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Mark0
Monday 19th March 2012
1:25 pm U.K.

markout2002@yahoo.co.uk

Kevin yes I'm in the uk,Ive got the TOSHIBA V-5470B coming soon so I'm just thinking the worst,I'm not 100% sure it needs belts yet till i get it,just that its the main problem with them so I'm thinking ahead.

K Lambert
Monday 19th March 2012
12:04 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Marko

Are you in the UK?I do have a huge range of old stock (but new) belts bought from an ex service engineer.I may have the ones you need.Getting them new now in a set may prove impossible ,if not waiting for long periods of time to find out if anyone can get them.I will need you to remove and measure the inner diameter and belt thickness (mm) and also whether square or flat type.As i know some Sony's and Toshiba's used both types.

.................Kevin

doc judd
Monday 19th March 2012
5:40 am U.K.

garnetjudd@bigpond.com

put y Sony SL-HF 100 AS COMPLETE WITH MANUAL and remote and a usa rewinder with stepdown transformer and approx 80 tapes consisting if movies and documentaries.I am aking $500 for the lot,is that a bit much?

Mark0
Sunday 18th March 2012
10:18 pm U.K.

markout2002@yahoo.co.uk

hi does anyone have any idea where to buy tape belts for a TOSHIBA V-5470B

peter john
Saturday 17th March 2012
5:08 pm U.K.

peterjohn41@tiscali.co.uk

Nice that we have Kevin on standby. I had same problem but it was me, that by moving betamax didnít realise I had put my fingers on the on off switch at rear of unit with my sl 100. Sony. Pressing front panel button, the set was dead. Wish this was your problem but maybe no such luck. Peter

K Lambert
Saturday 17th March 2012
4:57 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Paul202.

When you say CUT the mains,do you mean unplug or CUT the mains lead off?If the latter you could've caused something to fuse.It's obviously a power supply issue.Be it voltage regulator, bad caps, resistor.I would check caps out first.They are getting old now and will be going bad or leaky.If left long enough in a bad state they can very well cause other damage to resistors,transistors e.t.c.

Hope this helps....................Kevin

Paul2002
Friday 16th March 2012
5:22 pm U.K.

paul_jansen2002@yahoo.com

Hi, in 1986 I purchased a Sony SL-HF950ES. Last 10 years I've used it maybe once a year. Finally, better I had done this for years, I wanted to digitalize my (Super)Beta(Pro) tapes. I started the recorder, the tray went out and I loaded a cassette. The tray didn't get in so I gently pushed it in. Playback first didn't work, only in FF/FR I saw the typical lines. After a while the head was clean and the recorder worked just fine. I recorded a program and after a few tries, the tray went out and back in, fixed! Finally I want to digitalize some tapes, I had to remove the recorder and cut the mains. After I plugged it back in it's dead, no blinking clock. I'm very sad and hope someone can help! Paul/Netherlands.

Gabriel
Thursday 15th March 2012
4:57 pm U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Last week, talking about betas with a job colleague. He told me remembering a cartoon where a Betamax (and a Betamax tape) were involved. It is amazing that there is something like a Sony C5 -C7.

Here is the link:

http://www.watchcartoononline.com/cowboy-bebop-episode-18-english-dubbed

Enjoy this, Betaphiles!

peter john
Wednesday 14th March 2012
5:33 pm U.K.

peterjohn41@ticali.co.uk

Just a quaky not in the expert line as Kevin. But I just use ulead to copy betamax tape to computer and then follow simple instructions to burn to dvd. Works fine. Ulead will cost around £19. Peter, ps you will need about 150gb for long recordings hard drive. Plus a fast computer say 2.8 processor

Mark0
Tuesday 13th March 2012
4:50 pm U.K.

markout2002@yahoo.co.uk

hi can anyone help ? i want to transfer some betamx tape to dvd,whats the best option.ive got Kworld dongle and sotware, works fine but no sound

peter john
Saturday 10th March 2012
8:09 pm U.K.

peterjohn41@tiscali.co.uk

Kevin the Sony sl100 you repaired long time back still operating 100% . Sitting under the flat screen tele away form cigarette smoke, but not getting away with it that easy as it inhales the some from the coal fire nearby. I become a little confused at times regard the best way to keep machine from packing in. Either use it continuously or rarely use it. Reason I like to have two or three batamax working machines. If one goes on stop itís not the end. My fox HD free view box commander plays hell with the beta Sony sl 100 making it rewind Ėfast forward even record when itís not supposed to be running. Have to leave it switched off until required. My AL F1UB developed a fault with no sound input on the timer unit. I was pleased to find another on ebay going cheep. Sold as spares or repair and lucky the timer half works great. Now have sound again. Cassette unit is non-working as explained. If I fix it will not go back on ebay for sale as I donít care if I have a box full of betamaxes . They are the best form and of ease of recording with exceptional picture quality from good input recordings. In use continually for cctv of swallows during the summer season I use a cheep £20 funhi vhs recorder thatís left on continuously year in and year out, recording and playback and still as good after many years stuck out in a tin shed barn. Wouldnít dream of leaving a precious beta out there. Peter

K Lambert
Saturday 10th March 2012
10:22 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

hi peter

i thought your name sounded familair.I did indeed forget.I also am rununing very low on them as they have to be from used beta's.I have three here of my own to sort and two more with the same issue coming my way.One thing i would suggest to ANY SONY Beta vcr owner of their later models.REMOVE this glue before you use the vcr especially if it's not been used in a while or if it's still working.This will hopefully ensure you don't have to go down the road of changing the sensor.Sorry about that Peter and yes i have been inundated with repairs from very grateful Beta users.I hope the other one i did for you is working nicely?

Cheers.................Kevin

peter john
Friday 9th March 2012
6:52 pm U.K.

peterjohn41@tiscali.co.uk

Thanks for the quick reply Kevin. Maybe wrong, but I think problem is some sought of relay behind front panel thatís either not holding energised voltage to keep it switched on. Or could be voltage applied is not reaching it for long. It must be working as a switching device as I can hear it clicking on, then off. Will investigate further, and remove bottom circuit board with its hundreds of push in connectors. Worth probably, trying to fix problem if possible as machine otherwise is like new. Not likely to find spares other than another unit to change components over. Also is this the correct time to mention regards the hall sensor promised by you for my batamax sl 100 ub I know you have been involved in many more important things and time hasnít been available to post or find replacement. Thanks again Kevin Peter

K Lambert
Friday 9th March 2012
9:38 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Peter John:

Unfortunately i have no experience with the f1 model but if you look under the technical pages on this site (go back to the Palsite link first) and look under the F1 model, there are a few associated faults there that may be the cause.Sorry i could'nt be of more help to you.

Good luck....................Kevin

Gabriel
Friday 9th March 2012
7:18 am U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Kevin,

Thanks A LOT again. Now everything is completely understood. As you've said, what I need is TIME to proceed as you describe. Shortly, I will post if able to carry that out (or I break a video head, ¨¨). I think I have some chances to "resurrect" some old betas (among them, a SLHF150 ).

Regards,

Peter, it seems that you have some kind of problem with the tracking control signal(generated in the ACE head) or something wrong with the capstan. However, people with more experience would tell you this with more confidence.

peter john
Thursday 8th March 2012
7:10 pm U.K.

peterjohn41@tiscali.co.uk

SL-F1UB Problem, perfect picture on pause and ok with picture and sound for a few seconds, with play. then trips out. Head motor running on pause with fast-forward and rewind ok again until tripping out again after a few seconds. Tape tension seems all right . If by pressing play button, it runs but no picture. Press pause, have a good picture. Release pause and picture good until motors trips out again. Removed top cover and left cassette out testing motors without drag of tape. All functioning correctly Ėfast forward Ėrewind Ėplay. Tripping out again as before. Any suggestions most welcomed. Have service manual but limited my knowledge is. Peter

K Lambert
Thursday 8th March 2012
4:11 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Gabriel:

No problem.As far as i see it all those screws with springs and washers should be tight.I always find them screwed right up so i don't think there IS any need for discrepancies there.The many i've done have all worked perfectly with no alignment issues.The black tape guide holders will have to be removed too, as well as the two screws and metal bracket that holds them.Make a mark around each one how it's situated before removing them it will aid re- assembly.

Good luck and take your time.

.................Kevin

Gabriel
Thursday 8th March 2012
1:27 pm U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Kevin,

Thanks a lot for your explanation. The only "tricky" step I see is when you have to reassemble the drum into the vcr chassis. We know there are three spring-screws which adjust the position of the drum and they should have a torque in order to avoid a further misalignment. Do you have this into account when changing the sensor? Sorry if I havenīt understood the process, but English is not my home language and sometimes I make mistakes.

Regards,

K Lambert
Thursday 8th March 2012
8:21 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Noeal and Gabriel.

Noel:Thanks for sharing that info.Sanyo too released a Super Beta vcr only (no Hi-Fi)for the US market.The vcr design was near identical to the UK's NX100 but in silver.

Gabriel: There is a way to replace those 'hall effect sensors'.You do have to half remove the head drum,by releasing three wires that go to this.Turn the head drum on it's side,remove the two screws holding the bottom motor board on and magnet.Then replace the sensor.As i have a 'spares' Sony vcr i always have one spare motor board out of the vcr.A soon as i get another Sony with this sensor issue,i always have one board ready to fit and the faulty one is removed and prepped ready for insertion into the next 'patient'.Also be VERY CAREFULL of the fragile heads when turning the head drum on it's side.I've had two sent to me whereby the owner has 'had a go' and damaged one or two heads.OUCH!!!!!I always tape the head disc at the top to stop it moving and make sure one head (or two if it's a Hi-Fi model)are inside the metal bracket holding the drum together.That way you only have one (or two) heads at the top of the drum to avoid damaging and not free to spin around and the other ones are safely inside the covered area.Less hassel.

As for the other 'troll type' comments.: Definetely not welcome here, rude,sarcastic and should be ignored.I suggest said poster reads a forum posting rules,etiquette and guidelines before seriously thinking about posting again.

............Kevin

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 7th March 2012
11:11 pm U.K.

Noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

A special thankyou to the spam removal guys

Bob
Wednesday 7th March 2012
2:39 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

Gabriel,

Believe it or not, I did.

Guess what? They (Kevin, Noel, and Roderick) all took the part of the scammer. They called me a troll and left me out to dry.

They were so worried about losing someone who could fix Betamax vcr's that they said nothing. Kinda like what happened right now after my report.

Thanks for your kind words, Gabe....maybe those old timers will have a new slant on what happened and not criticize me.

Gabriel
Wednesday 7th March 2012
6:32 am U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Bob, I think your story is more than clear right now. However, don't you think it should have been better just by telling this from the beginning? If people read this, they would be aware from this kind of scammers.

Regards,

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 7th March 2012
1:58 am U.K.

Noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Hi Roderick and Kevin

I have obtained two new (old) beta models to add to the Sony listThe first is an SLME 200 (pal secam) and the second is an SLF50

Cheers Noel

Roderick
Tuesday 6th March 2012
10:03 pm U.K.

nospam@palsite.com

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Bob
Tuesday 6th March 2012
4:08 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

Don't tell me to relax. I still steeming over what happened to me.

Here is the story. DON'T TELL ME AFTER YOU READ IT TO GET OVER IT. THAT IT WAS LONG AGO. THAT I MISUNDERSTOOD THE REPAIR GUY. OR ANY OTHER NONSENSE TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY.

HERE IT IS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was the proud owner of a Sony SL-HF600 until it experienced a strangemalfunction. I sent it to the "West Coast Guru" Andy Sanchez who hadsaid he knew what the problem was by my description and if I sent $100with the machine I could expedite repair. Four weeks later I had notheard anything so I e-mailed Andy with an inquiry. He sent back areply stating he was busy fixing his transmission and had had to order arepair manual for my VCR. This satisfied me for another 2 months butafter that I began to wonder. He finally replied after many e-mails thathe could not find the problem. I told him I wanted my machine backanyway and to please return it pronto. This did no good for another twoweeks. Finally I sent him a letter stating I would come out and pick upthe machine myself which would not be beneficial to him. He then sent itback with hardware missing and of course no money or explanation. Anyone out there who wants a Beta unit repaired would be advised not tohave Andy Sanchez involved. Ask Noel or Roderick or Kevin about Pervue,the snail Someko, Absolute Beta, 1ziggi1, thebetamaxstore and on and on.

Ok, you got names. Now what???????Gonna make excuses???????

Gabriel
Tuesday 6th March 2012
7:33 am U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Bob, relax a little pal. Think about I'm not sending any betamax to repair because I can do it by myself thanks to people like Kevin, Noel and others who always give advice FOR FREE. I've been in this board forum for more time than you guess and I've NEVER been offered a repair nor sending my videos to any technician despite I've asked a lot of technical questions.

So, no way for becoming a troll as you would like to (sorry). People here is asking you to giving names to blame and you are just messing and supposing things. If you've been scammed, please TELL US THE STORY WITH FULL DETAILS.

Oh, we have today more spam ¨¨

Regards,

Bob
Monday 5th March 2012
6:05 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

Gabriel, that right keep begging for answer to fix a piece if crap you bought on eBay and have no clue how to fix.

I like the way you used the word troll.. Quite odd that those poor slobs that tried to get their money back on this site were called Trolls.

I may be a troll, but I didnt spend a bunch of money on eBay for a Betamax anchor.

Keep asking these sharpies questions.. and maybe send that used filthy Betamax to them for repairs--When they screw you, we can call GABRIEL a troll...

Gabriel
Monday 5th March 2012
12:52 pm U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Kevin, I've seen it's possible to replace the hall sensor. It seems to be a "surgery work" unless you disassemble the whole drum, doesn't it? Is it critical to remove the whole drum and then put it back in place? I'm talking about aligning it with the three screws with springs, not having an aligning test tape.If you know an alternative/tricky method of changing the hall sensor, please share it as I have some Sony betas with this issue (and others for parts with this sensor OK).

Thanks a lot and ignore the trolls.

tcfx228
Monday 5th March 2012
2:29 am U.K.

tcfx228@yahoo.com

I need to buy a stator for the reel drive on a sony sl-hf550. I found some online (partstore and andrews eletronics), it's hard to tell if it is the right one cause the description is so vauge, no photos either. If anybody has any info on this part, I appriciate it.

tcfx228
Monday 5th March 2012
1:12 am U.K.

tcfx228@yahoo.com

Thanks Kevin for the info. Yes, I am from the US. I have tried the washer on the reel motor like discribed on this site. It still did the same. I think the coil is messed up and I need a new one.

Bob
Monday 5th March 2012
12:51 am U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

You see, All I did was come on here and warn people not to just send their Betamax's to these scammers that sit on this page waiting for the next sucker.

I never mentioned any names ..But I hit a nerve with that one guy..Wonder WHY?

They know as well as I that years back this site had a HUGE problem with people giving free fixing advise and offering to fix Betamax's and then they sold them on eBay or just kept the money..ENOUGH SAID

Intead that House bound creature trying to find out I live, wht didnt try to help us back then?

When there was a problem on this site and poor soles were losing their Betamax's and money, That piece of garbage never said a word or tried to help us..

Remember that when he gets back from the fat farm and post on here.

DAVID BRUNNER
Monday 5th March 2012
12:29 am U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

JKM, is this converter:http://www.kablex.es/img/p/60020338-64-large.jpg

JKM
Monday 5th March 2012
12:13 am U.K.

nospam@3.com

Hi, according to the PAL site pages the Sanyo 9300 uses BNC connectors for video and phono sockets for audio.

Something like this should do..http://www.maplin.co.uk/scart-plug-to-phono-and-bnc-plugs-1.5m-4702

As this is a stereo cable you might want to add this splitter at the VCR end to ensure that the mono output from the Betamax ends up on both Left and Right speakers.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/2-into-1-phono-adaptor-1018

Hope that helps.

DAVID BRUNNER
Sunday 4th March 2012
8:01 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Also exist in single cable with stereo sound:http://cpc.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/42378788.jpg

DAVID BRUNNER
Sunday 4th March 2012
7:52 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

These converters:http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1641/rcabnc.jpghttp://www.electronicarotel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/scart_to_rca_cable-300x300.jpg

Or these:http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1641/rcabnc.jpghttp://www.nedis.es/images/products/SCART%2050.JPGhttp://www.retrogames.cl/imagenes/proyectos/avgenesis1/rca-rca.jpg

Mark0
Sunday 4th March 2012
7:02 pm U.K.

markout2002@yahoo.co.uk

DAVID BRUNNER/ is there any diagrams anywere or pictures,im lost with what you said.marko

K Lambert
Sunday 4th March 2012
3:38 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Tarik:

Sounds like the very common 'hall effect sensor' failure.I would recommend anyone with a later Sony vcr finding out how to access the sensor and remove this glue BEFORE the sensor fails.I do this to any Sony vcr i come across.It can be repaired/replaced.Where abouts do you reside?

Tha 9300 issue.There is a special connector you will need to screw onto the video out of the vcr.I have four of these.I can't remember the method of audio output/input (5 pin din?)You then obtain a scart connector with phono connections and a twin/single phono to phono lead.If you drop me an e-mail i can discuss this further.What country are you in?

....................Kevin

tarik
Saturday 3rd March 2012
11:43 pm U.K.

chris@supercontext.com

Hi, i have a sony C9 that is working, but for the fact that it will not run for more than a few seconds before stopping, at first i thought that it was the take up spool not working, but it is o.k. it stops in F.F. and rewind as well, has anyone had this fault and managed to cure it? i would appreciate any replies to this question. thanks, tarik.

DAVID BRUNNER
Saturday 3rd March 2012
11:20 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

With a converter bnc to rca and cable rca to scart or with a converter bnc to rca, cable rca to rca and converter audio in / video in to scart, I saw a rca / scart with switch in / out but generate noise (not shielded cables), with welder and tin you can do a special cables for betamax

MARKO
Saturday 3rd March 2012
7:25 pm U.K.

markout2002@yahoo.co.uk

hello can a sanyo 9300 be played using a scart lead as there is no video out,only a video out connector,is there some way of doing it.

Roderick
Friday 2nd March 2012
9:44 pm U.K.

nospam@palsite.com

Oh no, here we go again. Another troll trying to stir up trouble because they have nothing else to do with their empty, useless life.Pal, we've been there, done that with previous trolls. Your IP address shows a server in Florida, but probably hacked anyway.Knock yourself out, have some fun than about something you probably can't comprehend.I'll be back in a few weeks when this will have all blown over.

K Lambert
Friday 2nd March 2012
8:59 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Chris

If you take a look at the technical section of this site, you will i believe see the info relating to what you require to sort out your issues.A small 'washer' will need to be fabricated to lift up the magnetic base from the coils.It has to be a certain thickness, otherwise it will obstruct the turning of the spools.Hope this helps.I take it by the model no you are based in the US?

..............Kevin

bob
Friday 2nd March 2012
7:16 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

whooooooooo, MUST HAVE HIT A NERVE..

Relax pal, IM not here to take away your repair bussiness..

As you said , no one in the UK or Australia or even in the US is scamming people..LOL

You guys give advice on these chat pages to help others repair their units.. You know that most of the time these people know nothing about electronics and you pull them into your web.

The fact that you would say that no one in the UK or Australia is taking advantage of anyone speaks volumes .

As far as the LED goes, what are you talking about and dont try to get off the subject.

Boy, Kevin, I didn't even know about you when I first posted my warning. What are you trying to hide?

Bobby

K Lambert
Friday 2nd March 2012
7:03 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Bob

Let me get this straight.You have just appeared on this site and send out advice not to trust anyone offering repairs to their Betamax because you were apparently ripped off by some 'scammer'?You then enquire to me as to whether i offer repairs maybe in the hope that if i say ,'yes' then i am defending anyone who does scam?I think you've got quite a nerve.I help and advise (as well as one or two others) ,from our experience and knowledge of Betamax vcr's. I asked you a simple question, what make or model was it you had been duped into sending out , mainly to see what country you were in.Please understand this site is entitled PAL site , meaning PAL Beta vcr's.Sometimes US beta owners make posts here for help and a lot of the time it's not possible as discussion is usually for PAL Beta vcr's.Blank tapes would only be of interest for sale from the US as they can be recorded on whatever region they are bought in.I also find it odd you suddenly appeared( yes i do read this board frequently) and make these accusations.If you HAVE been duped then i'm sorry for that but let me assure you KNOWONE in the UK or Australia ,as far as i know has EVER done this to any Beta owner.

There has also been in the past, silly posts from certain persons, that if i remember rightly , went on and on and on about wanting a LED VU level meter for a Sony and not getting an answer.That posters name was Bobby.Coincidence maybe but suspicious all the same.I will treat this post accordingly.

.......................Kevin

bob
Friday 2nd March 2012
4:49 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

Kevin, What make and model was taken from me by a scammer???

That's going to help me get my machine and money back????

I find it quite odd that you seem to defend this nonsense and I will ask you one question to find out where you're coming from.

1) Other than giving good information on this chat page, do you offer a service to repair Betamax if people send it to you?

Sorry to put you thru this keven, but your answer will tell the tale.

Bobby

John
Friday 2nd March 2012
10:49 am U.K.

john.r.ames@btinternet.com

I'm new to this site and would appreciate advice.I have a SLC-9UB purchased in May 1984, together with over 50 tapes and I also have the service manual. I retired the machine some years ago when it suffered the mechanical breakdown that you describe on this site that prevents cassete ejection. I had previously replaced the video head, made internal repairs (successfully) to a 'sealed' DC-DC converter and replaced small plastic cogs in the eject mechanism with a Sony kit containing metal parts. I would now like to repair the machine to check through and archive the old tapes. Is there any source for the broken mechanical parts? If I can get the transport working properly I'll then go on to look at the electronics.Specifically, the mechanical part that has failed is 'Arm, holder, driving' part No 3-670-136-00 and I'm wondering if it was caused by failure of 'Switch, micro, S1 (cassette up)' to detect the end of that part of the eject phase.Before anyone asks, I'm a qualified electronics engineer, but from a different field, and this is not a commercial enquiry - the machine is my own and was our family VCR for many years!

tcfx228
Friday 2nd March 2012
8:51 am U.K.

tcfx228@yahoo.com

Yes Kevin, I just checked after reading what you said. The rotor does rub against the coil and the only thing is that the tape wont play. So far it still ejects and fastforward and rewinds. I don't know what to do with it now.

Thanks for your response.

Chris

DAVID BRUNNER
Thursday 1st March 2012
11:35 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Bob, I said that first the technician send money to you and after you send the video to the technician

K Lambert
Thursday 1st March 2012
8:41 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Bob:In regards to your beta scammer comments, there has been knowone on this site who has asked for faulty beta's to repair.I take it your in the US?I have also not seen any specific request here by any member asking for Beta's to repair.What make and model no did you send for repair ?Whilst myself and one or two others are able to do this as we have the knowledge and some years experience ,we willingly offer assistance to help if a beta user is struggling to find help to get their machine back to 100%.I certainly do not know of anyone who has scammed anyone here.I find you remarks a bit odd.If this did happen to you it must have been quite some time ago.

........................Kevin

bob
Thursday 1st March 2012
7:22 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

David, You sound like you had a few..But I think your saying that you should not give these creatures any money before they do the repair?

Only the problem with these things from the UK and USA is that they only want the Betamax, so they dont care if you send them money or not.

The Betamax you send them is s gold mine and will be on eBay before your first email begging them to return or repair the unit.

I bet anyone who repairs, also sells on eBay.. And thats is a FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than that ..have a beta day.. BOBBY

K Lambert
Thursday 1st March 2012
12:51 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Chris

Are you sure that reel motor failure is to blame.The Sony's allow the forward torque to be adjusted.This would have the same effect as you describe if this torque is too low.It should be around 80 and you'll need a Sony torque cassette to check this.Also the reel drive motor bushing maybe worn.This too would stop the tape from returning to the shell on eject at fist and then stop it turning altogether at worst.It can also be repaired using a special sized washer to support/lift the reel drive spool shaft/magnet from the coils.

..................Kevin

DAVID BRUNNER
Wednesday 29th February 2012
10:10 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

I think that if the people before of send the video ask money a "the repairer" not happen this problems

bob
Wednesday 29th February 2012
5:33 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

Relax, Kevin....

Look, these creatures change their name from scam to scam.

I understand your concern because you may have a Betamax you want to send to be repaired.

Personally I would stay away from anyone who tries to sell his sevices on a chat page..

Sorry I cant help you with names ..Just be thankful YOU didn't

send one of your Betamax to these crooks.

Bobby

tcfx228
Wednesday 29th February 2012
5:20 pm U.K.

tcfx228@yahoo.com

Hi, I have a Sony SL-HF550 super beta vcr. I need a reel drive motor cause mine is too weak to keep the right side of the tape wound in play mode. It works just fine fast forward and rewind. Anyone have any info, I appreciate it.

Thanks,Chris

K Lambert
Wednesday 29th February 2012
5:07 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Bob

Thanks for the heads up.As far as i'm aware here in the UK knowone has done this on this site.I certainly would'nt EVER stoop so low.A name of said person would be appreciated, if this is the case.

..............Kevin

bob
Wednesday 29th February 2012
2:47 pm U.K.

bob@yahoo.com

BEWARE of sending your Betamax to scammers on this site.

I sent one to a person who continue to hunt people for their Betamax's. After you send the Betamax they go silent and then email you that the unit can't be fix.

These creatures know you wont send it back to them and a few weeks later they list it on eBay.

I can't be the only one on this page that sent my rare Betamax to this person with a horrific ending.

You know who you are , so stop this now!!!!!!!!

Bobby

DAVID BRUNNER
Tuesday 28th February 2012
9:43 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Better in html, in txt there are problems:http://galeon.com/davidbrunner/BETA-COUNTER.html

DAVID BRUNNER
Tuesday 28th February 2012
9:36 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Archive with all the times of the Beta counters:http://galeon.com/davidbrunner/BETA-COUNTER.txt

DAVID BRUNNER
Tuesday 28th February 2012
6:17 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Kevin in this page appears videos with real time counter:http://www.palsite.com/tapecounter.htmBut the SONY SL-C20 too has real time counter, I checked today:I rewind a tape in the SONY SL-F30, when finished the counter marked 5973, 10000 - 5973 = 4027, after I forward the same tape in the SONY SL-C20 and when finished marked 4026, only 1 of diference

K Lambert
Tuesday 28th February 2012
10:03 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

David:

In regards to the tape counter.The Sony' use the recorded track that is used to time the speed of the tape to count with the tape counter.In other words if there is NO recording on the tape and it's NEVER been recorded on, there will be NO tape counting until it has a recording on it.As for the no color in record.It seems like a color fault has appeared in the recording side only.I'm not sure at this time what component it could be.Maybe some one here can chip in?

..........Kevin

DAVID BRUNNER
Monday 27th February 2012
6:31 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Kevin, I want tell that if the counter only count in a recorded tape means that the video have real time counter?

And for all chat I want tell that yesterday I put to record in the SONY SL-F30 and today when I push play the record is in black and white, but other tape play in color, what component or components are broken?

K Lambert
Monday 27th February 2012
4:42 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi David

From what you have stated, i believe you mean ,why does the C20 not have a real time counter.The ONLY UK Beta models that did were the C9 and HF950. Interestingly too the Sanyo models used a mechanical/electronic method to record the counter pulses(under the right or left spool, depending on whether they had the tape remaining indicator or not).The Sony models (later front loading ones) used the control track pulses to monitor the counter pulses.Hope this clears it up.

Good luck too to the guys selling or looking for NTSC Beta equipment.

.........Kevin

Chris Margrave-Gregory
Monday 27th February 2012
11:11 am U.K.

chris@thameside.tv

Hi I am currently looking for a AMPEX AVR2- 2" machine.

Please let me know if you have any available

Kind RegardsChris

Chris@thameside.tv

DAVID BRUNNER
Monday 27th February 2012
12:08 am U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Hello, I have the SONY SL-C20, when I put a new tape not count the counter, why in this page this video not appears with real time counter?

lifeform
Thursday 23rd February 2012
11:18 pm U.K.

travis_ebay@yahoo.com

I have a beta machine for sale it is a zenith video director also includes over 150 tapes. All of the tapes are in holders made for beta tapes. I bought all of this at a auction and have no clue of the value so just make a fair offer. I can send pics through my cell phone call 317-364-0167

JJC
Thursday 23rd February 2012
4:47 pm U.K.

unclejay73@gmail.com

Hi gang,

Greetings from New Jersey, USA. Very cool spot here devoted to Betamax. I'm a longtime collector and enthusiast.

Was wondering if anyone had any pre-recorded Beta Movies for sale or trade.

Thanks,

Jason

pro-fast sa
Thursday 23rd February 2012
5:23 am U.K.

ghomhunx@ozeudkbb.com

Made to want many variation, healthcare bondages undergo students between rice and side. , https://wiki.kubuntu.org/losp?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=pex23 fastin reviews, =P,

Gabriel
Wednesday 22nd February 2012
4:38 pm U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Kevin, Your reply has been completely explanatory. Thanks a lot,

Gabriel

K Lambert
Wednesday 22nd February 2012
12:12 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi gabrielThe c9 uses a linear stereo system by splitting in two the normal mono edgetrack recording system.It will still a a slow low fi sound but stereo.The Hi-Fi uses two extra heads to the video disc for the higher quality sound.As the tape to head speed is a lot faster and the sound penetrates the tape deeper and slightly off angle to the video tracks, the sound is of a much higher fidelity.Around 80db compared to the normal vcr sound of around 40db i believe.Certainly a lot better with music than the normal vcr sound.Especially if listening through a high quality Hi-Fi system.

Hope this explains things more for you.

.......Kevin

Gabriel
Tuesday 21st February 2012
8:52 pm U.K.

gabrigpb@hotmail.com

Could anyone kindly explain me the difference between the linear stereo system ( SL-C9 ) and the stereo HiFi (HF series)? It seems to be they're quite different by just having a look to the drum assembly.

Regards,

Retronic
Tuesday 21st February 2012
8:36 pm U.K.

john@chezwrig.wanadoo.co.uk

HiI finally got a decent Betamax and it's not working. I couldn't get the scart to work so tried the old RF route. The sound is fine but the video is plain black screen (no signal at all). When I flick on the test signal this is clear- both audio & video.Am I missing something about this particular machine?Is it a frequency issue?My plan is to rip some old tapes to DVD-R and I have a Scart to 2 x BNC & 4 x phono but I guess I need to sort th basics out first.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The machine is an ebay purchase so i have never seen it working.

Noel Higgins
Saturday 18th February 2012
11:38 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Sorry have not been on the site for a while.

To AMI, who posted back on 3 Feb with the Sony SLC9 that only wants to work in slow motion mode.

That is a problem caused by lack of tracking pulses to the main servo IC on the bottom SS-11 board. I have found this previously to be due to faulty capacitors around the buffer ICs. You will need a service manual and a CRO to track the location where the pulses stop.

The capacitors leak fluid onto the copper tracks and can break the connection. The capacitor and corrosion changes can also effect IC input gate bias conditions. The service manual has a block diagram of the signal path to help you understand the operation and follow the tracking pulses path and to see when lock is lost.

The slow motion mode operation is different in that the normal tracking signal is not expected but instead generated by the slow motion circuitry. Good luck!

regards Noel

K Lambert
Saturday 18th February 2012
1:42 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Cheers for that Bill.

Looking forward to it :)

......Kevin

Bill
Saturday 18th February 2012
11:52 am U.K.

electravibe10@gmail.com

Hi Kevin,

I'm preparing a screed about dongles and capture for you. It will be long and somewhat off-topic, so I'll send it to you direct. If it looks like being the longest E-mail in history I might even send you it by snail-mail! At some point I might post a heavily cut down version in case anyone else is interested. I personally think that as well as all its other uses it's a great way to use Beta in a digital environment.

All the best, Bill

Jonny Sausage
Friday 17th February 2012
6:29 pm U.K.

info@jonathanstenton.com

Hi

I currently have about 4-5 Betamax tapes that I want to archive digitally. I'm not sure which model of machine the tapes were recorded on or the format of the tapes, (beta or super) I was just hoping someone could recommend a suitable (highend) Betamax player for an archiving project. Obviously I want to try and maintain the best possible signal throughout. I read though that the only Betamax players with S-VIdeo outputs are the SL-HF2100 and they are rare. So BNC is my only output? Equally would it be recommended to source a superbetamax deck?

Many Thanks

K Lambert
Wednesday 15th February 2012
5:08 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Bill

Thanks for the explanation.I have been intrigued for some time about feeding a vcr analogue signal into my pc.These 'dongles' that i keep hearing about are the results good?What sort of spec do you need PC wise for satisfactory results?i take it this is how some vcr's clips are put onto Youtube?

As for our transmitter,we lost the analogue for good on November 11th last year from the Talcneston(sepll) transmitter.

............Kevin

Bill
Wednesday 15th February 2012
12:00 pm U.K.

electravibe10@gmail.com

Hi Kevin,

I just noticed that I wrote a bit of ungrammatical gobbledegook which might give the impression that I run the Freeview boxes into computer and upscaler rather than the machines themselves! I do in fact run Freeview (and Sky) directly into the computers via a dongle for display or digital recording, but that's a completely different thing. What I'm talking about is Freeview into Betas or VHS or DVR and THEIR output to TV direct or via upscaler. No computers involved!

Apologies, Bill.

Bill
Wednesday 15th February 2012
10:56 am U.K.

electravibe10@gmail.com

Hi Kevin,

Like you seem to be saying, I too have mixed feelings about the RF tuners on our machines becoming irrelevant because of the digital revolution. After all they ARE fundamental parts, and I do have the instinctive feeling that the machines are very important technological history artifacts as well as working devices, and that as such they should be kept complete and working. There's a bit of a parallel with the TV history enthusiasts who use standards converters - often home made - to keep 405 line or even earlier technology alive.

Having said all that, I agree with you 100% about the excellent results from using digital terrestrial tuners with Beta machines. I've bestowed Freeview "boxes" (don't like the term) on my Beta and S-VHS machines and my aging DVD recorder. None of them cost more than thirty quid. The machine that performs best is my SLHF950 - surprise surprise! I also run them into two computers via video capture dongles. I'm now starting to give them HDMI 1080p upscalers for direct connection to an HD TV. They're rather more expensive, so it'll take a just a bit longer!

Where you are, do you get your reception from Sudbury? If so, is it true that they have already switched off analogue?

All the best, Bill

K Lambert
Wednesday 8th February 2012
1:34 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Bill:

I must admit to not being too clued up n the tuner side or storage memories.The Sanyo VTC M30 was different from their other Beta's models in that all their range had the tiny thumb wheels that held the frequency as they were placed/pushed in the right position.The M30 was different in that it did have one thumb wheel to tune (unlike Sony's totally digital auto tuners on later models as your HF100 is)but it stored the channels in it's memory that, i can only assume, is stored inside the chip for this purpose.That's why the memory does'nt disappear over time?Whatever system they used after all this time was amazing especially as they still do the job nicely now ( not that the tuner will be used at all anymore sadly).Another thing worthy of mention too is how much BETTER the recordings are using the digital Freeview boxes joined to the phono/BNC connections.They definetely surpass the analogues ones ,which were'nt that bad to start with.

.........................Kevin

Bill
Wednesday 8th February 2012
3:57 am U.K.

electravibe10@gmail.com

Hi Kevin,

Yes, you've jogged what's left of my memory. My first VCR back around 1982 was a Toshiba Beta, an enormous thing built like a tank. It had these thumb wheels - eight I think. Would they each have controlled variable tuning capacitors or some such thing? Where you do have non-mechanical tuning, it must be VERY light on batteries or my SLHF100 couldn't have kept its tuning for four years of disuse. Is there some sort of similarity to the way a computer handles its CMOS? Have you changed the battery on your computer's motherboard within living memory? Neither have I!!

All the best, Bill

Chris Margrave-Gregory
Tuesday 7th February 2012
11:23 am U.K.

chris@thameside.tv

Hi I am currently looking for a 2" machine that plays back "PAL M"

I believe its a RCA TR600 or a RCA TR70. The 2" machine must play back PAL M, Please let me know if you have anything available to help.

Kind RegardsChris

K Lambert
Monday 6th February 2012
10:25 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi james:

No problem.

The Toshiba V33. I remember that.I had the V31b and picture wise it's great but head wear and struggling in FF and REW notoriously bad.The belts will all need changing, that's why you have that problem..I have a set or two of those.

.......Kevin

Roderick
Monday 6th February 2012
9:42 pm U.K.

nospam@palsite.com

Any chance we could get the posts sorted so that the newest are at the top?Used to be that way until the rebuild of the forum to stop spam.Many thanks

James
Monday 6th February 2012
7:44 pm U.K.

jimmywatson@fsmail.net

Thanx for the email Kevin, well it seems i have another to relinquish to the betamax pile up room, lol well maybe not I have a Toshiba V-33B and it works ok when i prompt the drive to take the tape round. So I have to manually move it round then its fine, lol not sure how long i can put up with that though.

K Lambert
Monday 6th February 2012
1:37 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Bill

No problem.

As for the tuner memories.I know the Sanyo VTC M30 stored it's channels using one thumb wheel over digital (as per later Sony's) to 'tune them in'.I would imagine they utalise a small high capacity long lasting battery either hard wired or ,in later vcr's, a button cell that's easily replaceable.Hope this helps.............Kevin

Bill
Sunday 5th February 2012
12:53 pm U.K.

electravibe10@gmail.com

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the courier info. You'll get it very shortly, sorry to muck you about.

Just airing my ignorance yet again with another question generated by my SLHF100 having kept its channel memory for nearly four years of disuse: How DO these machines keep their channel info, long before any high-capacity solid-state non-volatile memory was generally available? I've got a 7" dual standard Panasonic colour TV/monitor dating from 1985 which still works perfectly EXCEPT for having lost its channel memory and refusing to accept anything more. I've now established that it may be due to an ancient expired button battery on the main board. I'm going to replace it and see what happens. Did any Betas ever use such a system? If not, how did they do it?

All the best, Bill

Roderick
Saturday 4th February 2012
8:27 pm U.K.

nospam@palsite.com

The video connectors on Betamax machines are called BNC.Most electronic stores sell BNC - RCA adapters fro a couple of dollars.

DINKINS
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:39 am U.K.

graphic_center@pandora.be

Keep up the great work!,

FORBES
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:28 am U.K.

urso@netvision.net.il

Thank you very much for the best value in the Barter/Trade industry.,

CADWELL
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:17 am U.K.

astregon@tds.net

Looking for great new deals on trade.,

MORROW
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:06 am U.K.

art.rose@sympatico.ca

Thanks again for providing the information! It was a big help!,

etep70
Saturday 4th February 2012
3:24 am U.K.

etep70@msn.com

I have just picked up a sony betamax SL-800ME. I didn't get any A/V cords with it and don't know what the type used is called. Trying to find a cord to go from the beta to an RCA. Anyone help with what type of connection in on this model? It kind of looks like a coax connection, but has a tab on the top and bottom of the plug.Thanks for any help I can get.

ami
Friday 3rd February 2012
8:03 pm U.K.

wysecom@hotmail.com

one more thing... i tested that. I put cassette in and "play lit", player loads tape and there's resistance in head drum while player start playing the tape. Head drum start spinning. While there's no play lit, head drum spins freely without resistance.

Play, record, rewind and forward - also play fast forward stops after few seconds. Only slow play continues longer normally. Hmm, is it easier to sell that player...

ami
Friday 3rd February 2012
7:11 pm U.K.

wysecom@hotmail.com

i opened the top cover and left head drum spins okay. I can see the picture few seconds. Player worked okay for 20 cassettes but now it started stopping. It stopped few times before those 20 cassettes. Also 'cooling down' seems to help little bit. I tried to clean that hal sensor.

Do you know would this sl-c30 advice help: "Stops in play, record and reverse/forward windDo not confuse this with the above symptoms. The problem in this case is due to lack of 4.43MHz colour sub-carrier reference in the servo circuit. This in turn is normally caused by failure of silicon fuse PS1 on the YC-25 board."

K Lambert
Friday 3rd February 2012
3:57 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Ami:Sounds like it the 'hall effect' sensor.One way to know for sure.Remove the top cover.Insert a tape,initiate play and then whilst the play light is lit try to turn the disc at the top of the head drum left or right.If you feel resistance only WHEN the PLAY light is lit then it's defenetley the 'hall effect' sensor.Good luck...............Kevin

ami
Friday 3rd February 2012
12:27 pm U.K.

wysecom@hotmail.com

Hello, I have Sony SL-C9e player and it stops after few seconds. Also same happens when fast rewinding or forwarding. Is this same "hall effect sensor" -problem or would there some easier solution to fix it ?

DAVID BRUNNER
Thursday 2nd February 2012
4:55 pm U.K.

DAVIDBRUNNERPICAZARRI@YAHOO.ES

Noel if I switch off and on or I eject and enter the tape dissapear the problem, but if I pulse pause in play sometimes occurs again

nick kilen
Thursday 2nd February 2012
8:03 am U.K.

n_kilen@hotmail.com

hi everyone came across this site thought its exactly what was looking for i got between 50-75 beta videos. that also ranage for shirly temple to the stooges to superman all in great shape and most in origanal box even. lots of disney and other kid ones, japan anami, along with few other forien (to me at least lol). e-mail me if anyone wants more info, wants to buy some at n_kilen@hotmail.com Have a nice day!:-)

Noel Higgins
Thursday 2nd February 2012
2:39 am U.K.

Noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Interesting how the message got changed. Maybe a spell check thing.

Noel Higgins
Thursday 2nd February 2012
2:37 am U.K.

Noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

David,The problem with your F30 is probably due to the microprocessor that controls the machine seeing a condition which it does not expect and hence locking up. Powering the machine off and on puts it through a startup cycle and if the sensors detect the tape, conditions etc are OK then it will accept control instructions again.

Bill,

I like the Sony machines better because of. How advanced tenor designs were getting away from rubber belts. Whilst they are more complex and plastic becomes hard eventually and can break, oknce these 3GS old machines get a thorough service and the gears that can break are pinned or otherwise strengthened then they are good for many more years. A plus for Sony is that you can still get new HiFi heads whereas Sanyo suppllies ran out in the 90stoshibas are the other belt driven brand but they have reel motor noise and torque issues so I prefer Sanyo over them

Cheers Noel

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