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Wednesday 29th March 2017

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weber1600
Saturday 11th March 2017
8:44 pm U.K.

alexsport124@hotmail.com

Hola..

Tengo en mi poder Sony sl c9 con problemas en su carga frontal..

He desmontado el mecanismo y los dos piñones que van a cada extremo de la varilla redonda están

en buen estado.. El problema es otro piñón el cual lleva en su parte alta , un tornillo de cruz con

una arandela muy pequeño, que en su extremo está roto ( partido ) ...

Existe alguna posibilidad de reemplazo de este engranaje??

Bjorn
Saturday 11th March 2017
4:08 pm U.K.

bjorn@bman.me.uk

Pumabr, I have worked on one of those before - approx 8 years ago, and from memory, if the servo board is defective, they are not too bad to repair. Sadly, I don't have the schematic which is useful, but not critical for this. If I remember correctly, it is very very similar to the HF950 so you should be able to use some of that manual as a rough guide.

First, tackle the Hall effect by removing that blob of glue, then work your way from there. Most servo problems I deal with are just replacing old capacitors, especially the smaller ones. Rarely do I find a failed IC.

If you can sort that out, then it's not such a bad purchase.

pumabr
Monday 6th March 2017
3:18 am U.K.

marcobrbq@hotmail.com

So expensive? Why do they charge so much for these manuals?

Yes, I just bought the VCR... it seems now that it was a bad option...

Frandid
Saturday 4th March 2017
1:59 pm U.K.

duckstar@free.fr

pumabr :

Unlike the SL-C9 and the HF950 I couldn't find the SL-F90 service manual for free on the internet. I only saw it for sale on 2 sites, 50€ and 100€, very expensive from my point of view. I am not sure; did you finally buy this VCR ?

Dominic
Friday 3rd March 2017
12:48 am U.K.

cap

Hi guys,

I wanted to share something i've discovered the past few months.

Last year about six SL-C30 and SL-C33 machines from various owners passed my workbench.

All had some of the known problems like dry joints, dried out caps in the psu, old greas on the gears, but five of them had another problem.

They all seemed to wind pretty slow in reverse, forward or both. I could also hear sudden drops in the winding speed.

Tape tension didn't seem right sometimes in playback.

After checking the bearing of the spool motor and the pendulum assembly, which seemed to be ok, I noticed a faint soury smell.

It came from the four caps on the spool motor pcb. The four miniature 47uf/16V capacitors (matsushita) started to leak.

All five machines worked fine again after removing the old caps, cleaning the pcb and installing new caps.

Two machines needed repairs on the pcb traces as the electrolytic fluid had started to eat the traces away.

This may apply to other machines with the same motor pcb too.

Dominic

pumabr
Thursday 2nd March 2017
6:32 pm U.K.

marcobrbq@hotmail.com

Thanks for your help Frandid. I'll talk to a specialist to see what can be done.

Is it possible to find the service manuals for this device? Electrical and mechanical scheme?

Stuart
Wednesday 1st March 2017
9:22 am U.K.

rabiacontralamaquina@gmail.com

Thanks for your help Bjorn.

I took the metal casing off and had a look inside and found a screw loose from a previoys service.Anyway when I put it back together and tried a tape again it worked.

jcarron2
Tuesday 28th February 2017
11:05 pm U.K.

jcarron2@gmail.com

Hi,

Need some help, I suspect I have an issue in the chroma area of my SL HF 600 Betamax. During playback of known good tapes, there is a somewhat noticeable yellow "hue" horizontal bar in the picture at about the 1/3 mark, and 2/3 mark straight across the screen, about the width of a finger on a ~25 inch set.. It does not move, and is very consistent...

The rest of the image is OK and clean. If I record a tape on this unit, and play it on another known good Betamax, the same hue appears there, but is much more faint...

Any ideas where to look? Should I just recap the Chroma, and possibly input caps?

thanks,

Jonathan

Bjorn
Tuesday 28th February 2017
5:54 pm U.K.

bjorn@bman.me.uk

Hi Stuart,

sounds like a loading issue. Does the tape even try to insert, or does it drop, then ejects within seconds?

Often cause is down to the rubber belts being worn which are easily replaced. Other causes include worn loading motor, dew detector picking up damp in the machine. However I would first look at the belts to see if they need replacing. Often the top one on the front loading mechanism.

Frandid
Tuesday 28th February 2017
3:19 pm U.K.

duckstar@free.fr

pumabr :

It seems on the video that the servo board is defective. The hall effect sensor might also be defective as the head drum never spins but it's not sure at all. This point is easy to check, difficult to repair for a "non pro" and anyway in this case it wouldn't be the only issue because this never causes the VTR not to play in FF AND RW for at least a few seconds.I own 3 Betamax ( SL-C9 F, SL-HF950ES and SL-T50ME ) and what I can say is that most of the time when you want to have one unit working perfectly you must buy several spares for each model and/or junk units for spares... The problem is that unlike the SL-HF950 for instance this model is not so easy to find... There is one on Ebay : http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Sony-Betamax- SL-F90 -Video-Cassette-Recorder-/182467768428?hash=item2a7bed306c:g:w0sAAOSw9GhYmG5D but it's impossible to say if it has working parts for yout unit. The first thing I would try is to replace the servo board. Repairing a servoboard is difficult if you are not a pro... Replacing boards is much easier. The problem might also come from the mecanical parts... And I agree with what Bjorn, Kevin etc. already said on this subject.

stuart :

I never saw a Sanyo but I would first check the tape sensors, you'll first have to find the service manual for your unit on the internet, see where they are located and if they work.

Stuart
Tuesday 28th February 2017
6:30 am U.K.

rabiacontralamaquina@gmail.com

Hi,

I just purchased my first ever Beta player today. It's a Sanyo betacord vtc-m20.

I have never owned or even watched anything on beta before. Anyway I have a question and was hoping someone might be able to help me. When I insert a beta tape into the player the cassette symbol flahes red on the display and after about 5 seconds it ejects. I have tried other tapes and it just keeps ejecting it.

Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated?

pumabr
Monday 27th February 2017
7:12 pm U.K.

marcobrbq@hotmail.com

Hi again!

Finally I got a video with the complete diagnosis of the Sony SL-F90. The device does FF but not REW. And neither does play. The drum does not spin... Well, I think the video is the best way to describe the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkkVGXESSMw

Is it a serious problem? Will this be repaired?

Frandid
Monday 27th February 2017
2:29 pm U.K.

duckstar@free.fr

Thanks Martin, the previous/next buttons are now working again and the Sony SL-T50ME under my TV is happy to be recognised on this page like its two mates SL-C9 F and SL-HF950ES :-)

Bjorn
Saturday 25th February 2017
11:51 am U.K.

bjorn@bman.me.uk

Kevin, thanks again for your suggestion, just to update: I took your advice first before getting more complicated (although I tend to do the complicated first, then find it was a simple problem to my annoyance) Idler tyre worn as thought, plus worn pinch roller. Very simple mechanical problem. I do have a little electrical work to do, but nothing major. Repair completed successfully and watched a movie on it in perfect picture. Just have to fix Sanyo's famous front load problem as the jamming mechanism, although intermittent is frustrating. Front control covers (the plastic button coverings worn through so will have a new one printed and made up to fit. Video is almost restored to factory condition.

nickmugford
Friday 24th February 2017
10:36 pm U.K.

nicholas719@outlook.com

For disposal,3 working umatic video recorders plus one for spares,offers.

Martin
Wednesday 22nd February 2017
2:43 pm U.K.

martin@palsite.com

The previous/next buttons should hopefully now be working correctly regardless of having newest or oldest posts first. Also the T50 model is now recognised as a known model on the PALsite.

Bjorn
Tuesday 21st February 2017
10:09 pm U.K.

bjorn@bman.me.uk

Hi pumabr

It does sound repairable, but the problem could be due to one of many issues. Inadequate toque from the take up spool although unlikely, check for head drum rotation, a lot of Sony's I get in tend to have this problem. Ideally you could do with more information. Is there audio but no picture,does the machine play then stop, by no picture do you mean a blank screen, or lots of noise? Another common problem I find is where people have attempted work on the drum and messed it up either damaging or misaligning the heads.

pumabr
Tuesday 21st February 2017
4:14 am U.K.

marcobrbq@hotmail.com

Hi! I found a Sony SL-F90 for sale for 40€ (plus shipping), but it does not play the tapes. The seller says that the unit turns on, rewinds the tapes, but when it does play, it does not give a picture on the TV. Is there a solution to this problem? Can this be repaired?

Frandid
Saturday 18th February 2017
12:09 pm U.K.

duckstar@free.fr

Ogulderen

I forgot this if you want to have the mono sound of your Sony player on both channels of your TV : http://www.ebay.fr/itm/like/172399697330

Frandid
Saturday 18th February 2017
12:03 pm U.K.

duckstar@free.fr

Ogulderen

First you have to buy a BNC to RCA adapter for the video signal: https://www.amazon.fr/Adaptateur-bnc-male-rca-femelle/dp/B000S0HTOM then a RCA cable for video and audio if your TV has rca input : http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Triple-3-Male-RCA-Composite-Audio-Video-DVD-TV-AV-Cable-1-4M-WT-/291789776168?hash=item43f006a528:g:HT8AAOSw9eVXXFxt , if it has only scart you'll have to buy another adapter https://www.amazon.fr/Bulk-Adaptateur-P%C3%A9ritel-gigogne-femelle/dp/B0017ZH80C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1487418870&sr=8-5&keywords=scart+to+rca or a rca to peritel cable : https://www.inkstore.fr/store/logilink-scartkabel-scartstecker-cinchstecker-p-161876.html?gclid=CPTZpt7KmdICFfIW0wodhsQLZA&;gid=direct

I didn't know this model Sony SL-P20CH before, it seems to be one of the very rare Beta players only Sony made, looks a bit like a Sony SL-T20 VTR.

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