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I've just bought a Umatic 5630 to use for writing music for a TV series. I presumed that i was able to plug the RF out into my portable tv, but have been told that I need a modulator for the umatic. Is a special monitor needed for a Umatic or can I use the video out to somehow connect to my portable? If anyone could help it would be much appreciated.
I am looking for information re dial menu codes for a Sony VO9800 & VO9850.Need to check head hours and operational times. Believe codes may be 205 & 206.Any info would be gratefully recieved.
I have a DXC 3000P for sale (no PSU or Viewfinder)and an M2P (same unit but NTSC)These were both used in a video conference room that I decommissioned.Any Offers?
Stephen Barton - The Rectory Studio, London
Tuesday 30th October 2001
4:32 am U.K. ¶
Hi, you lot seem to know your stuff -I'm about to lay my hands on a good condition Sony VO 5630 with average hours on the heads, because a friend has just ditched a lot of his old gear on me to do as I please with, and I already have three Panasonic AG 7350 in my racks - question...1. how much should I ask for this unit? I've seen prices varying between 300 pounds sterling and 700 pounds, what's a good price to ask in that range?and2. Would anyone be interested?
Does anyone know where I can get hold of a remote for my Umatic VO-5630? ?
Does the BKU-705 time code card used for the Sony VO-9850 work with both PAL and NTSC machines, or is there a separate model for each?
Unused and boxed U-Matic cassettes for sale. 10 X UCA30 £25. 10 X UCA60 £30. 10 X UCA75 £35. Also some Sp, 10 X KSP30 £35. 10 X KSP60 £40. Some new 1" (C format) available. 30 £6, 60 £7, 90 £8, each.
Hi!I'm after info on the Sony DXC-1820P camera, can't seem to find anything in search engines, does any one have any info?THANKS!
Hi I recently bought a dxc M3a And I am looking for a manualand pinnouts for the 14p vcr connector and the power supply connector
Anyone having some tips ? I'd be gratefull
Hi, have available Sony RM-440 umatic editor with leads, Sony RM-500 remote panel, Sony RM-555 Multi machine controller (needs ext psu), Sony RM-444 Multi machine controller, Sony RMM-501 rack mount kits (2 new), also available side panels for '5' series machines only.Offers invited.
Yes Jank. I know how you feel. JUST how you feel. It really isamazing how much money people will spend for things. Example:on Ebay UK, there's a Hitachi FP-21 cam for £500!. It's about 15years old, and i've seen one for £120 before. Where do they get theirprices from.
There, There Jank. Better Luck next time.
Aaargh ! <- I just have to set off my frustration right now - I have bid over 500£ on a Vo 9850 - someone just snatched it in front of my eyes for just 3.33£ more.. It's (almost) no use - I'll give it just three more tries - one of 'em on ebay - one on a local auction, and then at a studio far from my place. If that won't work - I'll (have to) just reside with a 5850 - the people around just have too much money :-).
P.S.: Anyone who's managed to do the DUB 2 S-Video-mod and has hints / links to schematics ?
Thanks - I'm quitting -too depressed right now 8-) .
Ok, thanks Roland - I thought the BVU 820/70 would have more - in order to assure really flicker-free operation in low speed & still operation - apparently 2 heads are enough when they get moved by DT).
Jank - all edit vcr's have four heads - two record/play and two flying erase heads (for insert editing). This includes the 9850 and the 820 which also has dynamic tracking for slow motion replay.
Hi ! Sorry, this time I have to bother all the u-matic gurus here again 8-).* How many video-heads does the VO-9850 have ? <br>Still just two like the VO-9600 - or more (what I anxiously hope it does !).<br>
I kinda set so much money on such one that I'm afraid that this machine will dictate my future - so I have to prepare now. (There's no more money left for a BVU-950 - in fact I have bid so much - I could have gotten a 950 instead) :( .. Well never mind.
* And finaly how many does the BVU-820 have - I'm starting to favour that gem especially right now..
Thanks for any info in advance.
To rachael re the box of tapes and stills etc.....that cardboard box has gotta be worth at least something! ;)
..box full of u-matic porn... from the 70's..from a demolished hotel.. selling the stills...
*LOL* I think I found my destiny - finally a *very *cheap&effortless way to earn *lots* of money along my studying ! -
There's a lot of creative & bizarre input on this forum - it's never getting boring - always worth to take a look in here from time to time ! ;-))
I've got a box full of 3/4 in. u-matic video tapes.These tapes are adult videos,many of them are classics from the 70's I salvaged them from a demolished hotel.I've been told I can possibly sell the stills.How do I get the stills?I do not know a thing about the u-matic world.any ideas would be helpful.Thanx a bunch,Rachel
Hello Again. Does anyone have a viewfinder, eyepiece one or studioone for a ancient Hitachi FP15 camera?. Also is there any way toconnect a Microvitec CUB monitor to a U-matic?, this is a oldie i've got kicking about, some when new had composite inputs, but this onejust has a standard (8-pin i think) for a old school BBC Micro.I doubt it could be compatible, but it's the same colour as my SonyU-Matic, and i thought they would make a good pair.
As you can probaly tell, i wrote on here ages ago, but now i've gotmy hands on some oldie but goodie U-Matic Gear i need a little helpwith, so any info appreciated as always.
Louis K. Rayner:-)
I'm afraid I know little to nothing about Umatics, yet have been charged with the task of finding a proper Umatic player for playing a number of 3/4" tapes to a computer for web encoding. Any thoughts on a good system with reasonably high visual output that I should look for? Also, what kinds of outputs do Umatics use? I can only use S-Video or composite video inputs for my computer -- S-Video is obviously preferable -- and wondered what was possible with the Umatic format. Thanks so much for any help that you might be able to offer.Cheers,Alex Speier
I have some PAL and NTSC gear. I was under the impression just about all time base correctors would freeze on the last frame if they lost input sync, thus a picture was always displayed, but this doesnt happen on my BVT-500P(pal) and BVT -800 (ntsc), or these units dont support it?
Im just using the tuner of an old vcr as a reference video as an off air broadcast should be a reliable source as I dont have a sync or black burst generator, which is doing fine for my use as I have managed to lock my VHS's (AG 6500's brs-810e's) Hi8's (evo-9800's) and umats (5850's 7040's and 5630's) to one sync.
Im just a hobbyist so I dont get too technical, but I have a little broadcast background and have a few good friends who are retired OB techies so they explain alot of things to me but arent familiar with the sony umatic TBC's, and they think it should freeze on the last frame but they dont know as they dont know the particular units well.
Thanks for your time
John - Australia
PS Im using these TBC's as they are the only ones in my budget of under $100 each (about 35 uk pounds?) as everything else I see seems to start at about $1200
Yeah; I think it IS a DIN though for the life of me I can't remember the pin-outs....
What you could do is make up a Din-XLR adaptor then use any decent 12V supply. Theres a _SLIM_ chance I might have the pin-out somewhere. Gimmie a day or two and I'll try to find them
Hi to all,I have just purchased a Sony Vo-4800 3/4" portable recorder and would like to buy a AC adapter and power cord. I think the 12 volt in on the recorder is a 4 pin female din connection,because a regular XLR 4 pin male connector will not fit. Please help me if you can.
HiI am looking for BVU-950p time cod BKU-905
I have just purchased a Sony VO 7630 , it plays everything just fine,however when it records,it comes out in black and white and when i record off it to another source it comes out in black and white........any ideas ???
Thomas K: collector of all sorts of vintage electrical junk
Saturday 13th October 2001
7:22 pm U.K. ¶
Me again. How much is my 5.5 stone monster worth? I'ts weight in gold? It also came with a Sony camera AVC-3250ce. Amazing what's found under school stages...
Young collector of all sorts of electrical junk
Saturday 13th October 2001
7:16 pm U.K. ¶
Got an OLD VO-1810UK. Top loader won't eject so I can't get a tape in. Helpful hints (other that 'it's so old the skip's the place for it') gratefully recived.
Thanks for That JanK. Someone even poorer than me!. I work fulltime but live in my own house and have my own car, and i'm onlya 'umble factory worker, so that's why i can't afford more than£50 a unit. The hi-band porta's are cheap, i was offered one for £50,but i cant afford the rest of the Highband gear for it!.
All the best in your Quest!;-)
And on a final note : Louis - please don't throw away those puppies - donate, or sell 'em on ebay. I'm happy to find such one's for spare parts - or to repair it and give it another decade to live :). Anyone feeling to give away their BVU-950s now - I can provide adresses to send to ;)=).
Hi Louis !In case you're not in a hustle - there are some decent offers from time to time - even for HB & SP types ! I bought my VO-8800P w. TC for about 86 £ , I've seen a BVU-110P - which is a HB-portable for 55 £ and a BVU-150P (the top one) f. 166 £. Roughly converted from DM to £ w. local taxes.
I assume you know that 20mins is the max you can record on a porta.
As about buying one piece a month - whoo - I'm happy when I can scrap enough cash in 4 months - so you're quite lucky in comparison to me :-). I'll get a better part-time job soon - I hope it won't interfere with my studying though.
Best o' luck with your search for a Porta-U.
Hello again. Thanks very much for the Info JanK, and i'm going togo Low band Umatic, i simply could not afford the running costs ofHigh band!:-( The Lo-Band stuff is versatile, plus if it goes wrongand is not worth fixing you can just throw it away and get anotherfor £30-£50. As they say VHS is very horrible system, VHS was justa option, But Jank's right, for the price of a industrial VHS you can get a Low band. Much better quality, tapes are a quid eachsecondhand too!. The only bugbear is i'm going to have to buy a item of equipment onthly, As i'm not that wealthy, unfortunately!
So if anyone has any Lo-Band Porta VCR's (VO 8600?) or Players,Recorders, e.t.c. Kicking about that are in reasonable condition,enough to do basic editing with, please let me know!.
(But bear in mind i cant really spend anymore than £40-£45 a item,sorry folks, but that's the way it goes!)
Thanks again everyone.
Hi ! As to Louis:<how do you edit with U-Matic>Well, the masters around here can tell you more about this, but either with the machines themselves - or via controllers - as far as I know.<do you need the Sony RM440 as the be all & end all of it>Well, as forementioned not exactly - plus there are several controllers which are usable - depending on your type of Umatic.If you're going Lowband, I'm assuming you're looking for the VO-5850 /5800 / RM 440 trio. This rig is proven to work excellently. I've seen some selling their VO-5850 's with other edit controllers (don't recall 'em correctly - successors of the 440).It also depends on what for edit capabilities you need... I.e. just buttons (insert, edit,etc), or does it need to be the fancy jog-wheel, frame accurate (well, almost) pro controller. I don't know if it's true for the Sony world, but for Panasonics there where these two options - the first type most likely for industrial use, in duplication VTR setups.
<..20 quid Vivanco box and you're away!>Well, assuming you're from the UK, I've seen RM-440s for about 66 £.. I guess that's fairly cheap.
<best system to buy, either U-Matic, or a semi-pro VHS setup> .. trust me, you're going the same route as I did mate - keep your hands of the VHS-type - told by one having 2 "pro" VHS-VTRs (one industrial & one "broadcast"-like) around who was all about VHS vs everything for a long time - this should convince you ! :)
Pro VHS VTRs are just fine, when it comes to editing capabilities and reliability, they (some) have the same grade of features like other broadc. VTRs, but even the best VTR made a decade ago can't squeeze more out of itself than the standard would allow it.
In case you're not concerned about noise & resolution at all, two components of measuring video quality, you could go for a pro VHS - but with decent features - these are quite expensive !In comparison to Umatic you'll save cash only when it comes to tapes. And eventually you're having helical-audio w. up to 20kHz freq. range - mostly on the last released edit machines.
Umatic LB edit-machines are sometimes even cheaper than the VHS pro's, and almost every editing-Umatic has more sophisticated editing features than nearly any VHS-one. You can trust me - Beside an ancient JVC BR-6400TR (editing source VTR - like a 5800) I have a AG-6500 from Panasonic.You may browse the web for the Panasonic, this is a serious piece of VTR when it comes to VHS (it's like the BVU 850 of the VHS-pro's).
I use 'em as output machines after done all the editing on Umatic, only in case there's no option of presenting the material straight from an Umatic player.
Again, about every Umatic will give you better picture quality than any VHS. (Unless you're looking at the first machines - but who knows even those are knockin' I've been told).
My hint is, IF you want really amazing color & laser sharp pictures - by all means go for SP - if you can afford it. Or at least a HB. I have a portable SP - and I just love it.
Go for the VO-58xx ones in case you're just in editing "for fun", i.e. you're not planning on doing everything the next 10 years with 'em.. They'll keep your expenses low, give you all the editing capabilities & better-than-VHS image quality. Because in case you sold your house for a BVU editing suite, and than get confronted with the maintenance & repair charges you might easily get a stroke. In worst case you'll find yourself forking out an amount of ££ for which you could've got a Betacam/ or pro-SVHS instead.
My favourite VO is the VO-9600P - some of 'em have been very good value for money & came with the RS-232 option.
As to Matt, I'd love to get down to the UK, and Scottland, but I don't even have a drivers license - I spent all the cash on the techno stuff standing now in my living room. BTW - an used car is sometimes cheaper than a drivers license in Germ-land...
As to the drinking contest I'm sensing there, I have to admit I'm seeing serious competition from the Scotsmen, luckily our Bavarian co-Germans are keeping the statistics high :-). By the way my Grandfather was brewing his own quite excellent stuff, - but that would get way out of topic. So beware in about 4-5 years after I've made my diploma - after declaring myself as cargo onto an airplane to the UK, I'll jump onto the next cargo waggon heading to Scottland with a couple of barrels under my arms - meanwhile I'm on intense training at the local Irish Pub around the corner ;-)
my average two cents - JanK
Yeah mate; also if you go to 'septic' land you're liable to be lugging back an NTSC box. Not a good-ol 'proper' PAL machine....
Actually I got a mate to bring in a Sony Mini DV cam from Hong Kong for me but that's another story.
What you need to do ol' bean is pile into the trusty Merc and drive your way across to the UK> Drink much beer, fall over a lot and return with receipts 'proving' you bought many trusty PAL U-wrappers for the price of a few flaggons! Head for Scotland and we'll demonstrate how the Germans don't hold the monopoly on either quality or quantity of beer <VBG>!
Hello all again. I've got yet another U-Matic question. I've asked tons, i know, but how do you edit with U-Matic, do you need the SonyRM440 as the be all & end all of it?, or is there some other way, asit's much simpler with VHS as a example, a 20 quid Vivanco box andyou're away!, i dont know the U-Matic options for this except the RM440. Plus does anyone know how you connect a Commodore Amiga Genlockto a U-Matic, if at all possible, as i suspect they are designed forhome video use. If any of you chaps can help with answers, i'm alwaysgrateful. I've been trying to get my head round what best system to buy, either U-Matic, or a semi-pro VHS setup with quality gear & industrial VHS machines. It's been a real struggle with so many pros and cons, and all the questions will decide my final actions!.
Thanks again everyone,
Hi !First of all thanks for the hints Roland & Matt.As about buying some sick BVUs: Unfortunately I haven't seen one for offer in Germany as long as I live ... The only one I've seen is one on Ebay, the seller took it out of the Auction claiming it got defective.. He didn't respond to my eMail in which I told him I'd go for the BVU even if it's defective... Maybe he got some kind of generous offer outside of Ebay.. Anyway I've seen a lot in the US - even working ones going out for $100... In such moments I almost start to regret I don't live in the US :). Although I will go there for holidays in a couple of years.. But I assume they'll arrest me if they'll see me draggin' a 45lbs box into the airplane - smiling like a madman & guarding it like a kid it's box o' candy.
I had some modded 5 series machines a decade or so ago. The kits were fitted by the supplier though.....
If you're that handy why not simply get a couple of sick BVUs and repair them?
<You're in mushroom-stuffing territory mate!> *LOL*.Well, I planned to get an already dead Umatic, and wanted to try the conversion on a also not 100% ok BVU 110P - which I could get for a couple of dimes. In case I'll manage that - I will sacrifice my VO-8800P :) - In worst case - the company that sold me it still has one around .. but I'm pretty sure I won't wreck it - I''ve done several crazy things already - and in case of failure I recovered everything successfully so far..
Ok, and here I go again..
Anyone ever heard something about the VO-5850 /5800 highband upgrade (kit ?). Any info on how to modify those decent Umatics to HB (links, infos, store/manufacturer locations) greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
You're in mushroom-stuffing territory mate!
Look; a basic LB recorder-player is no more expesive than a player only. A 7630 should cost no more than about £100 , 5 series not a lot more.
I honestly doubt if your project is feasible and all you may achieve is some very dead machines.....
Hi ! Ok, this is a little bit odd, but maybe someone could help me out. I have a VO-8800P which is a portable SP-recorder.
I'm considering to modify it to be able to playback & record on the big tapes. So my questions would be - doest the reel distance differ between the small & the big format ? I've considered to buy some kind of Umatic LB player, and to stuff in the electronics (heads, servos & brakes,etc) into the big transport mechanism.Should this work ? Maybe I should look out for some player build at about the same time (if Sony has made some drastic changes in design) ?
Thanks for any hints..
Hey I have some umatic kit for sale rather cheap in South Australia, drop me a line if your interested, players (series 5 and 7) and recorders (series 2 and 5) also have some parts and bits and pieces maybe even a remote or two...have to make space to move house!
thanks for your time
Being a Scotsman NOW you're talkin' MY language! <GGG>
Are you Keen On u-matic Video recorDers? There's a Russian drink in there somewhere!
Well, being from Russia is cool.....
Are you keen on umatic video recorders?
Hello Friends of the Never Ending Story (I think). I have a SONY portable VO 6800 and a CameraControlUnit for SONY Camera DXC 1820. I want to sell them.Best regards!
I used to use a bremi 12V supply as sold for CB radios.... At the moment I have an old supply rescued from a Betamax portable. I just modified it with a socket ...which is usually an XLR 4-pin; similar to the XRL mic connectors? I thing the old v04800 used a 4pin DIN socket but most use an XLR
BTW folks SOME portable VCRs notably JVC's have an XLR socket but with non-standard wiring; becareful!
Usual wiring is +4 -1 ; I favour the heavy two-cor orange lawn moer cable for making up power leads and of course yo can make up your own battery packs etc.....
Ok, sorry for bothering - I solved the issue - it apparently was the power-supply. I used an old PC-AT-type, which supposed to deliver enough power, but didn't. I tried the same with a newer & more powerfull ATX-type w. 12V @ 8A - it works almost perfectly now..
It appears, that either I did something wrong when I connected the ground-pad to the case of the equipment, or it really just was not powerful enough. I checked the fluctuations with an oscilloscope, and you could see the line going way up & down when the mechanism was in action (especially when the brakes were active).Oddly, even though the voltage displayed is just a tad higher than before (11.8V vs 11.6V), the warning LED doesn't flash at all.
So everything is fine now - thanks for your patience about my meterlong postings :-)P.S.: Does anyone know the exact description/naming of the plugs used for these 4-pin power-supply-connectors ? I'd like to get a socket for the plug, so that I can establish a more stable connection.
Hello !First of all, I'd like to thank all repliers, which helped me not only on this forum, but also per eMail with very valuable info so far.
In the meantime I found two interesting offers for a BVU-950P, for which I was actually saving my money, and later a very cheap VO-8800P. I bought the VO-8800P now, which came in a great cond., very low hours and TC. The dealer made a colorbar test which the VTR mastered flawlessly, but later at home I found the following oddity :
Even though I am using high quality cabling, with at least a 10MHz bandwidth at it's weakest point, I get a very nasty picture.
The picture is sharp, but sharp edges/transitions appear to "tear-out"/ get doubled to the right. If letters are displayed,it's like a drop shadow made out of a dimmed version of the same frame. + It appears a little bit noisy (but just very little).
The picture reminds me very much of a slightly mistuned channel preset on a TV. (You get this mirrored & shifted image, and it's noisy)
The cables used shouldn't be the cause, but I checked them again, just to be sure. My main concerns are now - the weakness of my custom power-supply- HF distortion from the power-supply- HF leakage from the PC hooked up as a monitor
The power-supply should deliver 12V at 7 Amperes, however the warning LED lights a lot. When the VTR gets in action, I get voltage drops below 11.2 Volts. Odd, that a 7A powersupply isn't able to handle a <1.5A consuming VTR..
Anyone who knows the VTR/ or other portables that had such a problem ? If no, am I to assume it's the power-supply ?Thanks for any tips.
P.S.:I dug out a couple of ferrite-rings, so I'll experiment a bit with'em on the cables.
Hi again, Is there someone who knows about the JVC BY-110E (see post upon) and can help me to do a white balance on it, like a procedure with the name of the buttons to push ;-) because i'm quiet lost with this old camera... the video signal is orange/red colored and i suppose that could be a solution...Thanks for you helpvincent
P.S sorry for my english
HI,I'VE READ SOME POST ABOUT THE JVC BY-110E ON THIS CHAT. I'VE BOUGHT A USED ONE BUT UNFORTUNETELY THE MANUAL WAS MISSING... IS THERE SOMEONE WHO KNOW HOW TO GET ONE (LIKE DOWNLOAD ON PDF FORMAT...)?THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
I have a VP9000P low/hi/sp player for sale. It is in excellent condition, reasonable offers considered.
hi,I ve the u matic equipment posted above and also looking for apartner to work with me in london area. I live in ıstanbul,turkey. I want to move with my equipment and work in london area..I bought equipments from middlesex/london several years ago..I've got an adv company and tvstudios ın ıstanbul that producing tv commercials.corporate training and doc.films..I gratuated fine arts academy ın ıstanbul(ınterior architect). Advertising ,producing ,broadcasting and decoration aremy main professional areas..ıf anybody interested mail methanks
Hi all,I've the following u-matic video equipment,avaible for sale or co-operation,listed below...1-Sony Dxc 3000 PK camera(CCD)2-SonyBVU 150 inc TC.Portable recorder3-Sony BC Batt.charger and 2xBP90 batt.4-DPL 4x2 AC Adapt. and dpl bp90 batt.5-Sachtler vıdeo 14 tripod and dolly.6-Sony dxf-40CE7-Optex 7.5 wide angle8-Sony Lo23 remote zoom and focus control9-ARV 13.2 7 Ah battery belt10-sony BVT 810 time base controller11-sony DME 450 Digital multi effect unit12-Sony VO 9850 SP inc/TC Edit machine13-sony VO 9800 SP inc/TC "14-Sony BVE 600 edit contr. 3 machine for A/B roll15-Echolab DV video mıxer16-VIP SPG17-sony PVM 1320 monitor18-sony PVM 1442 QM monitor(3 oty)19-Pesa character genarator20-sony MXP21 audio mixer21-textronic waveform mon.4020A22-text. vectorskope 1421
We had been asked to play Umatic tapes from England in our Media Center here in Berlin. Is there a preferable way to buy a Umatic recorder (which one ?, where and how expensive?) for very rare occasions per year? Is there anybody here in or around Berlin, Germany who could offer such a machine?Thank youBerndt
Help !!!!! I have four Sony 5800 umatic decks with the same problem. Audio, on each deck, will not record but will play back from a tape that has been recorded on a known good deck. I swapped the audio board from a working 5850 and the problem goes away. This has to be a common problem with the 5000 series decks. It is something on the audio board. Would anyone out there have information about this problem ? Thanks, Mike Pruitt (McAlester, Oklahoma - USA)
Hello Again everyone. This time does anyone know about a JVC KY 2000Camera, what is it? Studio only or a portable?. Sorry to ask again,but i've seen one of the forementioned for £100, and i need your helpin identifying!. Please:-)
To the chap who started work in TV 20 years ago:I pity the poor soul who had to carry the 1" recorder.....
Once again thanks to those in the U-Matic community,And any info, well..You know the score!.
I have a small problem, and wondered if someone else out there may have the solution.
I have been asked to sync up a friends Protools mix 24 system to a Umatic Beta video players, (not sure at this stage which model - although I know it can shuffl play and record).
I have never done this before, and so need pointing in the right direction.
A MOTU AV timepiece is currently running all midi connections into Protools (ver5), on a standard G4 mac.
My main concern is with establishing which type of connection is required to allow the Protools Mac to 'talk' to the Umatic Beta player (or visa versa). Is the MOTU AV timepiece all that I need, or is another purchase is required?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Many thanks once again
I used to have a BY110 about 15 years ago. 3 tube job, good pictures. Not dockable, though. I used to use it with a 4400 U-matic portable.Batteries were alkaline jobs, cannot remember the type. What does the "E" signify? The one I had was a 110P. (Pal).
I started in the industry in 1979-80. My first job for a broadcast COmpany was as a trainee EFP ENG camera op. Mostly we were on Highband Umatic though there were 1" portables..........
BY110? Wasn't that A dockable? Didn't it come with an SVHS back.
Make sure the camera is complete and works properly ...No sure if this IS a dockable but if it's got no recorder make sure there is a 'standalone' back with it.
Louis, The JVC BY-110 was a good lower end pro camera, but can you get the batteries?, it can be powered from a mains pack or a portable recorder. Don.
Louis, The JVC BY-110 was a good lower end pro camera, but can you get the batteries?, it can be powered from a mains pack or a portable recorder Don
Hello Again. Thanks to all the people who have offered advice andequipment, and i'm following those leads up! (no pun intended!)
Does anyone know what a JVC BY-110E Camera is like?. I have seen onewith lens at £150, that's the cheapest camera i've seen. Any infogratefully recieved as i would be a bit mad if i buy a Bad 'un!.
Slightly OT, does anyone know what Camera's companies like TV-AMand the ITV Regionals used before Betacam came along. Any peoplewho worked in the industry at the time, (or still do!) Know?
does any one know where I can get around 4 or 5 low band, small umatic tapes (used or unused)?
something that is:sony KCS-10XBR or KCS-20XBR
Different size tapes....
Full size Umatic tapes are (by today's standards) HUGE! Much biger than a VHS cassette and we know how bulky full size VHS equipment is in portable form. Just as VHS-C was developed for camcorders and smaller portable units Sony developed a cut down cassette for Umatic. In fact Sony did it first!
Small tapes run 20 minutes; you can pack an hour of tape into the bigger shell. Portable machines accept only the small tapes but mains machines can take either (usually) without any form of adaptor.
Umatic is esentially an obsolete format. I think I must have been among the last few folk originating on low band Umatic commercially. That's why machines are so cheap. There is virtually no professional demand for low band machines or portables. High band BVU machines are often wanted for archiving. Cameras; well they have other uses so if in good order something like an M7 is still sough after to some extent. But ALL the kit is relatively cheap, and it's that way because it's served it's purpose. Be careful though; a lot of stuff is really just plain knackered!
Just because the format is largely obsolete however does not mean it's dead. There is great potential for film students, serious amateurs and of course those breaking into the profession on a seriously low budget. I see no reason for instance why a short feature or drama or whatever could not be originated on Umatic, edited using either traditional methods or NLE and rendered or copied out to SVHS or better still DV. In fact this is pretty much how I was working until a few months ago.
Hello there. I am a amatuer filmaker, who would love to embrace theworld of U-Matic, after bloody awful VHS, but i am not sure at all about anything about U-Matic. i understand Hi & Lo bands, but what idon't understand is stuff like: different size tapes for portables?,Plus why is something that would have cost £thousands new, availablenow for £150, is this a sign that it's on it's last legs?Can anyone answer these questions or have any reasonably priced gearlike working cameras, players, portable recorders and so on?.
Any info gratefully recieved:-)Louis K. Rayner:-)
Hello.Help!!!After many years with SVHS I have now in my posession a Sony BVP800P U-matic.However,it will load a cassette OK but when any of the tape transport buttons are pressed it will shut down into standby.Both drum and capstan rotate OK and the machine will eventually operate correctly if I continue to press the stop button after pressing pressing "play" or "ffwd" or whatever.When it does eventually work there is the sound of a solenoid operating, which does not when the fault occurs.The solenoid is located between load mech and loading rings on the right of the mech and pushes pinch roller against tape/capstan.Hints or advice would be gratefully received.Thanks.
I have a dump question here...how do you time code on fresh tape?
Timecode is written as a recording is made. I always liked to run a minute + a few seconds of bars from the camera onto a new tape then pick up my recording from the 60 second mark. OTher folk may put more bars on..
IF what you need is a blacked tape which you can insert into it's a case of feeding the VTR a stable black signal and hitting record.
Well you make some very valid points.
It's true; for linear editing you need good industrial grade SVHS machines. Setting up for hybrid work though is difficult.
Believe me when I tell you that many professionals are using domestic grade equipment. I actually teach Video and Multimedia in a College (Stow College, Glasgow) and all the equipment we provide our students with is domestic grade.
No, build quality isn't the best but it can be adequate. I'm not familiar with the machine you mentioned but you shouldn't get too bogged down in the build quality issue. It's grossly unfair to attempt to compare even the top end dometic kit with broadcast gear costing 3 or 4 times what domestic items do. At Stow we have several SVHS domestic machine all of which have been well used and abused by students and are holding up well. Likewise my own JVC 7500 has been giving good service for about two years now with no problems.Granted, It's not an editing machine; but then all editing is done on the PC. Likewise when I output to DV I simply do not need the same mechanical features as I might were I linear editing. A DV walkman is just fine! As indeed is feeding back to the camcorder (TRV900)
I've only just started using DV in my production work. I must have been one of the last people shooting low band Umatic 'in anger' so to speak. I didn't make than change lightly having resited such 'developments' as SVHS and Hi8 for shooting.
Certainly; IF you can get a BVU for under say about £300 go for it. I'd maybe even pay up to £400 for a good clean one with very low hours and some decent service history. Bear in mind that ANY broadcast VTR may well have lead a long and hard life. Servicing such a beast can be more a labour of love than anything else.Not much creative work getting done when you have your head stuck in the VTR all the time!
If I were in your position, and determined to go for analogue I would have thought Betacam was a better bet.
And in the final analysis I'm not convinced ANY analogue VTR will give you what you're looking for. Better to render in DV format and firewire out to mini DV or Digital 8.
Incidentally I would avoid the MPEG2 based machines. They're fine as VCR's but not (in my opinion) really an editing format.
Hope it all works out for you, and If I can help please feel free to get in touch.
First of all, thanks for replying Matt, and now some of my explaining. (Excuse my English - I live in Germany and have forgot a lot :o)
<...Domestic SVHS machines can be had for very low sums. I think I paid about £250..>Well I've seen a BVU-800 for about £167 (!) - so that was a very competitive offer.. Unfortunately, this beatiful machine is no longer available - I think someone was a bit faster than me .. :(
+ I don't want to touch any domestic VTRs anymore, since my experience with a Sony SLV-SX80 - and what's considered to be an edit-capable machine & a "high quality mechanism/transport" in dom. VTRs.. And brod. SVHS VTRs are very expensive (those I meant in my last posting).. Hi8-ones are a bit cheaper, and my second focus right now (in case I'll have to give up on getting a decent U-Matic)
<Umatic for 3d graphics? Well I've certainly done it in the past but hand on heart I'd have to suggest that Mini DV is as near visually 'lossless' as you'll get on a budget.>Ok, agreed the new digital formats are very nice, and there are several options, like MiniDV, Sonys Digital 8, and even DVHS - or similar MPEG2 derivants.
<What are you going to have to pay for a BVU type machine in your part of the world? could you get say a DV walkman for similar money?>
That depends on the offers I ocassionally get. They varied from 2 time as much as a DV-walkman to a fraction of a DV-walkman.You're right, it would be easier and more convienient to get a DV recorder, especially when it comes to technical problems (maintenance, warranty ), and of course the availability of the media (tapes), but what would I have to pay for such a recorder with features like a quick responding direct-driven transport, variable playback speed in both directions, picture search, etc..It likely find such a machine in the broadcast range ( with a 5-6 digit price-tag).
<...As for hybrid editing. A year or two back I was all for it but now I'm 100% non-linear simply becaus eit's REALLY do-able now, Umatic works well with NLE techniques...>
Well, your correct, there's no doubt, but consider me as being a merely 23-year-old student with a weird fixation on decent technology .. For instance as a tape deck, I consider a Revox/Studer B215, etc.. And for video I always wanted a broadcast machine. One of the reasons is maybe that I'm used to a certain quality standard in the audio studio me and some collegues had set up (as in other studios), which was available to a certain extend for the home market (back in the 70's & 80's), and got more and more removed during progress of time.. Thanks to engineers that were concentrating their minds on how to make something still acceptable for the market as cheap as possible.I don't want to get into the philosophy section here, but when you go to a shop, and buy the most expensive VTR and take a look in it, and compare it with a brod. type - you know what I'm talking about. I remember when I took a look inside my Sony - my hair has almost fallen out. I still can't believe that it's able to function properly for "so long" (1 year) with that build-quality.
Well firstly I've never known a 'broadcast' VHS machine; some pretty hot industrial ones but no Boradcast. SVHS. Domestic SVHS machines can be had for very low sums. I think I paid about £250 for mine.
From what you say I'm surprised that you found VHS acceptable at all.
Umatic for 3d graphics? Well I've certainly done it in the past but hand on heart I'd have to suggest that Mini DV is as near visually 'lossless' as you'll get on a budget.
What are you going to have to pay for a BVU type machine in your part of the world? could you get say a DV walkman for similar money?
Much as I LOVE the Umatic format recent developments ahve been petty positive. As for hybrid editing. A year or two back I was all for it but now I'm 100% non-linear simply becaus eit's REALLY do-able now, Umatic works well with NLE techniques...
In reply to :< maybe you could explain why you're so uptight about just ONE way of measuring picture quality?What's your line here...... >
Well, Matt - let me put it this way:
I was/am stuck with low-res equipment my whole life until now..I always wanted to have something, which would allow to capture from various sources with a minimum loose in detail.
I bought some pro / broadcast VTRs which were considered as reference in VHS standard for a time, to see what's possible in analog-video. All perform great, especially when it comes to color-separation, but that does not help much, when the complete image is "fogged-up" in comparison to the original. Someone may consider it smooth, when the picture got evenly filtered through expensive circuitry (build in order to hide the limitations of the VHS standard mostly i.m.o), but I consider it just a try to even out not acceptable degradations - at least at that grade (<240 lines).
To cut a long story short, what I want is exactly the same amazing features I found with my obtained VTRs, just with a bit higher resolution. SVHS could be a joice, however, the machines are still just too expensive. ED Beta was stumped to the ground a long time ago. U-Matic is great, and has a higher bandwidth than VHS. The machines are solid, provide all the editing features I want, and someone could easily recognize, if a TV-station has upgraded there equipment to the U-Matic standard - in my eyes mostly by the higher resolution.
I have a small dedicated digital workstation (nothing special), and I want to do some 3D-rendering, and some video-clips. Since the limitations of that type of solution, I want to set up a optimized combination of a linear & non-linear workplace - to circumvent the limitations of disk-space & similar.
Hope that answered the doubts of the sense of my request :-).
JanK maybe you could explain why you're so uptight about just ONE way of measuring picture quality?
What's your line here......
Please ! Could anyone tell me if it's true that the BVU-800 does produce better image-quality then BVU-850 & 950 ? ? I heard something about 370 lines !! vs 300 lines - and this in HB vs SP (!!). Is this true, and is the BVU a more up-do-date (sophisticated) machine ?? I need some advice urgently - so thank you for any help !
Leo, tho I'm not a wiz on the u-matic front I would presume that it is for the hours of head usage like industrial Betamaxs have.. Later. Ppese.
May be any one of you can answer this question: Does the hours meter means anything?, is that the hours of tape runs or hours the machine was powered?
Hi,i need some help about Sony Vo-9600P.I need the complete operation guide and electrical schematic.Thank youDavide
Ok, I'd like to apologize for the (almost) double post + I have to bring in this question.My Panasonic AG-6500, which is a VHS - NTSC VTR, comes with Dub IN & OUT ports as the u-matics. I want to interface my S-VHS-ports-equipped video-card straightly to the Dub IN port.Since the I/O-ports of VTRs are usually the same format no matter what VTR-system in use, I fear to ask if I'll be facing the same need for convertion of the C- component of the signal as the u-matic VTRs. (But on a second thought - shouldn't there be a different sub-carrier on a VHS ?).Anyone knowing sites at which I could find schematics for such a convertion - or enlighten me elsehow?Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a decent u-matic with a superb picture (>300 lines COLOR), with a completely direct driven mechanism.I got offered the following machines:BVU-110PVO-8800PVO-4800PS VO-5800 JVC CP-5550E.Now for my demands, I'd need a SP capable VTR.AFAIK the first two Sonys mentioned are HB capable, the last three VCRs are LB. Anyone that can prove me wrong ? I studied the postings carefully, and I stumbled across some guy selling his "converted" 110 which - he claims - is SP capable. Is this possible, or are/where there special versions of this VTR available with SP quality ? I thougt the "P" after 110 stands for "PAL" but who knows ;). Anyone with experiences with any of those machines (but especially with the JVC) that could tell me something about these gems ? I have broadcast VHS VTR so far, and I'd like to obtain something at least as amazing as the Panasonig AG-6500 or the JVC PR-6800BR I have sitting in front of me. The color separation quality of the JVC is amazing (in VHS terms that is :), as well as this stunning drive (mechanism) response. The Panasonic is my new god right now - I love this thing ! (But not as much as I'd love a BVU-870. .)
Hi !Unfortunately I'm kinda new to the u-matic world. I'm looking for a cheap u-matic machine with decent picture (above 300 lines) and a solid & flexible direct driven mechanism. (I'd love to get an editing machine, but that would lead to BVU-800 (+) - which is above my budget right now).I got offered the following VCR's (VTR's)JVC CP-5550E,Sony BVU-110P,VO-8800P,VO-4800PS.Now I am very interested in buying a SP capable u-matic.As far as I know the JVC isn't even HB capable, the two following Sonys are HB and the last one is a LB again. But now, after I've studied these postings carefully I stumbled across someone who's selling a SP capable 110 -he has mentioned some kind of a conversion. Was that made by a special kit - or are there special versions of 110's that do support SP. I thought the "P" after 110 stands for "PAL" but who knows.. ;) Any help appreciated.Anyone that can prove me wrong, and recommend me one of these gems.
I have a VO-5600. I was rewinding a tape when the machine stopped. It would not perform any functions and the tape would not eject. I manually removed the tape. Now it does nothing except spin it's wheels when I first turn on the power. Please, I would be grateful for any help.Jeff
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Matt, it ain't a Series 2. That one looks to new, but the "original" looks near identical except for I don't have as many control knobs on the right side. As for getting power to it I will take your ideas as they make good sense. I agree that it was probably manufactured by someone else. Like Betamax in the fact that Sanyo made Sears and Radio Shack vcrs. Sony made Pioneer and Marantz, etc., etc. Anyway, I will let you know what happens in the near future with this unit. Later. Pepse.
I guess by computer cord you mean an IEC mains lead? These seem to be standard on just about everything these days. Rather than hard wire the socket (possibly a good temporary method just to see if the beast lives) might it not be an idea to consider fitting an iec or 'computer' type input socket. Particulalry if you're using the thing in the house this could be a safer alternative.
I'm almost certain this machine will be something else re-badged. Commonly Sony ad JVC made Umatics and might be tempted to guess your is a '2 series' player. Take a look at the palsite gallery and see if it physically resembles anything.
I think Umatic came into being in 1968 and I was using the format 'in anger' untill early this year; Great machines all of them!
Matt, as Roland states all NTSC machines have our standard 110 Volt socket. And I did make it to a Radio Shack and all they have are computer cords and the type of cord that has 3 bare wires on the on end. Meaning if I don't find a proper cord soon I'll get one of them and take the cover off and hard wire it to the back of the socket area. As for Wollensak, it was (is? still) a division of 3M Company. They used to sell Beta and vhs video tapes. Since I posted my cry for help on Fri., 08/09, I have discovered that Sony is about the only Company that anyone would be familiar with. The one thing I seen on the one U Matic page mentions that the format started in the late '60's early '70's and my guess is that this Wollensak I got is probably a very early model. So, as of this time it looks like I'm sorta on my own; at least until I can find a way to power this puppy up and see what happens. And if things go good and my wife lets me play with it more (to be able to bring it in the house and leave it there). And even tho this is a player only it will still be interesting if it runs. Oh, BTW, Wollensak also made Reel to Reel audio tape players as well as audio cassette players and some other stuff. They were mainly used in schools and other institutions as well as the Armed Forces. One of my brothers stopped by this eve and said that U-Matics players are what the Army used in the '70's. Mostly training tapes. Later. Pepse.
John, 9.5 cine delivers better quality than VHS. Betacam SP is reckoned to be the industry standard for quality, but still expensive.Some of the mini DV formats are very good. U-matic highband SP is probably the best economic solution, but remember that they do not have built in tuners if you are recording television programmes. They also take up a lot of space. Hi8 and SVHS formats are better than VHS if you are working in a domestic environment. It is a confusing world out there........
Would it be useful to get a betacam or u-matic recorder in stead of a vhs recorder? Which one delivers better quality?
Most Umatics I've seen have a standard IEC mains input lead; standard in Europe that is. Are these commonly used in NTSC land? Wollensack? Never heard of them but possibly a re-badged Sony. This thing is a top loader right?
All the NTSC machines that I have had dealings with have had the standard 110v sockets, i.e. two flat pins and one round, and some have also had the female 110v sockets located next to that for a loop through to a monitor.
Hello U-Matic fans. I have the following machines available for sale if anybody is interested:Sony VO-9600P (600 Head hrs and as new condition) £850Sony VO-7630P £350Sony VP-7040p £300Sony VP-5040p £150Sony VP-5040P £150
Also have available a limited stock of BVU-800P series spares (boards, motors etc) and some '5' series spares, if anyone is interested.
Well, I don't know how to start this because after reading abit about U-Matics on the main Web page I actually feel a bit like an ass for needing any info/help. But since I'm here I'll go for broke. I live in the US and was at an auction today and for the grand total of $2.00 I got a Sony SL-8600 VCR, and a Wollensak VP-205 U-Matic VTP with about 12 tapes. If I sound abit vsague it is because I bought this stuff against my wife's better wishes, so at the moment all this stuff is in my shed. But, I am wondering if the power cord (didn't get one with it) is a special kind or is it something I might find at Radio Shack?? There is a recessed hole in the back for the external 110 volt plug. It is the sort of typical 3 prong connector. Sort of, meaning that the ground prong looks to be a bit bigger round than your standard 3 prong plug. I hope to get a cord for this so I can see if it still works. Another question? There is a tape in the unit and a lever on the machine to eject the tape but it doesn't ejct. Does it need power or.........?? Let me know if I was an ass for this aquisition or what. Later. Pepse. The guy who knows about the 1/2 inch format but is clueless about 3/4 inch.
anyone know how to output the phantom audio track, commonly used for sync on a Sony Umatic VO-5800
Anyone know where I can purchase a Sony Umatic 7040 and/or a Sony Beta UVW - 1200 RGB?
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I have been asked to look at a SONY model* VP-7000 U-MATIC VTR. I put in a tape, could REW, FF, PLAY, EJECT - everything worked. I put in a 30 min tape, and let it play. It got to the end, and now nothing works!!! It is displaying STANDBY. I recycled power, but it still shows in STANDBY, and will not EJECT or REW the tape.Of course I don't have a manual, or any other info. Is it in the wrong MODE??? Is it broken and not worth the trouble???Is there a good repair place for these machines??? The user still has many Training tapes he would like to refer to from time to time.As you can tell, I am unfamiliar with the U-MATIC WORLD.Any advice or info would be most appreciated from anyone out there!
Thanks in Advance,
Have a few Umatics that need repair or rebuild. Anyone have a phone #, address, e-mail or webpage to check with Sony? Ideas on how much to put new rubber, heads, etc. on 5850's? Know a better place to get repairs done in U.S.?Thanks,Jay
Thanks Keith, for responding. The Machine is a model VO-2610 and I can't see anything in the tape path. The tape ejects and appears undamamged.
The Autostop coming on normally indicates a fault. What model of U-Matic is it ? Is there a tape stuck inside it ?
We have been recording church services on a Sony 3/4 U-Matic and have experienced few problems. The recorder now has an Auto-Stop light and the controls are unresponsive. We can't seem to clear the Auto-Stop. We would appreciate any help!
U-matic recorders and players for saleI have 8 utmatic players and recorders (mostly low band)for sale. Some of them are not in working condition, but most of them are. They have all been in use on a broadcasting company. Prices are very low, starting from 100 FIM for those who not are i working condition, and endning up on 800 FIM for a SP player. They are located in Finland close to Helsinki. If you are interested, please contact me on my email adress.Tom