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Alber
Sunday 13th January 2008
1:01 pm U.K.

alan.davison8@btinternet.com

40 Sony blank tapes

I have about 40 blank sony tapes (all used)and after them going to a good home. If anyone is interested for a nominal fee, please contact me (alan.davison8@btinternet.com)

Collection from either Manchester area or Reading area is possible.

Boby
Saturday 12th January 2008
4:24 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

This C9 looks gorgeous.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sony-SL-C9-Betamax-cw-remote-manual-SUPERB-condition_W0QQitemZ130187895614QQihZ003QQcategoryZ39999QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Looks like the seller know how to take care of Betamax...indeed.

stuart
Saturday 12th January 2008
7:53 am U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

hehe Noel. :) I have seen both of these c9s and indeed have already bid on the one without the cameras. This is the one I am going for from the two. As to my location in the uk, I am in Northamptonshire, 70m north of London. I also have two c9s on ebay for sale, one for spares (boards only, no heads, capstan, pinch roller, power supply or loading mechanism) and another fully repaired one with remote and manual.

Noel Higgins
Saturday 12th January 2008
5:37 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Stuart,

Another SLC9UB See http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180203706783&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:1123

cheers Noel

Noel Higgins
Saturday 12th January 2008
4:10 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Stuart,

Want another Sony SLC9UB /E? for bits or to fix?

See http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sony-Betamax-SL-C9UB_W0QQitemZ280190363713QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3318QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122

cheders Noel

Noel Higgins
Friday 11th January 2008
10:12 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Stuart,

I have a few SLHF950 remotes but postage would be an issue. Actually, we are travelling to the UK for a wedding late April - you never know- what part of UK are you in?

cheers Noel

Noel Higgins
Friday 11th January 2008
10:12 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Stuart,

I have a few SLHF950 remotes but postage would be an isue. Actually, we are travelling to the UK for a wedding late April - you never know- what part of UK are you in?

cheers Noel

stuart
Friday 11th January 2008
9:17 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Well, I have just tried my 950 which I replaced the t901 on yesterday, and it now records in colour, everytime through the av inputs. I did blow away some dust from the area of the av inputs when I had the ta37 board up during its repair so maybe it was just dust causing this problem of black and white recording? So now have two fuly operational 950s :) I need a remote control for one of them though, so if anyone has one...give me a shout here :)

Boby
Friday 11th January 2008
4:20 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

I'd just spotted so many HF950 machine in my area, unfortunately some belong to someone and some not for sale(LOL). -_-

K .Lambert
Friday 11th January 2008
1:54 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Noel:Don't worry my friend i hav'nt given up on it yet.I will probably sell it on though if i get it A1..................Kevin

Noel Higgins
Friday 11th January 2008
4:47 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Stuart,

Great work, I am pleased you managed it so easily. Maybe I was just a little too rough and ready with mine. Then again I am a firm believer in Murphy's law and tend to act accordingly in my preparations.

Kevin, Don't throw away that F30, the most common problems they have are load mechanism breaking, bad heads, drum motor failure followed buy power supply issues. The control issues probably wont be present on any other machine you come across.

cheers Noel

stuart
Thursday 10th January 2008
9:24 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Yes Kevin, it feels good! I still have another fault to fix on this 950 though, for some reason it will record in colour through av first time, but stop recording and start again, and it is then black and white until machine is powered off then back on again. rf recording is not affected and is colour every time. Any ideas as to cause anyone?

K .Lambert
Thursday 10th January 2008
9:08 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Stuart:Welcome to your 'graduation day' of the wonderful world of Betamax vcr repair :)If i can't get this SLF30 to work that i've aquired then i think i have a candidate for it's useage...maybe..............?Well done again...............Kevin

stuart
Thursday 10th January 2008
8:38 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hello Noel, I have to thank you for pointing me towards f30s as having thebtransformer needed to fix 950s with failed t901. My soldering iron and solder sucker arrived today, and I have already removed the transformer required from my donor f30, removed the faulty one from my 950, and fitted the replacement into the 950. I am happy to say my 950 now erases liner audio, and I am even happier as this is the first time I have EVER attempted removal of components from a board, and re mounting them.Needless to say for me the value of non working f30s on ebay has increased! Thankyou Noel, for all your help!

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 9th January 2008
9:59 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Hi guys - plenty of questions.

Boby,

I don't know what mechanism causes failure of the hall effect sensor but I suspect contamination or corrosion through moisture travelling up the devices legs maybe because of the glue coating. It might be accelerated by the amount of air that passes over the device because of the disc spinning. The same hall effect sensors are used in other applications and locations and seem not to be affected at all. Heating does not help.

Matthew,

Moisture from humid conditions can cause the tape to stick to the heads. If you are using an evaporative cooler in your house that could accentuate the problem - only a guess. When the machines are continuously powered up there is enough heat generated so that this does not happen. If this is the case, a compromise might be to turn the machine on an hour before you are going to use it. You could also comfirm this I believe by turning it on and heating the head area with the flap open using a hair dryer for 30 seconds to a minute - that should be enough to dry out the surface. Lots of the early machines had dew sensors so it must be an issue. I have had it happen only once or twice but I dont live in a humid environment.

Stuart,

Good luck. Just be careful not to overheat the board tracks or the component legs too much. Remember they are soldered to the transformer wires and also overheating may break the glue bond of the pins to the transformer base. I have used a heat gun on the donor board (the F30 in your case) to give even temp on all the pins but it kills the board. On the machine you are fitting the transformer to, it does not matter if pins break out when your using a normal soldering iron on each pin. Hope that's not too confusing. You seem pretty busy fixing machines yourself these days.

cheers Noel(betaheaven.com)

stuart
Tuesday 8th January 2008
7:49 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi Noel, I have now got an f30 with duff heads and intend to use the transformer for the full erase head to use in my 950 with faulty t901. I have ordered a fine tip soldering iron and electric solder sucker from maplin.co.uk to enable me to remove the components and re assemble. Will let you know how it goes.

Matthew Gibb
Tuesday 8th January 2008
9:28 am U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

Noel : Is it best to leave the power on to the beta machines or unplug all together when not usingI am finding that with the Sanyo M10 and also on a 1991 Sharp 2 head VCR that if it's not plugged in and powered up all the time, they would have trouble lacing up and playing the tapes

I had been at summernats in ACT for the past week and everything got switched offupon getting back yesterday everything was powered back up and I put a tape in the M10 and when I pushed the play button, it was slow to lace it up and play. the noise of the machine doing that sounded like slow motion.

Rewinding was a struggle. So I took the tape out and let it sit for three hoursReinserted the tape and it did all operations normally again.

Jack Gordon
Monday 7th January 2008
7:53 pm U.K.

jacwon@verizon.net

I have a Sanyo VTC9100A Beta Max that has always work good, Just recently the tape will not advance & makes clicking noise, probaly the belts. I would like to sell the unit as it would be a shame to dispose it as the unit is a beautiful machine. I have the original instructions & wired remote, about 20 tapes, some are movies & others are recorded tapes, & head cleaner tape. I have no idea of its value, but if anyone is intersted in it give me a shout on jacwon@verizon.net

Boby
Monday 7th January 2008
5:43 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Noel;Do you think there's a special treatment e.g (heat treatment) to overcome this H.E censors.

Sometimes this will help on other component but not last very long.

Cheers,Boby.

Noel Higgins
Monday 7th January 2008
8:16 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Richard,

Yes, jittering is the typical symptom of a faulty head drum motor. Replacing the hall effect sensor generally fixes that but new sensors are not available which is why you need to source second hand units.

cheers Noel

Richard
Sunday 6th January 2008
7:51 pm U.K.

rwsleeman@btinternet.com

Re Noel)The F30 has been to a repair shop in the past year and he has tried to repair the Hall effect thingy, but all the motor does when put into any tape function is just judder from side to side (like it is being caught in a magnetic field).Thanks to everyone who has replied!!!!Richard.

Matthew
Sunday 6th January 2008
4:55 pm U.K.

seshomaru2004@mail.com

Hi all! Sorry for my english but i'm italian ^^. I have a betamax SL-C40ES and it still work great. Now i have a little problem, i want to see some film, but i have lost my manual and i don't know how to connect cable and set my tv...i tryed to do this, but i can't see anything, sound neither. Can one of you help me please? maybe send me a email with manual or tell me what do for see my tape! thank you all very much!

Boby
Sunday 6th January 2008
3:57 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Hi'

I see...that 6 pin DIN female socket usually found in an older version of Betamach. Just in case if you know the output pin designation you can build that AV-out to RCA so you will have more outputs. ( similar to SCART to RCA in HF950 interconnect)

Hope this tip will help.

Regards,Boby.

stuart
Sunday 6th January 2008
11:37 am U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Andrew, the 6 pin din socket on the back of my hf100ub and your as version is for connecting a tv set. This connection carries both audio and video information but you wont find any tv set today with this connection. Certainly no dvd recorder has it.

Andrew
Sunday 6th January 2008
9:10 am U.K.

pinchen@cyberone.com.au

Thanks Boby, but I'm still confused as to the use of the 6 pin socket at the back that says AV. I know that one of the video outputs is a BNC type connector, are you saying this is the only video output this machine has?

Boby
Sunday 6th January 2008
6:51 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Andrew,

The Audio connector is the same with VHS clone. The BETAMAX-Video connector is different with HOME-VHS. You have to purchase a BNC to RCA-converter connector for your Betamax video out plug to you DVD-Recorder.

Here's the info from the famous Maplin- UK

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=1593&doy=6m1

There are plenty of those type don't get mixed-up.

(some of PRO-VHS editing machine also have BNC conn)

Happy transferring

Greets,Boby

Andrew
Sunday 6th January 2008
5:07 am U.K.

pinchen@cyberone.com.au

I have recently "inhereted" a SONY SL-100HF AS machine and would like to know what the AV socket on the back is for. Is it like the SVHS ouput? I want to transfer some Betamax tapes to DVD and would like to maintain the best video and audio quality possible.

Thanks

Boby
Saturday 5th January 2008
11:46 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Dear Sir Harlord

I just know that you're a senior Citizen, well I'll provide all method of shipping thru the email you'd requested. Thank you for your kind attention.

Best Regards,Boby.

colin judd
Saturday 5th January 2008
11:20 am U.K.

colinjudd@iprimus.com.au

Ahappy [beta] new year to all you Betaphiles

stuart
Saturday 5th January 2008
9:49 am U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi, an update on my 2nd hf100, and would like to know what people think to this..It seems to work better(ie playback its own recordings) when it has been on for a while. Sometimes its perfect, sometimes the screen will go blank after a few seconds of trying to lock on to the recording. Definitely better when warm though.I noticed some dirt (cigarette pollution) on the full erase head which I cleaned and I also cleaned the ace assembly heads.Also another repair I had to do was resolder the av left audio in as there was a dry joint here.What do people think to the playback of own recordings issue? I dont think its a tape path issue as this would not change weather hot or cold. Recording level in the head amp can?

Boby
Saturday 5th January 2008
2:29 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Hi Betafellas;

Besides a carbon paste there's also a conductor PEN. (a pen that writes a gold metal marks on a PCB) good for repairing broken tracks.

The price would be very high.

Cheers,Boby.

Noel Higgins
Friday 4th January 2008
10:31 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Kevin,

Sharing knowledge is much more rewarding than keeping it to yourself. I thought more people knew about those fixes but your right, a lot of remotes have been binned.Only about one in ten machines come with their original remote.

Harold,

Thanks and best wishes for the New year to you also. Changing the HiFi heads is a bit tricky because you have to be careful to align the HiFi head pickup coils correctly or at least not upset the alignment as you take apart the assembly. Needs an experienced serviceman with the right centering jig ideally. The spacer tools to reset the gap are included with each new head plus some fitting instructions.

cheers Noel (betaheaven.com)

K .Lambert
Friday 4th January 2008
9:16 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Guys:Well,i've just tried Noels advice for the aluminium foil on the rear of the faulty remote control pads ( attached with strong glue) and the three of them now work PERFECTLY in all areas.What an amazinginlgy simple but effective idea.I hate to think how many remotes have been thrown away because of that issue.Thanks again Noel!!!!!!!!!!!..............................Kevin

Charlie
Friday 4th January 2008
7:50 pm U.K.

betaman@yahoo.com

Hi everyone, Noel was right on the mark about the carbon paste being used on the remote control pads to restore functions. I've used this material a couple time and it works real well.I buy it here in the states at Studio Sound Electronics. The only problem is the cost. For a little 2 part container about the size of a persons thumb it's $20.00 and must be used within 24 hours after mixing the two parts together.I repaired a couple beta remotes with it and they both work perfect. Charlie

Boby
Friday 4th January 2008
2:48 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Hello Harlord;

I did sent you email, it's included attached picture of the goods,maybe you missed it(unread).

OK, I'll send again

THX,best,Boby.

Harold Koster
Friday 4th January 2008
12:13 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

Hi Noel,Thanks for that piece of information.A very Happy New Year to you.

Regards, HAROLD

Harold Koster
Friday 4th January 2008
12:09 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

BobyPlease quote me for ONE repeat ONE HF150, which you state, is compatible in the HF100. What I wish to know is the cost INCLUDING POSTAGE to the UK.Harold

Dave Clark
Friday 4th January 2008
10:54 am U.K.

topdog4it@hotmail.com

Hello Everybody, I'm New to all this I have just moved and got my old Sony Betamax tapes out and there is load that I want to watch but my poor old sony SL HF-100 UB has the transport problem so need to raze the the wheels and although it tells you how on this great site I need a few pictures to show me how, also where to get the 0.02m washers etc hope someone can help..RegardsDave

Boby
Friday 4th January 2008
8:04 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Good to know that you publish the tricks of HF100 's head. We appreciate for all your valuable help on this page.

I'm glad that I'd sold PAL&NTSC disk assy accross all continent. Wish I have more in stock (LOL)

Keep Betamax alive!

Cheers,Boby.

Noel Higgins
Friday 4th January 2008
4:01 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Kevin,

No problems. I believe the original surface coating is sort of carbon impregnated. I have heard of some people using a paste with carbon in it or even lead pencil but I dont know how effective those measures are. I think the pads work by capacitive effect but it could be resistive coupling. That link did not come up as normal but it's the technical page for the F30 on Palsite.

cheers Noel

cheers Noel

K .Lambert
Friday 4th January 2008
12:11 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi NoelWhat can i say but thank YOU this time.Indeed i will try the aluminium foil on the rubber pads.So they must have some kind of chemical on them when made that gets destroyed by fizzy drinks?I will also look on the site you recommended.Indeed i have a suspicion capacitors in the PSU are causing my problems or thereabouts.I'll keep everyone posted with my findings.A million thanks again..................Kevin

Noel Higgins
Friday 4th January 2008
12:06 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Harold,

The HF100 heads are no longer available from Sony. The HF150 heads will work in a HF100 but you have to remove the extra magnet that is fitted on the HF150. Comparison with the old HF100 head will tell you which one. Boby has new original Sony HF150 heads as he has indicated.

cheers Noel

Noel Higgins
Friday 4th January 2008
12:01 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Richard, (and for general repairer information)

If you pull the drum motor out of the F30, you can replace the hall effect sensor and there is a 95% chance that will fix it. You can get spares out of scap capstan motor boards from the front load sony models (other than the C6 ) or the reel motor boards of SLC9s. They are also in Toshiba capstan motors V31 model and probably others. The spares hall effect sensors might need their legs extended but have have fixed about 15 this way.

cheers Noel (betaheaven.com - Australia)

Noel Higgins
Thursday 3rd January 2008
11:26 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Kevin,

Regarding the Sony F30, you can getsome good hints from http://www.palsite.com/slf30tech.html but I have to say, I have a number of them with control faults which I think are switch problems or adjustments that I have not sorted out yet if ever. The micro has legs on four side and is one I would not attempt replacement of.

The remote controls pad issue failure is common. They either seem to wear out or are killed by drink spills especially coke. If you cut small squares of aluminium foil and glue those to the pad surfaces they work perfectly. I use superglue but contact adhesive might work better if is applied in a thin enough layer to the pad. Remeber to use a cleaner (metholated spirits) over the circuit board to remove any drink residue and stop the pads sticking.

I built up a receiver tester which flashes an led to show button function. A working machine will work as well but I built the tester because I was looking at the pulses and decoding them for a gokart timer application and it came in handy for this also.

cheers Noel

stuart
Thursday 3rd January 2008
9:46 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Kevin, I had this power on issue on an slf30 also last year. My guess is that it is power supply related as it seemed to power on correctly when cold and had less chance of powering up properly when warm, however the playback and recording was perfect. Maybe your picture problems are also psu related? But just guessing.

K .Lambert
Thursday 3rd January 2008
5:42 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Guys:Well it's my turn to be asking questions/advise for a change :)I have a Sony SLHF30UB that comes on from the mains most times but occasionally ,when plugging it in the head drum starts up the on/standby light illuminates, but no clock or ANY function.Then after some time it's all OK again any ideas/.Also the picture only comes from RF and is black and white and scewed to one side.I am unable get any picture from the BNC 'out' socket but the sound is fine.Would this be bad capacitors.I'm not all that clued up with the Sony's as most know.Also i have 2 x Sanyo VTC6500 remote controls and this latest Sony SLF30 remote that all have the same issue, namely the rubber pressure pad that operates the tape functions ONLY refuses to do this.If i remove a pad from one that works OK and use it on the remotes that don't it's fine.It would seem the rubber pad is to blame, but i fail to see why, as they are'nt worn in any way.Is there a special coating on the bottom of these rubber pads that wears off with time??Any help would be greatly appreciated............Thanks in advance..............Kevin

Kevin
Thursday 3rd January 2008
8:45 am U.K.

Kkreynolds76@aol.com

Richard

The head motor from your scrap C7 will fit the C6, but the C7 doesn t have a reel motor - the head drum motor drives the reels. I may have a spare reel motor for a C6 lurking in the depths, I ll have a look.

Boby
Thursday 3rd January 2008
5:16 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Richard,

Reel motor, head Motor , Capstan motor F30 with C7 is a completely different parts.

I spoted bunch of F30 's capstan motor N-I-B, mail me if someone really need a replacement.

THX,best,Boby

Richard.
Wednesday 2nd January 2008
11:13 pm U.K.

rwsleeman@btinternet.com

PS) I forgot to ask if anyone knows if the Head motor and reel motor from a scrap c7 will be compatible?Thanks.Richard.

Richard.
Wednesday 2nd January 2008
11:08 pm U.K.

rwsleeman@btinternet.com

Hello everyone. I am in desperate need of a fully working Head motor for a Sony SLF30ub, A working Head motor and working Reel motor for a Sony C6UB MK2. I don't want to scrap these vcr,s. Can someone please help??Kind Regards.Richard.PS) i also need a near mint or new video head for a Toshiba V9600B vcr too. :(

Boby
Wednesday 2nd January 2008
3:49 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

The head is actually HF150 's head.I heard that some expert uses it on HF100. (it should be compatible I supposed; I got one original but someone in this chatpage took(bought) it already).

I do myself uses it in HF77K.Some may squeeze into HF950.

For the price quote, just type in HF150 in Ebay search engine then you'll easily find it or drop me a mail.[it's been on ebay more than half a year]Good luck tho...

Harold Koster
Wednesday 2nd January 2008
12:45 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

Boby,That message of mine should of course read HF100.

Harold

Harold Koster
Wednesday 2nd January 2008
12:42 pm U.K.

hkoster@onetel.com

Boby, a Happy New Year.

How much are you asking for a RF100 head?

Harold

Chris H
Wednesday 2nd January 2008
8:15 am U.K.

crhowles@googlemail.com

Sony C7 for sale - faulty (spares or repair), includes two faulty remotes.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130186412851&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=003

Boby
Wednesday 2nd January 2008
4:27 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Mine 860D, turning of-ON on it's own after a very long time of hibernation.

IF you need a new HF100 head, I have plenty factory sealed NIB.

THX

Best, Boby

stuart
Tuesday 1st January 2008
5:22 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi everyone. I am somewhat bemused. Remember I asked a while ago about a sony hf100 I bought which is perfect except that it wouldnt play its own tapes? Well I have done nothing with it, yet after having it powered on for a couple of hours today, I then tried it again and it is fine. Plays back its own recordings perfectly. Any ideas as to why? Could it be because it had not been used for however long?

K .Lambert
Sunday 30th December 2007
3:29 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Noel:Whilst i appreciate your remarks concerning service engineers, a few diagnosis i had of VHS models were way off and this had nothing to do with not being able to get the genuine part.Having said that for a Betamax that is probably true to a point as the belts and idlers are still fairly easy to get for the Sanyo models, especially the later ones.That's also another reason i have a few various Sanyo machines ,(not viable for repair at the time or mssing door's e.t.c) that i have utilised for spares.They ARE getting worth their weight in gold too as getting some parts now is nigh on impossible,the same for Sony, as you are finding yourself.It's probably a good thing some of us out their ,with a little or lot of experience, are willing to resurrect or help others get the Beta's in great shape again.It never ceases to amaze me how robust and reliable a lot of these machines are (worn belt's idlers/motors e.t.c aside).Having said that i also have three late eighties to mid nineties Sanyo VHS models , fairly advanced models, that have all had excessive useage and a service by me with new belts and the like after around 8 years, that still perform flawlessly.Mode switches can become dirty with old solid grease giving them havoc and sticky idler clutch/shafts but that's about it.The odd dry joint has also cropped up especially where a lot of movement or pressure is excerted.Picture and sound wise the heads are still in great shape and perform admirably, both recording and playback.The VHS decks available nowerdays (or were) are utilising shockingly limited components and breakabe plastic all over.Not built to last long,but i feel some will amaze us many years on......All in all,it goes to show if you look after something and give it some proper care and love they reward you with long life and good service.........something i'm really proud of as i'm sure most are who cherish their own models for whatever reasons...........................Kevin

Noel Higgins
Sunday 30th December 2007
3:48 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Kevin and Stuart,

There is still an advantage in using the beta for time shift viewing especially on Pay per view because it will record everything -no macrovision problems or such. Besides, I like the instant response you get on to operation functions and preview/review scan. SLHF950s do the trick. My VHS machines are the Sony editors models SLV787, SLV777 and SLV815 with the big remote programming jjog shuttle remotes. Make you feel in charge of technology even though they are 15+ years old. What people tend to forget is the better ergonomics of the older beta machines where there was a buttonfor each function and it lit up when it was active. It is a lot more intuitive than trying to work out what some spinning coloured symbol means - assuming you can actually see it. I have a cheap DVD recorder I bought second hand and it sort of works - when it wants to. A cheap Conia. I have had a top of the range panasonic DVD/HD recorder, digital tuner model here for a while, but I was not that impressed with it. Fiddly to use.

Re-service agents. Time is money. It has to be a standard repair and they generally wont improvise especially in using non-genuine or second hand parts. Causes warranty issues for them. They are also trained in such a way that they think in the box. Innovative solutions are not to common.

cheers Noel

stuart
Saturday 29th December 2007
4:00 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Kevin, Thanks for your encouragement! I do have a soldering iron and have used it so far only to resolder a dry joint on the rear audio out of a c9, but was still very rewarding when the channel came back to life :)I will admit to owning a dvd recorder and very good it is too but its not a standalone, it is an all in one dvd/vhs recorder and digital tv freeview reciever, so will let me copy my vhs tapes obtained with my hi8 camcorder to dvd, or copy future hi8 direct to dvd through its inputs. This is the only reason I bought it but will keep it after I have transferred my tapes as it is a great machine.I too like you prefer tapes though and as beta is better, beta I have chosen. I must be the only person in the uk recording from cable tv to a beta vcr!

K .Lambert
Saturday 29th December 2007
11:17 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Noel and Stuart:Stuart, having read your comments at the end i can understand the remarks.That is why i started to overhaul the Sanyo Betamaxes as most service engineers gave me a funny look when mentioning them.A lot now probably think vHS models are hardly worth servicing /repairing.Some say 'thank god for DVD' but i , like most here, LOVE using these vintage machines that are far more complex than a DVD player could ever be.Maybe it's my reluctance to accept that the tape format is now considered by a lot obsolete.It also saddens me when some vcr's have minor faults that are easily remedeed that a lot use this as an excuse to dump the machine and move on.I've come across many that have needed the mode switch cleaned or belts replaced, duff motors/idlers,failed capacitors e.t.c (the heads and others ares being fantastic) and i even had one repair outlet tell me a Sanyo VHR7700e had a failed micrprossecor and was not repairable.I kept it and found out that it needed a small ( 25p) fuse replaced that was a common failing on that model.So much for a the faulty processor!I will continue to do what i do as i enjoy it and like many like to keep these classic machines working.I do have DVD players in use but have not taken the plunge with a DVD recorder as i like my tape formats too much.Besides i've helped and delighted many and that alone is worth it's weight.Stuart ,if you are careful,safe and have own a soldering iron and really enjoy this side of things.You can learn a lot from books and the internet too, there are some things you can do as good as ( if not better) than a quailfied engineer.Some that i've come across in the past have led me a merry dance with very innacurate fault quotas and diagnosis.That is another reason to do some research , as you can find many accurate answers to common faults and issues if you really look for them.Good luck with this too, always good to have a fellow enthusiast fighting the good fight......................Kevin

stuart
Saturday 29th December 2007
10:08 am U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Cheers Noel,There is a service centre in my town (a panasonic dealer) which have been happy to do work on panny vhs machines for me such as general service, and also replacement of tuners and rf modulators in nvhs1000s for me. I asked them if they were willing to have a go at sony betas but answer was a flat no. They are even sometimes starting to have doubts on repair of panny vhs machines over a certain age, even though you can still easily obtain upper sylinders (genuine item) for them!However I think maybe the no was based on it being a mechanical repair I needed at the time. If its just swapping board components and testing them I dont seee why they should refuse?

Noel Higgins
Saturday 29th December 2007
2:22 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Stuart,

Any good service centre in UK should be able to changeover the transformer for you. The solder can be removed with a solder sucker or solder wick, the transformers removed and the new one put in place. Just be sure check the winding resistance of the turns especially the primary with an ohm meter to ensure its OK, not open circuit as the fault causes. It would cost you far to much to send the boards for a holiday to Australia if that is what you were suggesting ;-)

Regarding the SLC9 DC/DC question, I personally think running them for an hour a month is the best option. It keeps the electrolytics in use but avoids burning out the displays which happens over time. Heat is the main enemy of the DC/DC when they are left on continuously, but the caps do go faulty over time or dry out anyway.

Cheers Noel (betaheaven.com)

stuart
Friday 28th December 2007
5:45 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi guys, just need to pose a quick question to you regarding c9 dc dc...I have just sold a c9 on ebay, in full working order, and he has asked me which is best to preserve the life of a working dc dc - leave it on or turn it off when not in use? I know that excessive on off reduces the life of electronic components, but is it really wise to leave a c9 on permanently? Cheers guys.

Boby
Friday 28th December 2007
1:14 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Addition to my last URL;

Japanese mostly don't speak other languange, and all Japanese Beta seller never sell Internationally; maybe will never do.

Greets,Boby

stuart
Thursday 27th December 2007
2:49 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi, Noel, I have a friend here in england who is able to supply me with a t901 from an f30, I will then attempt the repair myself, or if i deem it too difficult I will send both boards to have the job done. However I will still need the board which has the av inputs and outputs mounted to it. I will email you later regarding this. Cheers for your help and info noel.

Craig Felsmann
Tuesday 25th December 2007
6:54 am U.K.

kreigas@hotmail.com

Bobby: My brother-in-law won your awesome HF 950 jog/ shuttle remote for me. Been after one of those babies for years, now, and yours was in mint condition! Very impressed,Cheers!...And a big Merry Christmas and Happy 2008 to all the regular pals @ Palsite.com!

Boby
Monday 24th December 2007
11:37 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

more Betamax page from betafellas;

http://users.pandora.be/frank.ttt/

click video then click betamax

Greets,Boby

Noel Higgins
Monday 24th December 2007
8:56 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Colin,

That trace looks really good - same output from each head and flat. Entry and exit side dont need touching. I use an analogue scope -onteresting to see the trace and noise clitches from a digital scope.

Matthew,

OK on the sanyo machine, reel motor could be the problem. I have others for parts so should be able to fix it. Have a great day tomorrow.

cheers Noel.

Matthew Gibb
Monday 24th December 2007
8:39 am U.K.

dreammc@tpg.com.au

merry xmas noel, colin and fellow betamax geeksA friend just gave me his sanyo VTC 5005 PAL machine as he hasn't used it for many yearsIt does turn on, load tapes and play them but it only plays for a few seconds then stops and both FF and rewind don't work (reel doesn't move) and machine makes noise

I'll be sending it your way noel for quoation and hopefully it is worth fixingThe Sanyo M10 is a little selective of tapes. one or two it will load and play for five seconds then stops but it's a rare occurance.

The picture quality of my M10 is remarkably sharp and in some cases better than my Sony C6 I prefer to rewing tapes in the sony as the M10 takes way too long.

Was the VTC 5005 just one of the last 5000's. I've never seen a 5005 before

Colin McCormick
Sunday 23rd December 2007
7:46 pm U.K.

colin99@bifgoot.com

Noel, re F25 tape path problem.

Thanks for that suggestion. A slight adjustment of the second guide support made the tape top edge visibly less crinkly and the RF signal became much more stable. A look at the 'scope shows that it is now satisfactory, though perhaps still a little less than excellent:http://www.video99.co.uk/beta/f25_rf.jpgStill the start of the sweep looks a little "different" than the rest of it. The top trace is the head switch signal so the trace shows both head outputs.

I think the machine is now good enough for everyday use, but I will perhaps spend some more time on it to get it up to top class condition.

To those who don't know what this trace is all about, it is the proper way to check and set up the tape path of any video recorder. Most machines have easy access test points for these important signals. I'll keep this 'scope trace available for at least a few weeks.

Regards and season's greetings,

Colinwww.video99.co.uk

Noel Higgins
Sunday 23rd December 2007
5:20 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Kevin,

Thanks for your best wishes and I would also like to wish the guys and gals of Palsite a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

For general information as a followup to Stuarts request for a replacement to the T901 bias transformer of the SLHF950, I enquired here in Austrlia and that part is no longer supplied. The good news is that it is also used in the SLF30, SLF60 , SLF77, SLHF99, SLHF150 and SLC80 so if you have one of those machines for spares you can use a secondhand one to get your SLHF950 back into action. Not having the bias transformer operative means that you do not have a linear audio track but worse is that you are not properly erasing the previous information off a used tape when recording a new program. You can sometime see background rolling caused by the old sync information.

cheers Noel (beatheaven.com)

Boby
Sunday 23rd December 2007
5:12 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

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Olive E Thomas
Saturday 22nd December 2007
7:22 pm U.K.

¿live_e_th¿mas@yah¿¿.com

Sony Sl-2000 Advert ripped from YouTube and converted to MPEG1

http://w15.media-convert.com/getfile.php?lg=en&xid=mkffowcl

Should be available for a day or so...

K .Lambert
Saturday 22nd December 2007
3:51 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

.........Oh and a MERRY CHRISTMAS! to one and all and 'all the best for 2008'.............................Kevin

K .Lambert
Saturday 22nd December 2007
3:47 pm U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

Noel:....................OUCHHHH........BIG TIME :(.................Kevin

Noel Higgins
Friday 21st December 2007
10:24 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Colin,

I have had similar problems with a machine (sometimes loads and plays OK other times not)and it had a lot to do with the settings of the two black arms that hold the tops of the foldup pins on the load ring. When you talk about the FM waveform I pressume you are actually talking about the RF waveform from the head amp.

I set the arms as per the service manual for least tape slack. (upper and lower edges)If there is too much up or down force on the tape as it plays it can tend to kick out or even crease which damages the tape never mind the poor picture. Another place tape damage happens is on the exit side of the capstan. You need to be sure you have a good capstan roller but if thats OK then using the preview and review modes (ie FFWD or REW while playing) you can get a good idea if the tape is set up OK in this regard but on the entry side to the drum and then at the end after it passes the audio head and over the capstan. Then it's down to tweaking the posts to get optimum output from a known test tape.

Hope this helps. cheers Noel

P.S. re the fuse etc - I've been there, but you feel a lot worse if you accidently drop the adjustment screw drive down the side of the guide and rip off a fast spinning video head chip. (And worse - it happened to me with some new SLHF950 heads)

Colin McCormick
Friday 21st December 2007
7:41 pm U.K.

colin99@bifgoot.com

Re SL-F25: Partly solved this. The back tension post was jammed in the wrong position, and in turn was not allowing the mechanism to click the cam into the loading ring and so drive the loading ring fully clockwise. Just freeing the back tension post was enough to make the whole mechanism run properly.

However I still have problems. Sometimes the machine gives perfect results, but often the top of the picture isn't right and the whole picture can jump or even roll. A look at the FM envelope shows that the start of the sweep (or just after the start) can suddendly drop to almost zero FM output, leaving a hole or dip in the FM trace. In this case, the head tips can sometimes be heard slapping against the tape, though it's not visible that the tape is not flat against the drum. I swapped the upper drum over with scrap F30 but the results are little better. So there is a tape path problem somewhere.

I also managed to short out a supply and popped a N20 ICP fuse at one point, fortunately I keep them in stock.

It's not going very well...

Colin McCormick
Thursday 20th December 2007
11:07 pm U.K.

colin99@bifgoot.com

SL-F25 failing to quite complete loading.

Anyone had lots of experience with the tape threading of the Sony SL-F25 and similar? This machine fully works, but the tape threading is just a tiny bit short of being completed. As a result the rightmost tape guide isn't quite fully home against the end stop and is a little wobbly. The top of the picture is therefore mis-tracked.

I do hope it doesn't mean stripping down the whole threading mechanism, I've not done this before and it looks tricky. Lat time I played with one of these I managed to break one of the pop-up pins.

Thanks for any help,

Colin

www.video99.co.uk

Boby
Wednesday 19th December 2007
8:54 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

~@@@@@@!_! my lovely remote went to Aussie;

Ebay item no; 160185903261

Farewell

Philip A
Wednesday 19th December 2007
5:47 am U.K.

philipaksoy@hotmail.com

Charlie, I thank you for the quick response. I am going to follow your advice first thing tomorrow.

Philip

Charlie
Tuesday 18th December 2007
4:38 pm U.K.

betaman@yahoo.com

Philip, Replace the voltage regulator in the power supply of your SL-HF-900 and your functions should be restored. It's marked with a part number on it (STK-5441) and it's black in color.MCM electronics in Dayton,Ohio has them and they're listed under semiconductor.Cost is around $8.00 but they have a minimum order of $25.00. You will have to de-solder and remove the old one and then solder the new one back in. Good Luck!!

Charlie

Philip A
Tuesday 18th December 2007
6:21 am U.K.

philipaksoy@hotmail.com

Hello everyone. I have this Sony SL-HF900 (NTSC)that had been working fine until recently.Now, it turns on, front panel lights up, clock, channel up/down works but it doesn't thread the tape in. I checked the fuses (x2 of them) also the switch that senses the casette when pushed in. They are all fine. I wonder if anyone experienced such a problem. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks. Philip.

Bill
Sunday 16th December 2007
6:49 am U.K.

electravibe10@googlemail.com

I wondered why I had received no response to this posting. I've now discovered that I somehow managed to post it on the Betacam page by mistake!

My belated thanks to Boby and others who gave me useful info on the pan-European setup on my SLHF950ES. I would very much appreciate it if anyone in the rest of Europe - perhaps rather broadly defined from my own VHF DX experience as Portugal through to western Russia, including Greece and some of the Balkans - could give me some details and frequencies and/or channel numbers for any surviving VHF channels in their particular areas.

UHF isn't really a problem, although I've never got any further than north - western France through to Germany. Ionosphere permitting, I'd like to try recording VHF DX off-air on my 950. I didn't have the machine during the VHF DX bonanza of the early 90s. All I know is that Belgium may still have a couple of VHF channels, but I would especially like any info on Italy and Spain. I think Russia is probably a write-off.

Of course I would also welcome any info from other UK DXers. Yours in hope, Bill

Boby
Saturday 15th December 2007
12:35 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

I see many Betamax warfare nowadays; Ebay item 320192866472.

You'll find more similar item.

Cheers,Boby

Boby
Friday 14th December 2007
6:49 am U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

Hi Stuart;

I have TA36 board and I'm sure also have TA37 but I'll have to check it first. Generally I have all 950 boards(used). Drop me a mail and I'll give picture for comparison. I'll Ebay if you want to.THX,Cheers,Boby.

stuart
Thursday 13th December 2007
5:42 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

Hi all, I am looking for a ta37 board for a sony 950 - MUST have working t901, that is, it records linear (non hi fi) audio and am willing to pay good money for it. Also require the board which the rear av inputs are mounted on. If you have a 950 with knackered heads but is otherwise fine, I am willing to pay £80 for these two boards.

Noel Higgins
Thursday 13th December 2007
9:15 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

To Beau Simpson,

Noting what Keith said to you, another problem could be macrovision. If it is a copy of a commerial VHS tape and you are copying it back to VHS then macrovision can cause problems particularly the change of brightness from light to dark. There are boxes on the market that can remove this signal to allow the tape to be transferred.

Glenn, re the Pal beta VCR check out betaheaven.com. Postage to USA is expensive however.

cheers Noel

K .Lambert
Tuesday 11th December 2007
9:40 pm U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

Hi:Yes, but the distance and willingness to post ( at some risk) could be a problem.I'm sure someone will oblige though..................Kevin

glenn beatty
Tuesday 11th December 2007
4:02 pm U.K.

gbeatty@vidipax.com

Looking to purchase a betamax pal deck. I am in New York City. Suggestions? Ebay?

L Stowers
Sunday 9th December 2007
8:20 pm U.K.

lara@lhg2.fsnet.co.uk

hi I have a Sanyo Colour Video Sound Camera VSC 5800 Portable Video Cassette Recorder VPR 5800 Video Tuner Timer VTT 5800. The portable recorder accepts tapes, but does not play, rewind or fast forward, well it makes the noises so think belt is broken.The camara works, you can see through the little monitor.And a load of betamax tapes as well.How much is this worth?, would anyone be interested in it, would rather it went to a good home.

Boby
Saturday 8th December 2007
3:16 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotnail.com

Looks like a very decent high class Beta machine, ebay item number; 130181365974 a lovely pair to hunt for, only hundred bux.

Ciao2,Boby

K .Lambert
Saturday 8th December 2007
12:20 am U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

Hi:Sounds to me like the problem is you are going from AV through the TV to the VHS.You'd be better off going from the Beta straight to the VHS using the AV sockets on both and then you can watch what your recording by RF on the Beta.Hope this helps...................Kevin

beau simpson
Friday 7th December 2007
10:06 pm U.K.

rollforming@iprimus.com.au

Hello everyone I have a Sony SL-HF-100AS that I inherited and am transfering some tapes to vhs prior to then on to dvd.the proble that I have is that when I view on the tv all ok however when transferred they are in b/w no colour, my set up is rf out into tv then av from tv to vhs recorder.I do not have the instruction manual for the sony beta vcr and wondered if I may be doing something wrong.If any member has a manual that they would be so kind as to email me I would be most grateful.regardsbeau

Steve Rowley
Tuesday 4th December 2007
7:08 pm U.K.

steve.rowley@publitek.com

Toshiba V-9600B machine for sale on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280180457329&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018

Boby
Monday 3rd December 2007
2:32 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

To; Brenda

I knew that you were looking for your machine's remote.IF you still do then I'll contact my relation and see if they can provide.

THXCheers,Boby

Steve Rowley
Sunday 2nd December 2007
7:41 pm U.K.

steve.rowley@publitek.com

On Ebay there is a collection of 41 original Betamax films. They're ex-rental, in original artwork boxes. Starting price is just £20 ie 50p each!

See:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280179720680&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018

K .Lambert
Sunday 2nd December 2007
9:19 am U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

Hi StuartI would'nt recommend that.Most members here are DECENT and honest...........................:)..................Kevin

stuart
Saturday 1st December 2007
4:58 pm U.K.

stuart.george1@ntlworld.com

I wonder if I should direct him to read the comments made about him here!! For those of you who may be interested, my ebay id is koyli_55002. Any betas I sell are exactly as described and always described in detail, even if I put faulty ones up :)

K .Lambert
Saturday 1st December 2007
2:58 pm U.K.

kitt@knightrider.fsbusiness.co.uk

HiI've just been reading his feedback on E-Bay and there is quite a few negatives as i suspected. ANYONE who responds to their negative comments in capital letters and with the way in which he does is obviously an angry person and it seems dishonest too.Anyone worth their salt should'nt get any negatives if they are honest, worthy and deliver exactly what they state.............The other point being, his items are not only overpriced but 'sold as seen', that to me always says bad news and a waste of money.It's like a coverup knowing full well it is'nt going to be as you want it to or expect.My humble advice is AVOID..................Kevin

Boby
Saturday 1st December 2007
12:09 pm U.K.

bobymc@hotmail.com

I assumed the seller you're talking about is making a sale right now. LOL ,the name represents the guy.

Cheers

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