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Ginny
Sunday 19th June 2005
11:34 pm U.K.

vlro1953@aol.com

Somebody help me out here. I have just acquired a Sony SL-5600 Beta Machine. It powers on and that is all. I don't know where to start. I have a tape but the machine will not turn the tape. The motor is running so nothing is moving. Thanks in advance.

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 19th June 2005
8:51 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Goes to show the value of the humble comma. Look at the book pictured for the actual context...

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 19th June 2005
8:48 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Absolute Beta charges FU prices for stuff no better than what you can get off of eBay for 10 times less. And he's quite reasonable compared to 'Mr Betamax'

Noel Higgins
Sunday 19th June 2005
4:02 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Dave,

SHS SVR Beta? Very interesting but not necessarily what it seems. Is also a serious hobbyist (car, hifi and electronics) who is selling off their manuals.

Dave
Sunday 19th June 2005
2:08 am U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

This looks a little funny on ebay in germany, A VHS Betamax?http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27734&item=5781741033&rd=1&ssPageName=WD2V

Noel Higgins
Sunday 19th June 2005
12:01 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Olive,

Thanks for the info. I don't usually browse the US ebay. There were some nice machines.

Yes even I have moved more to DVD media. I have plenty of tapes left. Got about 100 new and some single pass over the last year. That ED beta is a dream machine. Pity for me its NTSC. I am sticking with my 3 HF950s as the working machines for cinema playback / TV time shift and editing suite. The VHS machines I use ae Sony SLV-757 editing and SLV777 in other two locations. My last lot of music video clips for the pool room I did on DVD but I have to learn how to do chapters next time.

Boby,

I can't believe a SL-T50ME costs $895 same as the listed price for an 860D. They are both double or triple what I thought they would cost.

Boby
Saturday 18th June 2005
5:37 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Incredible price

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplaySubCategory?m=0&p=16&sp=133&sm=0&s=&cpos=

Just for reference

http://www.eis.net/lib/start.cgi/absolute/pricing.html

Disable your Ad Blocker/pop up window

http://www-user.interq.or.jp/tkhirosi/avfan/betafan.htm

Noel:Frankly to tell that I got healthy HF 860D for only 30U$ from someone who left his deck at the repair center

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 18th June 2005
3:37 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Here's a Beta that's worth the $400 start bid

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=5783055206

EDV-9500 Extended Definition Beta (Metal tapes). Only Betacam and DV are better than ED Beta. However ED-Metal tapes are pretty hard to find new so you'd have to buy Betacam SP tapes.

A search on "Froogle" seems to indicate lowest price is about $8 - $10 per cassette.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Betacam+SP+small&btnG=Search+Froogle&scoring=p

DV media is down to $2.50 to $3 bux a tape

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?scoring=p&q=DV+cassettes&btnG=Search+Froogle

However DV VCRs are still in the $750 to $1000+ range with camcorders around $500+ bux...

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=DV+VCRs&btnG=Search+Froogle

Meanwhile this SL-HF 750 is up to $267 bux...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5782869911

A lot of zero feedback (shill) and snail bidders...

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=5782869911

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 18th June 2005
11:19 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

That one's the SL-HF 2100 - one of the last Betas designed by Sony. One of the few BIS recorders released to the US market. Same with that SL-HF 1000 model. Both of those were pretty much the best non-ED Betas ever built (along with the SL-HF 750). and they certainly had the most features available in any VCR format.

At the prices those still command, they're actually trying to compete with better formats like Hi8, S-VHS and even DV. Hell even DVD-R equipment has come down in price to the point that any advantages Beta might've held are outweighed by the considerable liablities such as limited repair support and difficulty in obtaining the consumables like blank tapes and camcorder batteries.

All the same, it's amazing that an 'obsolete' format can still fetch that sort of price.

Noel Higgins
Saturday 18th June 2005
9:04 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

What about this one? Does not have a model stated but looks a bit VHS.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39830&item=5782592950&rd=1

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 18th June 2005
8:57 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Looks like the only people snappping at that are the dealersnails and one very plucky noob (or shill bidder). Prolly won't beat the reserve.

Noel Higgins
Saturday 18th June 2005
8:19 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Someone wants a loy of money! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39830&item=5781613088&rd=1

Noel Higgins
Saturday 18th June 2005
1:55 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Boby,

Not all the dead 950s will have bad heads so you would have a good deal. It's just that who has 5 dead 950s for sale.

Alan,

The UK price for export does not include VAT so you save about 17% I think. Still works out at about what I said. $400 Aus.

Boby
Friday 17th June 2005
9:33 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Sorry to say that the price on that New Disk Assy is like buying 5 units of HF950 dead or alive.......((I'm giving up on BETA))

Boby
Friday 17th June 2005
9:18 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Seems this page is right on track now.........//_______________________________I'd just remember that transfering from MiniDV into DVD costs around 50U$ each, on my local market.....not bad for a bussines oportunity heuheueheue

jeffoldbean
Friday 17th June 2005
6:28 pm U.K.

0ldbean@gotadsl.co.uk

James and Alan, spares are available in the UK from Yorkshire Multi-Media Services Tel 01274 688877.Ask for Ray. He can order what is available, genuine Sony parts. Heads for the SLHF 950. Part No A6762260A Disk ASSY(DSR-78-R),price £122+vat.Email:multispares@wwmail.co.ukwebsite:www.ymms.co.uk

jeffoldbean.

James
Friday 17th June 2005
5:39 pm U.K.

pseudojam@hotmail.com

Hello, i am after service manuals for the SL-C9 (PAL) and the SLO-1700 (PAL). Also, does anyone know of a source of pinch rollers and belts for these models in the UK ? Grandata no longer seem to have stock.Thanks

Olive E Thomas
Friday 17th June 2005
5:36 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Old Trinicon cameras don't seem to be going for much these days. There's not that many around but there's not much call for them either. $10 to $50 is about the range for them.

Kathryn
Friday 17th June 2005
3:24 pm U.K.

Williamska1@aol.com

Oops.... scrap the last message,It's a TRINICON.... but i'm sure you experts knew that was a mistake!!

Kath (Very silly) Williams

Kathryn
Friday 17th June 2005
3:21 pm U.K.

Williamska1@aol.com

Hi there

I have a Sony Trinitron HVC - 4000P.It is in mint condition, it belongs to my father who has kept it safe. Is it worth anything?

Would appreciate your help,Kathryn. ;-)

Noel Higgins
Friday 17th June 2005
8:08 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

David,

Assuming you are not the person in US custody, I replied to your email direct. I can help you. Sounds like you have a top load Sanyo.

Alan.

The 950 heads were available in Australia last time I enquired for around $400Aus. The HF 150 heads should work on normal speeds but you lose the trick play slow motion modes. They don't have the split video head like the SLC9 (non-hifi) and HF950.

regards Noel

Sean Meskill
Friday 17th June 2005
2:12 am U.K.

smeskill@c0mc@$tDOTnet

Good luck Brenda, I've got a 900 myself and It's great. I had Andy Sanchez turbocharge it, but to be 100% honest that was many years ago and I'm not sure he's still around. However I know you to be quite good with electronics so you could probably do it yourself. That *MAY* be why it's not happy with the BIs tapes...

Brenda A Dyer
Thursday 16th June 2005
11:09 pm U.K.

brendad@shinbiro.com

Finally got my long-awaited SL-HF900 yesterday.. it took a bit over two months to arrive. Seems to have made the trip more or less intact, however, the tracking is problematic, and it only played a 1 tape for a few seconds before ejecting it (it never played it again). I expect it needs a good cleaning of the transport, and possibly an alignment. We'll see.

Boby
Thursday 16th June 2005
7:58 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

THE HF150ES DISK ASSY(DSR-64-R)

PART NUMBER: A-6762-226-A

I was told that this can solve HF 950 rotary-videohead replacement yet I'd done some experiment on this, Not bad for substitution. DONT TRY ANYTHING IF YOU'RE NOT SURE !!!.

Boby
Thursday 16th June 2005
7:35 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

We had discussed about HF 950 replacement and manipulation a year or so.

Alan Morton
Thursday 16th June 2005
6:51 pm U.K.

adm222@yahoo.com

Does nyone know if the heads for the SLHF 950 are still available. Got my deck back from the shop yesterday adn was told that the output on one head is about 1/6 that of the other meaning it has worn out. Having just lost his sony parts account he is unable to order trhough the most direct means although he said he still has access to their computer whihc tells him what is around- the part is still listed with a price but there are none in stock in Kansas Ciy- (there is another message if it is something tey never expect to hve again) which he siad could mean they are not being stocked in the US since there are not many of them over here, thus was wondering if thye are avialable in places whee PAL is used UK, Eurpoe Austrlia etc? Also it apears as if the points where I was getting no sound do have it but in order to hear it the tracking must be adjusted to a muh more precise point than with sound on the rest of the tape. Need to go back and find out if the last things I recorded are that way. Being in US use it for playback much more than recording since ther are no PAL signals coming at me over the ar or from outer space.

David Hadaway
Thursday 16th June 2005
4:36 pm U.K.

dhad00@_N0_SPAMM_yahoo.com

Thx to Olive Thomas for the tip on a service manual for the EDV-9500 which I have been looking for for a while. I guess Jean Pierre was looking for something free. It's about 2" thick with foldouts.

Nurudeen Mohammed
Thursday 16th June 2005
2:39 pm U.K.

dadcomnuruabd@yahoo.com

I need to have a short course on bussiness management preferably for six month or one year beginning from this month or early next month

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 16th June 2005
7:36 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Leave it to Ray Glasser to find one of the most definitive articles on the rise and demise of the Betamax format....

http://www.betainfoguide.com/RiseandFall.htm

David Hicks
Wednesday 15th June 2005
12:02 pm U.K.

stix_hix@hotmail.com

To Noel Higgins, You sound like your heart's in the right place, and you understand there is a place in the world for those who enjoy Beta players. In my case, a Beta VCR AND a Macintosh puts me firmly in the totally and blissfully insane corner! Anyway, my query is - like many others I am in the middle of transferring Beta archives to DVD and my machine has decided it does not want to thread the tape when loading. Thus I am looking for a repairer (in Melbourne) who knows what they are doing. Are you interested, or can you suggest a repair business that handles this format if you know one? Assuming the unit is repairable, once I finish archiving I intend to pass the machine on to another Beta owner as I will no longer need it (although it will be like saying goodbye to a loyal friend). Regards, David Hicks

ali
Wednesday 15th June 2005
1:23 am U.K.

tito_bito@yahoo.com

hello

Olive E Thomas
Tuesday 14th June 2005
2:28 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Somebody actually spelled that often cut-n-pasted phrase "and is highly sought after by armatures and professionals" properly!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5782055740

Boby
Sunday 12th June 2005
6:09 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotnail.com

http://www.walrus.co.uk/audiocentre/index.htmupdate your URL

http://toyvax.glendale.ca.us/~vance/betaphile.html

http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/betamax/

Some cable I need

http://www.allthings.com.au/Baluns/balun.html

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________If anybody need a Betamovie/Betacam Original Rotary Assy(video head). Just drop a line at my mail above.I might find some reamaining parts for U.

Homer
Sunday 12th June 2005
5:30 am U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

Jamie, I've never heard audio from a linear stereo VCR, but I'm not sure about the quality since each channel track is half as wide as the standard mono track. Add the low tape speed, you might get relatively poor sound quality. I think these linear stereo units had some kind of noise reduction system la Dolby, which I think is a matter of taste if you like or dislike. My Dolby experimenting is limited to compact cassette and I didn't like it very much as it cuts in the higher frequency range.

Homer
Sunday 12th June 2005
5:22 am U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

The 9500 seems to have a very similar layout to that of the 1000. I wonder if the 1000 could be modified with S inputs / outputs...

About my flaky keys, the front panel is well in place. Some keys work ok. I think the non working ones got that way because they are seldom used (I use the remote 99% of the time) and they must have gone dirty. The one key that I use the most, which is the eject key, works as new.

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 12th June 2005
3:48 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Another fine Beta page brought back from 404-land...

http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/kimnachbeta.html

Oh, to have been able to buy an SL-HF 2100 and an EDV-7500 brand new!

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 11th June 2005
11:03 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Well most of my Yahoo FTP space has gone to Mac installer files I share with the MacDrivers group I help moderate as well as some sound files for the "She-Snailie happy fun sound page"

http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/shesnailiesoundpage.html

I've added a few links to the bottom of a modified Olive Garden page but that's about it. I'd been loath to change it because I didn't want to lose the ability to change it in Page Wizard.

http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/Olive_Garden_of_delights.html

Most of my 'extensive files' consist of just about every piccy of a Betamax ever put on the net where Google can find it. I'd actually saved the text of one Beta page and I used 'The Internet Archive Wayback Machine' http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html to find the HTML for some other groups.

Sean Meskill
Saturday 11th June 2005
9:44 pm U.K.

smeskill@c0mc@$tDOTnet

Olive, does the Betamax goddess (that would be you) have an index or front page more inclusive than the one I still have bookmarked? Mine's just got the three pictures of VCRs and the one of the acress who shares you name... "The Olive Garden of Earthly Delights" it's called... You seem to have extensive archives, I'm just curios what can be accessed.

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 11th June 2005
2:28 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

I found the html of another lost old Betapage that I rather liked and since I had a lot of the images on file I thought I'd load it to my FTP space.

http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/tonysvideopage.html

Contains full pages of his Betamax collection and of his video collection.

Gene
Saturday 11th June 2005
1:45 pm U.K.

n0mq@sbcglobal.net

I need a Schematic of a Sony SL-2300. Thanks for you help.Also is there more then one fuse in the unit? I found one on the power supply. ThanksGene

Dave
Saturday 11th June 2005
12:28 pm U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

Very interesting story Homer, it just goes to prove a point that people go with what everyone else has not what is better, look at apple and windows.

Jamie Lovas
Saturday 11th June 2005
8:51 am U.K.

jlovas@tpg.com.au

Hi Fellow Beta followers,

Just a quick question.... Is a linear stereo betmax model (eg. SLC40 ) much better than mono betamax ? as i am looking at buying an slc40, but already have an SLF60.

thanks

jeffoldbean
Saturday 11th June 2005
7:03 am U.K.

0ldbean@gotadsl.co.uk

to homer, remove the front panel. Then try operating switches, with your finger.If for some reason. The front panel was not seated properly. The buttons will not actuate the switches properly, when pressed. It just seems unusual that ALL of the switches are troublesome.

jeffoldbean.

Homer
Saturday 11th June 2005
2:40 am U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

Does anyone know if tact switches could be cleaned or otherwise fixed ? It seems one of my VCRs has almost all its front panel buttons either unresponsive or flaky. Could something be done with them besides replacement ?

Homer
Saturday 11th June 2005
2:29 am U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

Chris, here's another interesting point of view about beta demise...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/comment/story/0,12449,881780,00.html

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 11th June 2005
12:00 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

To Chris...

Here are a few good articles on Betamax

http://AroundCNY.com/technofile/texts/howbetadied.htm

http://www.r-vcr.com/~television/TV/betamax.htm

If you're having trouble viewing the page I've set up a mirror version...

http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/Betamax.html

Essentially the story boils down to a string of bad marketing decisions on Sony's part, the home recording lawsuit, and the ability of VHS to get more licensees on startup as well as the longer tape time - and resultant cheaper operating costs of VHS that ultimately did Beta in.

Chris
Friday 10th June 2005
10:09 pm U.K.

chris.denove@jdpa.com

NEED INFO ON HISTORY OF BETA: I'm writing a book that includes descriptions of products that although superior, failed due to marketing miscalculations. Needless to say I want to include the Beta story. Would anybody who knows about the marketing mishaps related to Beta please e-mail me. The book is almost complete, but my editor agrees that we should include the Beta story. Look forward to hearing from anyone with insight into the issue. Thank you... Chris Denove

Boby
Friday 10th June 2005
9:44 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotnail.com

have a peek on this pages......

http://www.cedmagic.com/history/betamax-sl-7200-1976.html

more on sl-F3

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://www.echigo.ne.jp/~shokaku/AV/visual/BETA.htm

Bid on Hf66

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://www.bidders.co.jp/item/49737321

For some reason I'd modified the SCART to RCA, works out well.

http://www.proav.de/index.html?http&&&www.proav.de/data/cables/scart-pinout.html

Boby
Friday 10th June 2005
8:57 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotnail.com

Hi Colin

you'll find a bit of sl-f3 on this page

http://home2.highway.ne.jp/soutoku/Beta/Betamax.html

docjudd
Friday 10th June 2005
10:20 am U.K.

colinjudd@iprimus.com.au

Hi,Bobi,welcome back,I have a Japanese sl-f3,it is built like a brick you know what,a very solid built piece of equipment.

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 9th June 2005
10:29 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

More service manuals.

http://www.servicemanuals.net/results.aspx?type=SM&brand=160&model=SL-HF

HiFi VCRs (too many listings with just SL)

http://www.servicemanuals.net/results.aspx?type=SM&brand=160&model=BMC

For Betamovies...

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 9th June 2005
10:22 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

To Jean Pierre looking for an EDV-9500 service manual:

Found one here...

http://www.servicemanuals.net/results.aspx?type=SM&brand=160&model=EDV-9500

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 9th June 2005
7:59 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

There was a point during the McCarthy witch hunt era when people finally got it that Senator McCarthy was an asshat. Mike you've just passed that point. Boby is a much loved friend of this board and you're way out of line snapping at him. If it hadn't been clear before, it should be clear now that you are not welcome here.

Rest assured that you've been reported to the board moderators and to AOL as well.

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 9th June 2005
7:38 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

The remote in that auction is worth more than the actual SL-F205 (Japanese version of the SL-S600) on offer.

If you "walk" the images on that second URL you get a lot of nice piccies of that fellow's pet rabbits. The folder I saved his webpix in is actually called "Bunnies 'n Betas"

http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/image26.gif

Looks like he's about to call for a jihad... or a mass sucide amongst his true believers...

Boby
Thursday 9th June 2005
7:33 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotnail.com

Woh wow wov did I missed something above my post.

I havent been here for a while and now its like an Unreal Tournament 2004.....

Where were we..??????

Boby
Thursday 9th June 2005
7:18 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotnail.com

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://www.waseda.jp/itc/services/av/16G404.html

Make yourself at home ,I assumed you got what it means.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/beta.html

Wanna bid at this Japanese EBAY , I bet you will

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://auction.woman.excite.co.jp/item/49407187

Cant get enough with that, try this.

http://www002.upp.so-net.ne.jp/nu-mac/betamax3.html

JSP
Thursday 9th June 2005
7:59 am U.K.

no@way.com

"Noel, I must say after your posting you come across as a dispicable human being and there can be no hemming or hawing on that judgement."

Mate now your playing with fire. take a hike ;) chill out!

when I get all agro like you, I dont go after people on the internet relying on the fact no one can get me in my comfy home cos you must feel inadequate, I sit in front of my 12 foot wide torus screen and watch movies of my editing pair of HF950 's though a lumagen HD scaler into a nice pair of stacked nec PGplus's :) go beta!

Noel Higgins
Thursday 9th June 2005
7:50 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Mike

Like I said before I dont care what you think I am just sick of hearing from you. Despicable? Are you Elma Fudd?

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 9th June 2005
4:32 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

It's more important on VCRs that go outdoors and come back in. Changes in temperatur/humidity can cause moisture to condensate on the video heads and other metal parts. Needless to save this has the potential to damage tapes and machine. Many Sonys had a DEW light in their flourescent displays. The SL-2000 had a built in heater to warm up the video head drum if there was a danger of dew condensation.

joplinbeta
Thursday 9th June 2005
4:24 am U.K.

kawninja@cableone.net

Regarding the Sanyo VCR-3, folks on Ebay selling Sanyo Betas sure like mentioning the 1984 LA Olympics stickers. They think that sticker makes their VCRs rare and valuable, when in fact I've seen very few Sanyos that didn't have one.

joplinbeta
Thursday 9th June 2005
4:13 am U.K.

kawninja@cableone.net

I have several Sony Betamax and Sanyo Betacord VCRs. The Sanyo units have dew indicators, but the Sony units do not. Also I don't see many references to dew with VCRs made after the mid 1980s or so. Why was keeping an eye on dew so important to early VCRs and why is there no reference to it with today's VCRs? Just curious.

Thanks,Steve P.Joplin, MO

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 9th June 2005
1:30 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Sanyo VCR-3 on offer...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5780883828

Tell me that is not really a rebadged Sony VCR.

Mike
Wednesday 8th June 2005
12:57 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

NOEL, Not perfect, People are not perfect.. Are you kidding or on VCRGARY'S payroll??

He took money from people who paid him, and never sent the Betamax.. He made a judgement to do this and was thrown off ebay because he's a crook>> He's not perfect???

You people hate ME so much that you would make yourselves look deranged by defending a person who intentionally stole money from innocent victims..

Noel, I must say after your posting you come across as a dispicable human being and there can be no hemming or hawing on that judgement.

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 8th June 2005
8:29 am U.K.

noel.higgins@nospam.aca.gov.au

Mike,

Contribute something useful to PALSITE like your absence for instance. People don't mind hearing opinions - that's fine. BUT, they don't having your opinions rammed down they their throats. I agree with Sean. You could do with a little more compassion. Some people are not perfect like you.

jeffoldbean
Wednesday 8th June 2005
8:11 am U.K.

0ldbean@gotadsl.co.uk

to adm222, How long have you been using this machine. I think you will have to get the ACE head assembly changed.If you make a recording and play it back, at the beg/mid/end of the tape what is the Beta Hi Fi sound like?.known good tapes Should play back ok. Its only when you have replayed a new recording that you will get this sound problem.A lot depends on the condition of the ace head. Part No is A6761093A it fits SLHF 950 /E/ESGetting this part maybe difficult, and even more difficult getting it fitted, so that, your machine will playback, both old recorded tapes, as well as new recordings.

jeffoldbean.

Olive E Thomas
Wednesday 8th June 2005
4:24 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Very rare Pioneer VX-50 Beta HiFi VCR...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5780541432

At $85 already. I bet it'll go home with some plucky gastropod...

Mike
Wednesday 8th June 2005
1:57 am U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

HOMER, Got your email about VCRGARY.. I understand and will do what you said..

I think for future messages we should stick to our private emailing..

Mike

adm222
Tuesday 7th June 2005
11:39 pm U.K.

adm222@yahoo.com

Have recently been copying some stuff with my SL HF950 and come acros a werd problem and was wondering if anyone else has ever had a similar one and if so knows the cause and fix? At ponts where I have made an edit- come out of pause- when I play the tape back there are several seconds during whihc the audio on the HiFi track will not play back- all is silent- linear is OK. This has been happening on a regular basis. Very weird, ther is no problem in terms of the picture being jittery when I come out of the edit.

Ian Walters
Tuesday 7th June 2005
9:26 pm U.K.

kik@hawaii.rr.com

I'm in Honolulu, Hawaii and my PAL 220volt Sanyo VTCM10 has just started eating tape. From what I've read since the breakdown, particularly on Colin99.co.uk's webpages, my machine may need more repairing than I first thought.

So... can anyone sell me a really good condition PAL 220volt Beta VCR?

In fact, I just need the player section to be very OK (no need for the tuner or recorder).

Homer
Tuesday 7th June 2005
8:51 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

That is because of your blatant failure at providing any valuable argument.

Mike
Tuesday 7th June 2005
8:22 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Homer, I believe you are right. BTW I really enjoy our private email chats, love ya!

Homer
Tuesday 7th June 2005
8:14 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

I don't think people have changed their view or attitude regarding snails. I'd rather say people are ignoring you and your perpetuous rantings.

Mike
Tuesday 7th June 2005
12:56 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=vcrgary01

This board goes absolutly CRAZY if they find a "SNAIL" over charging for a Betamax..

I bring up VCRGARY and not a word, not even from the mouth of Olive who in the past had many nasty things to say about him.

I'm just the messenger. Let's all get together and get rid of more of these snails and dishonest sellers that you all constantly talk about but are for some reason now silent.

The silence makes me believe this board has lots of snails and crooks under different names.

Dave
Tuesday 7th June 2005
10:41 am U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

Great page Olive looks we are not the only crazy ones to collect old tech, but I know as you feel that it important to keep this stuff going for history

Olive E Thomas
Tuesday 7th June 2005
12:05 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Video Killed the Radio Star. The fellow running the Total Rewind site got a feature page on the BBC's "i-collect" series...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southerncounties/interactive/i-collect/video_players/my_collection.shtml

Das Snail_@_oo
Monday 6th June 2005
9:02 pm U.K.

DasImperator-snail-@AlmostOnLine.com

To Jean-Pierre: Scanning a service manual to PDF would require a considerable amount of time and trouble to be asking someone to do it for free - and service manuals are not the easiest thing in the world to scan. There are a lot of oddly-sized foldouts to contend with. You'd be better off looking for an online place that sells service manuals because I doubt someone will be willing to scan all 200 or so pages of an EDV-9500 service manual for free.

Boby
Monday 6th June 2005
6:35 pm U.K.

bobyboZ@yaho.com

Mr Sunagari's room

http://homepage1.nifty.com/maasan/beta_macs/tsunagari_room.html

Dont get confused with the languange.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://kousoku-web.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sl2100.html

Jean-Pierre (Toronto Canada)
Monday 6th June 2005
11:55 am U.K.

pierrepairman@hotmail(NOSPAM).com

HELLO, PLEASE, I HELP TO YOU, I NEED SERVICE MANUAL SONY ED-BETA EDV-9500 DEAD (ADOBE ACROBAT, IF YOU HAVE SCANNER), THANK YOU (MERCI). JEAN-PIERRE

Mike
Monday 6th June 2005
11:45 am U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

Great Tap dancing Sean, and if I had time I would try to decipher your comments.

So that the board will know what type of person that you are, because Vcr gary helped you, the fact that he sold our beloved Betas and kept the money mean nothing.

If Jeffrey Dommer helped you finance your college education then you would defend him even after what we all know about this subhuman.

You got more upset over Someko getting lots of money for his betas than you do at this creep. At least Someko delivers product.

I'm very dissapointed at you and will be very leary of anything you say about other so called "snails".

Sean Meskill
Monday 6th June 2005
8:13 am U.K.

smeskill@c0mc@$tDOTnet

Well I picked just the time to check this board... and it's still its old self, I see.

@Mike: I have dealt with VCRGary in the past. He seems like a nice person, actually, and was quite willing to help me diagnose a VCR I didn't even buy from him. He's also sold me some really great VCRs in private trades. When one SLO-1800 turned out to be a junker, he sent me the pick of the litter. He's honest that he's no great shakes about Betamax decks, though, and doesn't really try to fix them since he doesn't know how in many cases. However nice people can be ruthless businessmen, and his Ebay prices have always stood on the high edge of fair for what he provides (With at least his SVHS machines you know he's gone over them and seen that they operate), yet right now he's dropped off ebay... I know he's got a bunch of EDV-9500s or Sports Systems that have a Certain problem that I know how to fix, but he doesn't, and I'm trying to work a trade for some real high-end SVHS decks that I've got that don't work... yet he's not returned two emails and his phone rings to no avail. I urge you to take him at face value.

Olive E Thomas
Monday 6th June 2005
6:10 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

A Betamax VCR operates no differently than their VHS cousins in terms of connection to a TV set. If you're still not getting audio after following these checklist you may have an equipment problem with either the TV, the VCR or the cables your using.

You should be able to get audio from a Betamax onto any TV. I'm guessing you tried using the standard RF cable. You'd need to check if the RF-modulator on the VCR is set to the channel (3 or 4) you tried to receive it on the TV set. Also make sure the TV/VCR switch on the Beta is set to VCR - an indicator should light up on the VCR.

SL-2300 uses a standard mono A/V cable so hookup shouldn't be an issue. If your Sharp is a stereo TV you'll either need a Y jack to get audio into both channels or to see if the TV requires you to put a mono cable into the left or right jack to get sound out of both speakers.

Check your TV's manual for audio input setup. Some TVs have an audio limiter than can decease or silence input volume (IE to protect against hearing loud static when inputting from a VCR not hooked to an antennae lead). This can give the false impression of diminished or no sound.

If you have other video equipment in you A/V setup make sure they're not interfering with the Beta's output. If you'd inadvertantly installed the RF cables backwards on one of the machines in the chain of video equipment that can cause a visible picture without sound.

Cables sometimes go bad and lose concuctivity. Check them on other A/V equipment to rule out any faults. The connections on a VCR can also suffer from oxidation. repeated inserting and removing a cable, twisting it in the jack a little can resolve minor corrosion-related problems.

Lastly make sure the audio head on the SL-2300 has been properly cleaned with isopropyl alcohol and a cleaning swab. Heads do get gunked up to silence with time and old tapes.

Kory Mitchell
Monday 6th June 2005
5:12 am U.K.

mitch2312_99@yahoo.com

Hello I'm new to this page but I have a question about the audio on the betamax SL2300 video cassette recorder. I recently tried to play the machine on a sharpe tv set and there was no audio, now my questions are?Does it matter the type of tv you play the betamax on?Since my tv comes with outlets for both left and right audio is it possible to play the betamax on this television set?Do I need a cable to handle both video and audio all in one line that's to the back of my television set?If anyone can answer these questions then please get back to me.Kory from Georgia

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 5th June 2005
3:36 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

I completely forgot that I had this archived...

http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/BetaInfo.html

Was the old "Beta the Better Format" page that had gone to 404-land some time last year or so. I had downloaded it almost a decade ago at the NY State Library's internet terminal down at the South Mall in Albany and found I still had it on an old floppy disc.

Mike
Sunday 5th June 2005
2:47 pm U.K.

walrismak@pacbellnospam.net

This is why this board has deteriorated to a point where Sean Meskill had defended this miscreant and made excuses for his "indiscretions"--HEY SEAN< come on in and tell the people what a GREAT GUY he is--- got to give this creature VCRGARY credit, sold units for over $500,00 and never sent it -- Maybe that's why hes a hero to SEAN? Let me see if people knock me for pointing out a crook and his apologist.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=vcrgary01

jeffoldbean
Sunday 5th June 2005
8:26 am U.K.

0ldbean@gotadsl.co.uk

to Olive Re flourescent display.disconnect machine from mains then power back up again. still does not work.display is like a valve. The wires pass through the glass encapsulation. Air may have got in (gone soft).The ribbon wire is quite hard and springy,and some may have broken. check this.If all is ok, then the power supply TO the board/s.On a (CN connector) The display is wired to will have to be checked. Look in block diag section of manual, possably TM board. let me know how you progress.

jeffoldbean.

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 5th June 2005
1:01 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

My SL-T50ME 's flourescent display has completely gone out but otherwise the unit functions normally (at least playing tapes). This unit sits plugged in on a high shelf away from any possible source of damage. I hadn't done anything to it - it just went out. And it had gone out when I wasn't looking because I only discovered the outage when I went to play a tape.

Any idea where to start looking for the cause? I have the service manual. I suppose it's wishfull thinking that it's just gonna be a fuse problem

jeffoldbean
Saturday 4th June 2005
8:46 am U.K.

0ldbean@gotadsl.co.uk

To John Paul.Intermittent Faults are the worst to find.SLHF 860 I think the problem is caused by dryed out electolitic cap/s in the YC board. In the chroma area of the board. You could replace them with new ones, a long job.Do not be tempted to adjust any of the Potetiometers, on the board, running your finger over the chroma area, on the board may localize the offending cap.If you replace any. make sure the new ones are fitted the right way round.I would also fit 105 degree c ones. Same working voltage or next, and value.

jeffoldbean.

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 4th June 2005
8:23 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

In theory you probably could replace the head disc yourself but I'd really recommend having a professional do it.

John Paul
Saturday 4th June 2005
4:56 am U.K.

johnpaul@videotron.ca

Re: Heads for SL-360

Thanks Olive. I've eamiled for a quote. Could I replace them myself, or do the have to be specially aligned?

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 4th June 2005
1:36 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

Taiko Company has SL-HF 360 head discs available.

http://www.taikovideo.com/Details.asp?Recordset2_Action=Find('ID','6794')&Recordset2_Position=FIL%3A%28Manufacturer+%3D%27sony%27%29ORD%3AABS%3A269KEY%3A6794PAR%3A

John Paul
Friday 3rd June 2005
11:52 pm U.K.

johnpaul@videotron.ca

I have an SL-HF860 that has developed the following problem. It plays fantastically well for 30 minutes or so then the colour vanishes. Image quality is very good, just B/W. Forward and backwards Betascan reveal colour image. If the machine does not operate for a month or so, the colour image will remain a lot longer, but always kicks over to B/W. Any ideas?

As a second question, I also have an SL-360 with bad heads. All else is fine. How much for replacement head drum and does anyone in Eastern Canada repair?

Thanks

John

Leonard Hancock
Friday 3rd June 2005
10:15 pm U.K.

sandlapperh@peoplepc.com

Regarding Sanyo Betacord, Model #4650. Problem is after playing tape for about 30/45 minutes; the tape pops out. You reload, works great for about the same period. Any ideas or is this a problem for a VCR Repair Shop? Any help appreciated.

Olive E Thomas
Friday 3rd June 2005
9:26 pm U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

What more can one say about damn dirty Canadians that hasn't been sung by the cast of South Park.?

Pretty much cut and pasted his description from the old Betaphile Club site http://toyvax.glendale.ca.us/~vance/betaphile.html

Including a lot of stuff that really doesn't apply to the Beta camcorders...

Dave
Friday 3rd June 2005
8:35 pm U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

I don't think that a Betamovie is all that rare according to this person,http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7519962729&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1I have 3 of them and I think $80 is a little too much

Dave
Thursday 2nd June 2005
4:02 pm U.K.

Betamax@rogers.com

Hi try to check the fuses on the power cord maybe it just poped one

Gene
Thursday 2nd June 2005
12:58 pm U.K.

n0mq@sbcglobal.net

I have a mint Sony SL-2300 that will not power up. I got it 5 years ago and it had never been used. Tested it at that time and it worked great. Been setting all this time and when I hooked it up and pushed the power button I can not get it to turn on. The clock comes on.Please help. thanksGenePittsburg, Ks

docjudd
Thursday 2nd June 2005
10:04 am U.K.

colinjudd@iprimus.com.au

Olive,those sandgropers in Western Australia are renowned for stealing things and would not pay copywright in a zillion years

Olive E Thomas
Thursday 2nd June 2005
1:14 am U.K.

olive_e_thomas@yah.cm

I hope PALsite gets a cut from this flagrant theft of bandwidth...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5779046516

Jean-Pierre (Toronto Canada)
Wednesday 1st June 2005
8:30 am U.K.

pierrepairman@hotmail.com

HELLO, I HELP TO YOU, I NEED SERVICE MANUAL SONY ED-BETA EDV-9500 DEAD (ADOBE ACROBAT, IF YOU HAVE SCANNER), THANK YOU (MERCI).JEAN-PIERRE

Das Snail_@_oo
Wednesday 1st June 2005
12:51 am U.K.

DasImperator-snail-@AlmostOnLine.com

_@_oo - New content at my Betamax page!

http://uk.geocities.com/dasimperator/betamovieposter.html

Not much I admit, but I don't see anyone else adding to the Betamax body of knowledge...

http://uk.geocities.com/dasimperator/My_Betamax_Page.html

The main page.

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