.jpg

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c706.jpg

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c707.jpg

http://www.io.tudelft.nl/public/vdm/fda/brochures/sony01/c708.jpg

Lee
Monday 16th May 2005
6:08 pm U.K.

levans@bike.clara.net

Thanks for that Noel, I'm not sure it thats a bit out of my league, I'm assuming this means taking the entire head assemly apart, the top part comes away quite simply 2 screws on the cover and then another two screws to remove a plate with what look like sensor coils on them. From there on it looks a bit of a ping, snap and oh where did that bit go. Think I'm gonna do more harm that good!

I'm in the UK if anyone can recommend a good service place.

Cheers

Lee

Jonathan Sleep
Monday 16th May 2005
5:29 pm U.K.

jonnyboyplym29@eurobell.co.uk

Hi Noel,Ive changed the capacitors in the servo circuits of the c5 and the c7 i have both now work as they were new, I have one other c7 which is dead , so im going to stip down the the power and replace the capicitors and the transistor, im hoping that this machine will then work again, ive had one c7 from new and its 25 years old. many thanks noel

Alex
Monday 16th May 2005
12:36 pm U.K.

avberk@hotmail.com

Hello,

Thank you for all your help to get my old sanyo betacord VTC-M10 up and running but since i have counted my betamax tapes which is over 2500 of them i am looking at buying a spare betamax machine. would there be any websites that sell (new or used) betamax videos in Australia and which is the best and most reliable brand,my sanyo has been with me since i was a young boy in the 80's and would hate to lose the format Kind Regards Alex "Long Live Beta"

Olive E Thomas
Monday 16th May 2005
5:19 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

Yep... 'Grampy' still runs like a champ

Olive E Thomas
Monday 16th May 2005
5:08 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

SL-5400 not playing like yours most likely a rubber problem. Check idler post and tyres.

Hmmm... I should drag out mine sometime and give it a working out...

EdHouck
Monday 16th May 2005
3:11 am U.K.

2710ed@gmail.com

I have just received a Sony SL 5400. Trouble is that it will not play. Every time you hit the play switch it pops right back up in about 2 seconds. After about three times you have to eject the tape and put it back in and start over. It does rewind and fast foward. I have read over all your possible things to check and this is not mentioned. Anyone that can help me? I sure would appreciate it. Ed

noel higgins
Monday 16th May 2005
12:14 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Lee,

Given that extra information you gave about about the capstan motor, you might be able to help yourself a bit before you call an expert. (I don't even know what country your in so can't help with any recommendation)

The capstan wear coupled with some buckling of the drive circuit board with the coils mounted on it as it gets warm can lead to the magnet rubbing into the coils and removing insulation, eventual shorting the coil out. This is similar to the reel motor wear problem described on Palsite. See if you can use a small piece of plastic to pack out the end of the capstan drive shaft to give the magnet extra clearance. Also ensure the board is as flat as possible against the chassis. I have not seen this problem on an SLHF950 but it is common on Sony SlV777 (VHS unit) made about the same time.

Johnathon

SLC7 switch mode power supplies die because of dried capacitors in their switchmode power supply. You will need to change the capacitors, two associated switching transistors and a fuse. Hopefully the transformer will not be damaged by overheating. If you can get a secondhand power supply from someone then OK, but they are all very old now so it is just a matter of time before that might fail as well if it has not been reconditioned. So if you get a second hand power supply - replace the two main capacitors at least.

regards Noel

Jonathan Sleep
Sunday 15th May 2005
1:33 pm U.K.

jonnyboyplym29@eurobell.co.uk

Hi there

Thanks for the reply from Noel Higgins, I will try replacing all the light blue capacitors on the AS 3 circuit board.

I have a C7 Betamax and the power supply is completly dead, can anyone help.

Many thanks

Jonathan Sleep

Noel Higgins
Sunday 15th May 2005
9:38 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Lee,

Your problem with the SLHF950 sounds a bit like a capstan sync problem or tracking variation problem. You may need to get someone with suitable test equipment (a CRO) and ervice manual to monitor the control waveforms and see if it's caused by a mechanical problem such as tape path, a capstan motor wear problem or it might also be that the eletrolytic capacitors are varying in value when they warm up throwing the servo to one end of its limit.

regards Noel

Dave
Saturday 14th May 2005
9:18 pm U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

Yea you are right Olive that is way too much for that, I saw one before that went for 50, if someone was to pay $500 for that has money to burn

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 14th May 2005
3:15 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

This one's gonna be on eBay for a long time at that price...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7514141605

20 times what he should've opened the bidding at and 5 times what he could expect to get on the best of days.

And a hint for those people who seem to think that the fact these went for $1600 bux 20 years ago should somehow factor in the price you can expect to get today - EVERYTHING was way way expensive back when they were first being made. Then as sales goes up more and more companies start learning how to make them cheaper and with more feature and eventually the prices bottom out.

Nowadays for the $500 bux this guy wants you could get a new digital8 camcorder that actually works out of the box and has way more features and you can get tapes, batteries and accessories more easily for.

Lee
Friday 13th May 2005
5:39 pm U.K.

levans@bike.clara.net

Hi,

New to this site and re-born Betamax owner - offering a service in the UK converting ok Betamax tapes to DVD.

Anyway I've recently bought a Sony SLHF950 from E-bay and all seems to work fine with it. So my first paying job comes along, and all seems to be working fine. Accept after around 45 minutes or so I get quite a lot of drop out, which gradually gets worse until I just get a screen of white noise alternating with very noisy picture about every 1-2 seconds.

I've read something about static buildup on the heads and I have got a plastic thingy fitted. If I immediately put another tape in I get the same problem within a 10-20 seconds of playing. If I turn the machine off, walk away and come back then it seems fine for a while.

Any suggestions as to what the problem might be?

Many Thanks

Lee

Thomas
Friday 13th May 2005
3:22 pm U.K.

thomaspoels88@hotmail.com

sorry, i meant a sony hvc-4000p

Thomas
Friday 13th May 2005
1:56 pm U.K.

thomaspoels88@hotmail.com

Hi, I've got a sony hvc2000 camera...but it doesn't work...it's like it isn't getting any power..Ive checked the power on cameraplug of the recorder..and there is..I also checked de fuse in the camera...so i don't know what to do.. thomas

noel higgins
Friday 13th May 2005
2:04 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Phil,

Check out the comments above in my email of 10 May about SLC5. You need to replace capacitors as indicated at http://www.palsite.com/slc5tech.html

regards Noel.

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 12th May 2005
6:45 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

Remember me mentioning that 1ziggi1 picked up an SL-HF400 and 2 SL-2000s for a song...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5770253192

Already has the SL-HF 400 on the block...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5774129409

I wonder when he'll list the pair of 2000s or is he waiting to get some power supplies or tuner modules for them....

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 12th May 2005
4:37 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

Sounds like the heads are either totally filthy or shot. If you don't have a head cleaning tape and don't want to open the top to manually clean it you can get some tape you don't care about and hold it in pause mode for a few minutes to see if that clears it up.

jukester2
Thursday 12th May 2005
4:27 am U.K.

jukester2@comcast.net

Greetings. I recently acquired a Sony SL-HF360 machine. Upon initial startup I discovered that the vcr produces a completely white, snowy video screen. No amount of adjustment or tuning seems to help. Audio is fine and all other functions work well. Is the drum history or is there something else going on?

Stuart Nottingham
Wednesday 11th May 2005
8:56 pm U.K.

jenstu@earwigo.wanadoo.co.uk

I am wanting to buy either a complete Beta head-cleaning tape kit, or the Bib fluid (or similar) to apply to such a tape.Any ideas, please?Many thanks.Stuart.

Olive E Thomas
Wednesday 11th May 2005
3:33 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

The M-10 sounds like it has a fault in the color processing section. There should be an RV adjustment (chroma) to maybe bring up color but I'm not familiar with that model. You might also want to check if you've tuned the TV reciever or RF modulator properly if you've connected this via antennae leads.

Phil
Wednesday 11th May 2005
12:38 pm U.K.

philr3@ihug.com.au

I have been a Betamax fan since the mid eighties when my parents bought a Sony SL-C35 -AS. I still use it today. But recently I acquired a Sony SL-C5 and have been slowly refurbishing it. I have replaced all the rubber belts and it now works well except that the playback picture wobbles and shakes from side to side. I have adjusted both RV1 and RV2 as suggested on one of the fault page lists but there was no improvement. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also, I am unable to set the clock/timer. At first I thought the buttons were stuck but testing each with a multimeter showed them to all be open circuit and when pressed individually they all register between 200 and 500 ohms. Is this right? I would expect pressing a switch to result in zero resistence. Pressing the clockSet button after powering on causes the Day6 LED to light and stay on...

Alex
Wednesday 11th May 2005
12:22 pm U.K.

avberk@hotmail.com

Hello,I have a sanyo betacord M-10 which i have had since new (21 years ago but today when i was wanting to play a movie on my favorate old reliable beta it was playing my tape in black and white, i tryed it with a few other tapes to only find out that they also had the same problems even after i cleaned the heads, i was wondering if anyone would know what could be wrong with my beta and if it can be repaired all help would be greatly appriciated Kind Regards Alex ""Long Live Beta""

Homer
Tuesday 10th May 2005
11:08 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

You don't have any lesson to teach anyone about the value of true identity, Salvador/Mike/Alfonso (was that 3 names ???). Besides, we already had this debate about snails and everything at the end of january. Read the older posts.

This should not continue over here. I invite you to get in touch with me at joeviolon@hotmail.com . Thank you.

Mike
Tuesday 10th May 2005
9:09 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Ok HOMER, Glad you didnt answer because it shows that you may also be doing the same thing.

If snails who hide their true identity doesnt bother you, then you are in good company.

Not a problem, because it was easy to knock me, but not one of your own kind..you too are a snail IMO.

When you or others buy one of his Betas off e-Bay, don't come back here crying about snails.

I was screwed by someone who I think was one of the 4 names. I was led to believe this because of his manner of writing and his knowledge of so many machines. Now you know why I was so upset by this "gentleman" and now you see why he was so upset about the NEC.

Olive E Thomas
Tuesday 10th May 2005
7:43 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

TO Joe with the SL-8600 and 10 tapes. That's probably the one Beta VCR with limited utlity value as it cannot play either the B-I tapes from previous Betas or the B-III of subsequent Betas. It is of historical interest however as it's the first Sony Betamax in the US market to incorporate a built-in timer as well as a remote pause. Probably would be good as a Betamovie edit deck.

What were you looking to get for it?

Olive E Thomas
Tuesday 10th May 2005
7:35 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

Been going through and uploading lo-res versions of my collection of Japan Home Market Betamax catalogs at Yahoo Groups Betamax http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Betamax/files/The_Betamax.TO_collection/ for anyone who cares to check them out. Have from 1975 up to 1977 loaded so far. Will probably get into the mid 80s by this evening and hope to finish up by the end of the week if I'm not distracted by other krep.

Homer
Tuesday 10th May 2005
7:23 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

If you are concerned about one's behaviour on this page, I think you should file a complaint to the page owner about it and let him/her decide what actions should be taken. You are trying to get people on your side on a matter of opinion and obviously this doesn't work. Personal attacks won't get you anywhere.

Mike
Tuesday 10th May 2005
6:33 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

HOMER,. I did use another name because of the fact that MAXBETA was using his different aliases BETADOC, StrangeDays (at college computer) and DOCTOR1024.5. . (Total of 4 names as of now)

But youre correct that I WAS a moron for stooping to MAXBETA'S level and I apologize to you and the posters and the originators of this site. You see, I am man enough to realize I have been a jerk by using 2 names and I seek you forgiveness.

Now that we have that out of the way, stop apologizing for the 4 names and tell the group how you feel about this creature using 4 aliases and talking on this page as different people..

lets see if youre a hypocrite or not/

Homer
Tuesday 10th May 2005
1:40 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

Posting under 3 names is such a bad behaviour. But two names is ok, right Alfonso / Mike ?

Mike
Tuesday 10th May 2005
12:18 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Its funny OLIVE that your always have a mouth about SNAILS and impropriety on eBay and this board.

But when it comes to a person using 3 names for no reason other than trying to hide something that he is either buying or selling you defend this sneaky posting.

Maybe there is more than 3 names with this person and this is why your protecting a possible snail .

Good work Olive and now I know why your own site has only 3 names posting on it..

Noel Higgins
Tuesday 10th May 2005
7:50 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Johnathan,

Check out the second palsite suggestion at http://www.palsite.com/slc5tech.html about capstan servo problems and replacing the light blue electrolytics. The capcitors "dry out" and develop high internal series resistance with time. Audio warble is a capstan servo circuit problem affecting tape speed. Replacing audio or video heads wont cure a speed problem.

Mike-????????? who cares what you think!

regards Noel

Sean Meskill
Tuesday 10th May 2005
6:37 am U.K.

smeskill@c0mc@$tDOTnet

Sadly, Joe, both are the case. Non-HiFi/SuperBeta machines, with a few notable exceptions, are usually of little value. The ones that do hold value have some other interesting or unique feature, like a tape changer, an especially durable mechanism, portability, etc.

And for some reason this board attracts the trolls. On another board I know (nothing remotely Betamax related, FYI) it somehow seems that a caustic, angry person somehow ended up as an admin. He does nothing but crap on the "Noobs" if they happen to post an idea that disagrees with his. Ugh.

Jesse Alonzo
Tuesday 10th May 2005
1:13 am U.K.

latinopikachu@yahoo.com

lol, brenda, you want my AC powerbrick for the 2000amie? email me

and i love this queenfight going on the site, LOL

Joe Bonin
Monday 9th May 2005
9:32 pm U.K.

krieghoff@hotmail.com

So after deciding to finally sell my Sony SL 8600 I went to ebay and looked in here. I guess my prestine machine and it's 10 tapes are next to worthless. Gee, and I thought I might make some money on them.

Oh, and ladies and gentlemen, please be respectful with each other. The chat site looks like a warzone exchange between some people. A little decorum please.

Joe

Jonathan Sleep
Monday 9th May 2005
8:14 pm U.K.

jonnyboyplym29@eurobell.co.uk

HiI have a SL5 machine with wobbly sound can anyone suggest a solution.Have tried the usual, adjusting tracking, replacing heads etc still have problem.

Many thanks to Roddney for pointing out the Betamax faults site, managed to solve another problem with C11 (horizontal picture jitter) on AS3 board.

Jonathan Sleep

Homer
Monday 9th May 2005
5:43 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

Calling people "vermin" definately says alot about you, Mike.

Mike
Monday 9th May 2005
3:57 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Very good Noel, so you condone a poster using 3 different names and using this board to be a snail..??

It just shows a lot about you..

Do you have anything to say about the fact that this vermin uses 3 different names. I think its shady and he has an agenda.

Your answer about the 3 names will show this board what your about..

walter
Monday 9th May 2005
4:47 am U.K.

walter_privacy@yahoo.com

i want to chat with you,i am walter schemid

noel higgins
Monday 9th May 2005
3:34 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Ditto what Dave said. And you can cut the "we" bit out unless it is some sort of split personality thing.

Mike
Monday 9th May 2005
3:10 am U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

WOOOOOOO, I guess we hit a nerve with this creature.

You come on this page as BETADOC, MAXBETA and your really DOCTOR1024.5

I originally just posted a moron that bought a NEC for over $50.00.. I had no idea that the Moron was you.

I then went back to eBay because I found it funny that you were so embarrassed about your purchases. THEN I saw the other gems you buy.. Like the TOSHIBA ...LOL and the bunch of SANYO'S.

Your just a funny buyer. I know why you use so many names, I would too if I bought the garbage you buy.

And we cant forget the Peewee tapes and XXX tapes.

Just use your real name and enjoy your bidding on eBay.. Because I do ..LOL

Dave
Monday 9th May 2005
12:37 am U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

Lets all calm down and take a deep breath, for me I don't really care if its NEC sanyo or anything just as long as it works or is a fixer upperI have a number of Betas that still work and I still use every day, so lets all please get back to what this site was for, as a forum for betaThank you

Betadoc
Sunday 8th May 2005
11:22 pm U.K.

betadoc@yahoo.com

Jan--there is something important you need to understand about good ol’ “Mike”--he is pursuing a personal vendetta against me in public while he cowardly hides under his set of fake names. You can tell this is a personal vendetta because he only goes after me, despite the fact that there are hundreds of eBay deals every day that one could poke fun at if they had no life. Good ol’ “Mike” has no interest at all in giving the other buyer of the NEC a hard time, even though he spent more than twice what I spent. You see, it’s not really about the VCR, he just wants to use that as another opportunity to come after me.

Apparently, good ol’ “Mike” thinks this site was created so he could hijack it as a forum for his own twisted purposes? Others have already commented on the fact that good ol’ “Mike” is sick and requires professional attention, so that is certainly not in question. All he needs is any kind of trigger from me to go off. You see, just like a mongrel dog can be conditioned to salivate at the sound of a bell, good ol’ “Mike” will respond to any post from me. So, anyone who uses Betadoc@yahoo.com will get an immediate and idiotic response from that cowardly mongrel. Try it because after all, don’t we ALL need to hear more of what good ol’ “Mike” has to say? I mean, he must really think highly of all of us if he thinks we need him to keep copy/pasting his old posts and saying the exact same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.

What more can be said about good ol’ “Mike?” Well, maybe the rest of you can tell good ol’ “Mike” how valuable his posts have been to you, how much you’ve learned about Betas from him, how much you’ve learned about respect for others, and how you are so looking forward to reading more of his esoteric entries on this site.

Mike
Sunday 8th May 2005
11:03 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Dan, Why dont you read before defending, it wasnt $20.00 it was $50.50 with shipping and the person with 3 names is the one Gloating about his purchase of the NEC.

if you took the time to read , you would see that this Creature uses 3 names and is not a nice person, but I guess to you he is??? How's the weather in Denmark?

Jan Pedersen
Sunday 8th May 2005
10:42 pm U.K.

bcc16571@vip.cybercity.dk

Mike what are the problems?? i dont get it man! $20.50 for a nec beta are almost the same as it was for free that nec looks so nice. you can come to me with a pal model i dont have!then i pay a very good price for it. sometimes if you collect something its not a Q of monny. look at people there collect stamps etc. they pay so much for some rare one, lol and its are only a piece of paper. actualy its are up to the people what they want! if you want a beta vcr then go buy one if not then dont buy one, but most importen please respect other people what they do. best regards Jan H.Pedersen

Mike
Sunday 8th May 2005
10:01 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Very intersting BETADOC, MAXBETA and not to forgot DOCTOR1024., you found another moron that spent even more money than you did for this piece of dreck.

Its funny how you had to search for a week to find another Moron like yourself that spent even more money than you did .. I didn't think that 2 morons existed. At least Moron #2 bought one that worked. I'm sure the one you got had belts that were fine, so it would only take 20 minutes to take it out of the box, check it, repair it and then crow about it on the internet.

While your searching to try to defend your NEC purchase, did you find other people that bought Peewee herman films and XXX filthy films??? Thats disgusting...and what about that electric needle --LOL is that what you need after you find out what you bought on eBay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5765093405

Shaun
Sunday 8th May 2005
9:59 pm U.K.

spmontgomery@ntlworld.com

Does anybody know of a reliable Sony engineer who would be able to service/repair my SLO 1700 in the Bournemouth, Dorset area?I also have a Sony C30 to dispose of for free (not working)

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 8th May 2005
5:33 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

That NEC looks kinda like the electronic wonders the JS&A - the working man's Sharper Image - would've put out in the 80s. They probably would've sold it at a deep discount providing you bought a certain amount of blank tape (again at a competitive price) from them.

Anyone remember them? Or that other company you'd see in the back pages of Popular Sciene/Mechanics DAK? I think they made CB radios (the original internet) back in the day...

Betadoc
Sunday 8th May 2005
2:55 am U.K.

betadoc@yahoo.com

Interesting....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39830&item=5771410380&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

and for just $91.00...oh and don't forget the $30.00 shipping for a total of only $121.00

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 7th May 2005
11:34 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

One of the odder 'suggested' applications for a used Beta SL-2500...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5773029352

"This could be a backup for your old unit or a recorder for your security system."

With the minimum $46 bux you'd have to spend to win this and take it home you could grab a new VHS VCR off the impulse buy blisterpack rack by the checkout counter at WalMart and still have enough change for a couple tapes if you really needed a security system VCR...

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 7th May 2005
11:12 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

You can try clicking on this Brenda...

http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQuestion&requested=thedropzone01&iid=5771366021&frm=284&redirect=0&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_VI

It takes you to a contact member page without the item in question.

The item number was 5771366021

Brenda A Dyer
Saturday 7th May 2005
9:49 pm U.K.

brendad@shinbiro.com

Olive,

RATZ!! I saw your post above just a bit too late. I wish they wouldn't have taken the 'contact seller' links off of completed auctions, I would love to ask if they are going to relist. :(

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 7th May 2005
6:10 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

I wonder how many times this will get relisted and remain unsold...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5772222095

Pervue thinks he can get $ 200 + $32 for shipping for an SL-2000 outfit because he has the boxes and manuals when one that has the ACP-220 power brick (you might want to get that one Brenda) and the carry case is going untouched at a mere $50 start.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771366021

Other SL-2000 outfits on offer include this one still at $11 bux

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5772641899

And this one at $55 that hasn't broken the reserve price and probably won't unless a snail snaps at it...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5772152255

Checking the last couple weeks completed listings and the highest winning bid for an SL-2000 outfit was $46

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5768403792

Next highest bid was for $36 bux

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5768225972

$26 bux would've bagged you an SL-2000, AC-220 and an HVC-2200 camera outfit...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771164113

By the way, be watching 1ziggi1 for a couple SL-2000s and an SL-HF400 he picked up in one lot for $50...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5770253192

daniel
Saturday 7th May 2005
3:28 pm U.K.

dannyboy4lyfe@yahoo.com

hello

Brenda A Dyer
Saturday 7th May 2005
12:17 pm U.K.

brendad@shinbiro.com

Olive,

Those are called PAL connectors. I have a few spares, I'll send back one of each (m/f) when I return your disc.

Mike
Friday 6th May 2005
7:35 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

This is for HOMER: just a correction, his final price for the hifi rewinder was $50.50.never forget shipping. most suckers do but when they mention what they pay they conveniently leave that out ha ha

Olive E Thomas
Friday 6th May 2005
12:00 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

For the video-out you need a BNC connector or adapter. Not sure what the antennae/aerial plug is called - I have an SL-T50ME that needs a European aerial lead if I ever decide to put it in my video grid so it would help me to know...

Stuart
Friday 6th May 2005
11:19 am U.K.

jenstu@earwigo.wanadoo.co.uk

I have just bought a Sanyo Betacord VTC 5150 recorder, and need to get a video out lead and connector for this machine. Could anyone tell me what type of video out connector is on this machine, please?Many thanks.Stuart.

Olive E Thomas
Friday 6th May 2005
2:00 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

NEC aka the Nippon Electric Company mostly developed and built their own Beta VCRs although they sometimes OEM'd from Sony. Although they built a couple portabetas on their own (VC-P1000 & VC-P1040) they had a rebadged SL-F1 (VC-P600) in their Japan Home Market product line as well as OEM-ing a few Betamovie models.

NEC also developed time-lapse security VCRs for the Navco company.

LARRY A GORDON
Friday 6th May 2005
12:17 am U.K.

gordon9@hotmail.com

I AM IN NEED OF CABINET PARTS FOR A TOSHEBIA MODEL 8600 BETAMAX VCR. THE FRONT FACE PIECE OF THE CABINNET IS DAMAGED AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE IT. IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE REPLACEMENT PARTS CAN BE ORDERED OR ANYONE WHO HAS ANY PARTS TO SELL PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT gordon9@hotmail.com

Homer
Thursday 5th May 2005
9:54 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

Reading this last post brings a strange feeling of deja-vu...

Somehow it doesn't relate to me having a large library of Beta pr0n.

Regarding NECs: Are NEC decks OEMed from someone, or is/was NEC a subsidiary of another big nippon corporation ?

I feel like $20.50 for a Hi-Fi tape winder is not such a bad deal.

Mike
Thursday 5th May 2005
9:29 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

With so many great deals on the Bay, why would any moron decide to purchase this example of Betacrap:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5765093405

Maybe for a planter? How about wheel chock for the SUV? Some people are just looking for problems....or maybe the seller wanted out of the auction and bid it off. I just had to write this to point out an ignorant buyer. BTW, this dude Maxbeta/Betadoc and the winner of this tank purchases X-rated filthy movies to play on our revered Betamax machines. That is an outrage.

VVels
Thursday 5th May 2005
10:31 am U.K.

palindromedaris@hotmail.com

Scammers pick up these email adresses? Yes, I noticed that too. Take a look at http://www.scamorama.com for more info on these frauds.

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 5th May 2005
5:40 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

This site seems to be the first stop on all the Nigerian scammers eMail collection rounds. Expect an assload of poor Africans who need YOUR help in abscounding with small fortunes left by people with a remarkable propensity for dying in tragic car/plane crashes. And doing so without any heirs.

Dave
Thursday 5th May 2005
1:11 am U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

To the above personIf some people want to buy what some people might call junk that is there business, I have found this page to be very helpfull, allthough one person got my email and tried to scam me but anyway it just nice to see that there is alot of beta fans out there

RICH
Wednesday 4th May 2005
7:24 pm U.K.

RICHY34@WEBTV.NET

I normally just follow the proceedings on this page, but I feel I must make comment. What has transpired in the last few days is "much ado about nothing". One guy knocks what a buyer purchased, the buyer responds with vitrial way beyond what is called for. One guy has 2 names, the other guy has 3 names. It is all a bit ridiculous. Let's get back to discussing what this page is all about and stop the pomposity and silliness.

Mike
Wednesday 4th May 2005
4:58 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Your correct Olive, its just when I saw this unit without the PS and battery I had a vision of MAXBETA, BETADOC and DOCTOR1024.5 hooking it up to the car battery in their car with 50 ft of wire..The thought of the NEC and that unit on their table is funny.LOL. I cant wait to see what these guys but next!LOLOLO Boys, dont forget to hook the postive lead to the + on the battery..

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Martin
Wednesday 4th May 2005
3:43 pm U.K.

martin_e_p@hotmail.com

Reel to Reel tapes transfered to CD ,2 or 4 tracks mono / Stereo any speed from 1 7/8 ips upto 15 ips , LPs and Audio cassettes also transfered to CD please contact me for details.

Olive E Thomas
Wednesday 4th May 2005
3:08 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

That's actually not a bad VCR to bid for if you have or can get a PS and battery for it.

Mike
Wednesday 4th May 2005
2:28 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL>;>>>>>>LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL>>>>>> 8-) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771083470

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOOOLOLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO

dcotor can surly pickem ..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOLLLLLL

doctor1024.5
Wednesday 4th May 2005
12:42 am U.K.

doctor@NECcrap.com

Hello you all, I did buy that NEC and a few other beautys and some educational tapes .. You might call them filthy tapes.. I buy these tapes to use as head cleaning tapes. I DO NOT watch them. Check the Sony SL-3000 I just got. It didnt work even tho the seller said that it did, but i put it next to the NEC and played the head cleaning tape and it started working. Be back soon to describe other gems I have outbid others to get. I hope my kids Maxbeta and Betadoc dont watch those nasty tapes I have....must hide them till they need adult verification.

Mike
Wednesday 4th May 2005
12:22 am U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

With so many great deals on the Bay, why would any moron decide to purchase this example of Betacrap:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5765093405

Maybe for a planter? How about wheel chock for the SUV? Some people are just looking for problems....or maybe the seller wanted out of the auction and bid it off. I just had to write this to point out an ignorant buyer. BTW, this dude Maxbeta/Betadoc and the winner of this tank purchases X-rated filthy movies to play on our revered Betamax machines. That is an outrage.

Steve P.
Tuesday 3rd May 2005
11:56 pm U.K.

kawninja@cableone.net

Betadoc... don't let the idiots get you down. Like you I have a blast repairing and restoring Beta machines and have quite a few cluttering up the house. Most folks don't understand why, but so what? I could care less what other people think of my hobbies. Life is too short and it's my money...

Betadoc
Tuesday 3rd May 2005
11:24 pm U.K.

betadoc@yahoo.com

To those elite and eclectic elders who feel they have the right to sit in judgement of others, we anxiously await your most efficacious, educational, and epitheisized opinion on this Beta on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5770472353&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Will the judges effervescently label this another "Beta-anchor" that sold for over $55? Stay tuned for their extraordinary opinion and ecumenical pontification from on high from their etheiral environs.

Dave
Tuesday 3rd May 2005
1:13 pm U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

RCA never made a betamax if you noticed he just signed up on ebay yesterday, Too funny

Olive E Thomas
Tuesday 3rd May 2005
4:23 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

What people will resort to to cash in on the used Betamax market!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&?ViewItem&item=5771840338

RCA Selectevison VHS VCR being tauted as a "Betamax" that he can't test because he "doesn't have tapes" to test it with...

StrangeDays
Tuesday 3rd May 2005
2:43 am U.K.

personality@iseverything.com

I didn't say theirs were different. I said that mine was different from theirs. In any event, now that you've been exposed for trolling yourself, you're hardly in a position to cast stones. But I understand your outrage about two or more people who share an opinion different from yours, for which you can find support only in imaginary people.

But that doesn't matter to you. Most antisocial degenerates don't give much thought to their hypocrisy and hate, and tend apply the standards they could never possibly achieve themselves to others as a form of wishful thinking about how their lives might have been.

I hope that your buffoonish behavior on this board ultimately yields some at least unintended cathartic good to you for the benefit of everyone. But at some point, you are going to need some outside help. That's obvious.

Believe it.

Mark
Monday 2nd May 2005
9:42 pm U.K.

kurgan@screaming.net

My last lot of approx 100 beta tapes with TV films on (quite a few westerns). Bargain price £10 the lot. Buyer collects London E4, These are UK PAL recordings, some in HI FI, not original but branded tapes. Tel 07986756696

alfonso
Monday 2nd May 2005
11:17 am U.K.

alfonso@YAHOO.COM

Betadoc and Maxbeta are both: vt-williston-cuda1h4-240.sbtnvt.adelphia.net --> Mike and me are AOL. Hope this helps.

I realise that AOL is not a popular provider and adelphia.net is cooking ..LOL Get alife and get off those NEC drugs

StrangeDays
Monday 2nd May 2005
3:07 am U.K.

personality@iseverything.com

Interestingly, it's alfonso/mike whose posts both come from the same AOL IP.

Now look at mine, maxbeta and betadoc - different IPs.

Look who can formulate coherent sentences. Now look who cannot.

Look at who can communicate useful, on topic information on this board. Now look at who is just a gadfly, spewing bile and adding nothing to the topic, the hobby or civilized ineraction.

But by all means, please continue ranting. Better to find you at your computer venting your limitless anger than riding city buses or being anywhere near socialized people.

noel higgins
Monday 2nd May 2005
2:59 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

To those who want to impose their opinions on others. Just think for a moment.

The majority of the world thinks that collecting or owning any sort of BETA machine is odd past the point of laughter.

To me collecting them and fixing them it is an enjoyable hobby. I keep the machines I like but am happy to fix any model. In the community, there are a lot of older folk out there with their family memories on tape and the only machine they are confident to operate is their pushbutton BETA unit without the bells and whistles whose clock they can still see. Get perspective and play nice PLEASE!

noel higgins
Monday 2nd May 2005
2:52 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Roderick,

I might be able to help you with parts for the SLO-420P and or some information. Trouble is I am in Melbourne.

noel higgins
Monday 2nd May 2005
2:50 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Dave,

It does not work as simple as that. If the tuner is shot and you don't want to fix it but want to record programs to beta then you can use the line out of a VHS machine even or a TV to your betas line in and use that tuner to tune in the station.

Dave
Monday 2nd May 2005
12:26 am U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

Ok maybe someone can help me, I have a Sanyo Model #4650 that I picked up for $5, It seems to work through the RCA jacks but I think the tuner is shot. I was thinking of using a RF converter and a TV converter but not sure if the RF converter will work backwords, going from cable in and out through the RCA jacks or somehow replacing the tunerAny Ideas?

alfonso
Monday 2nd May 2005
12:21 am U.K.

alfonso@YAHOO.COM

StrangeDays, Betadoc and maxbeta please... stop the nonsence with the different names.. No 3 people could think that a NEC is anything but garbage. I see that you bid on XXX Movies.The way you praise this NEC you would think that just having that gem in your room would be enough.. maybe a blow up doll or even better a blow up NEC.

Your a Snail in hiding and you have been outed on this page.. Now live with it! Stay tuned for another name to answer this by Maxbeta!!!!

StrangeDays
Monday 2nd May 2005
12:08 am U.K.

personality@iseverything.com

I think that the NEC VC-739E would be a great "niche" machine to specialize in. I can certainly understand the appreciation for it. There are Toshiba models like that too - arguably as good or better than most Sonys but just not very common/popular. I'd say the Sanyo 7250/Realistic 25 falls into that category as well. I looked at the auction that had initially been criticized here and didn't see anything about it worthy of commenting on here - if you want price-vs.-quality fodder for this board, check completed beta listings, highest prices first, and you will see some real jawdroppers - but at the same time, the rancorous overreaction to it is somehow not befitting a hobbyist with such a dedication to preserving such a quality piece of equipment. The sentiments expressed rather recklessly so far could all be written with a tone and subtlety that gets the point across without clobbering people with it - it's just a question of effort (and some applied intelligence). On the plus side, anything that increases awareness of different aspects of the hobby usually has some identifiable good to it, and despite the prevalent tone, that seems to be the case here. It's a pretty cool machine to which I hadn't previously paid much attention.

alfonso
Sunday 1st May 2005
11:42 pm U.K.

alfonso@YAHOO.COM

I agree, we should all get along , but buying crap and then bragging about it??? ... Thats just too much. At least I got a good laugh after seeing that NEC and I see he buys other gems..LOL You know what they say, one mans crap is another mans gold.. Gold Crap..LOL

Dave
Sunday 1st May 2005
11:10 pm U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

Please why can't we just get along, people we are arguing over 20 year old tech!!

alfonso
Sunday 1st May 2005
7:50 pm U.K.

alfonso@YAHOO.COM

Betadoc, thats true, you do sound like a moron. I had to laugh when I saw that piece of crap that you spent $50.00 with shipping..LOL I might have a collection of crap, I mean great units thatIwould be happy to sell you for your collection.. As far as the NEC that you fixed in 20 minutes, please tell your tales somewhere else..What did you fix on the NEC the blinking clock.Your BS sound exactly other moron (MAX BETA) that posts on this page on a regular basis. So I guess you and MaxBeta have something in common.. 2 morons or the same moron?

StrangeDays
Sunday 1st May 2005
7:42 pm U.K.

personality@iseverything.com

Seems like neither side has done a lot to rate an observer preference in this NEC dustup.

docjudd
Sunday 1st May 2005
9:27 am U.K.

colinjudd@iprimus.com.au

To Max,that red f3 is identical to the Japanese f3 that I have,the writing on the red one is definately Japanese

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 1st May 2005
4:06 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿m

Betadoc; Can you do alignment and repairs? I have a friend with a VC-N65EU that needs final adjustment to play and record properly.

Betadoc
Sunday 1st May 2005
3:25 am U.K.

betadoc@yahoo.com

Mike…I am the “moron” who bought the “eBay crap” to which you refer. I have Betas made by Sony, Sanyo, Toshiba, and NEC in my collection and I can tell you that the NEC betas are among the best.

This particular model, the NEC VC-739E, is a 4-head Beta HiFi that has lots of nice features (e.g., 3 slow motion and 2x speeds). I also happen to have 3 others, two of which had the same problem as the one listed. In other words, here is a machine that I know very well, know exactly how to fix, and even have an extra remote and manual to use with it. From the listing you can see that the machine is cosmetically excellent, so clearly there is no particular reason to believe that the machine has been dropped or been abused.

I’m sure you will be delighted to know that within 20 minutes of opening the box, without spending another penny I had the machine working like the day it was made. It was cleaned, nicely aligned, and every function worked perfectly. The extra VC-739 remote also worked it perfectly.

Some on this site have commented that the VC-739E made by NEC is the best non-Sony Beta HiFi ever made. Now, if you think I and the other two bidders are “morons” for buying “eBay crap” like this for $20.50, then I wonder what your opinion is of all the folks that buy 2-head non-HiFi machines like the Sony SL-2300 (not including the wired remote) and SL-2400 series machines for $250 and more. So let’s see, even by my math that seems to be more than 12 times as much as this “moron” paid for this now beautifully working 4-head HiFi NEC VC-739E (now with remote)!

Oh and by the way, this “moron” also just bought a Sony SL-HF900 for $49.99 that arrived yesterday in perfect shape along with a dozen L-750 tapes. I wonder what you must think of the buyer who just paid more than $380 for the same machine tonight?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5770292003&ssPageName=ADME:B:TB6:US:2

I’m looking forward to hearing your response...that is, after you get your head out of your ass and pull your big stinking foot out of your piehole….Best Regards, Betadoc

Dave
Sunday 1st May 2005
1:10 am U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

To mike about the ebay beta crapThe guy who won that NEC beta buys alot of beta machines including betamovies cameras. But you are right that one is a boat ancore

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