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Hi there, Is anyone interested in an old JVC CR6060E Lo-Band toploading recorder. It was in working order but when I tried it recently it will rewind and fast forward but only clicks when put into play or record (LED light stay lit but no motors rotate etc). The machine is located in Northumberland/Cumbria border.
Yeah, Sadly I had to dump an almost working example recently ..couldn't give it away!
"Hi there, Is anyone interested in an old JVC CR6060E Lo-Band toploading recorder.The machine is located in Northumberland/Cumbria border." Any particular ditch?
If Steve (aka BennixVideo) is Reading this, then i'm interested inthe JVC porta Lo band you have for sale, but cant get in touch with you as my E-Mails can't get through to you!.Please can you get in touch via my E-Mail,or Leave a message here!
Does anyone have a service manual for a JVC CR-4400U low band portable? Thanks.
Stefan, without wishing to appear flippant,everything with the name Sony stamped on it is Japanese. If the machine was produced for the home market (Japan), then it is almost certainly NTSC standard and also 110volts. I would steer clear if you are(as I suspect) somewhere in Europe.
Anyone interested in 4 x Sony BVU200's (top loading high bands). One has a low band mod. Plus 2 x Sony BVE500 controllers. Plus one JVC PR4800 High band portable YCC mods, newish heads, low hours. Plus one JVC PR4400 lowband portable, low hours. Both machines with batteries and mains power and kangaroo cases. Plus one Key West video cart which will take a portable machine, monitor, batteries etc, very useful for high band users! Based in Bristol UK but can arrange delivery.
I have the opportunity to buy a BVU-800. The owner states that it s japanese, working with 110 Volts and probably only NTSC. Is that possible, or is there any chance that it also uses PAL colour?
Thanks for your replies in advance. Your advice is very appreciated.
Is there nayone who has got an manual for Sony DXC-M3 (AP) and some informations abot the BVU-820P ?
Hi everyone !
The M3 I have actually has a Fujinon lens (12-120), not a Tamron, but the Zoom servo does not work. Fired the Beastie up tonight and it all seems to work - well a picture came up on the monitor.Keep finding more stuff ! 2 x BVW 35s Beta SP field recorders and various flight cases. Have some Super 16 (£20 per 400') stock and a Bolex Super 8 camera (£125 - no offers). Anyone interested in Sony 9020 9" monitors in Portabrace bags ?
Might have a loband Umatic recorder but need to check if we are selling it first (!).
Have a Sony M3 (excellent cond.) camera with Tamron lens for sale. Also a metal flightcase type unit box (about 3 feet long) and a PVW camera head (with S-video output). Plus several Beta SP/ Digi Beta 30/32 minute cassettes. Several VCT 14 baseplates and DVW 700 plastic cases (the sort the cams come in). All sensible offers considered - am clearing out a camera store so these items must go !
London, UK .
Hei, can anybody send me a manual (pdf) for VP-5030/7030? What kind of tapes can I use for color and b/w? If anyone from germany is interested: I want to sell my VP-5030 in Aluminium Transport Case and excellent condition!
Ok, thanks for the replies Rein & Steve.
Steve - I do have to mention that I live in Germany - so in case you're in the UK, transport might be quite an issue.It would be expensive + most likely arrive with the tubes outside and the optics inside of the camera-body.. The viewfinder would get lost on the way somewhere..
Unless you're not sending away those cams for (almost) free, this would be more expensive for me than go get it somewhere around here.But thanks for the offer & the info you've sent me.
Rein, thanks for the hints, I've downloaded some schematics for building such an interface, so I'll see what I can do...
As to wire my own cables - I hate doing that - it's easy to solder a bunch of wires to some cheap plugs, but mine were newer as nice, clean & robust as manufactured,because I always used a bunch of wires laying around, mostly thin and not shielded.. I'd have to buy pre-configured cables, but these are expensive :).
Maybe I'll check the flea-market for some good-RS232-ones which I can rewire. I've even seen some cables which looked suspiciously like the DUB-cable. I'll grab that one - and rewire that thing in free-time.
About the protocol - I'll try to contact Sony, or just ask around the web. If they still provide some information - eletronically or printed - I'll grab it. - If they don't want to sign me a non-disclosure contract & pay 1100$ that is..
I browsed Adobe's web-site about Premiere & RS-422 support, but it appears to have "thinned out" a bit since '92 ;). I stumbled across EDL-support, but none mentioning if the format of the Panasonic A800 is supported. Or more precisely: In the A800's manual isn't mentioned what format it's using - I assume it's the sony-standard-format.
I wanted to write a driver for windows which converts the MCI-control commands to Sony's P2, and send it via RS-232 to the VTR's RS-422.
If I recall correctly Sony released such a driver once for the BVU-950 - but I'm not sure.The sense will be mainly to interface to various video-editing suites and similar applications.As a side effect, if two way communication will work properly, I could control the VTR via any MCI-controller - like Window's Media-Player (I somehow doubt the sense of that - but in worst case, this might be a handy remote - substitute for the lazy ones).
I'll try to do such a thing on various platforms if it will work.
As to Andrew - I dunno about the 5030, but in case nobody answered and you have access to the 5030. Check the "tape-craddle" for a small trail - it should be located in the first 1/3 of“n the bottom viewed from left.
I think all the lids on the Sonys are transparent, so you can easily check that. If you don't have access - maybe you can find some hi-res pictures on eBay :)
Hello! Did sony or anyone made/make a timecode board for a vo-5850? Where can someone find one?? Los Angeles. Thanks from across the pond!
Does anyone out there know if the Sony VP-5030 u-matic player can play the smaller kca 20 minute tapes as well as the large 60 minute ones.
Hi Jank,I have used the following cameras, Hitachi FP21 and JVC KY320, and had good pictures from them.I have 4 Hitachi FP21 cameras complete with Cables and CCUs ex my OB truck for disposal.Let me know if they are of interest.I also have the following lo band u matic kit for disposal,5 series player, 5 series recorder/player tghis has a colour fault.5 series edit plater with a servo problem, if interested let me know!!.Steve
Hi Jank, funny that Panasonic doesn't have the AG-A800 in their program. It is an industrial edit controller. Didn't they tell you who to turn to. Is this Panasonic in the States?
It isn't difficult to change the A800 to do PAL. You only need to flick switches inside the unit. The only problem is that the A800 only does 4-field editting. This isn't really a problem for cuts. But when you use autotag and make more than one a/b roll the cuts may be visable.
I can understand that converting the AG-6500 to do PAL can cost a lot of money. You probably need extra PCB's.
For controlling the VCR's you can make your own cables. You don't need to buy expensive original cables. The pin numbers are in the A800 manual.
I don't know the camara's you mentioned. Can't help you there. Tube camera's tend to give a "softer" picture than CCD camera's. But this doesn't necessarily mean that the horizontal resolution is less.
If you want to convert RS232 to RS422 you need an IC. But wat about the protocol?
Can anyone assist in finding the whereabouts of a service/belt kit for the sony vo-96oop? Sony no longer have them. Many thanks.
Does anyone want to give a BVU100P Hi-Band "portable" a good home? I don't have room for this oldie any longer. The last time I used it (years ago) it worked.
FOR SALE Odetics commercial playback systems TCS-2000 (BETACAM SP) JUST BEEN REPLACED IN PERFECT WORKING CONDITION ALSO ROBOT PARTS.IDEAL FOR BROADCAST TELEVISION STATION WANTING TO REPLACE THEIR OLD AMPEX SETUP. BETACAMS ARE PAL UNITS (THIS ODETICS CART MICHINE HAS NOT BEEN IN STORAGE.
hi, can anyone direct me to a good editing facility for U-matic tapes here in LA or Glendale California area?thanks,ferdie
Ok just added the list of cameras I 'd consider buying, I'd be very thankful if some happy owner, or someone who has worked with one of those gems could drop me a short mail/ or a short post on this board with his experience & rating.
DXC-1640P Sony (tube)
FP-21 Hitachi videocam
ITC-410T Ikegami Television cam
KY-15E JVC 3-chip Videocam
KY-210 JVC videocam (tube)
KY-320 JVC videocam
WV-1800/G Panasonic videocam
thanks in advance
Yes Rein, I browsed through the manual, and unfortunately just EDL up/download is possible. I just got a bit confused from the wiring diagram, which shows the [A800] <-> [Some Device] [PC] interconnection scheme.On [A800] -> [some device] the cables are crossed over, pins connect 1:1,2:2...same:same.
On the [PC] bar the pins where swapped - maybe that's saving the crossing.
** I mailed Panasonic's US broad.-div., asking if they still have a top-plate for the A800 (mine is warped), and if they have the PAL-PCB's for my AG-6500-vtr in order to convert it from NTSC.
Besides that they told me the PAL-conversion would cost a fortune, they told me that they don't have the A800 in their database, since it's an "industrial" (looks pretty broadcast to me :) - well not BBC type of broadcast, but maybe the local barn-TV -type of BC-equipment.
Furthermore: I am supposed to contact my local "field engineer" ... (who am I - ted turner ?)
* ok - and finally back to some questions:
Is it really neccesary to use IC's for a cheapskate RS232/422 converter ? Can't I hack it with just some wires (and maybe some resistors)?
* Anyone managed to use standard PC-cables for a RS422 to RS422 connection (controller 2 VTR) ?I thought of a 9-Pin-Null-Modem-Cable & 2 gender-changers (both need to be male-plugs) - but apparently RS-422 needs special wiring..
* and at last : DXC M3(p) vs. JVC BY/KY-110 vs DXC-1820 which tube to go for : your rating ? ( - I favor sharper images more than good color - but both would be great as well :)
Thanks for your patience with my confusing postings - help needed and appreciated (no, not mentally - just technically :)).
Jank, I am almost sure you need a standard modem cable. This information is in the users manual. You do realise that the RS 232 is only used to export and import the EDL? If you want to know more about the AG-A800 I maybe able to help you. I have used this controller for a couple of years.
I'm looking for a Sony BK-806/TC20 board for a BVU800 (TC and RS422).Anyone got one they want to sell?
Since I've obtained an AG-A800 along with my VO-9850, it's working and I'm fed up of leaving everything as received for the insurance, I'd like to unleash the following questions which are bugging me :- According to the manual, my A800 w. 2x 9Pin-Options has a RS232 (Data out), and two RS-422 (the options).
Am I to assume I can connect it straight to my PC - and if so, using a standard modem cable (or does it need to be a crossover/null-modem-type) ?
- Anyone aware of software (Premiere ?), which does support any of the two devices (A800,9850) ?
As far as I remember, whilst using Premiere in different versions intensely in past I stumbled over a version w. support for a BVU-950. .
** And very important **:Any (free) sources for the complete Sony-P2 protocol ? I'd love to program these Gems myself in free-time (since I'm trying to study CS, I'd love to do something productive )
- Since I have basically no free-time due to the intensity of CS, I'll have to skip repairing the V200E (I could, but it would be ready in like 5 year or so- instead of 3 days ) :
Are "the tubes" worth a shot ? - Especially the Sony & JVC 3-tube-ones caught my attention (DXC-M3?? / and KY/BY-110,etc)What I do fear is big power consumption - when dragging a "portable" VO-8800 on one shoulder, and a similar weighin camera on the other, I don't want to snap 28 accu's on my belt.(That reminds me of some shoot-'em-up games like Doom - never mind)
How long can I record using 1x NP-1 with a Sony M3P or JVC KY-110 for instance ?**
And finally: How does a VTR with a parallel-IF receive the jog-wheel data from a controller ? - are these serial bits/from the controllers-wheel's-A/D-converter ?
Just asking, because I have the pinouts from the 34P Panasonic-IF in front of me, and despite of 3 pins everything is just straight trough control (pull/push to ground/5V) of the front-buttons on the VTR. Just "Remote 19","Rem. 30" & "..33" are left. Are these for serial communication (Rx/Tx-Lines) ?
Thanks for any tips.
NEED BVU800P LOCATION TO SHIP NEW YORK. E-MAIL THE DETAILS.
The Panansonic M1 format (or Recam as it was also known) is a very rare format that never took off, it came out in 1983/84 and was in competition with Sony Betacam. The M1 format machine is component using YIQ, rather than YUV. The transport runs at 6 times the speed of a VHS deck and uses ordinary oxide VHS tapes. I do have a machine but due to its age it is not fully functioning and is purely a collectors piece. There is also an ENG version the AU-100, designed to dock on the back of an AK-400 camera.
Jank, when the V200 uses the small silver coloured electrolitic capacitors, they can cause the problem. Those horrible cap's start to leak over the years and can give you all sorts of problems. I had to replace ALL the silver cap's in my Sony CCD-V900 camera. You can smell the electolitic acid. It is worse when you heat up the connections of a cap with the soldering iron when you want to remove it. It is not an easy job to replace the cap's. It is easy to damage the tracks on the PCB.
Tapes, there's an outfit called MVS (I think) who sometimes have posts here ...look through the archives....
Your V2000 isn't a three chip cam. It could have ben dropped or other wise mechanically damaged and it's really anyone's guess what's wrong. Possibly a defective CCD but equally well it could be a signal fault... This message board (as far as I know) only supports basic text.. so yes uploading stuff to a website and giving us a link is a good idea.
Sorry - my evil computer produces return-codes which are incompatible with this message-board-system. I tried to make a circle /separated with ligher(longer) and darker(smaller) vertical lines...Maybe I'll try to upload some pics on my webspace.
..Just wondering :I got a Sony CCD-V200E "Video8 PRO" (made around '86).It's case is wrecked, on one side the whole plastic is basically missing.
The problem : It produces green bars (soft-edged). They're about 7, along the screen.
They appear to darken from left to right. I tried to put the lid on, in order to check if this effect it caused internally - the bars stayed there.
When I move the camera along a spotlight - the parts of the picture where the green bars are react more sensitive to the light (i.e. the whiteness/oversaturation is stronger.So a *round* spotlight appears like this - +$+$+$+$+$+$$+$+$+$ +$+$+just imagine the "+"-lines as being the darker/less sensitive array(smaller radius) and "$"-lines as the green-ones (light appears w.'bigger' radius)
What's going on ? Is this a triple-CCD-cam with defective G-CCD? Or do I just need to do some adjustment.
Thankful for any clues
In the UK please!!
Hello, it dosent seem like anyone's answering anything on here recently, but here goes:Does anyone have some second hand Low-Band U-Matic tapes for sale.Please E-Mail me if you do, as i would like to buy a few.20 min to 60 min tapes, anything considered as long as they are in a good state.
There, i've said it. now for the wait.
Hello !Just 'd like to ask - anyone offering some VO-9850 case-parts ?I am looking for * the top cover* the back-panel* the bottom-plate* the front-panel* and the IO-circuit-board on the back with the TC-in/out sockets.
... comes to it - a whole frame would be appreciated as well (w/or w/o panels)So if anyone wants to keep the electronics from a spare-9850 and doesn't need the case, or has a defective one, I'd be interested.
The case should look rather "ok" though - at least not worser than mine (home.arcor.de/jfkrecords/EVI/ - if someone interested how some parcel services tread insured pakets..).
+ Nearby (Germany) would be a great advantage, especially if someone want's to offer me something, and doesn't want/need to remove it's inner-parts.
Thanks in advance.
Has anybody worked with Canopus DVStorm SE?Is it easy to use?
Has anyone got any spare parts (upper head drum) for BVU 900/ 950 's? I have some brand new boxed heads for U-matics but I dont know which machines they are for, I think they are non SP heads but its just a guess.
Forgot to tell everyone that it's Classical music.
I've found a lot of CD masters on Digital quality U-matic tape. These where from a recording studio. Anyone interested?
Hello can i use any BVU800 and play Hi Band Umatic PAL Video. In Speics it says "Video signal system: CCIR monochrome, PAL colour"Please Feed me backKris
James.Is that an offer? Do you have such a machine? If I remember correctly the AU300 is a portable MII unit that is dockable right? MII was Panasonics answer to Betacam, but never quite reached the same popularity which makes them cheaper to buy second hand.Good pics though.
Anyone ever come across a Panasonic M format VTR model AU-300, that uses vhs tapes. Any collectors want to own such a machine?
Nigel, when menu number 200 is set to "enhanced", menu number 205 displays the drum hours and menu number 206 displays total time.
Paul, I don't know the BVE-600 but it seems to me that when you don't use the audio card you can do audio cuts only. (The recorder does the switching). When you want audio dissolves (a/b roll and fade in and out) you need the audio card. (Than the audio card does the switching, fades and dissolves). You allways can do your a/b roll and fades manually with an audio mixer.
Hi. I have a BVT 2000 which I would like to connect to a BVU 800. I do not have the multicore cable, so will need to use the other connections. Can anyone tell me which sockets on the BVU go to which sockets on the BVT.
I have just acquired a Sony BVE 600 Remote editing consol. I will shortly be getting 2 x U-Matic players and 1 x U-Matic Recorder. However, the BVE 600 does not contain the Audio card. Is it essential that I obtain one or can I edit without it. In other words, how can I edit between two tapes so that the audio follows automatically?
Also, does anyone know of a site so that I can download the BVE 600 user manual?
Confused Paul of Kent.
Pardon the obvous (to the experts around here) but can you use theRM440 edit Control with the following:Sony playback only unit: Looks like VO5630 but with no record buttonas a source unit.Sony VO5630 Record unit to record the finished copy after editing?.
If the RM440 is not suitable, then which edit controller is suitablefor these machines, they must be a type, as they look pretty darnsimilar, almost identical twins!. So there must have been a edit controller for these sometime?. Any answers Chaps?
If you have a SCART or other composite video input (A V input) on your TV you can use that...
I've just bought a Umatic 5630 to use for writing music for a TV series. I presumed that i was able to plug the RF out into my portable tv, but have been told that I need a modulator for the umatic. Is a special monitor needed for a Umatic or can I use the video out to somehow connect to my portable? If anyone could help it would be much appreciated.
I am looking for information re dial menu codes for a Sony VO9800 & VO9850.Need to check head hours and operational times. Believe codes may be 205 & 206.Any info would be gratefully recieved.
I have a DXC 3000P for sale (no PSU or Viewfinder)and an M2P (same unit but NTSC)These were both used in a video conference room that I decommissioned.Any Offers?
Stephen Barton - The Rectory Studio, London
Tuesday 30th October 2001
4:32 am U.K. ¶
Hi, you lot seem to know your stuff -I'm about to lay my hands on a good condition Sony VO 5630 with average hours on the heads, because a friend has just ditched a lot of his old gear on me to do as I please with, and I already have three Panasonic AG 7350 in my racks - question...1. how much should I ask for this unit? I've seen prices varying between 300 pounds sterling and 700 pounds, what's a good price to ask in that range?and2. Would anyone be interested?
Does anyone know where I can get hold of a remote for my Umatic VO-5630? ?
Does the BKU-705 time code card used for the Sony VO-9850 work with both PAL and NTSC machines, or is there a separate model for each?
Unused and boxed U-Matic cassettes for sale. 10 X UCA30 £25. 10 X UCA60 £30. 10 X UCA75 £35. Also some Sp, 10 X KSP30 £35. 10 X KSP60 £40. Some new 1" (C format) available. 30 £6, 60 £7, 90 £8, each.
Hi!I'm after info on the Sony DXC-1820P camera, can't seem to find anything in search engines, does any one have any info?THANKS!
Hi I recently bought a dxc M3a And I am looking for a manualand pinnouts for the 14p vcr connector and the power supply connector
Anyone having some tips ? I'd be gratefull
Hi, have available Sony RM-440 umatic editor with leads, Sony RM-500 remote panel, Sony RM-555 Multi machine controller (needs ext psu), Sony RM-444 Multi machine controller, Sony RMM-501 rack mount kits (2 new), also available side panels for '5' series machines only.Offers invited.
Yes Jank. I know how you feel. JUST how you feel. It really isamazing how much money people will spend for things. Example:on Ebay UK, there's a Hitachi FP-21 cam for £500!. It's about 15years old, and i've seen one for £120 before. Where do they get theirprices from.
There, There Jank. Better Luck next time.
Aaargh ! <- I just have to set off my frustration right now - I have bid over 500£ on a Vo 9850 - someone just snatched it in front of my eyes for just 3.33£ more.. It's (almost) no use - I'll give it just three more tries - one of 'em on ebay - one on a local auction, and then at a studio far from my place. If that won't work - I'll (have to) just reside with a 5850 - the people around just have too much money :-).
P.S.: Anyone who's managed to do the DUB 2 S-Video-mod and has hints / links to schematics ?
Thanks - I'm quitting -too depressed right now 8-) .
Ok, thanks Roland - I thought the BVU 820/70 would have more - in order to assure really flicker-free operation in low speed & still operation - apparently 2 heads are enough when they get moved by DT).
Jank - all edit vcr's have four heads - two record/play and two flying erase heads (for insert editing). This includes the 9850 and the 820 which also has dynamic tracking for slow motion replay.
Hi ! Sorry, this time I have to bother all the u-matic gurus here again 8-).* How many video-heads does the VO-9850 have ? <br>Still just two like the VO-9600 - or more (what I anxiously hope it does !).<br>
I kinda set so much money on such one that I'm afraid that this machine will dictate my future - so I have to prepare now. (There's no more money left for a BVU-950 - in fact I have bid so much - I could have gotten a 950 instead) :( .. Well never mind.
* And finaly how many does the BVU-820 have - I'm starting to favour that gem especially right now..
Thanks for any info in advance.
To rachael re the box of tapes and stills etc.....that cardboard box has gotta be worth at least something! ;)
..box full of u-matic porn... from the 70's..from a demolished hotel.. selling the stills...
*LOL* I think I found my destiny - finally a *very *cheap&effortless way to earn *lots* of money along my studying ! -
There's a lot of creative & bizarre input on this forum - it's never getting boring - always worth to take a look in here from time to time ! ;-))
I've got a box full of 3/4 in. u-matic video tapes.These tapes are adult videos,many of them are classics from the 70's I salvaged them from a demolished hotel.I've been told I can possibly sell the stills.How do I get the stills?I do not know a thing about the u-matic world.any ideas would be helpful.Thanx a bunch,Rachel
Hello Again. Does anyone have a viewfinder, eyepiece one or studioone for a ancient Hitachi FP15 camera?. Also is there any way toconnect a Microvitec CUB monitor to a U-matic?, this is a oldie i've got kicking about, some when new had composite inputs, but this onejust has a standard (8-pin i think) for a old school BBC Micro.I doubt it could be compatible, but it's the same colour as my SonyU-Matic, and i thought they would make a good pair.
As you can probaly tell, i wrote on here ages ago, but now i've gotmy hands on some oldie but goodie U-Matic Gear i need a little helpwith, so any info appreciated as always.
Louis K. Rayner:-)
I'm afraid I know little to nothing about Umatics, yet have been charged with the task of finding a proper Umatic player for playing a number of 3/4" tapes to a computer for web encoding. Any thoughts on a good system with reasonably high visual output that I should look for? Also, what kinds of outputs do Umatics use? I can only use S-Video or composite video inputs for my computer -- S-Video is obviously preferable -- and wondered what was possible with the Umatic format. Thanks so much for any help that you might be able to offer.Cheers,Alex Speier
I have some PAL and NTSC gear. I was under the impression just about all time base correctors would freeze on the last frame if they lost input sync, thus a picture was always displayed, but this doesnt happen on my BVT-500P(pal) and BVT -800 (ntsc), or these units dont support it?
Im just using the tuner of an old vcr as a reference video as an off air broadcast should be a reliable source as I dont have a sync or black burst generator, which is doing fine for my use as I have managed to lock my VHS's (AG 6500's brs-810e's) Hi8's (evo-9800's) and umats (5850's 7040's and 5630's) to one sync.
Im just a hobbyist so I dont get too technical, but I have a little broadcast background and have a few good friends who are retired OB techies so they explain alot of things to me but arent familiar with the sony umatic TBC's, and they think it should freeze on the last frame but they dont know as they dont know the particular units well.
Thanks for your time
John - Australia
PS Im using these TBC's as they are the only ones in my budget of under $100 each (about 35 uk pounds?) as everything else I see seems to start at about $1200
Yeah; I think it IS a DIN though for the life of me I can't remember the pin-outs....
What you could do is make up a Din-XLR adaptor then use any decent 12V supply. Theres a _SLIM_ chance I might have the pin-out somewhere. Gimmie a day or two and I'll try to find them
Hi to all,I have just purchased a Sony Vo-4800 3/4" portable recorder and would like to buy a AC adapter and power cord. I think the 12 volt in on the recorder is a 4 pin female din connection,because a regular XLR 4 pin male connector will not fit. Please help me if you can.
HiI am looking for BVU-950p time cod BKU-905
I have just purchased a Sony VO 7630 , it plays everything just fine,however when it records,it comes out in black and white and when i record off it to another source it comes out in black and white........any ideas ???
Thomas K: collector of all sorts of vintage electrical junk
Saturday 13th October 2001
7:22 pm U.K. ¶
Me again. How much is my 5.5 stone monster worth? I'ts weight in gold? It also came with a Sony camera AVC-3250ce. Amazing what's found under school stages...
Young collector of all sorts of electrical junk
Saturday 13th October 2001
7:16 pm U.K. ¶
Got an OLD VO-1810UK. Top loader won't eject so I can't get a tape in. Helpful hints (other that 'it's so old the skip's the place for it') gratefully recived.
Thanks for That JanK. Someone even poorer than me!. I work fulltime but live in my own house and have my own car, and i'm onlya 'umble factory worker, so that's why i can't afford more than£50 a unit. The hi-band porta's are cheap, i was offered one for £50,but i cant afford the rest of the Highband gear for it!.
All the best in your Quest!;-)
And on a final note : Louis - please don't throw away those puppies - donate, or sell 'em on ebay. I'm happy to find such one's for spare parts - or to repair it and give it another decade to live :). Anyone feeling to give away their BVU-950s now - I can provide adresses to send to ;)=).
Hi Louis !In case you're not in a hustle - there are some decent offers from time to time - even for HB & SP types ! I bought my VO-8800P w. TC for about 86 £ , I've seen a BVU-110P - which is a HB-portable for 55 £ and a BVU-150P (the top one) f. 166 £. Roughly converted from DM to £ w. local taxes.
I assume you know that 20mins is the max you can record on a porta.
As about buying one piece a month - whoo - I'm happy when I can scrap enough cash in 4 months - so you're quite lucky in comparison to me :-). I'll get a better part-time job soon - I hope it won't interfere with my studying though.
Best o' luck with your search for a Porta-U.
Hello again. Thanks very much for the Info JanK, and i'm going togo Low band Umatic, i simply could not afford the running costs ofHigh band!:-( The Lo-Band stuff is versatile, plus if it goes wrongand is not worth fixing you can just throw it away and get anotherfor £30-£50. As they say VHS is very horrible system, VHS was justa option, But Jank's right, for the price of a industrial VHS you can get a Low band. Much better quality, tapes are a quid eachsecondhand too!. The only bugbear is i'm going to have to buy a item of equipment onthly, As i'm not that wealthy, unfortunately!
So if anyone has any Lo-Band Porta VCR's (VO 8600?) or Players,Recorders, e.t.c. Kicking about that are in reasonable condition,enough to do basic editing with, please let me know!.
(But bear in mind i cant really spend anymore than £40-£45 a item,sorry folks, but that's the way it goes!)
Thanks again everyone.
Hi ! As to Louis:<how do you edit with U-Matic>Well, the masters around here can tell you more about this, but either with the machines themselves - or via controllers - as far as I know.<do you need the Sony RM440 as the be all & end all of it>Well, as forementioned not exactly - plus there are several controllers which are usable - depending on your type of Umatic.If you're going Lowband, I'm assuming you're looking for the VO-5850 /5800 / RM 440 trio. This rig is proven to work excellently. I've seen some selling their VO-5850 's with other edit controllers (don't recall 'em correctly - successors of the 440).It also depends on what for edit capabilities you need... I.e. just buttons (insert, edit,etc), or does it need to be the fancy jog-wheel, frame accurate (well, almost) pro controller. I don't know if it's true for the Sony world, but for Panasonics there where these two options - the first type most likely for industrial use, in duplication VTR setups.
<..20 quid Vivanco box and you're away!>Well, assuming you're from the UK, I've seen RM-440s for about 66 £.. I guess that's fairly cheap.
<best system to buy, either U-Matic, or a semi-pro VHS setup> .. trust me, you're going the same route as I did mate - keep your hands of the VHS-type - told by one having 2 "pro" VHS-VTRs (one industrial & one "broadcast"-like) around who was all about VHS vs everything for a long time - this should convince you ! :)
Pro VHS VTRs are just fine, when it comes to editing capabilities and reliability, they (some) have the same grade of features like other broadc. VTRs, but even the best VTR made a decade ago can't squeeze more out of itself than the standard would allow it.
In case you're not concerned about noise & resolution at all, two components of measuring video quality, you could go for a pro VHS - but with decent features - these are quite expensive !In comparison to Umatic you'll save cash only when it comes to tapes. And eventually you're having helical-audio w. up to 20kHz freq. range - mostly on the last released edit machines.
Umatic LB edit-machines are sometimes even cheaper than the VHS pro's, and almost every editing-Umatic has more sophisticated editing features than nearly any VHS-one. You can trust me - Beside an ancient JVC BR-6400TR (editing source VTR - like a 5800) I have a AG-6500 from Panasonic.You may browse the web for the Panasonic, this is a serious piece of VTR when it comes to VHS (it's like the BVU 850 of the VHS-pro's).
I use 'em as output machines after done all the editing on Umatic, only in case there's no option of presenting the material straight from an Umatic player.
Again, about every Umatic will give you better picture quality than any VHS. (Unless you're looking at the first machines - but who knows even those are knockin' I've been told).
My hint is, IF you want really amazing color & laser sharp pictures - by all means go for SP - if you can afford it. Or at least a HB. I have a portable SP - and I just love it.
Go for the VO-58xx ones in case you're just in editing "for fun", i.e. you're not planning on doing everything the next 10 years with 'em.. They'll keep your expenses low, give you all the editing capabilities & better-than-VHS image quality. Because in case you sold your house for a BVU editing suite, and than get confronted with the maintenance & repair charges you might easily get a stroke. In worst case you'll find yourself forking out an amount of ££ for which you could've got a Betacam/ or pro-SVHS instead.
My favourite VO is the VO-9600P - some of 'em have been very good value for money & came with the RS-232 option.
As to Matt, I'd love to get down to the UK, and Scottland, but I don't even have a drivers license - I spent all the cash on the techno stuff standing now in my living room. BTW - an used car is sometimes cheaper than a drivers license in Germ-land...
As to the drinking contest I'm sensing there, I have to admit I'm seeing serious competition from the Scotsmen, luckily our Bavarian co-Germans are keeping the statistics high :-). By the way my Grandfather was brewing his own quite excellent stuff, - but that would get way out of topic. So beware in about 4-5 years after I've made my diploma - after declaring myself as cargo onto an airplane to the UK, I'll jump onto the next cargo waggon heading to Scottland with a couple of barrels under my arms - meanwhile I'm on intense training at the local Irish Pub around the corner ;-)
my average two cents - JanK
Yeah mate; also if you go to 'septic' land you're liable to be lugging back an NTSC box. Not a good-ol 'proper' PAL machine....
Actually I got a mate to bring in a Sony Mini DV cam from Hong Kong for me but that's another story.
What you need to do ol' bean is pile into the trusty Merc and drive your way across to the UK> Drink much beer, fall over a lot and return with receipts 'proving' you bought many trusty PAL U-wrappers for the price of a few flaggons! Head for Scotland and we'll demonstrate how the Germans don't hold the monopoly on either quality or quantity of beer <VBG>!
Hello all again. I've got yet another U-Matic question. I've asked tons, i know, but how do you edit with U-Matic, do you need the SonyRM440 as the be all & end all of it?, or is there some other way, asit's much simpler with VHS as a example, a 20 quid Vivanco box andyou're away!, i dont know the U-Matic options for this except the RM440. Plus does anyone know how you connect a Commodore Amiga Genlockto a U-Matic, if at all possible, as i suspect they are designed forhome video use. If any of you chaps can help with answers, i'm alwaysgrateful. I've been trying to get my head round what best system to buy, either U-Matic, or a semi-pro VHS setup with quality gear & industrial VHS machines. It's been a real struggle with so many pros and cons, and all the questions will decide my final actions!.
Thanks again everyone,
Hi !First of all thanks for the hints Roland & Matt.As about buying some sick BVUs: Unfortunately I haven't seen one for offer in Germany as long as I live ... The only one I've seen is one on Ebay, the seller took it out of the Auction claiming it got defective.. He didn't respond to my eMail in which I told him I'd go for the BVU even if it's defective... Maybe he got some kind of generous offer outside of Ebay.. Anyway I've seen a lot in the US - even working ones going out for $100... In such moments I almost start to regret I don't live in the US :). Although I will go there for holidays in a couple of years.. But I assume they'll arrest me if they'll see me draggin' a 45lbs box into the airplane - smiling like a madman & guarding it like a kid it's box o' candy.
I had some modded 5 series machines a decade or so ago. The kits were fitted by the supplier though.....
If you're that handy why not simply get a couple of sick BVUs and repair them?
<You're in mushroom-stuffing territory mate!> *LOL*.Well, I planned to get an already dead Umatic, and wanted to try the conversion on a also not 100% ok BVU 110P - which I could get for a couple of dimes. In case I'll manage that - I will sacrifice my VO-8800P :) - In worst case - the company that sold me it still has one around .. but I'm pretty sure I won't wreck it - I''ve done several crazy things already - and in case of failure I recovered everything successfully so far..
Ok, and here I go again..
Anyone ever heard something about the VO-5850 /5800 highband upgrade (kit ?). Any info on how to modify those decent Umatics to HB (links, infos, store/manufacturer locations) greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
You're in mushroom-stuffing territory mate!
Look; a basic LB recorder-player is no more expesive than a player only. A 7630 should cost no more than about £100 , 5 series not a lot more.
I honestly doubt if your project is feasible and all you may achieve is some very dead machines.....
Hi ! Ok, this is a little bit odd, but maybe someone could help me out. I have a VO-8800P which is a portable SP-recorder.
I'm considering to modify it to be able to playback & record on the big tapes. So my questions would be - doest the reel distance differ between the small & the big format ? I've considered to buy some kind of Umatic LB player, and to stuff in the electronics (heads, servos & brakes,etc) into the big transport mechanism.Should this work ? Maybe I should look out for some player build at about the same time (if Sony has made some drastic changes in design) ?
Thanks for any hints..
Hey I have some umatic kit for sale rather cheap in South Australia, drop me a line if your interested, players (series 5 and 7) and recorders (series 2 and 5) also have some parts and bits and pieces maybe even a remote or two...have to make space to move house!
thanks for your time
Being a Scotsman NOW you're talkin' MY language! <GGG>
Are you Keen On u-matic Video recorDers? There's a Russian drink in there somewhere!
Well, being from Russia is cool.....
Are you keen on umatic video recorders?
Hello Friends of the Never Ending Story (I think). I have a SONY portable VO 6800 and a CameraControlUnit for SONY Camera DXC 1820. I want to sell them.Best regards!
I used to use a bremi 12V supply as sold for CB radios.... At the moment I have an old supply rescued from a Betamax portable. I just modified it with a socket ...which is usually an XLR 4-pin; similar to the XRL mic connectors? I thing the old v04800 used a 4pin DIN socket but most use an XLR
BTW folks SOME portable VCRs notably JVC's have an XLR socket but with non-standard wiring; becareful!
Usual wiring is +4 -1 ; I favour the heavy two-cor orange lawn moer cable for making up power leads and of course yo can make up your own battery packs etc.....
Ok, sorry for bothering - I solved the issue - it apparently was the power-supply. I used an old PC-AT-type, which supposed to deliver enough power, but didn't. I tried the same with a newer & more powerfull ATX-type w. 12V @ 8A - it works almost perfectly now..
It appears, that either I did something wrong when I connected the ground-pad to the case of the equipment, or it really just was not powerful enough. I checked the fluctuations with an oscilloscope, and you could see the line going way up & down when the mechanism was in action (especially when the brakes were active).Oddly, even though the voltage displayed is just a tad higher than before (11.8V vs 11.6V), the warning LED doesn't flash at all.
So everything is fine now - thanks for your patience about my meterlong postings :-)P.S.: Does anyone know the exact description/naming of the plugs used for these 4-pin power-supply-connectors ? I'd like to get a socket for the plug, so that I can establish a more stable connection.
Hello !First of all, I'd like to thank all repliers, which helped me not only on this forum, but also per eMail with very valuable info so far.
In the meantime I found two interesting offers for a BVU-950P, for which I was actually saving my money, and later a very cheap VO-8800P. I bought the VO-8800P now, which came in a great cond., very low hours and TC. The dealer made a colorbar test which the VTR mastered flawlessly, but later at home I found the following oddity :
Even though I am using high quality cabling, with at least a 10MHz bandwidth at it's weakest point, I get a very nasty picture.
The picture is sharp, but sharp edges/transitions appear to "tear-out"/ get doubled to the right. If letters are displayed,it's like a drop shadow made out of a dimmed version of the same frame. + It appears a little bit noisy (but just very little).
The picture reminds me very much of a slightly mistuned channel preset on a TV. (You get this mirrored & shifted image, and it's noisy)
The cables used shouldn't be the cause, but I checked them again, just to be sure. My main concerns are now - the weakness of my custom power-supply- HF distortion from the power-supply- HF leakage from the PC hooked up as a monitor
The power-supply should deliver 12V at 7 Amperes, however the warning LED lights a lot. When the VTR gets in action, I get voltage drops below 11.2 Volts. Odd, that a 7A powersupply isn't able to handle a <1.5A consuming VTR..
Anyone who knows the VTR/ or other portables that had such a problem ? If no, am I to assume it's the power-supply ?Thanks for any tips.
P.S.:I dug out a couple of ferrite-rings, so I'll experiment a bit with'em on the cables.
Hi again, Is there someone who knows about the JVC BY-110E (see post upon) and can help me to do a white balance on it, like a procedure with the name of the buttons to push ;-) because i'm quiet lost with this old camera... the video signal is orange/red colored and i suppose that could be a solution...Thanks for you helpvincent
P.S sorry for my english
HI,I'VE READ SOME POST ABOUT THE JVC BY-110E ON THIS CHAT. I'VE BOUGHT A USED ONE BUT UNFORTUNETELY THE MANUAL WAS MISSING... IS THERE SOMEONE WHO KNOW HOW TO GET ONE (LIKE DOWNLOAD ON PDF FORMAT...)?THANKS FOR YOUR HELP