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Phil Mutton
Tuesday 21st March 2000
5:15 pm U.K.

p_mutton@hotmail.com

For Sale:

U-Matic tapes all lengths. New and used once. As many as you need.Also Beta and 30 minute VHS tapes.Contact for offers or details.London Area.

Tom Mountford
Monday 20th March 2000
11:45 pm U.K.

tom.mountford@talk21.com

Hi all -

Thanks to Matt for raising another opinion of the book I recommended. I'd never go as far as to say that the book recommended would ever qualify anyone as an engineer. Some of the techniques used are definitely of very dubious merit, but I'd hope any reader would be able use their intelligence to spot shoddy 'work-arounds' and know when to get better advice. I'm a video editor by trade and I certainly would never take a glass brush to the heads of anything I use during the week.

The book aside, I think Matt's raised a very important issue for all users of more 'mature' gear. I'd like emphasise that the old adage 'No user-servicable parts inside' usually means exactly that - no matter how good your intentions are!

I wish I were a fully qualified engineer, In truth I'm an eighteen year old with a multimeter, a scope and a regular flow of very cheap dying kit (but I'm learning). When I was twelve I was adamant I knew exactly what I was doing as I picked up a Stanley knife to deal with a head clog on my Ferguson VideoStar - with the best intentions. My heart was also in the right place when I tried to 'correct' a minor pincushion on a PVM and wrote-off an otherwise perfectly good monitor. Believe me, it's all too easy to try and rectify a fault you created whilst fiddling with a preset by twiddling your screwdriver in another one until you've twisted every damn preset there is. You then end up at the repair centre with an expert choking with laughter as they hand you their invoice for an entire recalibration... I've been there once before and it was no fun.

Judging by the amount of technical queries on the page I don't think I'd be alone in seeing a need for some sort of 'Online Engineering Guru' who could give us definite suggestions for rectifying our problems. Perhaps the machine gallery could include a listing of the known common faults for each model and the action that needs taking? A page of maintainance tips, short engineering courses, a list of U-matic spares and their prices, where to get decks serviced outside of London?

They're just thoughts, but I'm sure there must be quite a few people out there who've taken the top off a U-matic just to remove a jammed tape and wound-up needlessly making a very costly mountain out of a molehill.

Cheers - Tom M

Phil Traina
Monday 20th March 2000
10:56 pm U.K.

dtha@aol.com

Have 20 beta movies and over 200 recorded tapes from HBO, Movie Channel, etc. Will sell $1 each and shipping charges. Tapes can be recorded over. Good condition/all recordings have Movie Titles.

Merijn van den Berg
Sunday 19th March 2000
1:53 pm U.K.

fantv@hotmail.com

Hi there!!

I'm from Holland, Hoofddorp.

I'm looking for a Umatic Recorder and an editcontroller

Thanks Merijn

Matt Rathney-Quinn
Saturday 18th March 2000
11:15 pm U.K.

matt@tfgtv.freeserve.co.uk

>>>>I’ve a fantastic book I got a couple of years back about solving the most common problems that occur with age. It’s American and deals only with VHS but the principles involved are pretty generic to every format. It very clearly explains the tools needed, removing dirt, cleaning the tape path, cleaning or replacing heads, fixing broken boards and buttons, lubrication, as well as the more advanced stuff… and it makes it clear at what point you should put the top back on and leave it to an expert :-)

Definitely worth getting for only £14.99 (a heck of a lot cheaper than most of my engineering books) you can get it on the high street in Maplin or from Amazon –

Home VCR Repair Illustrated – Richard C. Wilkins ISBN 0-8306-3711-7 <<<<<<<

I have to sorta disagree with Tom on this one. I have the book he refers to and regard it as one of the funniest things I've read in years! Certainly some of the techniques work but you could seriously wreck a machine quite easily; Don't use it as a guide to replacing the heads on a BVU for instance!

that's not to say it isn't of some use; One of the best ways of learning is by actually doing it and you could certaily learn a lot from attacking the old top-loader or VHS you got from the car boot sale for a fiver... Just DONT have a pop at something you need for work!

The JVC 6060 somebody asked about; I have one it's circa '75 I think; like Tom says make sure it's set to record on internal sync and do try a tape recorded on it in another deck.... might not be recording a control track.

I paid £10 for a pristine one to sit beneathe the living room telly and frighten the neighbours.... Probably about as much as you want to pay for one of these things; It's old and not particularly exciting.

Matt

Ron Conley
Thursday 16th March 2000
3:49 am U.K.

ronconley@msn.com

CAN ANYBODY HELP, I have a sony 5800 that worked fine last week but now after inserting a tape if play or record is pressed the light willgo on for a couple of seconds then the unit goes into standby modeand no functions will work, stop eject ect. the tape loads up and goesaround the drum fine then it goes into standby and a low hum can be heard the unit has to be shut off and turned back on before the tape will eject, also in fast forward if stop is pressed the machine goes into rewind it did not do this before I would like to know whats wrone and if it is worth fixing this is a well used but very clean machine and I know the heads are good any help would be appreciated

YSTV
Wednesday 15th March 2000
6:37 pm U.K.

ystv@york.ac.uk

We have a VP 9000P Hi band player and controller. Never been used, still in it's original box. Even smells new!Looking for £600Any offers?

aliakbar
Monday 13th March 2000
3:29 pm U.K.

aliakbar@satyam.net.in

HELLOI WANT A VO-9850 P (SONY)PAL EDITING RECORDER (SECOND HAND)THOSE WHO CAN DELIVER IN INDIA CAN CONTACT MEALIAKBAR

Tom Mountford
Monday 13th March 2000
10:18 am U.K.

tom.mountford@talk21.com

Hi John. I’m not too sure about the plugging on the back of the 6060, it probably works on internal sync. However, if it doesn’t and the picture rolls in record and won’t lock it may need a reference input synchronized to the video input (probably a BNC marked REF.IN) Although it should record non-sync without affecting the playback quality. It's only a slight possibility (but then I’m working on Beta SP theory). I think the 6060 is somewhere around 1977 - 1980, price is anywhere from a fiver to around £60 - £70 depending on condition.

... and Hi Dave. On the matter or maintenance there’s very few things that can go wrong with a video recorder that you can’t fix yourself – Provided you know what you’re doing!

I’ve a fantastic book I got a couple of years back about solving the most common problems that occur with age. It’s American and deals only with VHS but the principles involved are pretty generic to every format. It very clearly explains the tools needed, removing dirt, cleaning the tape path, cleaning or replacing heads, fixing broken boards and buttons, lubrication, as well as the more advanced stuff… and it makes it clear at what point you should put the top back on and leave it to an expert :-)

Definitely worth getting for only £14.99 (a heck of a lot cheaper than most of my engineering books) you can get it on the high street in Maplin or from Amazon –

Home VCR Repair Illustrated – Richard C. WilkinsISBN 0-8306-3711-7

John
Sunday 12th March 2000
1:23 am U.K.

john116@ozemail.com.au

Hi, this may be a difficult question to help me with, but here goes. I have a JVC U-Matic machine, model CR-6060E. It plays back OK, but does not record well. On recording, it seems not to record any synch signals, so the playback is watchable (just) but does not ever lock.

Tapes recorded on another machine playback just fine. Any hints, or what to look for would be great. I have some electronics knowledge, and can find my way around a schematic, but that's about it. Also, does anyone know when these machines were made, and approximate value today. Lastly - anyone have any service information I could buy for this machine?

Thanks,

John

Matt Rathney-Quinn
Friday 10th March 2000
12:40 pm U.K.

matt@tfgtv.freeserve.co.uk

Well, if you're careful and are prepared to buy the test gear and learn how to use it you can service your own; On the other hand if you're not an electronics engineer or 'noodler' , and you need the machines for work get it done properly. London Repair Centre who have a link from the main page should be able to help in your area.

As a word of caution I know a dog-breeder who turned his attention to a perfectly good set of highband kit and completely screwed it up; NOT a stupid guy by any means, just unbelievably arrogant and wouldn't take a telling; his fnal results look like they were shot on VHS. this particular plonker was also arrogant enough to tell a duplictor it was _their_ machines at fault when they couldn't read his stuff properly. Now this clown had bought 'all' the gear and all the books and just ploughed in there ..but setting these machines up properly is a bit like a black art which takes many years to perfect.

What I'm basically saying is don't tinker unless the machines have a non-critical role and you can put it down to an educational experience or funds really are so limited that there's no alternative.

Matt

Dave
Friday 10th March 2000
12:02 pm U.K.

the_boglin@yahoo.com

I run a student TV station, which still runs on U-Mat. Most of our machines are starting to show degraded picture quality. Does anyone have any servicing manuals/tips. Is it worth trying to do it ourself, or best to take it elsewhere? If so, how much should we look to pay? (We are in central London)

Thanks in advance,

Dave

Walter Steenvoorden
Wednesday 8th March 2000
1:27 pm U.K.

waltersn@zonnet.nl

Hi, i think it would be a great idea to open a site for 1 inch tape!, i myself have 2 1 Inch Cintra Machine's, Cintra is an east-german professional standard build by Robotron Elektronikwerke. Yep the same guys that made stazi telephone bugs, stazi computers etc. I Believe cintra is the best analog 1 inch system, with separte R,G,B-channels and a higher tape speed then sony's 1 inch system. It's better then U-matic or Hi 8 or even M-II!.Only editing takes up a lot of time.Does anyone have spare parts for Cintra machines (i.e. Robotron CV20's)

Charlie B
Tuesday 7th March 2000
10:10 pm U.K.

ecliptica.ww@virgin.net

Hi folks,

I've a load of tapes recorded on a Sony Portapak back in the early '70s which I'd like to convert to a current format.

Someone gave me a VTR which will probably play the tapes, but I've no compatible screen.

Can anyone recommend a PC video card which might be programmed to capture the composite video which (if I recall correctly) is 405 line monochrome.

Thanks for any helpful suggestions.

Temi
Tuesday 7th March 2000
11:42 am U.K.

yomsybabs@hotmail.com

Hi,I'm a total novice with these u-matic tapes but i want to supply an advertising company in my country.I presently stay in Indonesia,so can you please tell me a)the nearest place to buy it around here and the price I should expect for one.b)if it's adviseable to buy it in Europe than in Asia 'cos it's actually going to Africa.Thanx in advance.

Matt Rathney-Quinn
Monday 6th March 2000
10:37 pm U.K.

matt@tfgtv.freeserve.co.uk

Hi Mark,

As Tom said standard composite video outputs and inputs are available on all Umatic machines; As a non-Linear source they work just fine and the lack of Y/C connection really is just a moot point.

The Y/C on the dub jack BTW is very different from S-Video; In theory it should be possible to fit a Y/C socket but I see no need to bother myself.

As a shooting source even low band Umatic is a good alternative to SVHS. Though the resolution is theoretically akin to VHS, good tv pictures are not dependant on lines alone...

I shoot a lot of _Very_ low budget stuff and only resort to SVHS when ahndling difficulties preclude the use of a Umatic portable..

Like Tom says ..go for it!

Tom Mountford
Sunday 5th March 2000
9:44 pm U.K.

tom.mountford@talk21.com

Sorry guys, mistyped my email on last message. A thought just occured to me, why not have a page for one-inch? I know it's not exactly a format most would consider for use in their desktop video system(machines over 70Kg!) but it's still a damn good performer and goes for much the same prices as U-matic.

Tom Mountford
Sunday 5th March 2000
9:32 pm U.K.

tmountford@talk21.com

Hi Mark, all U-matic decks have composite video in and out on BNC connectors (socket adaptors are only a quid if your card takes video via phono). More recent decks do have a YC socket but unfortunately this is different to S-Video. Most low-bands have phonos for audio in and out together with three-pin cannon sockets. Hi-bands only seem to have cannons so you may need to wire up a few custom leads. U-matic gives far greater pictures than S-VHS. It's also far more stable, hard wearing and can go a lot more generations - and it's cheap. Go for it!

Jaap
Sunday 5th March 2000
2:10 pm U.K.

jaapjr@knoware.nl

Who can help me to find the servicemanual for the Sony BVU 850 -P ?Thanks !

Mark
Sunday 5th March 2000
4:16 am U.K.

marcarri@idt.net

I am currently doing some non linear editing on a miro capture card,using S-VHS as a source. I'd like to be able to go from a 3/4 source into the computer, but I'm not sure if that is possible to do with my system. The only inputs into my capture card are either composite or S-VHS. Can I use a 3/4 U-matic with this computer editingsystem? Any info would be great.Thanks! marcarri@idt.net

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