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Koen
Sunday 22nd February 2015
12:18 pm U.K.

hopla84@yahoo.co.uk

Thanks Noel (and Kevin), I'll check it out. :-)

Noel Higgins
Sunday 22nd February 2015
12:13 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.au

Kevin,

On the SLHF100 there can be HiFi record and playback issues unrelated to the tuner board. In Australia we had the dual stereo FM carrier TV system like East Germany. I believe you had Nicam.

It is not an issue now because analogue transmissions have ceased.

I don't repair SL3000 machines so that is why I have not responded to the post. I would say however that he should check that the tape pickup reel is collecting the tape because a slack tape if the usual thing that stops a machine like that. It sounds like belt or rubber wheel grip issue. Look at typical faults in the SLC5 and SLC7 for guidance as they use a similar design.

cheers Noel

K Lambert
Saturday 21st February 2015
2:29 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Noel:

What you are saying then is some of the 'stereo issues' for the HF100 stems from the tuner board?

If so interesting.

I've recently sorted on HF100 out that had a over saturated hi-Fi right channel during playback and under saturated during recording. The issue two transistors going leaky under the metal heat sink on the Hi-Fi board. Never seen that before.

I also have two other Hf100 's with no Hi-Fi playback and with good Hi-Fi heads.

I have also come across another couple of HF100 's with no colour during recording only. Ever seen that issue?

On the same machine the tape take up servo went high (like in picture search) during playback.

As for the setting of the head/capstan servo you can tell when it's spot on by going from or to playback or search modes, as the immediate playback image should lock solid.

The Sony issues certainly test your dedication, that's for sure.

Koen:

I think Noel would be your best bet for solution there as I've never come across or worked on that model.

....Kevin

Koen
Saturday 21st February 2015
5:26 am U.K.

hopla84@yahoo.co.uk

Hi everyone

I'm new here. Since my native Belgium doesn't seem to offer a Beta site as extensive as this one, I've been looking up stuff here over the past couple of months - I'm into copying video tapes and am starting to look into 'other' systems, having myself limited to VHS until now. I have a problem and I thought there might be a few people here who would be willing to give some advice.

I recently acquired an SL 3000. The seller - someone more technically minded than I am - told me he had renewed the belts. The machine was demonstrated to me and it worked. It still worked fine when I tested it myself once I got home - I let it play for about ten minutes.

Fast forward two weeks without having used the recorder... and it no longer works. It powers up OK and brings the tape around the drum, FF and rewind work... but playing tapes doesn't. I have tested this a few times and as a rule of thumb the machine will play for a few seconds just after it has been powered on. Then it stops. After that, pūshing 'play' results in nothing at all. I have of course tried this with several tapes/brands.

The most obvious thing I can think of would be that there are some capacitators that need replacing (something I've never done before... but perhaps this'll have to be the first time). This site suggests checking the tantalum capacitators in the servo circuit.

Google tells me what such a capacitator looks like, but it probably can't indicate where exactly the servo circuit is located. I've taken a look inside the recorder and it's filled to the brim with capacitators, so if someone who knows this model well could tell me where to look for those capacitators, that would be a nice start.

I have tried powering on the machine for a few hours before attempting playback, as I'd read that sometimes helps problematic caps to come back to life. No luck. Belts look good.

Obviously, I'd welcome *any* advice (including 'it's not the caps at all, mate!'). As I said, my technical knowledge is really rather limited

Koen
Saturday 21st February 2015
5:25 am U.K.

hopla84@yahoo.co.uk

(Continuing with another post - word count appears to be limited.)

Here's a short phone video of the recorder (with the lid off) loading a tape and then me pushing the play button. Sorry for the shaky start, pushing a heavy button with one hand while holding your phone in the other proved more difficult than I had imagined!

I should also add that the gears and non-belt rubber look like they are in great shape. The capstan roller is not shiny at all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAt7hYM4lmg&feature=youtu.be

Noel Higgins
Saturday 21st February 2015
5:18 am U.K.

Noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Kevin,

I assume you use a CRO for capstan and drum alignment because then you can redo a factory setup.

However if a CRO is not available then picking the centre point of adjustment between the high an low out of lock points works OK. Most people are only after playback machines now so that simplifies the number of checks you need to do as the odd tuner fault (e.g. SLHF100 stereo issues) are not a problem.

Yes, some are asking high prices considering they don't overhaul or guarantee the machines. I guess it's a case of buyer beware as with all eBay sales. Personally I am happy when I see some one able to relive their family memories through being able to view their old tapes again.

Cheers Noel

K Lambert
Friday 20th February 2015
1:33 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Noel:

I also do this as a hobby and not business. I just find it a bit sad so many of these vcr's are in a poor shape now.Some just needing a good service and overhaul.

I also was (and still am ) passionate about the format too.

Interesting findings you have there.

I judge by sight and sound. When you have the experience and know what you see and hear for the respective models that goes a long way too. We just approach the solution at different angles.

Needless to say I am very particular with my results and ensure all the ones I've worked on are at their peak.

I still see a few Sony's with the failed hall effect sensor to the head drum and have had to use faulty capstan units to service these.

The glue is removed from any I see before they go wrong.

I also now see so many offering beta units on e-Bay for very high prices, some even with faults!!!!!!!!!!

I know we ask what we do as the ones we offer are now in perfect order and certainly worthy of use without calamity.

...Kevin

Noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au
Friday 20th February 2015
6:57 am U.K.

noelmh@

Kevin,

I am interested in your comments about comparative video bandwidths between models I am also basing my comments on many years of experience though unlike yourself fixing these was not my "real job" just a hobby. That said I have invented many fixes for problems that are stopping these ageing machines.

I have also developed special test tapes with both stereo HiFi and stereo linear tracks swept over the frequency range 100Hz to 10kHz at 25 times a second to match up with the A&B head waveforms monitored on a CRO at the same time. Only the SLO1700 and SLHF100P can make these tapes.

This cuts down the time to realign the machine because interaction between audio and video during adjustment is seen and optimised immediately. I think the Sony linear stereo machines are a bit harder to align. Sanyo, Toshiba and Sony mono machines are pretty easy.

What I have noticed is that the Sanyo VTC6500 for example has a base boosted response compared to the Sony which when properly aligned is flat just dropping of above 8kHz I have also noticed that linear stereo concept has fundamental design issues in the sense that when a stereo tape is played back on a mono machine, unless it is perfectly aligned compared to the source machine, at certain frequencies the magnetic domains of the left and right channels subtract and cancel out. This is only obvious when the same content appears on both channels but HiFi does my jot and cannot suffer this issue.

Actually it is a handy characteristic because the nulls give a very clear indication that the mono head is not vertical to the tape. You just have to sure the video path is correct by observing the video head exit pattern squareness then adjust the audio head exit guide to touch without wrinkling the tape including froward and reverse search modes then do the azimuth adjustment.

By the way, I sell these three hour test tapes if anyone is interested.

Regards Noel

K Lambert
Wednesday 18th February 2015
9:42 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Reliability wise I would say the Sanyo's fare better so long as the rubber items are refreshed every few years and they are properly overhauled.

Sony's tend to suffer with sensors, transistors and wear to reel motor bearings plus plastic gears/components. NOT all are though.

The average bandwidth to a Sony is 2.5 MHz (picture sharpness).This will be higher on the Super beta pro mode with the correct tape.

Sanyo's bandwidth result range from 1.8 (M10,20) to 2.0 for their 6500,5000 ,then 2.2 for the NX100 and best of all 2.8 for the M40.

Mono edge track sound tend to favours the Sanyo's with less background tape hiss but the azimuth and output levels tend to benefit now from a check.

The Sonys have the advantage of a Hi-Lo tone for their mono edge track later vcr's but they too benefit from a alignment check as well.

All these remarks are from many years working and overhauling these classic machines, not hearsay and are applicable to the UK model line up.

So there you go.It should help you decide on what your needs are.

Good luck too............Kevin

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 18th February 2015
8:02 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.au

Joe and Kevin,

Remember some models are top loading so mounting them in a modern equipment cabinet is an issue. Sanyos are quite reliable except for issues with belts over time. I favour them over Toshibas because they seem to have head wear and electrical noise issues from worn reel motors. I like Sony overall and I don't think head wear from rewinding is so much of an issue but I agree with Kevins comments about Heads on HiFi machines. I still have new heads for the Sony machines (except SLHF950 ) but Sanyo HiFi heads have not been available since the the late 1990s.

I forgot one really good top load mono machine and the is the Sony F1.

It was an early portable unit and can run of DC or batteries. I expect that most of these have had little use compared to most VCRs with tuners as their main application was recording from a camera though a tuner/power supply option was provided.

They include top of the range features such as the SLC9 direct real motor drives and indicate real time tape positionat least to the nearest 10 seconds.

They make a good Beta to DVD conversion unit if you do not need stereo.

regards Noel

K Lambert
Wednesday 18th February 2015
3:58 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Joe: (and other potential Beta vcr's purchasers)

Another way of avoiding giving yourself a headache when deciding what beta format vcr to go for is, what features will you need or want?

That question should help to limit your choice.

Good solid basic models to consider are Sanyo: VTC 5000, 5150,M10 ,NX100. Sony C20, SL25.

Mid range with remotes (infra red).Sanyo VTC 6500, M20,M30(trick frame features).Sony SLF30 .SLC30, SLC40 (linear stereo) SLC9 (trick frame features ,Linear stereo)

Beta Hi-Fi models Sanyo :VTC M40. Sony :SLHF100, SLHF950 (Super beta),SL1700(linear stereo/Beta Hi-Fi ,no tuner).

All the Sanyo's listed unlace for the fast wind modes saving wear to the heads /tape and mechanism. The Sony SL1700 unlaces too which is unique for a Sony.

K Lambert
Wednesday 18th February 2015
12:56 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Also............. Try and get proof that the heads are in good shape before you buy as well. Those are getting harder if not impossible to obtain for the high end models now, but do last well if looked after and have had no head cleaners on them or bad attempts to clean them.

.................Kevin

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 18th February 2015
11:15 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.au

Joe, (with apologies to Kevin- as I agree with his comments about differing opinions)

I only included Sony designs because of the features and my familiarity with them. Sanyo VTC M40 and VTC M50 are two HiFi machines worthy of consideration though they lack real time counters, linear stereo and APS options.

regards Noel

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 18th February 2015
11:10 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.au

Joe,

You asked what are the top 5 betamax players and i presume you mean Pal machines and you also want stereo HiFi. If you want to cover both HiFi and linear stereo options then you start with SLO1700 which also has the best drive system - (uses the SLC9 direct drive )

So

SLHF950 (has everything except linear stereo) inlcudes APS

SLO1700 (no tuner or time readout counter but has best audio options

SLHF100P (lower featured version of SLO1700 based on SLHF100 design- no tuner)

SLHF100

SLHF150

Without HiFi stereo no contest - SLC9 - includes APS

Happy hunting.

regards Noel (betaheaven.com)

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 18th February 2015
11:01 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.au

Martin,

Thanks for the new chatpage it looks good. I agree with the others newest post at the top works best for me.

regards Noel

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 18th February 2015
10:57 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.au

Jamie,

The "E" represents the European market.

regards Noel (betaheaven.com in Australia)

Nik
Monday 16th February 2015
4:54 pm U.K.

yuenkinman@live.nl

Hi Lambert,

I also suspect it is the caps on board M inside the powerblock. Hope it didn“t chainreact on other parts.

Thnx for your info, I'll have a technician to measure out / check on that.

K Lambert
Monday 16th February 2015
12:10 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Nik

I would check all capacitors in the PSU and also voltages.

Sony's are well know for having quite a few electrolytic ones going high ESR and blowing out transistors and fusible resistors.

..Kevin

NIk
Sunday 15th February 2015
8:13 pm U.K.

yuenkinman@live.nl

Hi, I would like to have some guidance to a technical problem with my TT -F1E unit.

I recently aquired it and it works fine except the fluorecent display.

So I opened it up looked at the 3.15A 250V fuse, seems kinda old so I replaced it with a fresh one. Then when I powered it up again for a few seconds the standby and batcharge leds went on at front panel. Aftewards only the green standby led is slightly blinking and I can hear a ticking noise near the powerblock.

I checked the fuses on FF-1 and DA-3 board, but they are intact. Furthermore I did a visual check on the boards and the powerblock (M board) but everything seems to be intact, no burns or bursts.

Does this sound familliar to anyone? I'm not a technician, though I tried to gather much info as possible from the service manual.

Martin
Tuesday 10th February 2015
8:16 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

Joe, the PALsite thumbnail gallery would be a good place to start your search:

http://www.palsite.com/thumb.html

I would also suggest you take a look at all of the HiFi models available, the models page shows these in green:

http://www.palsite.com/models.html

K Lambert
Tuesday 10th February 2015
8:01 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Joe:

I think you'll find there will be a different and justified opinion from most here.

The best thing to do is try and see the results from each vcr for yourself.

Naturally the top end Beta's will have a better performance than the lower ones, but they will be over complex and have more opportunity to have issues due to their complexity.

Good luck with your venture and most importantly .....enjoy the experience.

..Kevin

Hellwyn Ballard
Monday 9th February 2015
9:14 pm U.K.

ibex_t@hotmail.com

Jay, I've used the Datavideo TBC-1000 with mixed results. Yes, it can help stabalize the picture, and stops audio dropout when the picture flickers - but on mine it also clips the whites, so whites appear a little more bleached out than on the original tape. It's annoying! :( I try not to use it.

I bought a second one, as I thought mine was faulty, and it was actually even worse for doing it.

I had one imported from US and one I got in UK, both off eBay. They come up fairly regularly for about £100-£150 GBP.

joe
Monday 9th February 2015
4:11 pm U.K.

jcvfabogado@gmail.com

Top 5 betamax players?

Hello, i want to buy a good betamax player but i dont know what to buy

I know the SL-HF950 is probably de best betamax pal player ever made but is difficult to find for a good value so i want to know the top 5 of best betamax player to buy one.

Jay Robert Morris
Saturday 7th February 2015
2:17 am U.K.

trebor28@tpg.com.au

i should have said; I'm in Australia.

Jay Robert Morris
Saturday 7th February 2015
2:15 am U.K.

trebor28@tpg.com.au

Can anyone recommend a good time base corrector for archiving my Betamax collection?

Noel did a great job on fixing my HF-950 ; and I just want to make sure the signals as good as I can get it.

I'm also interested in peoples opinions on the need to clean older tapes before playing.

Thanks all.

Zac Matthews
Friday 6th February 2015
9:12 pm U.K.

zac_m@hotmail.co.uk

I couldn't get it to tune in using the aerial output so I'm using the standard video output to connect it with the tv. I will run a tape through and let you know if it helps, thanks.

Roderick
Friday 6th February 2015
8:41 pm U.K.

nospam@chatpage.co.uk

Zac, does the television show an image when you do not play a tape but use the tuner of the recorder to receive signal?

If that gives you an image, it could be that the video heads are dirty. Safest way to clean heads is to play a know good tape for an extended period. Just let it run for an hour or two and see what happens.

If you don't get a picture from the recorder tuner then there is a problem with the cable between the recorder and the television.

Zac Matthews
Friday 6th February 2015
4:16 pm U.K.

zac_m@hotmail.co.uk

I have a Sanyo VTC 9300 and I can't get it to display video. I have the correct video and audio cables but when I plug it into my TV it only plays the sound, it does seem to play the tape fine as the audio is at the correct speed but no video. Any suggestions?

Martin
Friday 6th February 2015
9:30 am U.K.

martin@palsite.com

I have added a new "Show newest posts first" link.

Just remember to update your bookmark.

Martin
Thursday 5th February 2015
9:58 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

I think the reason I swapped it was because we now have prev and next buttons to see all of the old posts. So it might get a bit confusing?

Martin
Thursday 5th February 2015
9:56 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

To be honest, I wasn't sure which way up people preferred. If you bookmark the following link it should take you to the bottom of this page.

http://www.palsite.com/chat_page.py#bottom

Personally I think the newest at the top works best. I'm happy to change it. Keep the suggestions coming in.

Roderick
Thursday 5th February 2015
9:04 pm U.K.

nospam@chatpage.co.uk

Well done, one small note, new posts are now at the bottom of the page instead of on the top as it used to be. Means that you have to scroll down to the end to see if there are any new posts.

I would prefer to have new posts at the top, is that possible?

K Lambert
Thursday 5th February 2015
1:46 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

I second that NICE JOB..VERY nice:)

....Kevin

Martin
Thursday 5th February 2015
8:26 am U.K.

martin@palsite.com

Welcome to the new chat page!

Please let me know if there are any problems.

All posts on the old system are now being deleted.

K Lambert
Wednesday 4th February 2015
11:23 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hellwyn:

Not a problem.

The fact is though 99% of these classic vcr's DO need this and belt's/new rubber can go a little way to sorting most common issues out.

Good luck with whatever you do though.

....Kev

Hellwyn Ballard
Wednesday 4th February 2015
8:43 am U.K.

ibex_t@nospamhotmail.com

Thanks for the offer Kevin but I don't really wanna spend too much on this machine. I have several other (much better!) machines and picked this one up just to get hold of the tapes that came with it. Was just thinking if I can get it working, hopefully it'd play any dodgy tapes it recorded back with more accuracy than my other machines.

Martin
Wednesday 4th February 2015
8:19 am U.K.

martin@palsite.com

Hi Richard, you might have inadvertently tripped the automated spam removal system when posting, especially if you see your post, but then see it vanish soon afterwards.

K Lambert
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
11:47 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hi Hellwyn:

The reason I ask is I do refurbs to Beta's (and vhs) vcr's and would be happy to give this a good going over for you, if you are willing to post it out?That is up to you.I believe most of those belt's and that idler tyre is a bit tricky to get to without removing the cassette insertion mechanism.

Hope this helps.............Kevin

Hellwyn Ballard
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
11:30 pm U.K.

ibex_t@nospamhotmail.com

Hi Kevin - I'm in giddy London. Would rubbing those wheels still involve a complicated dismantle?

Jamie
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
11:20 pm U.K.

jlovas85@live.com

You can all isregard my last post. I've been to the palsite model list countless times but never noticed it shows the meanings of the letters there...der!

Jamie
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
8:32 pm U.K.

jlovas85@live.com

Hi, I am in Australia and have recently picked up an SLHF100E in perfect working order (even all the UV meter Leds working). Just curious as to which country the E model was from. I'm used to seeing the AS Model but not the E.Thanks

Richard Key
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
6:33 pm U.K.

rgh.key@gmail.com

Hello all,I have been having some issues posting today so I hope this shows up in the chat thread.There is a few questions I would like to ask. Firstly, ask in my previous post I am still on the look out for a Betamax recorder with stereo sound output (Preferably HiFi but no essential)so if anyone is selling one please, please let me know, I have around £175-£ 200 to spend. Secondly I am currently servicing my Sanyo VTC-5000, it is a great performer, but, like all Sanyo's the rubber tyre on the reel mechanism is starting to perish and crack, it still works but there is an annoying rumble as the cracked tyre drives the reels, does anyone know the dimensions for this tyre i.e. inside diameter, outside diameter and thickness in mm. I know that you cant get replacements anymore so I am looking for a direct replacement.

K Lambert
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
1:36 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hellwyn:

Sometimes the rubber tyres just need refreshing with a fine grade of wet and dry paper. If the rubber is very hard ,stretched or cracked then replacement is the only way to go there.The inner pulley grooves also benefit with a slight abrasive to help the belt's to grip better.Where about's are you?

.........kevin

Hellwyn Ballard
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
8:32 am U.K.

ibex_t@nospamhotmail.com

Thanks Noel. Where would I find a kit? Are there any disassembly instructions anywhere? I wouldn't know where to begin really!

Noel Higgins
Tuesday 3rd February 2015
4:43 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Hellwyn,

It needs a new belt kit fitted. The main problem for that is a rubber wheel on the right hand side of the machine. Changing belts is a bit tricky. You have to remove the load mechanism to do it and also take it apart somewhat to change them.Just take pictures so you can see how it goes back together.

cheers Noel

Denis Gonzalez
Monday 2nd February 2015
10:18 pm U.K.

gonzalezdenis@yahoo.com

it's a Toshiba V-S36C

Hellwyn Ballard
Monday 2nd February 2015
10:13 pm U.K.

ibex_t@hotmail.com

Hi Kevin - not it doesn't accept the tape at all, as if the power's off. BTW it's the MkII C6.

K Lambert
Monday 2nd February 2015
10:01 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Hellwyn:

Does it accept the tape and then eject it when trying to get it to play?

Dennis:What mode Toshiba is it?they are renound for excessive head wear and also the upper drum, plus worn stretched drive belt's.The 'warm up' could be high esr capacitors in the PSU.

....................Kevin

Hellwyn Ballard
Monday 2nd February 2015
8:21 pm U.K.

ibex_t@hotmail.com

I have a Sony SL-C6UB that powers up but won't load tapes. Is this an easy/cheap fix? Any how-to guides? I see the problem & solution listed for a few similar models on Palsite, but not specifically for the C6. Thanks!

Denis Gonzalez
Monday 2nd February 2015
5:45 pm U.K.

gonzalezdenis@yahoo.com

I have a Toshiba Betamax that still plays although it now seems to need about 5 minutes of "warm up" running time before the picture finally comes on the screen (after this a newly inserted tape will play immediately)...doesn't seem to want to fastforward/rewind anymore (I have a separate rewind machine for just this purpose, and to save on the motor) although this too might be a matter of letting it run for a long time...anyone have any suggestions on how to bring the machine back up to normal working status?

Noel Higgins
Sunday 1st February 2015
2:26 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Thanks for the great work with chat page guys.

K Lambert
Saturday 31st January 2015
10:25 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Martin:

Thanks for your efforts. Interesting too how ONLY the Betamax page is affected.looking forward to the new set up:)

Richard.I currently have a HF100 that has been fully refurbished with great hi-Fi and remote but unfortunately £175.00 will not cover the amount I'm asking for a Beta hi-Fi model, that is complete and with guarantee high quality leads,manual (copy or original) and remote.the reasons are, most beta's you will see now are in a poor state due to rough treatment and not being serviced regularly. The Sony's in particular suffer from very time consuming faults and issues and getting ones with good Hi-Fi is proving a challenge nowerdays.The C9 too can be full of issues and they all need a good refurb now as they will start to play up if not.A lot are faulty and some have missing tuner/timer covers.Sorry to be blunt but I see and work on many.I wish you luck in your search and feel free to e-mail me for any further advice or help.

.....Kevin

Richard Key
Saturday 31st January 2015
2:37 pm U.K.

rgh.key@gmail.com

Hello, I am based in Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire. I own a Sanyo VTC5000 and Sony SL-F25 I realliy like the players I have got, but, I am wanting to get a more advanced Betmax Player preferably something with Stereo HiFi sound like the SL-HF100 or failing the the SL-C9 (I know the C9 is only stereo but I like the look of it) is anyone currently selling one of these models I am looking to spend aroun £175 MAX

Please contact me if you have anything for me.

Martin
Saturday 31st January 2015
12:57 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

As stated before, best to use the PALsite link:

http://www.palsite.com/chat_page.py?Betamax

Martin
Saturday 31st January 2015
12:57 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

Russia certainly likes doing spam. Over 17 thousand on one day. Roll on the new system....coming soon I promise.

Martin
Wednesday 28th January 2015
12:57 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

Hi, I have just tweaked PALsite's copy of the chat page feed. You should see a LOT less spam if you use that instead of the main page.

http://www.palsite.com/chat_page.py?site=Betamax

I am planning to move to just using this feed for the Betamax page. A full (and searchable) chat page archive is also in the works.

Martin

Noel Higgins
Tuesday 27th January 2015
10:22 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Derek,

I can help you with some spares for your machines if the postage costs are not too high.

See betaheaven.com

regards Noel

K Lambert
Tuesday 20th January 2015
10:20 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Rumen:

From your description it sounds like you have solenoid issues for the pinch roller and maybe eject mechanism and also the forward tension is maybe too high,back tension too severe or the pinch roller needs replacing,causing your damaged tapes.

.Kevin

Derek A
Wednesday 14th January 2015
12:53 pm U.K.

datatag@gmail.com

Hi Kev

I've bought some "new, old stock" parts already (including and idler & pinch-rollers) just in case, and I'm keeping my eyes peeled for any other bits including machines for "scrap". I now have over 150 tapes which I'm slowly archiving and indexing - which is definitely a labour of love...! At least once I've got them transferred to PC I can skip through them digitally to archive the content, rather than having to play and use search (thereby wearing my machines out even more!). Derek.

K Lambert
Tuesday 13th January 2015
1:13 am U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

DerekA:

You will have to search long and hard.Most genuine parts will be new old stock.You can still obtain belt's and some parts are around usually owned by those getting out of the repair business on E-bay.

Good luck...........Kev

Derek A
Saturday 10th January 2015
12:43 pm U.K.

datatag@gmail.com

Hi I'm in the UK (Cumbria) and now have 5 working Betamax machines including a couple of Sony SL-HF100s, a couple of Sony SL-F1UBs (with TT -F1 Tuner/Timers and HVC-2000 and HVC-4000 cameras) and a Sanyo VTC-9300P. I've had the VTC-9300P since the late 80s but the others are recent acquisitions that have all required work - including full PSU overhauls for the TT-F1s amongst other things!! Once I get sorted, I'll post details of the repairs I've had to do to get these up and running. The SL-HF100s both have faulty VU meters so I'm thinking of designing a replacement for these, but I'm also looking at sources of spares. I need a clock timer display for one of the TT-F1s as the vacuum pip was smashed off mine in transit, plus are video heads, belts, idlers etc still available? Any help or advice welcome!!

Derek.

Matt
Thursday 8th January 2015
3:01 pm U.K.

matthew_churchett@hotmail.com

Hi guys, I've got a VTC5000 Sanyo Betamax player for sale. It originally came from Kev in 2010 and it's worked flawlessly for me ever since. I've even lent it out to people to copy their tapes.

Only looking to sell because I need the cash. Offers around £120

K Lambert
Wednesday 7th January 2015
4:45 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Jeff:

I have e-mailed you regarding the Sanyo parts.

.....Kev

jeffoldbean
Wednesday 7th January 2015
1:35 pm U.K.

jeff0ldbean@btinternet.com

Hi kevin having taken a closer look of the piccys, on the F30 page.The transport mech seems to be the same.That Left gear is intact.The "Tray"that the cassette sits on was Slightly out of square.I adjusted it by taking of that Left hand gear and moving the tray into the right Posn.Then put back the gear.The tape know loads into the machine OK.But there this delay before the threading starts.

jeffoldbean.

K Lambert
Wednesday 7th January 2015
1:24 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Jeff;Whatever you do DON'T open the side cover to the geared tape insertion mechanism.It takes some time to get the alignment right if you put it out.TRUST ME.

I have never seen inside the F25 so don't know if it's the same as an F30 or C30. I would vere towards the F30. The tape loading would be identical I would think.

.....Kev

jeffoldbean
Wednesday 7th January 2015
1:18 pm U.K.

jeff0ldbean@btinternet.com

Hi Kevin I will look into This.I didn't Know about The F30 Piccys.This machine is the SLF-25UB.They have a common Transport.Also I didn't want to take a look inside the gear box.How do you remove the shiny metal top plate.There is a lip on it, that helps to hold the gear box cover on.Which is held with black plastic "sprigs" Lugs?

jeffoldbean.

K Lambert
Wednesday 7th January 2015
1:02 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Jeffoldbean.

AS for your F30 you will need that gear replaced or repaired. The broken tooth is common on that model.That could be why you have the hesitation before loading.

................Kev

jeffoldbean
Wednesday 7th January 2015
1:02 pm U.K.

jeff0ldbean@btinternet.com

Hi Kevin,I live in Leeds "ENGLAND".

jeffoldbean.

K Lambert
Wednesday 7th January 2015
1:00 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Jeffoldbean:

Where abouts are you?

.....Kevin

jeffoldbean
Wednesday 7th January 2015
12:13 pm U.K.

jeff0ldbean@btinternet.com

Whoops!!!! Very sorry Kevin Lambert.Not Keith.

jeffoldbean.

jeffoldbean
Wednesday 7th January 2015
11:43 am U.K.

jeff0ldbean@btinternet.com

Hopefully Keith Lambert. May Know where I can get a set of belts for a Sanyo VTC 5000. Maybe a pinch roller, and a pendulum assy.My friend Who I have stayed with over the holiday period has this machine.It played tapes with good sound and vision.But the one inch main drive belt.Snapped after 28 yrs, say.Hence my post.

jeffoldbean.

jeffoldbean
Wednesday 7th January 2015
11:35 am U.K.

jeff0ldbean@btinternet.com

SL-F25UB sorted out a loading problem.By adjusting the position of the lefthand cogged lever of the Loading mech.It was out by a tooth.Throwing the casstette out of square.However when the tape is in the machine. The Threading Process does'nt start immediatley.Sometimes there is a clicking noise, from the threading clutch assy.Before the thrading motor starts.Any ideas.

jeffoldbean.

K Lambert
Sunday 4th January 2015
9:56 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

David:

The 'bullet noise' you describe i take it is 'drop out'.(Small white horizintal flashes).If it was static noise you would see it all over the screen sporadicly.If it's 'drop out's' then that part of the tape is missing oxide so the vcr tries to cover this up with it's "drop out compensator" and are random flashes.You can slightly adjust these to remove more of the white flash but be careful as if you do it too much the picture can jump at any sign of excessive drop out or be totally obliterated by correctitive compensation.When you deliberatley off track the recording the white noise you see should be thin and not have fold over or comet tailing at all.If the picture jumps when offsetting the tracking control ,it's slightly too much compensation.

As for your comment on the Sony SLHF950. Sony added a plastic oblong stip that touches the top front of the drum and also the cassette housing flap,that was it.

What make of Beta vcr do you have? Some are slightly better at covering up 'drop out's' than other,but you can get them all to do a pretty decent job.If the early tapes you are using are excessively worn ,there is'nt much you can do to make them look perfect.

.................Kev

K Lambert
Sunday 4th January 2015
9:54 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

avid:

The 'bullet noise' you describe i take it is drop ou.(Small white horizintal flashes).If it was static noise you would see it all over the screen sporadicly.If it's drop out's then that part of the tape is missing oxide so the vcr tries to cover this up with it's "drop out compensator" and random.You can slightly adjust these to remove more of the white flash but be careful as if u do it too much the picture can jump at any sign of excessive drop out or be titally obliterated by correctitive compensation.When you deliberatley off track the recording the white noise you see should be thin and not have fold over or comet tailing at all.If the picture jumps when offsetting the tracking control ,it's slightly too much compensation.

As for your comment on the sony SLHF950. Sony added a plastic oblong stip that touches the top front of the drum and also the cassette housing flap,that was it.

What make of Beta vcr do you have.Some are slightly better at covering up 'drop out's' than other,but you can get them all to do a pretty decent job.If the early tapes you are using are excessively worn ,there is'nt much you can do to make them look perfect.

.................Kev

Roderick
Saturday 3rd January 2015
9:08 pm U.K.

nospam@chatpage.co.uk

David, I am not familiar with the static electricity issue you are experiencing but can only assume it may have something to do with friction between the tape and a static object in the machine.My first suggestion would be is to wind and rewind every tape a couple of times and see it that works. Secondly, test that all metal parts in the machine are 'grounded'.And what do you mean by 'bullet' noise?

David van Kemenade
Saturday 3rd January 2015
3:13 pm U.K.

david@van-kemenade.net

Hi everyone,

I am transferring old Betamax tapes (1981-1989). I have noticed a build-up of static electricity while playing back the oldest tapes, leading to excessive bullet noise. Newer tapes don't seem to have this problem. At the beginning of a tape, little bullet noise is visible. As the tape progresses, bullet noise increases.

I have read this is a known issue in the SL-HF950: http://www.palsite.com/950tech.html#static. Sony supplied an earth kit to solve this issue, but it's no longer available. Does anyone have any further information about this so that I can replicate this solution?

As an alternative, would it help to put old tape into a new cassette housing? Newer Betamax tapes from Sony are grey rather than black. Does this help to avoid static build-up?

Many thanks in advance for any help!

Thanks,David

Jamie
Sunday 28th December 2014
10:02 am U.K.

jlovas85@live.com

Hi All,

I have a Sony SLHF100AS which gives a black and white picture. When the fault first started it seemed to occur once the machine warmed up but now is a constant fault. I have tried changing many caps on the YC28 board but seem unable to resolve the issue. Had anybody had the same issue and been able to resolve it? Ive been searching through all the chat page history and seen the topic raised a few times but no responses.

Thanks

Noel Higgins
Friday 26th December 2014
10:17 pm U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Jan,

I am interested in seeing a picture of that machine and what the differences are. I had a few of the M30 machines which have the still slow motion and playback affects like a Sony SLC9. (At least fwd motion)

Please send them to my email address at my website betaheaven.com

regards Noel

Jan Andresen
Thursday 25th December 2014
6:26 pm U.K.

beofreak@live.no

Hi, I don't find the Sanyo VTC-M35 on your page. It looks a lot like the VTC-M20, but with some differences. I got a picture of mine if you want it. This was bought from me in the mid 80's in Norway.Regards Jan Andresen

rodrigo rojas
Thursday 25th December 2014
1:06 am U.K.

smagnetron@hotmail.com

hi good your product, I wanted to ask for help, I'm from chile and I have a Sony Betamax SL-HFT7 have one gear with one of his broken teeth, it is possible that I can get that spare please ... best regards

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 3rd December 2014
7:11 am U.K.

noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

Pete,

See betaheaven.com and contact me for some help with your machine.

Cheers Noel

Fivos
Thursday 27th November 2014
2:38 pm U.K.

fivossakellis@hotmail.com

Sanyo VTC 9350Needs new belts and idler tyres. HELP

Pete Holmes
Thursday 27th November 2014
12:36 pm U.K.

fopetsys@gmail.com

Is this a Betamax site or a political campaign site?

Pete Holmes
Thursday 27th November 2014
9:32 am U.K.

fopetsys@gmail.com

Thanks, Kevin. Unhappily, without a service/repair manual, I have no idea how to find where these are.I searched for a manual but the only site which suggests is available haven't replied to a request for same.

K Lambert
Wednesday 26th November 2014
7:11 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Pete:

Sounds like either the tape loading or lacing switches need adjustment or are faulty.

...............Kevin

Pete Holmes
Wednesday 26th November 2014
6:31 pm U.K.

fopetsys@gmail.com

SONY SL-T50ME "CASETTE INSIDE" lamp blinking.Attempt to eject a non existent cassette prompts several cycles of a belt drive to a small plastic clutch which appears to do nothing?I can see no obstruction broken tape, etc., to cause this fault.Any suggestions as to where the faulty sensor(?) might be?

Matt Quinn
Tuesday 25th November 2014
4:07 pm U.K.

matt@tfgtv.co.uk

Michael, I cannot imagine the lens from a Betamovie will be removeable per se, let alone something an adaptor is available for! - What makes you think this is possible?

Michael From Montanna
Friday 21st November 2014
5:46 pm U.K.

rocksci@roadrunner.com

I would like to remove the primary lens from a Sony BMC-110 (for use as a macro lens on my Olympus Om1/Om2 using an available adapter).

Could someone tell me how to remove this lens?

I will happily reward anyone who can offer a successful means to do so with what remains of the BMC-110, for free - and I'll pay the shipping. This camera is clearly in mint condition. The only requirement I ask is that I am able to use the instructions offered to actually remove the lens. That done, the camera is yours (if you want it).

Thank you in advance for your time and expertise, michael

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 19th November 2014
9:50 pm U.K.

Noelmh@nospam.tpg.com.au

BjornIt would help if you can give your locationCheers Noel

Bjorn
Tuesday 18th November 2014
9:38 pm U.K.

bjorn@bman.me.uk

Good evening, I have been absent from this page for a couple of years now. Concentrating on other things, but am pleased to confirm that I still service Betamax machines. I mainly specialize in Sanyo Betacord machines, but can also do some Sony machines, especially fixing the C9 DC2DC converters which have caused many some difficulties. Anyway, I wont be posting often, but feel free to email with any questions, I still have some schematics. I am however, after another machine is anyone has one they want to sell on.

Guido
Friday 31st October 2014
6:22 pm U.K.

guido.canitano@gmail.com

Hello, my name is Guido and I live in Switzerland. Thank you very much Alan and Martin for the beautiful and useful site you are running! Your work is amazing. I'm sorry for my mistakes, i'm not english mother language.

I am the owner of a Sony Betamax SL-C9 unit which is perfectly working and in excellent conditions, with the original remote control Sony RMT-212. I'm going to sell it.

If you are interested or do you need more informations you can contact me at guido.canitano@gmail.com

Feel free to ask any information. Thank you very much!Guido

Noel
Saturday 25th October 2014
10:41 am U.K.

Noelmh@tpg.nospam.com.au

Hi,

I am trying to find out information on the procedure for setting back tension on a Sony PVW2600P SP betacam machine. Does anyone have a service manual that they could copy that section from?

cheers Noel (normally on the Betamax page.)

mark
Friday 10th October 2014
11:43 am U.K.

mark@beta.com

That's good news Erik, I'm pleased for you. Your Tech did well.

ERIK
Friday 10th October 2014
8:29 am U.K.

vaccastracca@tin.it

I am thrilled to announce that my beloved SL-HF150 finally came back to life! :-)It was indeed the STK5443.The ones my tech tried on were used and probably faulty as well. As soon as he put in the n.o.s. one i got on ebay the machine worked again!I want to thank everybody for the support! :-)

Roderick
Sunday 5th October 2014
8:28 pm U.K.

nospam@palsite.com.au

Starfish, try Jaycar.

Koalabear, it could simply be that your heads are clogged. Easiest solution is to find a good quality tape and let it play for an hour or so. Pretty good chance video will return. Don't use a cleaning tape, they do more harm than good.PS, a koala isn't a bear ;)

K Lambert
Saturday 4th October 2014
8:39 pm U.K.

kn2000@talktalk.net

Koalabear:

Also a common issue with the Hf100 is a breaking of the solder around the BNC socket where it connects to the circuit board.Move this socket up and down gently with your output wire connected and see if a picture appears.

......Kevin

jeffoldbean
Saturday 4th October 2014
12:44 pm U.K.

jeff0ldbean@btinternet.com

koalabear,try this for starters.Use this other beta video connected to the SLHF100, video out to video in.With SLHF100 set to the AV I/P.Video out connected to your Telly.Then play video, to see if you get anything on the Telly.This would prove the replay video cct of your SLHF100. Loss of replay video can be caused by the ACE Head being worn.It would mean changing it.If you can get one.

jeffoldbean.

mark
Saturday 4th October 2014
9:25 am U.K.

mark@beta.com

Koalabear: I would try cleaning the output socket with compressed air and contact cleaner first.If that does not work then next check would be for cracked or dry solder joints on the video out board.

Starfish
Saturday 4th October 2014
2:18 am U.K.

starfish_79@yahoo.com.au

I have a Betamax SL-C35AS in great working order. I am wanting to transfer my beta to VHS but can't find my audio cable. Where can I get a replacement. Thanks

Koalabear
Thursday 2nd October 2014
10:52 pm U.K.

amt@mindspring.com

Glad I found your site, I have a SL-HF100 Sony Beta PAL unit. I had this unit in the UK and also use it in the USA where I now live (I have a PAL-NTSC converter) it has worked great, I used it to transfer some old beta tapes. It has been stored for over a year, i took it out today to convert more it worked great for about an hour, then I lost video output. Audio is fine, I tried another PAL VHS machine and it works fine, so it is the VCR not outputting. As I am now in the USA (I can't find anyone who will work on a PAL unit) Any suggestions?, any of your readers suggest anything, I can fix at component level no problem, but I have no schematics, It is probably a CAP dried out? Or I can ship and pay someone to repair, it's a fine unit and hate to chunk it. Any help appreciated :)

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