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ross
Wednesday 15th August 2001
10:39 pm U.K.

expo@direct.ca

We are looking for a PAL video player including a TV tuner in 12V. Anyone know where to get one? Kind regards,RossE-mail: expo@direct.ca

Allan A. Smith
Wednesday 15th August 2001
10:28 pm U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 15,2001 6:10 P.M. est.

Hmmm? Looks like tape splicing is all tied up! Heh Heh! - But here is a Addendum;Its good to know where on the tape the splice is(I Always run my spliced tapes to a point 50mm before the splice, stop play and then fast forward past the splice then start to play again). So what I do after I finish putting in a splice is to put the tape in the machine, set the counter to 0000 (or in the case of Sonys' to 0 minutes) andrewind the tape to its begining. I then record either the amount of tape (or in case of Sony the amount of time) on the tape for future reference so that I won't take a chance in breaking off a Video Head by using the fast foreward to go past the splice point as outlined above! Best Wishes Al.

P.S. Barry its NOT repeat NOT flakey to say that you like this website for ANY reason-YOU WALK THE WALK! Al.

Barry
Wednesday 15th August 2001
6:59 pm U.K.

barry@bknapper.freeserve.co.uk

Re 'splicing tape'-

I find the best way to splice the ENDS of tapes (ie at the join to the leader tape) is to cut a long piece of splicing tape or Scotch 'invisible' mending tape (Scoth No 81 I think it is). Prepare the tape end and leader by laying them over each other excatly in line, then cutting through both to get an accurate matching butt. Then lay the tape end halfway across an end of splicing tape and carefully butt-up the leader to it. Then leaving a generous loop, double over the splicing tape to seal the other side of the butt joint, thus 'sandwiching' the joint. The folded over tape does not have to be dead square. Just make sure the jointed area is flat and free of air bubbles (rub gently over the back of the tape with a smooth hard tool to clear air bubbles), then cut slightly into the edges of joint/splicing tape to create a slightly concave double-sided spliced joint.

This gives double adhesion strength and also prevents any adhesive seeping out between the butted joint.

Barry.

David Hadaway
Wednesday 15th August 2001
4:29 pm U.K.

david.hadaway@excite.com

You can splice video tape if you're desperate. There will be picture distortion at the splice and you risk damaging your heads. I splice at the leader when I cut out a damaged section at the beginning of the tape. I use standard audio splicing tape crosswise, being careful to butt the two sections together so no adhesive is showing on the outside face of the tape.

Mario Rosner
Wednesday 15th August 2001
3:38 pm U.K.

S3S@gmx.li

hello place can you help ?I look at the Ciruit diagram for my Betamax Video!if you can help me ,please write to me a mail.Thanks

Mario Rosner
Wednesday 15th August 2001
3:24 pm U.K.

S3S@gmx.li

hello

doc judd
Wednesday 15th August 2001
10:11 am U.K.

colinjudd@primus.com.au

Is it possible to splice the Bet tape?if so how?

Olive Thomas
Tuesday 14th August 2001
1:00 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Check The Yahoo clubs and/or Groups sites. They have chat pages for just about everything...

nigel goddard
Tuesday 14th August 2001
12:55 am U.K.

nigelgoddard@hotmail.com

Sanyo ntx 100 front loader..Sony c20 front loader new heads fitted 3 months ago..Offers UK only..Nigel

Barry
Monday 13th August 2001
7:20 pm U.K.

barry@bknapper.freeserve.co.uk

Hi all,

Sorry to sound patronising, or maybe self-congratulating? but I can't help thinking what a super chat page this is for us Betaphiles. Apart from the occasional 'stranger lost in search of love' visitor, we never get much abuse and its an excellent example of community spirit!

Anyway enough yuk! What I would like to ask is, does anyone know of a similar chat page site for audio reel to reel tape buffs? I doubt if anything would be quite as good as this site, but if anyone knows of a R2R site please let me know.

Cheers.

Barry.

Ira Leonard
Monday 13th August 2001
5:19 pm U.K.

iraleonard@covad.net

Hi, The wet cleaning tape is not good to use. It is based on cloth, fibers of which cancatch on the edges of the heads and split or crack them. At the least, it can jam therotating mechanism. Dry tapes are worse, as they are based on sandpaper, which can wear downthe heads - quickly.

The one to use (when you don't want or can't open your machine) is based on regular recordingtape,,,it then has extra cleaning and lubrication chemicals added. (blank tapes have theseadded , also- but only a small amount, since more would degrade the image quality recorded onsaid tape.) When 3 M (Scotch) was in the magnetic media business, they made and sold such atape, and later licensed it to Sony. This tape is no worse than regular recording tape onany machine, and will not cause increased head wear, nor endanger the heads. There are timeswhen you would want to clean (or make sure your heads are clean) your heads and not do acomplete cleaning. When you open your machine you also put your heads at risk,, if you arenot very careful, and are not skilled.

I do have some of these Scotch Beta Head Cleaners for sale,,,held over from when Scotch was inthe tape business. $10 each, 2 for $15 $50 case of 10.

Ira Leonard USA

LUCREZIA
Monday 13th August 2001
4:26 pm U.K.

lucreziagalaxy@aol.com

Hello Again,

To Please All Of You Out There Here It Is Again In Lower case.

Remember my website : http://members.aol.com/lucreziagalaxy/index.html

at which you can get any part for the Sony SL-C9 UB, complete replacement boards, dc/dc converter and even a complete Sony SL C9 -UB.

V2000 both 1st and 2nd Generation Models in working order can also be provided. Videotapes for both systems also available so visit my pages. Needless to say, I can also supply Betamax Video Cameras

Lucrezia

steve
Monday 13th August 2001
10:22 am U.K.

srs911tech@msn.com

hi therea friend has asked me to try and find a good repair shop for sony betamax vcr's, he has a sony slt30me and a sony slt50me (not sure of problems),any recommendations, he lives in central london. hope someone can help rgds steve

AMi
Monday 13th August 2001
6:25 am U.K.

aivars.migla@lattelekom.lv

Hi folks! I'm back again in my office at my PC. I had a very short vacation (only one week) and was very busy. It was the reason why I did not answer to some messages. Thanks for everyone who adviced me. About head cleaning I want to say that I am not using cleaning cassettes anymore because of two reasons. The first reason is that in most cases the tape is abrasive and causes head damage. Of course the wet cleaning tape is better but here comes the second reason - even in this case it is not possible to clean different rotating parts properly - especially a pinch roller. For these reasons I am not using cleaning tapes. My Toshiba V9600 is the only one working Beta machine at this moment (I also have Sony SL-C7E and SL-C44PS and Universum 10300). The problem with SL-C44PS is damaged voltage regulator IC STR1229 which I have ordered but have not received yet (maybe someone knows analog?). What about he last one machine I think is is Sanyo clone - top loader with piano keys. Sorry for being too long ...

Allan A. Smith
Sunday 12th August 2001
6:50 pm U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 12,2001 2:25 P.M. est.

To Chris; Regretfully I think you have gone beyond the expertise available on this chat page. If you really want to you could spend the money and take it to a shop but it might be cheaper to buy a used machine on an Auction Site or from Miss Lucrezia on our chat page.

To Marc; Sonys are not my Specialty so I dont know how old your machine is. BUT I seem to recall that there was another way to record T.V. on the older machines. IF you vcr has both input and output Antenna Wire posts you can attach one end of a piece of antenna wire to them(there were usually 2-one for audio and one for video signals) and the other end of the antenna wire to a cable converter plug and plug it into the output of your cable box or if you have an old fashioned antenna on your T.V. attach the antenna wire from the VCR at the same point where the antenna attaches and use the T.V. Tuner to bring in the programs you want to record. This is the way we used to record in the good old days. It works but is a lot of bother and there are a few more details you should know if you want to pursue it . If so E-mail me!

By the by folks have you heard this one?

Q= What do you call a gun with a hot water bottle hanging from it?

A= You mean you never heard of a "SICK" shooter?

KLUNK!!! Best Wishes Al Smith.

Olive Thomas
Sunday 12th August 2001
5:01 pm U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Just hook the SLO-1700 to a cable box. It you want true stereo recording make sure the cable box has A/V outputs. However since low end HiFi VHS VCRs are cheaper than dirt nowadays you might just as well hook your SLO-1700 to one. Than you can pirate rental movies to Beta like the video gods meant you to... ;-)

Emil Jensen
Sunday 12th August 2001
1:14 pm U.K.

ebzen@mail.dk

With a external tuner or connect the Beta to another VCR with a tuner!

Regards

Emil Jensen

Marc
Sunday 12th August 2001
12:57 pm U.K.

Preisegger@t-online.de

Hi. Can someone tell me if it's possible to make tv-records with a Sony SLO 1700? I read that this machine has no tuner, so I want to know how to record a tv-programme with the SLO 1700. Thanks...

Olive Thomas
Sunday 12th August 2001
10:57 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Ollie groans at the thought of another lost Beta...

chris
Saturday 11th August 2001
7:22 pm U.K.

chris@douglasgreen.freeserve.co.uk

HiI have a Sony SL-F30 which has been in storage for 10+ years and now refuses to work. Tape loads ok, fast wind stops after several seconds. The description of the Hall Effect device seems to fit the first problem: from service pages "No head rotationYou may find that the head drum fails to rotate. This is due to a problem with the Hall effect device on the head drum motor which is secured by a blob of glue which tends to become conductive especially if it absorbs moisture. The best remedy is to remove the glue from the device. To do this first remove the rotor from the bottom of the drum by undoing the lock-nut. Sometimes, however, it is enough to wait for the damp to dry out. "From the underside of the machine I have removed the hexagonal nut in the centre of what looks like a magnetic shield on the bottom of the rotor. This now rotates independently of the slotted screw and disc at the other end of the spindle, ie the top of the head, but doesn't seem to want come off. There is a small white plastic housing at 2:00 o'clock from the front of the machine(upside down)with a half-visible device with 4 leads coming off it. Is this the Hall effect device referred to? If so, I can see glue (Secotine-like) covering the 4 leads. Is the problem due to glue on the leads or on the body of the device itself? I can probably get the glue off the leads without removing the rotor. If not, how do you get the rotor to come off with minimal force?With regard to the rewind problem:"Stops after few seconds in the rewind a review modes. Modification: change resistor R2 to 33kohms (panel RD20)"Where is panel RD20? What vaue is R2 originally?

If anyone can help, I'll be eternally grateful! Thanks in advance.

Allan A. Smith
Saturday 11th August 2001
7:05 pm U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 11,2001 2:58 P.M. est.

Mike; Try Andy Sanchez in Modesto, Ca http://www.andysbeta@yahoo.com he has been around for a while! Also on the palsite betamax site under directories is a list of repair centers for different countries click U.S.A. and see what you come up with! Best wishes Al Smith.

Mike Ryan
Saturday 11th August 2001
5:18 pm U.K.

mike94109@yahoo.com

I own three American Beta machines inherited from an old friend along with at least 300 videos. All three of the machines are now out of commission for one reason or another - each needs repair. I'm now looking for a repairman or service company that will repair Beta machines. I'd like to try and get the SL-HF680D machine fixed because it was the last machine that worked. If I recall the problem came down to the inability to insert a tape but I'm not sure. I'm located in downtown San Francisco but would be willing to ship the machine anywhere within the U.S. for repair. Can anyone point me in the right direction? So far I've tried visiting the Sony VCR repair site and leaving a message there (last month) but no response has ever been received. Thanks for any assistance. Mike Ryan

Olive Thomas
Saturday 11th August 2001
11:41 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Try this page Emil

http://www.palsite.info/slc5tech.html

VERNON VOGT
Saturday 11th August 2001
6:28 am U.K.

HEARTOFTHESUN@WEBTV.NET

FOR SALE: SONY SL-2710 WITH REMOTE AND ORIGINAL PACKING BOX-$500.00,ZENITH VR9750J WITH REMOTE-SAME AS A SONY SL-5800-$500.00 ALL GUARANTEED WORKING

Rob Kelsen
Saturday 11th August 2001
12:52 am U.K.

rkelsen@iprimus.com.au

Hello,

Does anyone know where I can get a service manual for a Sony Betamax SL-C6AS? I'mwilling to pay for shipping from overseas.

Thanks in advance,

Rob Kelsen,Melbourne Australia.

Emil Jensen
Friday 10th August 2001
6:39 pm U.K.

ebzen@mail.dk

Oops!I forgot to say:Ive tried to readjust the "Capstan Free Run Speed"!No servo lock! :(

Emil J. From DK

Emil Jensen
Friday 10th August 2001
6:37 pm U.K.

ebzen@mail.dk

Hello all!I have a problem with my SL-C5E Betamax:There are no capstan servo lock in record and playback! With horrible Wow on sound but no noise bars! And i tried to change the capstan belt, with no improved result!What are the fault....?? The Caps on the Capstan Servo board?

Can you help me?

Best Regards

Emil J. From DK

Rob Ponti
Thursday 9th August 2001
10:21 pm U.K.

bob_point@hotmail.com

I am having a problem with my SLHF450. The unit immediately ejects tapes upon insertion. A local repair shop claims it needs a new cam gear assembly which is no longer available from Sony. Can anyone verify if this indeed could be the problem and if so, perhaps suggest where I might be able to pick up this part? At this point, even the part number would help!

Howard
Thursday 9th August 2001
2:52 pm U.K.

hfeng40@hotmail.com

To Lenora,

The SLP-300 will play Beta I speed only. Sony later came out with the SLP-305, which will play all three speeds (Beta I, II, and III). Hope this info helps. Howard

Allan A. Smith
Thursday 9th August 2001
6:04 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

???

Olive Thomas
Thursday 9th August 2001
12:00 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

I checked this afternoon and my search came up OK. Must've been one of those 'rolling blackouts' at E-bay's server farm.

As for the subject of arcane computers, how 'bout a Coleco 'Adam' computer system with it's 'digtal data pack' audiocassette drive?

Or that TRS-80 portable model...

Speaking of... I actually have a couple of the 128k Color Computer 3s growing penicillin in my cellar. Maybe E-bay could use 'em...

Or my Apple II-GS and/or IIc...

or an IBM PC jr with 512k add on card...

or an origional IBM PC...

The Olive Elaine Thomas cellar museum of obsolete technology... Just step over the Sharp VHS VCR with the missing cassatte door and push past the RCA CED player, the GE reel to reel tape recorder, two color TV sets with those 'twisty dials', the filmstrip projector and institutional grade record player - you know the one that came in a latched fabric cover case that smelled musty and the teacher had to tape a penny on the needle so it wouldn't skip...

By the way the only Beta item to show is a TT-2000 tuner module that lost it's VCR - I'm still using the Beta stuff ;o)

Lin
Wednesday 8th August 2001
10:14 pm U.K.

linnylou@aol.com

FOR SALE: SONY BETAMAX VIDEO CASSETTE RECORDER, Model SL-2401, 39.5 watt, It has an RF unit with 3 channel and 4 channel VHF. It has a clock to set programing, date, month and time. Good condition. Size 15" x 17" 3 inches thick. Front Loader. Asking price $145.00 plus shipping.

I also have 28 movies tapes for sale. I am asking $3.00 each plus cost of shipping.

Mad Beta Collector
Wednesday 8th August 2001
9:21 pm U.K.

Prshuttleworth@hotmail.com

After looking on ebay I did not realise the Dragons computers are very rare and I was brought up with one a dragon 64 which still works perfectly... I know this is a beta site so ignore this but to those who have a dragon/collects dragons or most importantly have 'frogger' game pls pls contact me.Thank you:-)Kepp on Betamaxing!!

Richard Fincher
Wednesday 8th August 2001
8:05 pm U.K.

richard@room101.co.uk

We have made some changes.

Pepse
Wednesday 8th August 2001
6:02 pm U.K.

jmsekola@chibardun.net

O-live, true whatever that search string is didn't work for me either. Tho I don't know how that goes on Ebay. The way I do it is to goto Ebay goto consumer electronics goto tv, vcrs, etc., and when I get to that page in the search box I type in Beta and I got 128 items listed for Beta, of which an item ending in a couple hours is a Sanyo VRC500 camcorder. Anyway after I finish looking at the Beta listings I go back and type in Betamax and get a few more listings; although some are dupes of the Beta query. And if I'm looking for "Restaurant Quality" blank tapes I type Betacam in the search box. But then like you say that old Timex-Sinclair and Altair server is getting flakey. You should switch to a Kaypro with the Altair server and an 8-track tape drive. Works for me. LOL :-} .

Allan A. Smith
Wednesday 8th August 2001
5:48 pm U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 08,2001 1:40 P.M. est.

Olive I've been working on Ebay so when I saw your messages I tried searching Betacam and seperately Betamax from the ebay home page and had no problem. when the results came in I went to the sort by line and clicked newly listed items first also no problem. Am I making or missing the point? Best Wishes Al.

Olive Thomas
Wednesday 8th August 2001
5:04 pm U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Having just ried that search I can bring up the first page but I can't check the newly listed first option nor can I bring up another page. Damned cheap Timex-Sinclair & Altair 8800 server with a VHS VCR tape drive...

Olive Thomas
Wednesday 8th August 2001
4:59 pm U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

This E-Beta search http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=%28Beta%2CBetamax%2CBetamovie%2CBetacord%2CBetavision%29&ebaytag1=ebayreg&ht=1&category0=293&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&sc=1&st=0

used to give the best results but for some reason I'm having trouble bringing it up. Either it won't come up at all or it will crash my computer. Anyboday else having problems with it?

Has E-bay picked up a virus or something?

Gerhard
Wednesday 8th August 2001
11:22 am U.K.

GRaupp@t-online.de

To Olive and Allan:

ok ok - next time I pay.

Gerhard

LUCREZIA
Wednesday 8th August 2001
9:41 am U.K.

lucreziagalaxy@aol.com

Hello Again,

To Please All Of You Out There Here It Is Again In Lower case.

Remember my website : http://members.aol.com/lucreziagalaxy/index.html

at which you can get any part for the Sony SL-C9 UB, complete replacement boards, dc/dc converter and even a complete Sony SL C9 -UB.

V2000 both 1st and 2nd Generation Models in working order can also be provided. Videotapes for both systems also available so visit my pages.Needless to say, I can also supply Betamax Video Cameras

Lucrezia

Lenora
Wednesday 8th August 2001
5:10 am U.K.

Hobo6465@msn.com

I am looking for some info on a portable Betamax slp 300 I need to know if this machine is capable of running Beta I,II, & III playbacks any info would be great! Thanks

Olive Thomas
Wednesday 8th August 2001
3:02 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

How much you wanna bet our Miss Lucrezia has a prototype Beta - VHS tape adapter stashed amongst her collection of SLC-9 DC -> DC converters ;o)

By the way, quick tip for BetaMovie-cammers still out there when shooting at night set the white balance switch to the lightbulb setting instead of the sunlight setting or everything'll turn out yellow...

I wasn't sure so I ended up taping a half hour of murky yellowish video...

Oh well sometimes you gotta learn the hard way....

Allan A. Smith
Wednesday 8th August 2001
12:15 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 07,2001 8:08 P.M. est.

Olive; Looks like We are going to have to start charging for the answers to the Beta/vhs conversion question again. Al!

Olive Thomas
Tuesday 7th August 2001
10:58 pm U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

To Gerhard - That was my facicious way of saying that the only adapter available to play a Beta tape on a VHS VCR is a Beta VCR hooked up to the VHS machine...

Gerhard
Tuesday 7th August 2001
10:07 pm U.K.

GRaupp@t-online.de

To Olive: can you please outline what this Sony SL-2000 Beta -> VHS adapter is? I think it is not only my own interest to learn about such a great device.

To Mike: I live in Germany and own the SL-F1E which should have the same connectors as the F1UB. I think it is possible.And if you are one of these lucky men equipped with the VMC-330 or VMC-110 cables (for which I'm desparately looking for....grrrrr..:-)) here's my advice.Set the switch Line/Camera (on the cable) to LINE and feed your video signal through the BNC-IN connector.Audio through RCA Audio-IN of course. To watch the video you must tune the SL-F1 RF-channel on the back with a small screwdriver to your TV or adjust your TV's channel to the RF.

If you don't have this cable it will be rather complicated:

Video In is pin 23Video GND pin 24Audio In is pin 14 and 16Audio GND pin 15

In addition you have to connect pin 1 to GND. This selects Line In.

For your orientation: Pin 1 isthe most right pin in the upper row and pin 26 is the most left one in the lower row of pins.

Good Luck

Gerhard

mike
Tuesday 7th August 2001
6:57 pm U.K.

mike@webtune.fsnet.co.uk

Hi Does anyone know anthing about the Sony SL-F1UB portable vcr? (SL-2000 in the US,I think)I want to be able to put a composite video signal into the camara socket (pin 1) or the accessory socket (which pin?), and get it to modulate the rf output, preferably with no tape in the machine. Is this possible? At the moment I only seem to get an rf modulated signal at playback. I do not have a manual.Thanks,Mike

sexy mark
Tuesday 7th August 2001
5:44 pm U.K.

jp@lineone.com

any sexy ladies want 2 chat

LUCREZIA
Tuesday 7th August 2001
1:25 pm U.K.

lucreziagalaxy@aol.com

Hello Again,

To Please All Of You Out There Here It Is Again In Lower case.

Remember my website : http://members.aol.com/lucreziagalaxy/index.html

at which you can get any part for the Sony SL-C9 UB, complete replacement boards, dc/dc converter and even a complete Sony SL C9 -UB.

V2000 both 1st and 2nd Generation Models in working order can also be provided. Videotapes for both systems also available so visit my pages.

Lucrezia

Olive Thomas
Tuesday 7th August 2001
12:15 pm U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

To Sameer Junaid.

Mhat model Beta is it?

On my American SL-HF 300 there's a setting switch for 50 and 60 hz in the back so Sony might've provided one on your model especially if it was specifically made for the Middle Eastern market.

By the way your VCR may be a dual voltage machine that automatically compensates voltage. Not knowing the model number though I can't be certain.

At any rate Radio Shack would be your best bet for a Voltage Adapter.

To Richard - It's likely dirt, dust or some liquid like soda has gotten inside the remote. If you can carefully disassemble it without breaking anything, try cleaning the underside of the rubber membrane and the corresponding curcuit board with a alcohol soaked cloth. Don't try to rub off those black dots as they're supposed to be there.

If the remote's too stubborn to get apart, take out the batteries, spray it all over with 'Scrubbing Bubbles' type cleaner and wash the unit under warm water. Let it sit for a couple days to drip dry out before installing the batteries and trying it again. Do this as a last resort because there is a risk of electronic damage.

Richard
Tuesday 7th August 2001
9:06 am U.K.

h2o0001@hotmail.com

The remote is working now. It is for the vcr only, there are no buttons for a TV, and there isn't a remote on/off button on the vcr (or the remote for that matter), but thanks for the suggestions. The last time I tryed it a few weeks ago, it would not work although I had brand new alkaline AA batteries in it, for some reason, it is working now without having done anything to it. This is the first time I've used it in the 2 years I have owned this vcr, and have just discovered that all the functions on the remote work except rewind and record, so I'm back to using the universal remote!

Sameer Junaid
Tuesday 7th August 2001
8:00 am U.K.

dr_junaid@yahoo.com

Just wanted to know if someone tell me if I can buy a frequency converter for my betamax. My father purchased it in 1980 in abu dhabi, but we moved to the US in 1990 and since then it has been collecting dust. But until we left it was working in mint condition. We still kept all our tapes and would love to watch em again. I have a mutlisystem TV..so viewing would not be a prob. So any help on how to switch the frequency from 50 to 60 Hz.

Olive Thomas
Tuesday 7th August 2001
5:43 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Troubleshooting questions

Do you suppose maybe the IR transmitter bulb might've burt out? That's the light actually transmitting the signal not that red light.Radio Shack sells an infrared test/detector card that lets you check that bulb. They also sell replacement IR bulbs.

Are you using good batteries for that remote?

Is the RMT-135 designed also to control a TV set? Have you switched it to run the VCR?

Does the SL-HFT 7 have a remote on/off or a VTR 1/VTR 2 switch?

If it's the origional remote it should presumably not need any programming.

Richard
Tuesday 7th August 2001
4:56 am U.K.

h2o0001@hotmail.com

Does anyone know if some Sony beta remotes require some type of programming in order to use them? I have the original remote (RMT-135) for my SL-HFT7 that will not operate the machine, I know the machine will work with a remote cause it works with a universal remote. The RMT-135 remote has a red light underneath the tinted cover on the front that will flash rapidly after pressing buttons for awhile, but it still wont function the vcr. Thanks for any help.

karen
Tuesday 7th August 2001
3:29 am U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

Thanks everyone for your help especially you allan and olive!

I am going to go ahead and order the idler belt kit and try and fix it myself...I will let you all know how it goes.

Karen

Olive Thomas
Monday 6th August 2001
10:45 pm U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

<<<Name: Terry MillerEmail: tiramila@hotmail.comMonday 6th August 12:52 pm U.K. Time

Hi, My trusty Sony has finally stopped .Is there any way that my betamax tapes can be played on a VHS player?>>>

Coitenly!!!

If the tapes are mono just get a Sony SL-2000 Beta -> VHS adapter - in Europe that model number is SL-F1. HiFi tapes require either an SL-HF 300 adapter or the European SL-HF 100 adapter... ;o)

Peter Templin
Monday 6th August 2001
7:14 pm U.K.

etemp@freenet.de

Wanted Sony Betamax SL 800 ME !Please send me your offer per E-mail

Howard
Monday 6th August 2001
4:01 pm U.K.

hfeng40@hotmail.com

To Allan, Olive, A. Choate, and others who helped Karen with her problem Sanyo. Keep up the good work! This is what being betaphiles is about, helping each other with beta history and beta problems. Since the electronics manufacturers have sadly abandoned the format, we have only each other to turn to and to seek help from. I am impressed by the knowledge you possess on beta fixit knowhow. Once again, keep up the good work :) Howard

David
Monday 6th August 2001
12:33 pm U.K.

james.david@talk21.com

Help !. I'm looking for a good working order Betamax player but am having no luck in the North West (UK). Does anyone suggest where I can source one ?

Terry Miller
Monday 6th August 2001
11:52 am U.K.

tiramila@hotmail.com

Hi,My trusty Sony has finally stopped .

Is there any way that my betamax tapes can be played on a VHS player?

chris
Monday 6th August 2001
12:14 am U.K.

christopher.freer@virgin.net

is there anyn one out their???

Olive Thomas
Sunday 5th August 2001
3:19 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

I think I'd mentioned that there were several parts to remove, but if you didn't see it that way, Karen most likely wouldn't have. Those little washers can be quite pesky. Remember that central hub thingie goes back fat side down...

Allan A. Smith
Sunday 5th August 2001
1:31 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 04,2001 9:16 P.M. est.

To Olive; I did not tell Karen to try to adjust the back tension YET! it was one possible option. I know that this adjustment sometimes works if the tape is too slack when unthreading and gets snarled! Stick to Sonys!

Karen; One thing Olive forgot to mention is that the idler assembly seperates into 3 parts a top with a idler tire, then a gear, and then a bottom also with a idler tire. Those little washers that Olive mentioned go INSIDE THE GEAR and tend to fall out when you take the assembly of of the pin holding it in place there may be anywhere from 2-6 of them and they are absolutely necessary to maintain balance. So if they fall out put them back inside the gear immediatly so as not to lose them and then proceed with replacing the idler tires and Belt. Al Smith.

Olive Thomas
Sunday 5th August 2001
12:46 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Did you ever wonder how Beta got it's name?

"Sony had to think of an appropriate name for this definitive product. What Kihara called the Azimuth Recording had been nicknamed the Beta Recording, beta being the Japanese word used to describe the way signals were recorded onto the tape. From this sprung the idea of using the word beta. Just as the tape path in the U-matic loading system resembled the letter U, the tape path in the new loading system closely resembled the Greek letter or beta, when seen from above. This symbol is associated with good luck and can be construed as a drawn out pronunciation of the English word better. Max, an abbreviation of the word maximum was intended to impart a meaning of grandness, and was then added to the end. The name Betamax was born."

Taken from the 'Sony History' page at URL http://www.sony.co.jp/en/Fun/SH/1-13/h1.html which is a narrative on the history of the videocassette. URL http://www.sony.co.jp/en/Fun/SH/1-13/h5.html has the page about Betamax and the origin of it's name...

Now you know....

Olive Thomas
Sunday 5th August 2001
12:44 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Ever wonder how Beta got it's name?

"Sony had to think of an appropriate name for this definitive product. What Kihara called the Azimuth Recording had been nicknamed the Beta Recording, beta being the Japanese word used to describe the way signals were recorded onto the tape. From this sprung the idea of using the word beta. Just as the tape path in the U-matic loading system resembled the letter U, the tape path in the new loading system closely resembled the Greek letter or beta, when seen from above. This symbol is associated with good luck and can be construed as a drawn out pronunciation of the English word better. Max, an abbreviation of the word maximum was intended to impart a meaning of grandness, and was then added to the end. The name Betamax was born."

Taken from the 'Sony History' page at URL http://www.sony.co.jp/en/Fun/SH/1-13/h1.html which is a narrative on the history of the videocassette. URL http://www.sony.co.jp/en/Fun/SH/1-13/h5.html has the page about Betamax...

No you know....

Olive Thomas
Sunday 5th August 2001
12:34 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

To Karen the symptoms you describe - capable of fast-forwarding or rewinding in play mode but not when the tape is stopped - is exactly what I'd expect for worn idler tires. This is the one 'easy' fix for the novice. While you wait for the belt kit you can still use your VCR if you remember to hit rewind before ejecting to take op the slack - assuming the tires aren't so far gone they can't even suck up the excess tape. Check with the top off that it's working.

By the way DO NOT attempt to readjust the back tension bar as Alan suggested - it'll mess up things further...

Somehow I'm reminded of NASA/Apollo 13 communications in trying to work this problem...

"Can you stir the cryo tanks without killing us this time, Jim?"...

Allan A. Smith
Sunday 5th August 2001
12:24 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 04, 2001 8:14 P.M. est.

Karen; Gotcha! My guess is either bad idler tires or a bad reel motor or both! Try the idler tire replacement first then let me know and I'll see if I can find a distrbutor for a reel motor for you Al.

P.S. I've got a bunch of xtra reel belts(which you should replace also) If you want a couple for free contact me @ my email address!

karen
Saturday 4th August 2001
10:49 pm U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

Allan, In reponse to your second message...

Just plain rewind....rewind in play mode seem to work fine as does fast foward...of course in plain rewing mode the slack isn't as great so very little is left out but it doesnt seem as if any is being brought back in.

I couldn't seem to get plain fast foward to work... I guess I had forgot to try it without being in play mode.

Karen

karen
Saturday 4th August 2001
10:36 pm U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

Allan,

Ok tried both of those things and neither one helped at all.

It just doesn't seem to take up any tape at all....however it takes up the tape into the other reel when its playing.

Allan A. Smith
Saturday 4th August 2001
10:28 pm U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 04,2001 6:20 P.M. est.

Karen; I just saw your 2nd message - do you mean rewind in the play mode or just plain rewind? Plain fast forward a tape and watch to see if the fast forward speed becomes slower at any time or as you get to the end of the tape . If this happens you probably need a new reel motor which you can change out yourself but is a LOT! of work and is worth paying a shop to do. Generic motors are available & not 2 expensive. Let me know! A.S.

Allan A. Smith
Saturday 4th August 2001
10:20 pm U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 04,2001 6;00 P.M. est.

Karen I got your message; 1st a question - when you pressed the stop switch did the machine attempt any amount of respooling at all? If you havent put the machine back together yet try the following tests. 1.) power up put in a cassette and press the pause button (rather than the play button then press the stop button does the machine respool better?2.) Repeat the proceedure to pause then press eject(rather than stop). Does the machine respool better? Let me know because if either proceedure works your problem is solved. If not the 4 major problems could be 1.) worn idler tires 2.) weak tape tension3.) a bad tape sensor and/or stop switch4.) a bad reel motor

The first 2 can be fixed fairly easily, for the others I would take it to a shop. Please let me know. Best Wishes; Al smith.

karen
Saturday 4th August 2001
10:11 pm U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

oops forgot one thing....

It seems to have the same problems when rewinding...but everything else seems to work fine.

karen
Saturday 4th August 2001
9:33 pm U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

Allan the machine is a front loader.

Ok I opened up the machine today and here is what I found:

It appears that there is no problem with the tape wraping around the video head. It does it perfectly as far as I can tell.

The problem appears to be that the tape does not respool properly when stopped. It doesn't seem as though even a small amount respools. The tape travels fine while playing and winds onto the other side just fine but as soon as you stop it nothing at all goes back into the tape. There are several inches left hanging loose. This is causing the tape to get caught up on various parts inside the machine when you go to eject it.

So does this mean that it is definitely the idler parts? or could it still be something else?

ThanksKaren

John
Saturday 4th August 2001
2:53 pm U.K.

john.pike@onmail.co.uk

Looking for Sanyo Reel Motor for V 5000/5150/5400 or M.40. forspare. Ta John.

Olive Thomas
Saturday 4th August 2001
11:11 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

To Karen - When the tape is ejected it has to be completely wound into the shell by the idler/reel-drive . Putting a deadshell in it won't give you all the operational info you need because you'll need to see how the machine's idler/reel-drive behaves under a load.

Unless the idler drive parts are warped and/or cracked you probably only need the 'minor' tune up kit with just belts and tyres - If I remember right, the 'major' kit includes the metal brake plates as well.

Notes on dissassembly...

It helps to keep a sheet of styrofoam to park the removed screws in their relative positions so you'll remember how to put them back. On the idler hub there will be four small grey washers that will come out when you dissassemble everything. Put them back, giving two to eah side of the hub. Also the fatter side of the hub goes down when you put everything back together. That's fairly obvious if it's the half gear half tyre idler - not so obvious if it's the double tyre idler.

A. Choate
Saturday 4th August 2001
11:10 am U.K.

betaphile@yahoo.com

Karen I have heard that many Sanyo and Sanyo built clones has a bad SYSCON chip that causes some VCR's to unlace the tape when something goes wrong. Betas sense the end of a tape using a conductance sensor and metal leader tape like old 8-tracks. I belive I read the SYSCON thing on the old Beta Lore page I'm surprised nobody noticed. A. Choate creator/editor of the BetaLore II webpage.

Pepse
Saturday 4th August 2001
7:12 am U.K.

jmsekola@chibardun.net

Well, after reading all this stuff pertaing to Karen's 4410 I feel very sure that the unit needs the usual 'belts and idler" repair job. I used to do a lot of repairs on vhs decks in the '80's and '90's and being that Sanyo Betas were similar to vhs' in that they used alot of belts in the early days of vcrs. So, my opinion Karen is that the Belt and Idler kit should cure your problem. Oh and afore anyone gets lippy about my vhs repair days; hey, it was easy money as 95% of the time the belts and idler were all that needed replacing. Later. Pepse.

Allan A. Smith
Saturday 4th August 2001
5:59 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 04,2001 1:36 A.M. est.

Karen does your machine load from the top or front? I think a 4010 is a top loader in which case you should be able to see the pinch roller/idler ARM when you take the top off to work on the idler assembly. If you can see it try loading a tape then press the stop button and look to see if the tape has completely respooled, if it has or if there is an inch or less of loosely free tape the respooling should not be the major problem. If there is a apparent respooling problem, there is a metal tension spring that runs from the idler arm to hook onto one of 3 grooves in a small white plastic hole next to the idler assembly on the right. This spring controls minor adjustment of the tape tension. By moving the end hook of the tension spring into one of the other grooves you can roughly increase or decrease the tape tension. Please don't try this until you've tried the other proceedures I outlined earlier because the spring is very fragile and almost impossible to obtain. MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM FIRST!!

To anyone else contemplating the proceedures I outlined for Karen:

THEY WILL ONLY WORK ON SANYO MACHINES - sonys are laid out differently. Best Wishes Al Smith.

Olive Thomas
Saturday 4th August 2001
3:40 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

To Karen - your post arrived just as I was posting - Yeah, sounds like a worn idler tyre. This is a reasonably easy fix and if the tyres are too badly cracked with age you may just need to sand/file the top crust off of them to keep them till you can get a proper set of tyres. Or you can fllip them around to expose the less damaged side. It's just a matter of exposing the idler unit by opening the top and removing the ejector mechanism. The idler is the white ouiji shaped thingie between the reels. Remove and set aside the metal clip holding down the idler and note the parts as you remove them. Then you will be able to inspect the tyres. They should be rubbery soft not crusty or crackled. If you can't wait for replacement belts by post and you can't flip them around, you can find substitutes at any hardware or plumbing supply store. Round tyres or washers are OK if the outside diameters match but you do have to get it exactly right.

Olive Thomas
Saturday 4th August 2001
3:20 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Not having any Sanyo equipment (all Sony now) to poke my nose into, I can't be 100% but I think the IR sensor was for control of the reel drive and does not specifically detect the physical presence of a tapeshell. You can see a sawtooth pattern on the bottom of the reel hubs as well as a reflection wheel on the hub bottoms. Tape detection was the job of the tripswitch. The nonpresence of a tape would be betrayed by the failure of both reels to rotate as expected by the SYSCON.

To A Choate - PAL Site's Sanyo VCR tech specs page does mention thet system control 'bug' that relaces the tape during an ejection failure. I think there was a method to the bug in that it was intended to protect the machine and or the tape from a dangling length of tape. I've seen it in the VCR-4400 I used to have but later Sanyos didn't do that.

To Betadude - as long as you're checking your cell phone don't forget your cordless one if you have one. You might also want to check the line of sight of your computer monitor. A Computer CRT can deliver interference waves if it's pointed directly at a TV or VCR and or their antennae

karen
Saturday 4th August 2001
3:02 am U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

I'm amazed that you guys are so willing to help. That's great!

Ok checked the machine and it is a 4010.

I do realize that I can't use an empty shell to diagnose the problem. I just wanted to check if the ejecting trouble was from the reel tape getting caught up in the machine or if it was from another problem with the machine. I haven't opened up the machine yet because I just bought it yesterday...I was just trying to do a little more diagnosing.

A. Choate - This wasn't anywhere near the end of the tape so would that rule that sensor out? I had barely started the tape before it got entangled.

Olive - I haven't opened up the machine to look yet...but is it that much harder to replace the whole thing rather than just the belts? I'd probably rather do the whole thing just to be safe if it isn't that much more trouble.

Allan - I will try to open the machine up in the next day or two to watch the tape feed through. The picture was perfect and continued to play until I stopped it. I only played it for a couple minutes as I was just trying it out to see if the machine even worked at all.

I am thinking from what I observed with the quick testing of the machine that it might not be respooling during the eject mode. Though I am certainly not an expert so I can't be certain. It took several attempts for the machine to eject when a tape was inserted. I think that might be because the tape wasnt respooled in that process and the several attempts at ejecting the tape stretched or pulled the tape out of the shell enough so that it could manage to eject out of the machine. That was kind of hard to word. I hope it made sense.

I don't know if this tells any of you anything more about my problem but I am trying to give you as much information as I have right now to help diagnose the problem so I have more of an idea what I should be looking for when I open up the machine.

Oh yeah one more thing...the tape didn't seem so much "chewed" as it just seemed caught up.

Karen

Allan A. Smith
Saturday 4th August 2001
12:55 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 03, 2001 7:47 P.M. est.

To Olive: All front loading Sanyo's have a IR tape sensor on the right side of the idler assy facing the Video Head Drum to detect the presence of and speed of the Video Tape, almost opposite the Dew Sensor. You are probably thinking of the trip gear for loading the cassette into the machine.

To Betadude (what is your real name anyway?) One more test to try - rehook you bad machine up to your T.V and play a tape that you know is good. When you get a good picture going take out your cellphone sit next to your vcr and make a phone call. Watch your T.V. and see if there is any change in the picture quality. If there is no change then its probably not an interference problem. My next best guess would be A bad Capstan (because of the WOW & Flutter in the Audio) You'll probably have to then decide if you want to spend the money for an accurate diagnosis and take it to a shop. I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help!

To Karen: It would help if you looked at the back of your machine at the metal plate next to your power cord. On that plate you will see a serial number and a model number (VCR model#----) please let me know the model number. It won't hurt to replace the idler tires and reel belt but its MOST important to see how the tape is getting either entangled and/or torn up! To see this you have to watch the tape being wound and unwound around the Video Head Drum several times. To see this you must 1.) use a cassette with a tape inside it (like Olive suggested) but use one that you don't really need anymore but is still untorn! 2.) Partially disassemble the vcr to that you can observe the Video head Drum , Pins, and Idler Arm (The thing with the pinch roller on it. The following are instructions that will help you exposed the head drum. When you reassemble the unit after inspection you MUST put every screw back in the same position as you took it off! This is especially important for the head shield! Please wear Rubber gloves if [possible while performing this proceedure! 1.) Remove the 4 screws holding the VCR cover in place and pull the cover up and off.2. ) this will expose the Audio/Video Circuit board which is held in place by 2-4 tiny copper plated screws located on the outer edge of the board. Gently remove these screws (do not force them) and when they are off the board should be loose in its position. Gently lift it up to Vertical and Very Gently wedge it into this position using a pencil(you can also try tapeing it in place). This should expose the Video Head Drum Shield (A large steel metal plate held in place by 3-4- screws. Remove these screws but be careful because one of the screws may have a grounding wire attached which you must put back in the exact same position during reassembly. The grounding wire is usually attached to the screw in the upper left corner. Lift the loose shield with your fingertips up and out and put it aside. this should expose the Video Head drum and Idler arm.

Proceedure for observation;1.) Power up the machine and load a cassette with a intact tape inside (but which you wouldn't mind loosing to much).2.) Press the Pause button! This should cause the idler arm to grab the tape and wrap it around the Video Head Drum. Watch what happens to the tape if it becomes entangled turn the power off and with one finger turn the large white screw gear in the upper right corner next to the video head drum with your fingertip to manually unwind the tape until its loose and free it from any entanglements (if it won't come loose then you will have to cut it with a scissors-dont worry you can splice the 2 torn ends together later. Then turn on the power and press the eject button ideally the idler arm should bring almost all of the tape back to the cassette to be rewound and then eject the tape. Repeat this process until you know at what point the tape is getting snagged, entangled or is just not being respooled during the eject proceedure. Once you know this reassemble the machine IN THE EXACT REVERSE ORDER that you took it apart(don't forget to reattach the grounding wire to the screw on the Head Shield. Let me know what you observe. Karen this proceedure is risky for the Amateur I don't recommend it but for $8.00? Best Wishes to you all! Al Smith.

karen
Friday 3rd August 2001
8:20 pm U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

Allan & Olive thanks for your responses.

I played around with my beta a little more last night and here's what I found out. I was using one of the tapes I tried out originally that it ate to see how the eject mechanism worked. I had removed all the tape inside so it was pretty much just the plastic casing. It ejected just fine over and over again. It had no trouble whatsoever, so it's pretty apparent that the machine eating the tapes and getting caught inside is what is causing the problem with ejecting.

Does this tell you anymore about what could possibly be the problem? Does it eliminate any possibilities?

I was figuring that I would try the tune up kit myself unless this new information changes anything. One thing I need to know is should I get the MAJOR or the MINOR tune-up kit? I am fairly handy so I am pretty sure I can manage to change these parts out (unless I have to pretty much disassemble the ENTIRE vcr to get to these parts..I'd have trouble remembering how to put it back together)

Thanks for all your help. Hopefully I will be able to fix it and watch my enormous beta collection again someday.

Karen

BetaDude
Friday 3rd August 2001
5:03 pm U.K.

betamax53@hotmail.com

To Olive: The machine does warm around the power supply area, but I figured that was the transformer and therefore normal (the 500 gets warm, too). I might be able to take the machine apart and check the circuit board for bad solder joints, but I don't have the equipment nor the knewledge to pursue anything further than that. But I'll give that repair place in NY a call. We're @ UMass Amherst so that wouldn't be a killer drive if I had to take the machine in.

BetaDude
Friday 3rd August 2001
4:58 pm U.K.

betamax53@hotmail.com

Alan: The only nearby transmitter I know of is the college radio station tower but that's FM. I don't know if anyone has a CB or Ham station anywhere nearby, but I'll try to find out. The Sat is an 18" DSS-type multi-TV system and according to my roommate (was professional installation), it's setup properly and the signal is nominal. As for the machines themselves, the 300 was located in the living room and the 500 in my bedroom (off-campus apartment). I had moved the 500 out to the 300's location and the picture from the DSS is clear. The 300 was tried in both locations with and without anything connected to it. Made no difference. Also tried the tinfoil suggestion, negative there, too. Any other suggestions?

Ron
Friday 3rd August 2001
8:42 am U.K.

ron.grinham@thameswater.co.uk

I am looking for a betamax video recorder in working condition send me an email if you know where i can obtain one at a reasonable pricethanks

Allan A. Smith
Friday 3rd August 2001
3:11 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 02, 2001 10:55 P.M. est.

Karen; There are at least 4 good reasons for tape eating. 1.) The tape once inserted is not sitting firmly in the rest position within the carriage(thus causing the pinch Roller to lose it as it tries to wrap it around the Head drum). 2.) There is an obstruction in the tape path 3.) The infrared tape sensor is worn out or weak 4.) The loading Motor and/or Belt is worn out. You can try cleaning the tape path and see if that helps. With the cover of the machine off observe what happens when you press the play or pause buttons does the the pinch roller wrap the tape completely around the Video Drum? If it doesn't you could have a worn loading belt, loading motor or the gears that drive the loading ring may need a small amount lubrication. Problems with the loading carriage or the infrared tape sensor, or replacing the loading motor need to be looked at by a technician! Best Wishes Al. Smith

karen
Friday 3rd August 2001
2:43 am U.K.

kep@hotmail.com

I just purchased a sanyo betacord from a thrift store. It was only $8 so I figured I would give it a shot to see if it would work. It plays perfectly (suprisingly well actually).....except it eats tapes and has trouble ejecting (it does eject but it takes a couple tries).

I looked at the repair info on this site and read about the pinch roller. However I wasn't sure if this could also cause the beta to eat the tapes. Would replacing this part most likely solve both problems? If not what other part problems might be causing the eating of the tapes? Is this usually a simple cheap repair or is it usually a more expensive one? I'm just trying to decide what I should do with this newly aquired beta as I can't spend a lot of money fixing it in my current financial state. Thanks for your help.

Karen

BetaDude
Thursday 2nd August 2001
11:16 am U.K.

betamax53@hotmail.com

Alan: It's definately the VCR cuz the same tapes play perfectly fine on my other deck, which is an SL-HF500. And when my 300 does work OK, these same tapes play fine. Quite a few tapes I used were actually recorded on the 300 from DirecTV. And I mentioned, the machine was working perfectly up until about 2 weeks ago (nor has it been moved or anything from the living room).

I also tried recording on my 300 when in the "weird" mode and the video noise and color washout can be seen cleary when played back on the 500. I was able to actually grab some shots of the TV screen with a digital camera and I'll post them to some website. I think they may show more cleary than I can describe what exactly is happening.

But for now, my 500 is working perfectly fine I'm subbing it for the 300 until I can either figure out what the problem is or find a repair place to take a look at it. Just to add: My dream would be to get a "nice" deck like a 750, 900, 870D, etc. But being a poor college student, I don't really have the big bucks that they go for. :(

Allan A. Smith
Thursday 2nd August 2001
4:26 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 02,2001 12:02A.M.est.

Betadude; All the symptoms you describe (except the horizontal snow line) can be caused by HEAVY DUTY outside Radiofrequency or Microwave interference which penetrates the chassis and affects the circuits this fact plus the fact that it only occurs intermittently make me feel that somehow this is the cause. In opposition your other machine works perfectly! Questions to ask yourself are 1.) How big is your Sattelite dish? and how strong is its signal(?overload) 2.) Are there any Microwave or Radio towers in your vicinity. 3.) Does your problem still occur after you have disconnected your input source(try doing this)? 4.) Is your Bad Machine physically located near your good machine? 5.) Do you know of anybody near you who has a CB or Amateur Radio transmitter? It may be something else but this is whatI'm guessing it might because I've experienced this problem. Let me know some answers and maybe I'll be able to give you some concrete suggestions. Olive has good ideas for you also!Best Wishes! Al Smith.

Olive Thomas
Thursday 2nd August 2001
1:54 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Since you've been able to rule out hinkey tapes as the trouble my next guess would be an electronical failure either of loosened solder on a PC board or perhaps of something overheating (which would explain intermittant nature of the failure). A people have mentioned dried out capaciters as the source of their VCR problems. While maybe you can fix a cracked solder joint if it's obvious it sounds like your Beta needs expert care

There are Beta repairmen out there and unless you have some electronics expertise and the right test equipment you might want to have it checked out.

Here's the one I know for the Eastern US

Karl Kosower Electronic Services575 East Line Road Ballston Spa, NY 12020 518-885-7606

$45 initial test fee aplied to repair job - two weeks to a month turnaround.

Absolute Beta at URL

http://www.videos.net/absolutebeta/

also has a repair service - about the same fee and time. They're located in Remington VA

Ray Glasser's The Ultimate Betamax Video Guide

http://www.geocities.com/videoholic2000/index.html

Has a list of Beta repair places in the US

By the way if overheating seems to be a problem you might try better ventilation of the VCR, maybe attaching a small cooling fan in the back...

Olive Thomas
Wednesday 1st August 2001
10:25 pm U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

Anybody know how to lubricate a BMC 220 lens properly? I'm asking as a preventitive maintainace question as the lubricant on the one I'd bought recently seems a little thinned out. It had made a hot trip across county and the AF was sticking a bit till I cleaned the worst of the grit off of it. Maybe that the problem with Monty Ward's betacam above me. It's been pretty hot out west (where I'd got my camera from)...

Mad Beta Collector
Wednesday 1st August 2001
6:14 pm U.K.

PRShuttleworth@hotmail.com

Sigh...It's been a disapointing month for me, I hope this month is better...someone given me a old macintosh. well that has cheered me up but no more than looking at my collection of beautiful betamaxs and thanks again barry knapper for the pressie...Nothing much to say except I will be going to canada at end of this month so I will find out if the beta vcr is a RCA or not... (I bet it isn't but one way to find out..)Gotta go :-)

Montgomery Ward
Wednesday 1st August 2001
5:33 pm U.K.

latinopikachu@yahoo.com

Hello everyone! I have a Betamovie BMC-100, and I was wondering what could be causing an intermittent loading problem. I have replaced replaced the loading belt. Sometimes, the tape pulls up a little too far over the pin next to the drum, and I can tell when it's not going to record because the tape sounds as if it's being pulled taut against the video drum. (and it sounds like it's eating the tape but it's not.) Any help would be appreciated.

Lucrezia
Wednesday 1st August 2001
4:38 pm U.K.

lucreziagalaxy@aol.com

Hello Again,

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at which you can get any part for the Sony SL-C9 UB, complete replacement boards, dc/dc converter and even a complete Sony SL C9 -UB.

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Lucrezia

rob aldis
Wednesday 1st August 2001
10:16 am U.K.

raldis@tempo.co.uk

Morning everyone, you all sound like a freindly lot, I have a mission to find a Beta vcr for my partners uncle, I must admit I was 6 when my dad chucked out our old Beta vcr so I couldnt understand why when I go to "uncle Andy s" he only has beta and all he goes on about is beta, really the only reason I could see was that he is 74yrs and dosnt get out much, he wouldnt need to if he had a pc cos he would be talking to you lot all day.So what I need is a Sony Beta vcr in good nick, can anyone help with how I can buy one or where to dig for one.

Rgds,

Rob, Southeast.

Graham
Wednesday 1st August 2001
8:20 am U.K.

gsh38@ic24.net

Just to add to that it was the 12july when he put is advert and he even put is email down as tumblebumble[could have been a mistake,tumbledumble ??]

Graham
Wednesday 1st August 2001
8:10 am U.K.

gsh38@ic24.net

hello,just dropping you all aline to beware of what machines you purchase on ebay.co.uk.I have purchased asony c7 which was in full working order? to find that it does not load tapes ,full of dirt ,so it has not been used for years and the tuner is faulty.SO ihave paid 78.00 inc del for aload of old rubbish.It was an advert on this site[james [tumble dumble] SO BEWARE!!

Allan A. Smith
Wednesday 1st August 2001
7:00 am U.K.

allasmit@hotmail.com

August 01, 2001 2:49 A.M. est.

Betadude; I tend to agree with olive in that maybe you might have some bad tapes. Also the diagonal lines that move from the lower right of the picture tend to indicate a external source of extremely powerfull Radiofrequency Interference of the CB or Amateur Radio type.You might try adding or increasing the number of interference filters on your input connection or if worst comes to worst construct a enclosure of aluminum foil (the brute force method as told to me by the F.C.C.), and see if that helps! Best Wishes; Al Smith!

Olive Thomas
Wednesday 1st August 2001
4:19 am U.K.

OllieGurl@McKeesRockOnline.pa

To above... Did you happen to notice if it happens on a particular tape or a particular point on a tape? It may be nothing more simple that a badly bunged section of videotape. I once pulled open a tapeshell to find that some hosehead actually TIED the two broken ends of tape together to fix them! The quickest way to sever a head other then pissing off Don Corleone...

BetaDude
Wednesday 1st August 2001
1:20 am U.K.

betamax53@hotmail.com

Hello Beta Peoplez,

I own a Sony SL-HF300 deck that I bought about a year ago. Up until about 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. However, every now and then it goes from normal playback into this really weird "color-washout-and-distortion" situation (for lack of better way to describe).

Like, if I'm watching a tape when the deck plays normally, at sometime during the movie, a horizonal line of snow or static noise appears on the very bottom of the TV screen. It stretches across the whole width of the screen and is about a half-inch thick. Then the hifi sound starts filling up with crackling static before the picture gets washed out with what looks like a color spectrum (a good example of this happens w/ skin tones - a white person in the picture will suddenly have blue or green skin and they'll be all sorts of other weird or inverted colors!). Just after this happens, a line of noise flashes through the picture diagonally from the lower-right to upper-left of the screen. The hifi sound fluctuates in sync with this video noise, but the linear sound is still normal. Sometimes just leaving the VCR on for awhile in stop mode or shutting it off for a day or so will trigger either "normal" mode or weird "mode" or vice versa (50/50 chance) when I try to play a tape.

I don't think this problem is being caused by bad or dirty video heads cuz when the VCR does play normally, the picture is very sharp and clear. But I tried cleaning them using 3 different head cleaners (Sony L-25, Discwasher & an Allsop3) as well as taking the machine apart and doing a manual cleaning. This has no effect at all.

It almost seems to me that either the tape is playing at the wrong speed when in the "weird" mode or the tracking circuits are intermittant or failing. I suspect this cuz the the tracking control has no effect on the picture at this time.

But anyhow, sorry for the long post but I wanted to try and describe my problem as accurately as possible based on my observations. Does anyone here have a 300 that might have experienced similar behavior, and if so, what was the cause and/or what did you do about it? Is it possibly a mechanical or electronic problem?

I'd like to keep my 300 since it's in mint condition cosmetically. Even that little flipdown panel that commonly broke under the display is perfectly intact on mine.

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