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Erasmo
Friday 5th October 2007
3:28 pm U.K.

erasmo@scoregroup.com

Does anyone have a PAL U-MATIC deck available for sale?

James
Wednesday 3rd October 2007
12:41 pm U.K.

pseudojam@hotmail.com

Thanks, will keep an eye out for an FS -200, as there seems to be a problem with my AG-8600, despite changing all the bad capacitors. Another model that has built in TBC and is of pro quality is the AG-4700

Regarding secam high band U-matic, i have a manual for the BVU-50S, which is a high band secam portable u-matic from 1979. I think there was a secam version of the BVU -200 as well.

colin99
Sunday 30th September 2007
9:54 pm U.K.

colin99@bigfoot.com

To James re VHS with TBC:I'm impressed with a Panasonic NV-FS200 I picked up on eBay for next to nothing. The TBC can perform nothing short of miracles on some otherwise unplayable tapes, and the Digital Dropout Compensator is a real bonus too. I've once had a multi-generation tape though which played better with the TBC switched off. The FS200 is a TBC-equipped version of the FS88 (I have one of those too).

PS: Re that VP9000 Umatic I repaired (just to get back on topic!), I measured the current through the N25 ICP (fuse) to the 5V rail derived on the servo panel and it was around 240mA. It is now fitted with the proper N25 having obtained some cheaply from Cricklewood Electronics.

PPS: Still looking for an answer as to whether SECAM recordings existed in High/SP band, or was it only on Low Band where SECAM was recorded differently to PAL onto the tape?

Colin

serpico009
Friday 28th September 2007
6:27 pm U.K.

mark@bullfrogfilms.com

thanks Roderick, giving it a try now. It gets used infrequently here at the office to dub copies from old SP masters, it may collect some dust. But god knows what it went through before we bought it! They're easy to replace cause the used ones are fairly cheap in the US but the catch is you end replacing them after a year. I'm fairly competent in a DIY, learn-as-you go kind of way but I don't have the skills to fix these things or replace parts.

Roderick
Thursday 27th September 2007
10:25 pm U.K.

rode98476rick21@stage0923safety0293.com

Serpico,It sounds like the machine you are using has had a rough life! Have you tried cleaning the heads? When you do, make sure to also clean the ACE head (big black thing in the tape path before the drum). It reads the control pulses from the tape which could be the cause of the 'rolling picture'.

serpico009
Thursday 27th September 2007
5:17 pm U.K.

mark@bullfrogfilms.com

Buckethead: Thanks so much, that did the trick! I had to do it 3 or 4 times but it finally worked. Once the tape was retracted I just manually ejected it using the wheel, no problem.

But (there's always a but!) a new problem has arisen: very bad picture output! I've tried both of the vid outs (2) and it is outputting a very noisy picture, lots of static/snow and some rolling bars.

The signal goes from the Umatic to a VCR and from the VCR to the monitor. I checked all the connections and the bad signal originates from the Umatic. I fear I did something irreprable when I fixed the other problem.

colin99
Wednesday 26th September 2007
11:01 pm U.K.

colin99@bigfoot.com

SECAM on Umatic:Can someone answer this please: We all know that PAL and NTSC recordings can be in low, high band or SP. But I've only ever seen SECAM on low band machines. Is this because (like VHS to S-VHS) SECAM was not natively supported by the High Band and SP machines, but instead transcoded to PAL for recording?

The reason this matters is I want to be able to cover every possible Umatic tape, and SECAM High/SP seems elusive, hopefully because it doesn't exist.

Thanks for any help,

Colin

www.video99.co.uk

colin99
Wednesday 26th September 2007
10:32 pm U.K.

colin99@bigfoot.com

Re VP9000: Fixed it! The 5V supply from the servo panel, which is distributed to logic around the machine, is derived from a 12V line via a discreet regulator. In the circuit is a N25 semiconductor fuse, that's 1A fast-blow. It was reading 600 Ohms. I replaced it for tonight with a subminiature 1A glass fuse and the machine runs fine. I'll order up a N25 fuse later.

How about that, and without a service manual!

Colin

www.video99.co.uk

colin99
Wednesday 26th September 2007
5:36 pm U.K.

colin99@bigfoot.com

VP9000 not running - help!I've bought a VP9000 (USA model) which I need urgently for playing some NTSC High Band tapes. The machine arrived in a strange state, the loading ring was almost completely laced up despite no tape being in there and the carriage being up. I powered up the machine on a big 110V transformer, and the head drum sat there spinning. Dolby and SP LEDs lit on the front but no other lights (ie no counter display), which is all very wrong.

I wound the loading ring back to the start position and powered up again, and usually the head would just spin (eventually going slower but never stopping). Occasionally at power up the loading motor would run for a moment so getting it closer to the almost-laced position again. No other response.

I suspect a PSU fault but have no diagrams for this model. Any help most appreciated. Anyone else seen this kind of problem?

Thanks!

Colin

www.video99.co.uk

Werner
Friday 21st September 2007
4:59 pm U.K.

marktplaats33@hotmail.com

Hi all,I've got a serious problem concerning my Vo-5800PS.When I insert the tape, it goes in fine, but when it is in, it automatically start Fast-Forwarding the tape. Pressing the Stop or any other key doesn't do anything. After 1,5 minutes of tape forwarding it stops.None of the key work now, except the Eject key (which is a relief :-)).But I can't get the tape to Rewind or Play.Anyone had this issue before, or even better, know how to solve this?Thanks for your respons(es).Werner

colin99
Friday 21st September 2007
3:59 pm U.K.

colin99@bigfoot.com

Wanted

I require a working NTSC Umatic player (or recorder) which can accept large and small tapes. Importantly it must be able to play High Band / SP format recordings, so the VP5030 and similar machines are unsuitable. What would be appropriate would be an NTSC VO-9600 or VP-9000 designed for the USA market for example. The 110V mains requirement is not an issue.

Price must be sensible including UK shipping.

Cheers all,

Colin

www.video99.co.uk

buckethead
Friday 21st September 2007
1:48 pm U.K.

trout395@att.net

serpico009, try this : Remove the top cover. Pop up the hinged pc board that covers the reel table. What you need to do is activate the optical cam sensors (side by side at 1 o'clock). I found it easiest to do if you remove the single screw from the sensor mounting bracket and swing it up for access. You might be able to do it in place, if you have the patience and dexterity. Cut a piece of cardboard from a cereal box, about three or four inches long and 1/4 inch wide, and bend it to form an L shape. Starting with the power off, insert the cardboard L into the left sensor only (the one closest to 12 o'clock). Keeping that sensor activated, rotate or push the cardboard tool so that both left and right sensors are activated. Next, remove the tool from both sensors and the unit should unload the tape.

serpico009
Wednesday 19th September 2007
4:20 pm U.K.

mark@bullfrogfilms.com

Roderick, sorry my wording was a bit convoluted. I have the Umatic hooked up to a VCR, and I'm recording VHS copies from some of our older Beta-SP masters. Def not jamming a VHS tape into the Umatic!

Buckethead, first off awesome name! My friend and I have gotten way into "The Elephantman's Alarm Clock", great album. We've gone through 3 used Umatic units within the past 2 years or so, and in at least one case it was because of a cracked or worn out belt (which a local repair shop would have fixed for $300!). I've had this happen before when I let the tape Umatic tape run to the end, and have fixed it by alternating between FF and RW until the tape catches.

"I manually activated the final loading solenoid and that unloaded the tape so it could be ejected." I'd like to try this, what should I be looking for inside the unit?

Thank you again, you guys are princes.

come
Wednesday 19th September 2007
3:53 pm U.K.

come@talkover.fr

Hi there Umatic fans ;)

I was wondering if there is any way to remotely control a VO-5800PS (which has a 33 pins remote connector) with traditional 9pin rs422 protocol? Via wiring or via a convertion box?

Thanks!

buckethead
Wednesday 19th September 2007
3:01 am U.K.

trout395@att.net

craig, nigel and serpico009 : I have a sony vo-9600 which was doing the same thing, loading the tape and then locking into standby mode. I manually activated the final loading solenoid and that unloaded the tape so it could be ejected.

What caused the problem was the belt located at 9 o'clock on the reel table (12 o'clock being the rear of the unit). When the belt gets old and stretched it loses the necessary bite to move the tape loading arm to the final lock-in. My replacement belt was a square .075 x 4.4".

With no cassette in the unit, the composite ring with a wide cam to trip the two side by side sensors activates both. Note the sensors at about 1 o'clock. When a tape is put in and lowered by the loading motor, the cam is rotated to the rightmost sensor only. When play is pressed and the loading arm loads the tape around the head, the cam should rotate and activate the leftmost sensor only. With the belt stretched or slipping, the cam will stop just short of the leftmost sensor and voila, "standby mode" is activated.

Hope this helps !!

Roderick
Tuesday 18th September 2007
9:42 pm U.K.

rode98476rick21@stage0923safety0293.com

Serpico, this doesn't make sense!You're playing a VHS tape in a U-matic machine? Where does the Betacam tape comes into play?What machines are you using?

Anyway, if you are using old stock it may be suffering from 'sticky tape' syndrome. Try manually resetting and ejecting the tape by turning the worm wheel on the right hand side of the loading mechanism. Takes a while and is boring but your best bet.

serpico009
Tuesday 18th September 2007
3:54 pm U.K.

mark@bullfrogfilms.com

Afternoon, I'm hoping someone has advice for the following problem

I was dubbing a VHS tape from a VO-9600, using a Beta SP tape. The Beta SP tape played to the end and now will not eject, rewind, fast forward, etc. The Umatic is in standby mode. I've had the top and bottom of the unit off to see what could be done; the tape is still wrapped around the drum head, and it looks like possibly there is not enough tape/slack left for the unit to catch? At any rate, when powered on the head spins for about 2 seconds then whirrs to a stop. If I press and hold rewind when powering the unit up, the indicator light illuminates briefly and then the unit goes into standby mode. Is it possible to manually rewind the tape when it is in this psition?

doctor
Monday 17th September 2007
12:43 pm U.K.

doctor@doctor.who

The Value of home recordings

Do you have tapes full of old TV shows you recorded in the seventies? Don't throw everything away without looking!

This may come as a surprise to some, but TV studios until recently did not keep tapes of everything. The tape was expensive and so it was recycled, or thrown away. Some well-known examples of series with episodes gone missing are "Dad's army" (one or two episodes missing) and "The avengers" (first series missing) and "Doctor Who" (over a hundred missing episodes).

If you are about to junk your early tapes, check http://www.missing-episodes.com first. Just to make sure.

James
Tuesday 4th September 2007
9:52 pm U.K.

pseudojam@hotmail.com

Hello, anyone have any experience using the BVT-810P TBC with the the VO-5850P or VO-9600P u-matic (low band). I know the BVT-810P is intended for use with BVU high band/sp u-matics.There was never a low band machine with TBC and just working out best way to transfer some low band tapes. I also believe the VO-9600P would give a better picture than the older VO-5850P.Also, off topic, looking at transfering vhs-dvd using machine with TBC, for a better transfer. A good machine that comes to mind is the Panasonic AG-8600 (player with built in TBC), i believe one of the last industrial models Panasonic made. My question is, do domestic machines give a better picture (forgetting about TBC) due to HQ circuits and similar playback enhancements that perhaps the older industrial machines dont have. Modern vhs decks seem to give a very good picture with very little dropout. Obviously, a domestic machine doesnt allow for connection of external TBC.Any thoughts on best machine for transfer? I always rate the Panasonics over the JVC and Sony, but the Panasonics are prone to cap failure.

Andy
Monday 3rd September 2007
12:37 pm U.K.

a-princz@zahav.net.il

I would go for eBay. Everything sells over there.

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