_@_v - i do believe some snailslick licking is in order, buttnuzzler....

http://www.zingtang.demon.co.uk/snails/Sky.jpg

I'd just test Half past Dead into HF95D resulting pure picture in BI, clear pixelate in BII, and the same to VHS quality in BIII.Recorded and played on other machine may slightly differ also unknown to rookie. Certain low end Digital Beta produced shifting motion pic.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2945959474&category=43438

for SL-200X family. uses 2 NP1s to give more power...

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

oh, to be able to get ahold of the ABBA master tapes and a mixing board......... I love all the layering of harmonies!! When a group GE's out like they did who gets to keep the tapes and stuff like that? I also wonder if any of their videos are on Beta.. Prolly most on u-mie, right?

how about this one, Jesse...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3342748418&category=41600

I might be interested in ABBA records.

e.... I meant like the master videos of their concerts and stuff, lol......

I'll bet you do..... Come and try mine on for size. Anyhoo, I'm going to be salted on this auction because some other slug is trying to get it away from me http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45103&item=3342595187 .. It's a nice poster, too.

lol... I wonder if they'll can me for making a remark in response to our resident troll.

http://www.geocities.com/drhek2001/dxgreat1.jpg

Anyone else having problems with ebay??? I just lost all connection to it.. can't get into anything at all. :(

Yes, it seems all useful pages are more or less, well, useless...

Low hours GCS-50 going soon. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3041156728

Hey Jesse, the ABBA master video tapes are probably on 1 or 2 inch tape. The dubmaster or promos may be in 3/4".

What would be really cool would be to find material actually released to the consumer on 3/4" tape. That system was marketed to the consumer, if you recall. Would be neat to find such items, but I think they were rare.

_@_v - betamax post-mortem from 1988...

http://www.betainfoguide.com/RiseandFall.htm

_@_v - sony pretty much kept shooting themselves in the foot in regards to beta. like refusing to offer a remote pause even though r.c.a. had them on their vhs machines because "consumers would just wear out the videoheads".

_@_v - i personally love how sony clamped onto the notion of only 14 lousy stinkin' presets on their tuners (like on my 1988 sl-hf 360) well into the1990's (with the sls-600) even though they had a working 125 channel tuner years earlier (like the sl-2710). It really would've killed them to put a decent all-electronic tuner in all their v.c.r.s.

_@_v - it's like they failed to learn the lesson of communism and tried to manipulate sales through "managed" shortages and feature leave-offs. well it looks like the consumers went and left in droves...

Sony is FAMOUS for feature leave-offs. my VO-2600 Umatic has the contacts for a skew pot but no actual pot is in place! That was on the higher level machines...

A consistant operations layout would've been nice as well. The SL-F1 and SL-C9 are pretty much the same VCR but the swing-search feature works diametically opposite of each other. In the F-1 you have to go into pause to frame or motion search and in the C-9 you have to hit a different button. And a BACK button in the timer comes in handy for if you goof and need to go back.

And Sony execs still wonder why nobody cares one way or another about Sony Products...

cuz they're expen$ive......

An used Sony Betamovie camera, BMC-500p for sale, camcorder bodies only, without batteries or charger. Contact me at email adress :[email protected] . Thanks

:( Saw a poor old Zenith SL-2001 or whatver model it was. It's the 2000amie under a zenith brand. I didn't buy it because of the posts I rememberd earlier this month about the pinouts on the Multi Bus being different than those on the real 2000amie. Poor abandoned thing... It was all beat up.

Ack! go back and get it! We determined that the Zenith models that are OEM'd by sony are compatible but not the other ones!!!

_@_v - eeee! sleech that 2001-amie and use the cover parts of your dead 2000-amie!

_@_v - and the optimistic beta seller of the week award goes to this guy...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042557155

_@_v - "betamax vcr. picture jumps a little... $300 bux"

_@_v - ah but what magical model will you get for your $300 samoleans? well i asked and it's a measly sl-5000.

_@_v - even [email protected] has better bargains than that...

I think "The Cleavers" were selling a GCS-50 with an opening bid equivilent to VCRGary's Buy It Now price... rather silly considering that while The Cleavers' unit was checked out by some random tech they hired, VCRGary checked it out himself, and could render some aid if you needed it. (as he did with me on stuff I've purchased from him, and also stuff I haven't!)

You gotta love the paucity of item description in that auction. Bet he figures that people will just bid on it thinking it must be a really GOOD Beta.

yes, truly. I can't understand it, but it seems that people lose their ability to use any form of decent english when they sell anything on the internet. I am amused by car ads where the seller claims the car "needs restored". The "Works good" is another one that shows up... honestly.

On old Beta machines (or any electronic device) decorated with a wood-like laminate, there is always a prominent label alerting the user that the wood grain is simulated. Was it illegal to pass off wood-grain stickers as real wood?

GEe... Well, I didn't really pay attention to the model number of the zenith-amie, (didn't see any markings) I just clamped onto it because it looked like a 2000amie right before some other slug snapped at it. That same slug probably sleeched off with it when I put it back and I'll more than likely see it for $250 at one of the flea markets because it's a "verrie verrie gut betamacks vee see are, seeee senorrr es bueno, es un ZENITH! ZENITH es un gooood brand... pero we dont have los caaaables..." LOL! Maybe if it had been a porta-U I woulda bought it, and if it didn't work sell it on ebay "as is due to age." lol!!

And I'm not sure about the woodgrain thing.... Maybe they anticipated someone suing them because they didn't say it WASN'T real wood. Oh well. I'd do the same thing to my product just to keep some slug from suing me for misrepresentation or something.

degga! Sorry so many posts but dont you just hate it when like at a flea market or something you think someone's price is too high and you tell them; and then they ask "whats it worth to you then" or "what you willing to pay"? I'm almost afraid to tell the people what I'd really pay for their stuff, lol, because frankly they always want 5 or 6 times what I'd be willing to pay.

That's Ok. You and only like 2 or 3 more people post on this board anymore these days. I miss the old days of the chat page, before George Bush killed the economy. People would chat and post about things, and sell things worth the damn and not gripe about prices that these rare items deserve. I do agree, a flea market is just a junk sale and should be priced accordingly.. but oh well. I give up. Digital is here , and we might as well face it. Digital compression is awesome. Nothing beats pixelation. Great stuff. Leonard.

The Dot.com meltdown that put the economy on the skids was already underway well before George W. had even taken the oath of office. In addition to having to deal with 9/11, there was also a major meltdown of the Asian economy that was beginning to take it's effects in the US.

Besides that, the president of the US doesn't 'control' the economy. The Federal Reserve does by raising or lowering interest rates.

Oddly enough, whoever posted under my ID above, used techniques that bypass the little controls that filter out "objectionable" words, when, as far as I know, this board doesn't filter them out.

I love how Spam mail does that...

with subject tags like "get V*I*A*G*A*R*A to g*r*o*w" or whatever. Or they slap a bunch of random letters at the end of the tag which totally ruins whatever element of deception they were trying to pull...

"remember me from that wild chat last nite ;) ........Xkjdgfbdaiojoifbhjk"

Oh yeah I'm gonna fall for that...

yeah, those will fool... oh... nobody! My favorites are the ones that ask for verification of informatino they never had anyway... sorta like the airlines asking for your liscence plate number to confirm your flight or something...

Yes, Brenda, I have read your insults and protestations. Again, all things you and your fellow travelers here never bother to consider when blasting away at the morality other sellers, but which you freely use to support your own complete detachment with reality.

How's the old 7300 auction going, anyway? Maybe you can post the link again so we can all share in your marketing acumen.

Brenda's start bid of $100 US is not too far out of line considering what this current VCR-7300 is going for...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042231685

Currently at $85 US. And this guy is hawking it as a 'Pro' unit with a supposed original price of over $81000 US.

Boy is he ever out of line... I think some Quad machines cost less than that.

Hey McFly !!! Don't you think the guy actually meant $811.00 ???

$811,00. If it says $81.000 then he meant $81.000 ;)

DYa know VIDEO 8 canbe used to store/backup Data.....

So can a Betamax VCR. There's one of those PC cards that can output digidata to a video in out port.

Now you can relive the ancient days of loading BASIC computer programs with an audio tape recorder...

Ya know what? I decided to hell with it, and pulled that unit from auction. I may even bid on the other one up for auction. The 900 went for $202.. wheeee.. pretty sure I paid more than that for it. Oh well, life is like that sometimes.

And Fiorello.. there's a hella difference between buying something for $175 and trying to sell it for $250 and buying it for $50 and trying to sell it for $600.. I don't have a gripe at all about someone trying to make a profit from what they buy and spend their time repairing and cleaning up.. but I have yet to make any profit on anything I have ever sold on ebay, and generally lose money. IIRC, my 1000 sold for $550. I paid over $1700 for it new, and had $450 worth of repairs done on it recently. Again, life is like that sometimes. When you sell (or buy) something on ebay, it's a gamble, pure and simple.

Ta.

You clowns are into dealing with this stuff. Check out two eBay traders: betavcrguy and vintage-motorbikes.

Let's see what kind of detectives you are. Start here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042664957

Hi,

Here, ebay.com: Zenith VHS adaptor for Beta?Keyword search 3043145008 (ebay.com)

It's liar! Or cable from copy, but photo isn't nobody.

Bye

Hi,

I'm interested schematic and service manuals for videorecorders. http://casandro.dyndns.org/service_manuals/

But site page is cancelled: This site has been closed down in protest against software patents. If those laws will pass I can no longer maintain my pages because they might violate patents.

You can get more information at http://swpat.ffii.org

Why????????

Bye

I hereby declare a patent on the idea of using the diaphramic method of inhaling atmospheric gasses into a closed biological system to obtain oxygen.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3043145008 that Beta adapter thingie...

Which is also my idea so no stealing it...

Well LaGuardia, it looks like you found another axis of weasels on eBay. Willijames, Vintage Moterbikes AND the so-called BetaVCRGuy seem to bid fairly close to each other.

For the record this is the sorta thing we're against. BetaVCRGuy is not 'one of us' in spirit at least.

By the way that 'Pro' VCR 7300 is up to $112.50 but there seem to be an awful lot of 0 feedback bidders attached to it. A good sign of possible shilling going on. More weaselly stuff we don't like and hope you choke on for having seen us post about it LaGuardia...

_@_v - almost forgot...

_@_v~ - spblblblblblblt!

_@_¼¼ - I thought your posts were missing something...

well the beta adaptor thingy was taken off... and not a moment too soon because i was going to blast away at him with all the reasons why there never could have been a beta to vhs adaptor, huehehehehee

Yep. Blast away. Never want to blow a chance to both make an ass of both the hobby and yourself at the same time. It'd be like an unfired shot. Why educate when you can insult and alienate?

You know, it's not too late to go back and browbeat him anyway. C'mon. Do it for us.

Someone needed to POLITELY let the guy know of his error. Someone apparently let him know, hopefully it was politely. The adaptor was of course for VHS-C tapes, and not ßeta..

_@_v - funny no matter how low that troll tries to sink in trying to pretend he's one of us post, it only make him look more and more like the jerk he is.

_@_v - you're not fooling anybody! in fact it would only lets us insult other people easier. cuz if we really went and ripped on each other they'd only think it was a troll post.

_@_v - i bet it's laguardia posting the troll stuff anyway..

"Choke on it," is such a pleasant sentiment there, Oyl.

By the way, by your logic re (0) fb bidders, your pal Andy Sanchez must be a crook too.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=3043038193

Actually, he is anyway. Anyone with any real knowledge about beta knows that this unit, as good as it is, is almost worthless without the original remote. That little surprise awaits the new owner, who already is going to pay too much for this unit.

No, Oyl, it's not me. I have never addressed you specifically before your delightful "choke on it" sentiment earlier today, and that post is just above this one, under the name I always use here.

But I understand how you would like to think that it's just one wicked bad person taking shots at you. Fact is that you piss off a lot of people; that's why you spend so much time in this otherwise nonconfrontational setting - you rarely have to account for your behavior. I suspect that my calling you to task has inspired someone else here to sabotage your moniker to vent some feelings they don't want to vent under the name they regularly use. Hell - I could be one of them myself.

You never know...

$102 isn't all that bad for a Toshiba HiFi and since any Toshiba VCR remote will work (they didn't change their code from switching to VHS) I don't see that not having the reomte is gonna be any sort of problem.

I think I'll file a patent with the EEC on the idea of troll posting.(see Sergio's posts above) I'd be a millionaress just from this site alone.

That's just it - other Toshiba remotes don't work with this unit - even Toshiba Beta remotes. Nor do universals have a code for it. Further, even if either of those could work, they likely wouldn't be able to control the 2 times play speed, slow tracking, vari-speed cue/review and slo-motion, features accessible *only* from the remote, nor audio dub. An owner of this one without a remote is screwed, far worse than with a remoteless digital Sony deck, where you could at least access the digital features on the unit itself, and use other remotes for many of the other functions. The owner's first clue, if he doesn't see it in the auction photo, is the 2x play indicator light on the panel, which without the remote he will find he cannot invoke.

Whole big load of Selectavision discs that someone has.... all starting at $1.99..

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=fabswoman&sort=3&page=1&rows=50&since=-1&showpics=1&stab=0

To :Francess

What I meant is that I got a Tape Drive wich incidentally accept my Video 8 tape/casette. Though the manufacturer dont recomend using it as the Media ,after several Tweak the BACKup process runs smoothly.That was different from using Beta tape as the Streaming Tape.//cc

I did use Tape recorder as my Z80 single board Nemonic data (assembly languange file) years ago, but I got no chance of trying it with Beta.

http://www1.tcnet.ne.jp/tatsuoda/3rd/oda_3rd1.htm

be Betaluv.......

Go back under your runway LaGuardia. Trolls only make themselves look bad.

Still not fooling anyone. And you've been reported to the site owners.

Yes, of course, Franny. Everyone is stupid, and you are smart. Saw that little "oyl" and it was, "Eureka - a clue!"

Sheer genius. You are so sharp. So smart that even with your insufferable adolescent demeanor, there could only be one person here who thinks you are an insufferable twerp.

Face it - even by lurking here as you do and limiting your social circle to two or three people, you still aren't popular.

And I wouldn't use your name to present the gas from my ass, much less the words from my pen.

What are you trying to prove "Fiorello" , or whatever the hell you call yourself. Get the hell out of here damnit.

Prove? Heh. You oughta read the history. I realize that the hypocrisy of this board regarding selling ethics is nearly a given so I break no new ground when exposing it, and the issue has been exhausted anyway so I won't revisit it, but I believe it was others who jumped in with the invective and insults directed toward me. I was merely reacting to that with an eye on maybe holding up a mirror to you and your ilk - that absurd culture of entitlement to act like a bunch of cliquish children. This is not your board, and no one is getting the hell out of anywhere. And if you read what I wrote carefully, you will have learned about an eBay scammer none of the rest of you picked up on, and gotten a 101 course on one of the best if little known beta units you can own. But you don't want to pay any attention to that. You just want to cry and whine because I make you squirm in your chair. And that's just too goddamned bad.

Leonard, you need to adjust your tracking control, or set your autotracking to "on." The picture is obviously not very clear to you.

Beyond that, I wouldn't know where to begin to respond to your rejoinder, which amounts to a verbal equivalent of someone tumbling down a flight of stairs.

Hi,

Here: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://homepage1.nifty.com/Sony/Data/Parts_Making.html

All models vcrs Betamax (from 1975 to now) can to repair each type of gears and mechanical (PAL and NTSC)!

You can to read this site version language english!

Bye

Sergio,

Thanks for the informative and interesting link. It's what this chatpage is about.

Hi,

After one year, announced Sony, two models Betamax will soon cease.

One minute of the silence.

Here, this site version language english:http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http://homepage1.nifty.com/Sony/BetaKnowHow/FinalBeta.html

Also one vcr rare and prototype ED-Beta EDV-10000!

Yesterday, today and tomorrow, Beta is deathless forever. I already found silicon rubber and craft resin for project and to repair.

Bye

Hi,

I find one nice picture vcr Marantz Beta USA VR -200 !

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3043235039&category=39830

Bye

Sergio...

It seems the coding of this page is such that those last two links get broken in half so that you can only get the Japanese version and not the translation.

Ok, Fiorello Marshmello. You win. You are the most intelligent person on the earth. You obviously know something that the rest of us does not. Now, let me finish my lobotomy and then I'll throw some more Betamax VCR's into the firepit I got going in the backyard here behind my trailer. Gonna be a great day today. Leonard.

Betamax for only 15 Euro

http://www.marktplaats.nl/foto.php3?g=video&u=betamaxrecorders&ID=760&ret=%2Fmarkt%2Fvideo%2Fbetamaxrecorders.htm

uheuehueheueh

http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/beta.html

I regret not to learn Japanese Lang........heuheuheue.

Francess ,I got cute pic N' Betamax inside it....

http://www1.tcnet.ne.jp/tatsuoda/3rd/oda_3rd.htm

Re: Sony feature leave-offs. They are still doing it today. My CCD-TRV87 Hi8 camcorder comes with a remote control that can operate one forward slow motion mode. They neglect to mention in the manual that the camcorder is capable of variable-speed slow motion playback in forward and reverse if you have a remote that has the buttons for them-say the one that comes with the DCR-TRV230 Digital 8 camera, or the SLV-R5UC's jog/shuttle remote.

http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/beta.html

If you 'walk' the images...

http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/image4.gif

http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/image8.gif

http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/image10.gif

http://www.age.ne.jp/x/tknr/image15.gif

to images 16 17 18 19 then to images 23 24 26 30 31 & 32 all .GIFs

You get some bunnies with your betas o@_V <-bunnysnail

oops! I didn't mean to say that.... and what's so bad about a clique? I think it's quite fun! LOL.... I really wish I could fix my 2000amie's bad batty terminal and cammy fuse so I can take it on the road... :(

Anyone see those pix of Mars at it's closest approach to Earth taken by the Hubble Telescope?

http://hubblesite.org/db/2003/22/images/a/formats/full_jpg.jpg

Pretty awesome. This one's even better...

http://www.dragg.net/users/pennywitt/marvin/marsprobe.jpg

Another piccy...

http://home.nycap.rr.com/frannylandde/kunstwerken/2003-22-a-full-mars.jpg

GEe..... I thought the hubble was busted

_@_v - NASA did a couple of service calls in the mid 90s and fixed it so that it was even better than originally designed...

_@_v - somebody visited ray glasser's site before posting his auction...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3043686292

"In perfect mint condition, this originally sold for $850, two years ago. This quality Beta unit has an image which is vast superior to the VHS units. Original box with everything in it. The last American Betamax model made. Stripped-down version of the SL-HF2100, with none of the frills; 2 heads, a standard remote control, no B-Is record, normal buttons, etc. JAPANESE EQUIVALENT: SL-HF200D. "

_@_v - all things considered, i wonder if the 'beta is better' than vhs' thing is overplayed - something that the know-nothings parrot when they have a beta to unload and they can't think of anything else to say...

_@_v - naahhhhhh!

_@_v - i'll be damned! the snail himself selling a superbetahifi for under $ 200. ..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3043614278

_@_v - oh well it's 'only' an sl-hf 350. wonder what's wrong with it....

This board probably should be monitored more closely, Franny, but you clearly aren't the one to do it. You don't seem to be very popular, and you couldn't handle the role responsibly anyway. It would be the fox guarding the henhouse. I think that a regular mod would keep things on-topic, so the childish snail crap of you and others here would be deleted at the outset. Now, because for you and Olive (and a coupla others), your obsessive, lingering "snail" culture is the bulk of your material, you consequently wouldn't have much to "contribute" anymore. And ironically, that would ultimately result in the elimination of any need to monitor the board at all. In any event, you might want to be careful what you wish for.

You all never seemed to grasp that it was that little schoolyard "snail" frenzy that drew in the initial wave of "trolls" that got this board shut down a year or so back, chased away a lot of longtime, quality contributors, and still draws the "trolls" to this day. If you behaved like adults and communicated like adults, it seems to me that the problem of the crude posts under your spoofed name would become irrelevant if they didn't disappear altogether.

For anyone who is interested, here is a link to a Japanese website regarding an enterprising hobbyist who casts his own parts, gears and stuff.

http://homepage1.nifty.com/Sony/Data/Parts_Making.html

Re: behaviour modification. Why is it necessary to get so delaminated about the rantings of others (as long as they aren't ranting under another person's username)? I do not demand total agreement with my God-given insights. Please don't resort to sledgehammer posting when I disagree with yours. Just let it go.

For the record I dislike Beta-snails because after the same heavy VCR ends up getting dragged back and forth across a continent a few times, it has to sell for an obscene price just to cover the westbound UPS guy and the eastbound Fed-Ex team, then airmail and customs duties to get it to Toronto (hey didn't that $275 SL-HFR30 start out in Montreal for $50??) Final score: 3 couriers split $150, and 2 snails think they can retire on their share of the $75 "profit". The math works a lot better when you snail a rare 50 gram comic book instead.

Now don't post any disagreements or I'll have to turn into a sociopath.

Hi,

Videoplayer SuperBeta is very nice photos with angle photo.SL-P44Rhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3043728871&category=39830 Error photo or text between Beta and VHS? Ignored?Toshiba (photo VHS ultra-slim white)http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3043657759&category=39830

Magnasonic (clone from Sanyo Betacord, but VHS isn't)http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3043642552&category=39830

Bye

GEe.... Franny's funny... I don't see why you trolls don't like her! I'd rather have her than you meanies...

_@_v - i wonder what the electrical tape is covering up on the cabinet of that slp-44r?

Hmmm....

http://thesurrealist.co.uk/monster.cgi?att=Betamax&def=VHS&a=S

Mmm Hmmm.. http://thesurrealist.co.uk/monster.cgi?att=Fiorello+the+Troll&def=Franny+Wentzel&a=S

http://thesurrealist.co.uk/monster.cgi?att=Fiorello+the+Troll&def=Olive+E+Thomas&a=S

_@_v - yeee!

http://thesurrealist.co.uk/monster.cgi?att=Fiorello+the+Troll&def=She-snailie&a=S

_@_v - spoke too soon...

http://thesurrealist.co.uk/monster.cgi?att=Sony+Betamovie&def=Panasonic+Palmcorder&a=I

_@_v -by the way sergio, 'magnasonic' was one of sanyo's trade names for it's betacord v.c.r.s it sold in canada. sanyo also sold betas under the fisher name in the european market. sanyo also oem'd betas for sears roebuck, marantz (for one beta), palladium, 'rent-a-beta' and radio shack.

_@_v - there were several limited run subbrands of beta oem's including bush, general, lloyds, navco (makers of a beta-format time-lapse security video vcr recorder), universum (they oem'd from sanyo sony & toshiba!) and wega (who even had a tape changer in their accessories options!).