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Longtime Listener
Thursday 8th February 2007
4:14 am U.K.

750ESB@irna.org

Here's a little puzzle for you all to test your Betamax model skills:

Analyze this "Hi-Fi Ready" "SL-10." I think I figured out what's going on here.

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 7th February 2007
11:29 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Christian,

Re the Sony SLC6UB. If you have a monitor with AV in and out you can check the quality of tapes on playback. If you are going only to your TV by the TV cable then you will have to set the TV to view the VCR. In Australia the output is adjustable from UHF channel 31 to 38. The control is at the back and you need a special plastic screw driver.

There is a cover on top on the machine top left hand side. Take it off and set the switch closest to the centre and front to test. This brings up the test signal which may already be on by your description. Next tune your TV in for best picture tone. You don't need a tape in to do this. When tuned in to your TV put the test switch to off.

Without a tape playing you can set up the tuner channels using the adjustments under this same top cover. Play a tape and see how you go now. Adjust the external tracking control to give bets picture. A common fault with these machines is loss of vertical (capstan "tracking") and horizontal sync (drum control).

See how you go.

regards Noel (betaheaven.com)

christian swain
Wednesday 7th February 2007
10:31 am U.K.

christianswn@yahoo.co.uk

Hi guys.Since last Sunday (4th Feb).I have become the proud owner of an apparently fully functioning SL-C6UB recorder. It doesn't have any problems with switching on, lighting up, playing forwarding and rewinding tapes or any of that stuff. I just can't actually get any kind of picture from it on my telly. I managed to bring up something that may have been the test signal (I can't be sure) but actual playback pictures have been conspicuous by their absence so far. If anyone has any idea what I might be doing wrong. Please let me know. All advice greatfully recieved.

Ta

Yours

Brand new inexperienced betamax owner

doctor1024 (405)
Monday 5th February 2007
4:41 pm U.K.

Henry@pastyface.adelphia.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160054941726

Placed a bid on the above baby to bake my shedding beta collection, but as you can see others had the same idea..

My wife Grace told me after the fiasco with melting Beta tapes in her oven to stop this nonsense with theses filthy piles of Betamax's and grow up and find a healthy hobby.

She really let me and my kid have it and said that its sick enough that you made my home into some sort of Beta shrine for these Piles and piles and piles of Beta machine, now your destroying my kitchen... Boy was she wound up, the kid and I were laughing inside as she scolded us..What does she know about these piles of beautiful Betas..

I went to one of the many Beta rooms and contemplated what I have done to my family and my home because of this sick fetish with buying and storing old Betamax's. Many are the same models..

I looked deep in my soul and tried to think of what I have done to our lovely family because of eBay and buying Betamax's and honestly I could think of NOTHING>.Enough Said!! I feel better now!!

I went on with thoughts of repairing my shedding Beta tapes. I turned on one of my many computers, went to the old bay and typed in the search ( Beta oven). I was surprised that nothing was listed. I tried cooking VHS tapes, Baking Beta and so on..

Finally my kid said (HELLOOOO)dada , Put in the ebay search for incubator dad.. BINGO!!! I found one on ebay!!!!!!!!

As you can see I was the FIRST to bid on this baby and then a bunch of others who probably have shedding tapes came in like a bomb and bought this ( BETA OVEN) to over $700.00 bananas.

As other who bid on this Tape oven, I now know that this particular incubator is the ONLY type that will do the job and will bid on the next one that is listed on eBay. Money will be no option..

Will keep you all updated on this situation Doc @ the BAY

Charlie
Monday 5th February 2007
3:36 pm U.K.

betaman50@yahoo.com

Colin,

As far as I know there is no Sony beta (ntsc) that unloads the tape during rewind, perhaps this is a Pal only feature. I have a Sanyo made Sears beta from 1980 and it stays loaded during the rewind but this is the only Sanyo I've seen that does this. The NEC betas are kinda rare here in the states and since NEC I've heard doesn't deal with consumer products any longer you're pretty much on your own if you own one (like all Betas) I'am not familiar with any of the Pal models but I'am sure your correct in your evaluations . Thanks for the input. Charlie

stuart
Sunday 4th February 2007
6:17 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi Noel, the guy who worked on my slc9 said the can had been removed from the dc to dc in a previous repair and not replaced. He was unsure if that repair had been successful or not. As for removing it myself, I don t even know where in the vcr the converter is located. I am currently feeding the c9 through the av inputs from my freeview digibox and have a panasonic nvhs1000 connected also to freeview and analogue tv as well. Just a shame my c9 isn t fully working. The c9 gives better picture and pause frame than the panasonic!

colin99
Sunday 4th February 2007
2:41 pm U.K.

colin99@bigfoot.com

Regarding "Charlie 19th January 2007" posting:

Some Sanyo machines stayed laced during rewind, whereas some Sony machines could unlace. Just as with VHS some machines unlace fully, some unlace partially, and a few don't at all. It's not really a format thing, but rather how the individual machines were designed.

I agree that some Sony models do sometimes outperform Sanyo for the ultimate in picture quality, though given some worn tapes I occasionally find a Sanyo will give a better result than a Sony. Toshiba on the other hand were not sold in large quantities here in the UK. Any you find these days nearly always have worn heads. What did they make them from?! They were hopeless. Here in the UK, very few machines of other brands were sold (NEC, Aiwa etc), so few I've never even seen one.

If you like different machines, it's a shame that stateside you don't get to play with V2000 machines too. Now they are different. The first time I saw one, I thought it was not so much a different format as made on a different planet. But I've grown to almost like them now.

Colin.

Noel Higgins
Sunday 4th February 2007
12:39 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Stuart,

I can repair the DC/DC convertors. It is just a matter of whether you want to sent it this far (Australia) for a repair. (just the can module that is.) See betaheaven.com.

The SLO 420P would work OK in UK because it does not have a tuner and thats the main issue difference between the UK and other PAL TV countries.

regards Noel

Annette O'Donnell
Saturday 3rd February 2007
9:07 pm U.K.

aoswald@wctatel.net

I have a HVC-1000 camera and Recorder SL-3000, and ac power adaptor AC 300C and would like to sell.

stuart
Saturday 3rd February 2007
6:52 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi people, I just got into betamax late last year and it really is better than vhs! I bought two sony machines on ebay, a non working c9 (dead dc to dc and chewing tapes as well as uneven play speed, and refusal to stay in ff or rw) Sent this away to wolverhampton for repairs and now has perfect tape transport and play record, but was not possible to repair the dcd to dc. Second purchas was a fully working hf100. Thing is I have seen a sony SLO-420P on ebay in hong kong and this looks identical to the c9 except for the camera connector on the front. But...is it the same and will it work on uk pal? Any help appreciated. Cheers.

K.Lambert
Friday 2nd February 2007
11:18 pm U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

Hi ColinWell,it's funny you mention that as after your excellent 'Betamax the future' feature i had a lot of trouble in getting a copy in the shops , knowhere had them.WHSMITH and the like always had them monthly but strangely never seemed to stock it anymore , as did'nt the other places i knew usually had one.I found the mag very helpfull and interesting at times and will miss it too.Maybe the unavailability caused the collapse.Sad but probably true...............Kevin

colin99
Friday 2nd February 2007
8:46 pm U.K.

colin99@bigfoot.com

You may well know of the trade/hobby magazine called "Television and Consumer Electronics", formerly Practical Television or just Television magazine, which has been in publication for over 50 years. Over the years it contained heaps of useful info on servicing video equipment, and still had fault repair reports on Beta and V2000 models in recent editions.

Well I'm afraid to report that the magazine has collapsed. It had wilting sales recently and perhaps a few too many changes of editor and style. The last edition published was January 2007 (sold in December 2006), and there was no warning of impending doom at that point.

Television magazine will be sadly missed.

ivan
Thursday 1st February 2007
12:51 am U.K.

ivaclo1@hotmail.com

Hi my name is Ivan from Mexico and i,m looking fo the operating manual of the SL-5800 betamax NTSC VCR If anyone have this manual please let me know via email by cliking on my name on the list

Thank you

Seth
Monday 29th January 2007
7:05 pm U.K.

seth@babelfish.com

Yeah that would be a fair price. LOL!!

HAROLD KOSTER
Monday 29th January 2007
4:48 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

SHOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED, I HAVE FOR SALE, A REMOTE COMMANDER FOR THE SONY HF- SL950 VIDEO RECORDER. IT IS IN PERFECT WORKING ORDER ALBEIT, WELL USED. CONTACT ME BY EMAIL WITH AN OFFER SHOULD YOU BE RESPONSIVE. AS AN ALTERNATIVE, I WILL PLACE IT WITH E-BAY; BUT I THOUGHT THAT BEING A MEMBER OF THIS WORTHWHILE WEBSITE, I'D GIVE ITS MEMBERS FIRST SHOUT. I COULD BE WAY OFF LINE, BUT I RECKON £45/50 WOULD BE AROUND ITS VALUE.

K Reynolds
Thursday 25th January 2007
3:44 pm U.K.

Kkreynolds@aol.com

Re Sony C5 Take the bottom cover off and you ll see a huge pcb that covers the whole of the bottom of the machine. This board is roughly split 40/60 into two separate boards. Look at the presets on the smaller (servo) board and one will be labelled "PB LEVEL". I can t remember the number of it but as I said it s labelled so you ll soon find it. Tweek that one untill the get the audio output that you need. Regards Kevin

yellowtriumph
Thursday 25th January 2007
1:24 pm U.K.

spoabcdefghrt@nineteen85.tv

Roderick, Thanks for your input -I have cleaned the heads, all are nice and clean. I know you don't have one, but any thoughts where I might get circuit diagram? Kind regards, yt.

edwin lico inlayo
Thursday 25th January 2007
8:12 am U.K.

inlayoedwin@hotmail.com

newbie

edwin lico inlayo
Thursday 25th January 2007
8:11 am U.K.

inlayoedwin@hotmail.com

hello everybody, may i know how to manually clean video tapes and get rid of fungus.Do we need chemicals for this, water, alcohol or what.thanks, edwin

Roderick
Wednesday 24th January 2007
9:07 pm U.K.

rod62534er87ick@sta67ge8234safe5ty.com

Mark: Transferring Beta tapes is no different from any other videotape. Get yourself a decent Betamax machine, connect the 'Video out' (you may need a BNC->RCA adaptor) to the DVD recorder or computer capture card 'Video in', connect 'Audio out' to 'Audio in' of the same and off you go.Yellow: Can't help you with the schematics for a C5 but have you tried cleaning the audio head? With a drop in level of 6-12dB I would check the head first before adjusting anything. Audio heads can normally be found on the left hand side of the head-drum.

yellowtriumph
Wednesday 24th January 2007
2:38 pm U.K.

sport@1985.tv

Hi, I hope I haven't posted in the wrong part of the forum. I am undertaking a long term project to transfer my old Betamax collection to DVD - I'm using Pinnacle Studio 10 to input/edit/burn etc. My problem is that the audio level coming out of my Sony C5 is too low on the RCA audio line output. I'm sure this must be adjustable inside the machine but I do not have a circuit diagram. Can anyone help me out on this? can anyone tell me which pot to adjust (on which board) to increase the audio line level output (I need to increase it by 6-12dB, quite a fair bit!! I admit). I am a professional electronics engineer and am quite at home repairing video equipment so there is no need to fear I may be getting in over my head - I just don't have the info I need. Many thanks for any comments/instructions. Kind regards, yt.

markpenniman
Wednesday 24th January 2007
5:48 am U.K.

mpenniman@hotmail.com

Hello, My father gave me a project to transfer all his BETA tapes of my childhood to something more compatible like DVD or directly to my new IAC computer. Who know's how to trasnfer BETA tapes to either DVD's or to computer.

I have many tapesand a state of the art computer with lots of nifty video media Programs

who can help by telling me wha I need and how I need to proceed with this project?

thanks MARK PENNIMAN

Alfonso
Tuesday 23rd January 2007
1:49 am U.K.

alfonsol12@hotmail.com

i have an sl-3000 the image is very good, but i hav to maintain pressed the play key with my finger or it stops. if the power is off the play key remains pressed, but whn the power is on the key jumps to the stop position if i not maintain it pressed with my finger.

i also have an sl-s570 with the heads worn. where i can purchase this heads?

Jeff Taiji
Monday 22nd January 2007
4:48 am U.K.

jtaiji@hotmail.com

Hi Noel,Thanks for the information. I wish your home was closer to where I live. I would ask you to take a look.Thanks Again,Jeff

Noel Higgins
Monday 22nd January 2007
12:43 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

To Jeff with the Sony SL300 which wont unload sometimes. The NTSC machines are similar mechanically to the PAL machines I work on.

Capstan rollers do not cause that problem, they affect tape path in forward and review modes and cause creasing of the tapes. I am not familiar with that models age. If it is an early model with rubber belts then replace the belts associated with the cassette load and lacing actions. A later version with a nylon drive belt often has problems becuase they crack a nylon drive gear which then sometimes spins on its metal drive shaft if the friction is high. If so, it will have to be repaired or replaced.

regards Noel (betaheaven.com) in Australia

Matthew
Sunday 21st January 2007
9:38 am U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

Excellent, thanks for that. I'm starting to prefer to sanyo front loaders too. I got my amazing Sony C6 back tonight and hooked it back up to the 1972 Sansui AU 505 model amplifier and huge 1969 wharfedale speakers and it's back to it's bestJust a new drive belt and a general clean required.

There's a group of four beta/tv collection videos on you tube. I watched them the other dayhe has the NTSC model of my C6, a working SL HF100 hi fi and five or six other machines one video shows him loading an old tape in his SL 100 and playing it. The super mario bros super show is on that tape

User name is speedyc395

Bill
Saturday 20th January 2007
5:31 am U.K.

btrappiste@aol.com

Hi Ron, thanks for your response. It's all further confirmstion that Beta equipment was built to last, unlike many of today's string and plastic devices! However, there is one quibble I have, thought it's scarcely life-threatening. We live in an area EXTREMELY prone to power cuts, and I wish my SLHF950 didn't have its clock knocked out even by cuts lasting a matter of seconds!

Regards, Bill

Jeff Taiji
Saturday 20th January 2007
5:30 am U.K.

jtaiji@hotmail.com

Hello,I have a Sony Beta SL HF-300 and sometimes the machine will not eject. I'm guessing "pinch roller" is sticking. I cleaned it several time with alcahol. Where can I buy a new roller?Thanks,Jeff

Charlie
Friday 19th January 2007
5:15 pm U.K.

betaman50@yahoo.com

I to like the Sanyo Betas but not for the picture quality. I use a VCR-7200 (NTSC) Sanyo to rewind my tapes because they don't wrap the tape around the heads upon tape insertion.This makes them an excellent rewinder. As for picture quality I have to say the Sonys and the Toshibas have that area sewed up. My Toshiba VS-36 has a very nice and sharp picture and equals my HI-FI Sonys. The Sanyos on the other hand has a nice picture but not a super sharp picture like the Sonys and Toshibas. I do agree the Sanyos are very easy to maintain but so are the Toshibas . The Toshibas are in my opinion ,true Betas because they wrap the tape around the heads when loaded -- like Sony intended for Betas to do. On another note I have a NEC VC-65EU Beta ( the one that records in B1s ) and if your familiar with the Sony Beta under the hood layout you'd swear you were lookin at a Sony. The drum assembly,guides,etc are exactly like a Sony . I have a old MCM Electronics catalog that lists the same video heads for the NEC as the SL-HF-450 Sony and although I've never tried it I have no reason to believe they wouldn't work. The NEC beta has a nice picture but the Bll picture is just as clear as the B1s,I swear I can't tell the difference except the tape counter goes faster! I really like the NECs way of showing the payoff spool running by using the little mirror and light - pretty neat! I have a NEC -VHS recorder that has the mirror setup also. Someone left it at my shop around 10 years ago and never came back so since it was different I kept it. Although I'am partial to Betas I like all VCRs and the NEC betas and early VHS models are truly unique!

K.Lambert
Friday 19th January 2007
11:59 am U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

Yes it most certainly is.You just need a good Beta machine that prefferably has had a good thorough overhaul and a DVD recorder.You will also need connecting leads with a scart at one and and probably a BNC connector and phono connection ( for the Beta) at the other.They are all widely available.You place the connections on the Beta machine to OUTPUT and the switch on the scart of the DVD to INPUT, press PLAY on the BETA and RECORD on the DVD and away you go...................Hope this helps....................Kevin

keith
Thursday 18th January 2007
8:43 pm U.K.

swarbrickford@aol.com

i have several hundred old betamax tapes, how does one go about converting them to dvd. is it possible? thankyou

K.Lambert
Thursday 18th January 2007
3:54 pm U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

HiDefinetley not in a negative way.Like i stated before it's less of a strain on the video drum/mechanics/heads and your valuable tapes unlacing for the fast wind modes.I prefer it and that's another reason i only touch Sanyo machines.A lot prefer Sony because they state the pictures on their machines are slighly better ( sharper) and because of the over featured /complicated design.Judge for yourself.Sanyo are far easier to sort out/overhaul and parts are not as hard ( although maybe getting that way ) to get hold of.Enjoy....................Kevin (UK)

Matthew
Thursday 18th January 2007
1:29 am U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

Thanks for the infoI just hooked it up via RCA to my Panny DMR ES35 V DVD recorder/VHS combo and widescreen 100hz TV and loaded in my absolutely mint condition original of Seems Like Old Times from 1980's and the picture and sound is great. The owner has really cared for it over the years

The tape loading/eject path is fantastic also. Different from the C6 though. The C6 laces up the tape once only and playing starts almost immediately. However the sanyo laces and unlaces it every time you push play or stop. Would this have an effect on reliability of the components.

K.Lambert
Wednesday 17th January 2007
2:04 pm U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

HiI have a Sanyo m20 and it's a very fine machine.This particular model is farely rare too.(released in 1984)Make sure though the reel drive idlers/belt are in top shape as if not you will get your tapes chewed.Also the one way clutch under the left spool can get sticky(as on all Sanyo's) and this together with a dirty pinch roller will cause tape damage in reverse picture search.Other than that they are excellent.I offer this service/overhaul to a very high standard too so if your interested let me know.Remember too the Sanyo's (from the 5000) unlace so your tapes and video heads will last a lot longer.Congratulations on obtaining a fine machine.............................Kevin

Matthew Gibb
Wednesday 17th January 2007
12:07 pm U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

OOPS I meant M20's

Matthew Gibb
Wednesday 17th January 2007
12:04 pm U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

What are people's thoughts on sanyo MC20 machines (1983/84)I won one of them on ebay from a lady who lives 10 minutes from my placeOnly 50 bucks. I've never liked VTC 5000 top loaders but this is a front and hopefully will at least give my C6 a break for a while

Missed out on 2 SLHF100 's as well. Way too high for what I could afford at the time

Olive E Thomas
Wednesday 17th January 2007
10:01 am U.K.

┐live_e_th┐mas@yah┐┐.c┐m

The Swedish Chef was nice enuff to translate my page for Swedish Betafans...

http://www.tiffman.com/bork.cgi?url=http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/Olive_Garden_of_delights.html

Had him do this page as well. B┐rk, B┐rk, B┐rk!

http://www.tiffman.com/bork.cgi?url=http://www.chat-page.co.uk/betamax/

Ron Humphris
Sunday 14th January 2007
8:55 am U.K.

www.ronhump@nospamtpg.com.au

To Bill

Re; SLHF100

regarding the retention of the settings on your Sony would indicate that the lightning strike on your machine probably caused no further damage than to knock out the power source to your vcr.

I have recently rescued a SLHF100 that had not been powered up for between 10 - 15 years and like your's it still retained it's channel settings

regards

Ron

steve
Saturday 13th January 2007
7:11 pm U.K.

steve.rowley@publitek.com

Original Betamax films in original picture cases on Ebay. 97p each. Auction number: 280069982218

Bill
Saturday 13th January 2007
5:58 am U.K.

btrappiste@aol.com

Can I add a bit of cautionary to the above. My original power supply was terminated by a lightning strike, I had left it on to record while on holiday. My message is this - surge plugs aren't a luxury!

Bill
Saturday 13th January 2007
5:49 am U.K.

btrappiste@aol.com

I realise the debate over survival of Beta equipment is now past its sell-by date, but this might still be interesting to someone. My SLHF100 was off the road for the best part of six years pending finding a replacement power supply. When I was eventually able to boot it up everything worked, but the really amazing bit was that all the stored channels were still there! I'd be interested if anyone could tell me if this was freakish or to be expected!

Noel Higgins
Tuesday 9th January 2007
5:10 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Aivars,

Your C9 most likely has a fault on the SS11 board. Components age with time and the electrolytics dry out. You may be able to adjust RV109 to even up the Pulse width modulator waveform to the motor during playing a tape. The snow is from when the capstan loses lock and tracking control is lost at the same time. You will need an expert with a CRO and service manual to help you probably.

regards Noel

Dave
Tuesday 9th January 2007
2:25 am U.K.

Beta1@rogers.com

Here is rare beta on ebay a SLO-1800under the number 120017097846

Dave
Tuesday 9th January 2007
1:20 am U.K.

Beta1@rogers.com

Just ended on ebay is a SLO-323 I think person who got this could be in for a surprise, I believe that this model ONLY plays BI and not the other speeds. I have the SLO-325 wish does play all speedshhttp://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130064511497&rd=1&rd=1ere is the link

Aivars Migla
Monday 8th January 2007
2:22 pm U.K.

ami@inboxdot.lv

My SL-C9 works fine but sometimes appears wow and flutter on sound together with white horizontal lines (snow) on picture. Is it only a pinch roll problem (cleaning; repalcement) or it is in electronics?

Olive E Thomas
Monday 8th January 2007
2:11 am U.K.

┐live_e_th┐mas@yah┐┐.c┐m

There's an access panel on the bottom that hides the usual culprit bad belt. It's runs the capstan so it's most likely to be the failure.

Garry
Sunday 7th January 2007
9:16 pm U.K.

kojima_uk@yahoo.com

Thanks for the reply. Any idea where the belts are in this model? I'm new to all this I'm afraid. I've taken the case off and had a look around and everything seems fine but that's without knowing where to look.

Olive E Thomas
Sunday 7th January 2007
5:53 pm U.K.

┐live_e_th┐mas@yah┐┐.c┐m

The Toshiba likely needs a new drive belt.

Garry
Sunday 7th January 2007
3:28 pm U.K.

kojima_uk@yahoo.com

Hi Everyone, I bought a Betamax player this weekend but it's got a problem which I hope you can help me out with.It's a Toshiba V8700B and everything works fine except it won't play tapes. The guy I bought it from said that last time he used it the tapes started to "run slow" and now they won't play at all. Pressing play gets a response like it's about to turn the reel but it quickly cuts out.All the other play functions are fine; the tapes load perfectly, it FFs REWs etc and visual search even displays a picture. It's extremely clean on the inside and was recently serviced (well 1995).

Any ideas on the problem and possible solutions? Thanks!

HAROLD KOSTER
Sunday 7th January 2007
1:08 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

Spug,Try this man for repairs. Alfie Carnisotti, The Audio Centre, Croydon. Telephone: 020 8681 1964. He will charge you £100 for inspecting the machine; the amount to be deducted from the cost of the repair work should you proceed.I have experience with this man and he is very fair and knowledgeable.Good luck.HAROLD KOSTER

Noel Higgins
Sunday 7th January 2007
2:38 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Spug,

The problem is the drum motor. See http://www.palsite.com/pcat_hmotor.htmlThough on Palsite they say the hall effect sensor glue is the problem in my experience it is nearly always a faulty hall effect sensor. You can salvage old sensors from Toshiba drum motors ( V31 / V33 ) or sony capstan motors (late model front loaders) but you would have to add a bit of wire to each the hall effect components 4 legs and bend them appropriately to make them fit.

Good luck getting a UK repairer. regards Noel

Spug
Friday 5th January 2007
6:14 pm U.K.

oldjackets@blueyonder.co.uk

5 minutes after my posting, I turned my C9 on again and it played :-)) But then 5 minutes later it wouldn't play again :-(( I've noticed though that the tape does actually move when I press play, it's just the head that doesn't spin and it stops after 2 secs.

I can't find anywhere in the UK that repairs Betas now and it's a little far to send it to Noel in Australia!

Spug
Friday 5th January 2007
4:11 pm U.K.

oldjackets@blueyonder.co.uk

I have a Sony SL-C9 which has been working perfectly until a few days ago.

Now if I try to rewind it stops after 2 seconds, same with fast forward. If I try to play the drum does not rotate but power is getting to the drum motor as it moves a third of a rotation then just vibrates. The tape takes up but never actually starts moving in play.

I have limited technical ability but have checked the fuses on the SL-11 board as suggested elsewhere on this site and they're all ok.

Anybody seem this problem before and got any ideas on what it might be? Being a Yorskhireman I'm reluctant to spend a fortune replacing it for the sake of completing the transfer of a few old tapes. Any help would be appreciated.

AlfaKen
Friday 5th January 2007
1:54 pm U.K.

alfaken2003@yahoo.co.uk

Hi - I need some help with a C9 b ought on eBay. I've gone through the technical pages but the problem isn't there. The machine power up (the disply that is) but nothing else. I've looked inside and tried putting a tape in but absolutely nothing happens. No whirrs no clicks - no nothing???

Matthew
Friday 5th January 2007
8:38 am U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

I payed 50 bucks for it eight years ago and only replaced belts so it's had a great runThat kind of fault should not require much repairStill loads fine just won't play for more than two seconds

Matthew
Friday 5th January 2007
8:29 am U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

Howdy guys

I had my precious C6 playing good guys wear black pre recorded movie last night and once it had finished, rewound it 3/4 of the way and pressed ejectTape film got caught and so the machine re loaded it which meant that film got tied upI cut it and pushed eject and it came out.

Decided to put the best condition pre recorded original tape I have in there to see if the machine was ok.

Problem was two seconds after it loaded fine, it was like I had pressed stopThis has happened to me once before and I remember manually re winded the loading mechanism back into the right spot and it played fineI'm wondering if I could try this again, wind it around again and see if it clicks back into place

However I'm taking this as the perfect chance to send it off to our beloved pal noel and let him do a good service on it and fix any probs. The belts and capstan lock could be checked again too as that is a weakness of this machine. To me it seems like a small mechanical fault. So I'll see how I go tonight but if no good, will unplug it from my system which is full of rival formats, box it up and send it off to ya.

Noel - the power on/off button needs fixing. It's broken and locked onto ON.Hoping it's fixable or if not, a great excellent condition unit as spare parts for you and advice me of a reliable mono player to replace it with.(i'm only playing original tapes)

Ken
Thursday 4th January 2007
8:35 am U.K.

kmonkeybum@aol.com

Hi all, thanks for your time i looking for a manual for the sony SL-c35as PALplease email me @ kmonkeybum@aol.commany thanks

steve
Tuesday 2nd January 2007
7:44 pm U.K.

steve.rowley@publitek.com

There are 41 ex rental Beta films in original picture cases for sale on Ebay. Item number: 280066438276.

Alber
Tuesday 2nd January 2007
5:03 pm U.K.

alan.davison8@btinternet.com

Hi, appreciate your help if you can (anyone !)

I'm trying to fix up a Sony SL C30 for my grandfather so he can play his old Beta home movies to copy them to a Sony DVD recorder. We bought it on ebay and after about 2 days it stopped playing / ff / rw etc. All power etc is fine though. I now assume it is the drive pedulum 9from the comments on this site). did try some advice I got about "removing the excess glue on the Hall sensor Unit" but made no improvement. where can I get a replacement pedulum ?? Otherwise, a recommended repair centre in the UK appreciated.

Thanks

Noel Higgins
Monday 1st January 2007
9:29 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Brian,

Re the SLC20. It sounds like a capstan roller problem. If you look at the top of the tape as it goes between the capstan and capstan roller when you press play, you will probably see the tape ride up and even crease against or jump over the edge of the guide. This most likely is caused by the capstan roller not pressing the tape evenly against the capstan post which cause the tape to distort and move up or down. The machine loses the tracking pulse hence no picture and the sound. (because the tape sides are not aligned with the tracking ans audio heads.) Replacement of the roller is usually necessary though sometimes removing assembly and cleaning the roller can help. It depends how worn and or perished the rubber roller is. The bearings can also be worn which is fixed only by replacement of that assembly.

regards Noel

Dave
Sunday 31st December 2006
1:47 pm U.K.

beta1@rogers.com

To the above person try different video cables , I find hard to believe they both have the same problems or try direct with a cable tv cable and see what happens, I know thats not the best way to do it, its just trail & errorDave

tim filburn
Saturday 30th December 2006
11:21 pm U.K.

timothy.filburn@cox.net

HI FOLKS-I HAVE A SONY SL-HFR70 AND A SONY SL-560 AND OVER 350 MOVIES.ALL HAVE BEEN IN STORAGE FOR 11 YEARS. RECENTLY I CONNECTED EITHER BETA TO A TV AND GET "VERTICAL" BLACK AND GRAY LINES.I GET AUDIO BUT EVEN IF I RECORD [WITH A NEW TAPE] SYMPTOMS ARE THE SAME. I ATTEMPTED TO CLEAN HEADS ON BOTH MACHINES,NO CHANGE--ARE BOTH MY MACHINES IN NEED OF NEW HEADS? ANY TIPS ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED. TIM IN SAN DIEGO CA.

Brian Samples
Saturday 30th December 2006
6:44 am U.K.

devzin98@yahoo.com

Hi. I have a Sony Betamax SL-20. I've had this unit for roughly 20 years without a problem. Recently, though, I find that with any tape I pop in, the following happens:

1) For about 5-10 seconds, the video/audio will play fine.2) After that time, noise "bands" will appear (as if bad tracking).3) Finally, both picture and audio fade down, and the screen turns black with no audio. 4) If I shuttle FF or rewind, picture/audio will come back for another 5 seconds, and then fade out again.

I consider myself pretty technically talented, so I have no problem cracking open the machine to try and repair this problem myself. Please let me know if you can identify the problem, and how I would go about repairing it.

Thanks so much in advance.

-Brian

noel higgins
Friday 29th December 2006
9:14 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Mark,

I should be able to help you with those problems. At least I am fairly close. Check out http://www.betaheaven.com/

regards Noel

Mark Perry
Friday 29th December 2006
1:23 am U.K.

winchester_7@hotmail.com

i've got a sl-c6 and a slhf100as with problems

the SL-C6 has a picture bounce about every 3 seconds. it's as if it he drums stops and restarts ie bioung...bioung...bioung, and during this the picture goes to b&w then returns. I'm not sure if it's the "Poor capstan lock" fault. i tried the c7 and c8 replacements to no effect and the "Drum speed variations" fault withthe resisitors without effect. i haven't checked the Drum or Capstan IC's for faults yet. the Video Head has just been replaced for wear and the possible cause. i've also got the Srevice Manual.

The SL-HF100 had a worn head which i finally found a replacement (pure luck!!!).One or two the LED Meters has gone out posibbly the far left Right Channel segments if i remember.Then one night the tuner just died like an AV picture, the VCR still powers up, and the panel which allows you to tune the channels the LED which inicates to you the channel (and bandwith) you're tuned is is 'tuned in' for every 'tuned' channel.I've also got a problem with one of the tape path loading mechanism, any modes it starts for one second then stops. a newly designed pinch roller by Sony i had do transfer to the original arm because of an alteration to where the spring sits in a groove is now absent.I don't have a service manual.

I'm in Hobart, Tasmania

any help would be appreciated.

thanks.

Idlerbiker
Wednesday 27th December 2006
1:32 pm U.K.

idlerbiker@mac.com

I have a SL-8000, and I think the S101 switch is faulty.

Where is the S101 switch?

K.Lambert
Saturday 23rd December 2006
6:37 pm U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ONE AND ALL!!!Get those Betas utilised for the xmas films e.t.c it's what they're best at....................Kevin

Aivars Migla
Friday 22nd December 2006
1:22 pm U.K.

ami@inboxdot.lv

Merry Christmas and happy New Year for everyone in Beta land! (My correct address is without 'dot'.)

Noel Higgins
Thursday 21st December 2006
9:16 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Hello all,

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to the "Palsite crew" and many thanks to the sponsors.

Just thought I would let you know there are some SLHF950 owners manuals going on eBay but they are the multi-language versions and not in English.

The first is Sony SL-HF950 Beta VCR manual in German/Swedish/Italian at http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180065745667&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=008

The second is Sony SL-HF950 Beta VCR, manual in French/Spanish/Dutch at http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180065747086&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=008

cheers - Noel

Homer
Tuesday 19th December 2006
10:23 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

Harold, the inability to play back recent recordings can be a symptom of a tired control head recording a weak signal. This would be easier to troubleshoot if the HF100 had a real time counter as it would either advance erratically or not at all. You may otherwise confirm my theory by trying modes that don't use the control track such as betascan or pause, where you should see a fairly decent picture.

HAROLD KOSTER
Sunday 17th December 2006
1:24 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

Noel,Thanks for your reply. It would seem that there is merit to you diagnosis, since the first intimation I had of the fault, was the recording 'sticking' for a second or two, and then continuing to record on.I then ran a cleaning tape for 10 seconds in record mode. It was after this that the playback failed. I did wonder whether I had damaged the heads, but since I can play back previously recorded tapes perfectly, I am at a loss.The compliments of the season to you and again, my thanks.Kind regards, HAROLD

Noel Higgins
Sunday 17th December 2006
9:33 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Harold,

Regarding your question about the SLHF100UB, the same video heads are used for record and playback. As far as what the problem might be in record, you would need to trace the signal path with an oscilloscope while recording to find what is happening to the record signal.

The line in connectors sometime develop dry joints around the connector pins due to mechanical action.

regards Noel

K.Lambert
Friday 15th December 2006
11:15 am U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

Ron and LadyM:Well, i've serviced plenty of Sanyo 5000's and have never come across 'sticky motor'.They do slow down if contaminated with debris from the brushes and can fail to pull the tape in on stop ( for which there is a Sanyo mod to over come this ), if getting on a bit.There is also the chance you have a 'dead spot' where the wiring inside the motor has burnt out and if the motor stops at this point it will not start unless you move it by hand.I have only ever encountered this twice.From what LadyM is describing it could also be a worn ,dry belt or the older upper idler making contact with the cassette door and not engaging play.I would think the 'noise' she's hearing is the motor spinning and the belt or idler not engaging due to both of them being old or worn.This is USUALLY the case and easily remedeed with new replacements.I have contacted her by E-Mail to offer my assistance but have yet to hear back.These machines are getting on now and i've found quite a few with failing capacitors in the power supply effecting the clock,tuner and in one case the whole vcr.Good luck LadyM

Ron Humphris
Friday 15th December 2006
7:23 am U.K.

www.ronhump@nospamtpg.com.au

To Ladymadonn1

Re: VTC5000 - sounds to me as if you have a sticking reel motor [ providing all belts/tyres are in good condition]. The reel motor really needs replacing - however it's sometimes possible to coax more usage from the machine by loading & unloading a tape a few times & switching the machine on & off a few times until the reel motor kicks in - this is only a short term way of getting the vcr to function and will not remedy the problem which won't get any better until the reel motor is replaced.

I've had several 5000's with this problem & reel motor replacement is the only remedy hope this helps you out

regards

Ron

Homer
Tuesday 12th December 2006
11:58 pm U.K.

doh@hotmail.com

boby, I asked a similar question months ago but never got an answer. I wanted to know about a minimal operation requirement in order to keep a machine going for the longest time possible while avoiding problems arising from long term storage. I would say rubber parts an chemical capacitors may dry but this would also happen while in use. I sure would like to know more.

HAROLD KOSTER
Tuesday 12th December 2006
4:55 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

I have acquired a Sony Betamax SL 100 UB. It plays tapes back perfectly but will not record.All I get is a screen full of flashing lines across it. Does anyone know whether there is a separate recording head when in record mode; to that of the playback head when in playback mode? In other words, are there two separate heads?

ladymadonn1
Monday 11th December 2006
2:18 pm U.K.

nikkihaworth@aol.com

Help!!I have a betamax sanyo VTC5000, im trying to play tapes, but the tapes will not play, when the tape plays it makes a funny noise, then stops, is it anything serious, can it be mended quickly, im trying to play/convert betamax to dvd for xmas for friends. thanks

Tom
Sunday 10th December 2006
8:38 pm U.K.

t_bickle78@hotmail.co.uk

Hi,

I've got a Sony C9, Sony C6 and a Sanyo 5150 currently stored in my loft in need of a good home. They all worked the last time I had them down but the heads on the C6 are either worn or need a good clean.

Didn't want to put them in the loft but wife and kids won the battle for space in our house! Due to the storage in the loft I won't guarantee any of the players and they come with over a hundred pre recorded films and probably the same amount of blanks so I'd like to see them go to someone expanding their collection and using the players for spares if they no longer work. If you're interested I'll sell the lot for £50 but downside is you would have to collect them from Gravesend, Kent and you'll need a lot of space in your car!

Let me know if you're interested!

boby
Saturday 9th December 2006
5:16 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Keep Beta warm;

Has anyone found a faulty condition after a long time from storage of Beta Machine......(?)

Goran
Saturday 9th December 2006
2:13 pm U.K.

sail@tele2.se

Hi, just found this page. I have a SONY SL-7C with a defect video head. One of the two coils are defect. Anyone having a spare coil? I will transfer my old betamax-videos to DVD and need to repair my old Sony. Any advise where to get spares to a resonable price?

best regardsGoranSweden

Alan Morton
Saturday 9th December 2006
12:26 am U.K.

adm222@yahoo.com

I have a Snayo NTSC 4300 that had belonged to my parents that is no longer working. My repair guy did a once over and could not spot anything obvious that was wrong and I did not figure it worth a lot of money to invest in repairing. I plan on having it tossed in the bin but if there is someone who wants it they can have it gratis, it is located in Central IL so you will either have to arrange to pick it up or pay for having it shipped to you. I f I hear nothing it will get tossed, the owneres manual for it is stall around as I beleive is the wired remote.

Craig
Thursday 7th December 2006
10:00 am U.K.

kreigas@hotmail.com

Doctor 1024 (396) of Vermont: Eagerly anticipating your next edifying instalment of hot Betamax repair tips. You really do remind me of someone else...Hmmm.No. 1 Mad Doc fan.

Andrew
Wednesday 6th December 2006
11:06 pm U.K.

yt1303@gmail.com

Excellent Condition SL-HF950 for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140061839372&rd=1&rd=1

Andrew
Wednesday 6th December 2006
11:06 pm U.K.

yt1303@gmail.com

Excellent condition SL-HF950 for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140061839372&rd=1&rd=1

steve
Wednesday 6th December 2006
7:29 pm U.K.

steve.rowley@publitek.com

Hi,

There is a collection of 41 Betamax ex rental films in original cases for sale on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280057853855

Olive E Thomas
Wednesday 6th December 2006
3:01 am U.K.

ˇlive_e_thomas@yah°°.c°m

Advert for Sanyo Betacorder...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aftqNG5u0rc

Thomas B. Frankel
Tuesday 5th December 2006
9:13 pm U.K.

tbf@cox.net

I have hundreds of 750 tapes and 8 or 9 sony Beta machines from the early models with wired remote (3) to the latest models of 2002 which I no longer use. I was going to donate to charity but I feel they would be wasted. Any suggestions on some who would take them and use them would be appreciated. I do not want to go through the hassle and cost of shipping many boxes. All machines work great.

Matthew
Tuesday 5th December 2006
2:09 pm U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

Are these tapes pre recorded original ones

Mavis Frewin
Tuesday 5th December 2006
11:12 am U.K.

m.frewin@corbypress.com

I have a large number of betamax tapes and wish to dispose of quicky at a fair price. Some in origianl packing and never used. I also have 3 betamax players. I live in Hampshire, england and would be willing to deliver a resonable distance. I welcome interst and any help or advise.

ljones
Tuesday 5th December 2006
12:50 am U.K.

slothpuck@gmail.com

Where to get a second hand Betamax machine from?------------------------------------------------

Hello all, apologies if this message dosen't appear correctly, but I was wondering if anyone here could help me out. I am looking to buy just one :) betamax VCR, nothing special or fancy just a plain bog-standard beta machine. I did have one about 4 or 5 years ago in the past but made the mistake of taking it to the tip once it broke down x.x . I understand that there are sometimes some for sale on ebay, but some on ebay tend to be greedy and often mark their sale with words like "rare" and ask lots of money of which I am very wary about paying out. Can anyone suggest any other lines of help?

Thanks

ljones

Noel Higgins
Monday 4th December 2006
10:37 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Owners manuals for the Sony SL-HF950 listed on eBay.

Two versions, the German/Swedish/Italian

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180059812587&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=008

and the French/Spanish/Dutch.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180059815654&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:AU:31

regards Noel

lmelling
Sunday 3rd December 2006
9:07 pm U.K.

lesmels@lmelling1.wanadoo.co.uk

hi , can anyone help source a user manual for the famed slhf950, would greatly appreciate your help. by the way , great site , keep the hints & tips flowing

Noel Higgins
Sunday 3rd December 2006
7:29 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tgp.com.au

Valle,

That picture stability problem you spoke of in an earlier post is usually due to aging capacitors in the capstan servo and drum servo board underneath the base of the Sony SLC7. It is also a problem in the C5 and C6 models. The capacitors dry out over time and lose capacity and also get high ESR or "series resistance".

The ones to replace are the light blue electrolytics. Make sure you get the polarity right on the replacements. I have covered this before in earlier chatpage posts. You may also need to reset the drum servo control potentiometer and the capstan servo control potentiometer because the capacors can vary in their value due to manufacturing tolerences.

regards Noel

Valle
Saturday 2nd December 2006
1:01 pm U.K.

mayday948@hotmail.com

Small solution with another of my 4 pieces of C7 -E

Power switch on..everthing was "green" eject worked aswell..play button indicated that it works..BUT! nothing happend..it didnt "pull out the tape".....it was shown that the whole sistem was STUCK..all it needed was a little help "around" with the finger first time..and som small doze of lubrication on some small wheels in the right upper corner....works pefect now.

Craig
Saturday 2nd December 2006
10:18 am U.K.

kreigas@hotmail.com

lan C: There's a PAL version of a Gary Numan video called Micromusic on Beta format, in apparent xlnt condition, on ebay in the UK. It goes for 2hr. (ebay No.110062480618). You have 4 and half days to bid from this posting- good luck!Regards, Craig.

Olive E Thomas
Saturday 2nd December 2006
6:01 am U.K.

ˇlive_e_thomas@yah°°.c°m

To Ian C. Just do an eBay search for Gary Numan and you should get something. Years ago this netowrk called "MTV" (Music Television) ran these things called music videos (and ran them 24/7 no less - a novel concept someone ought to bring back) and in the 1990s had this show called "Amp" that I used to Betamax religiously. Was able to get a recording of "Cars" on one tape.

Roderick
Saturday 2nd December 2006
12:41 am U.K.

rod347erick872@stage692saf982ty.com

Hi Valle, welcome to the forum and don't worry, this site is exactly for asking that sort of questions!

I would suggest that you start with a serious clean of the whole tape path with Q-tips and surgical alcohol. Quite often this happens when a build-up of gunk over the years causes friction which makes the tape vibrate. If you hear a light squeel when you play a tape that is definately the problem. Make sure that all the posts are nice and clean without any black/brown residue.

If you play a lot of older tapes, have a look at the link to tape baking below. Despite someone taking the p*ss, it does really work. Many of the tapes fromm the late 1970's - early 1980's have this problem due to the way the emulsion was manufactured.

Let us know how you go.

Valle
Friday 1st December 2006
4:16 pm U.K.

mayday948@hotmail.com

Hello!

I dont know if its forbidden to ask for some help right here! If so please erase this Post.

Im looking to solve a problem on my Sony C7 -E

Picture qvalite seems perfekt,,BUT! its shaking,the whole picture.

Couldnt find this problem descried anywhere.

I hope anyone could jus tell me whats wrong.

Greetings from Sweden!

Valle

Ian C
Friday 1st December 2006
1:23 pm U.K.

iculver@hotmail.co.uk

Hello ,I'm after any Gary Numan videos on any format, Betamax / V2000 / VHS / Laserdisc / VHD / CED etc. Surely there must be some out there somewhere. If anyone can help please contact me :- iculver@hotmail.co.uk.Many thanks.

Valle
Friday 1st December 2006
12:11 pm U.K.

mayday948@hotmail.com

Hi Guys!

Just came across this side..think its great!!!

Looking for a place to describe one of my problems with my C7 -E Beta!

Thankfull f÷r tips

Best/Valle /Sweden

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