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ED Beta
Tuesday 29th April 2008
1:50 am U.K.

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OLIVE?? Using that racist crap under my name will NOT work..

Please keep tryting.

ED

ED Beta
Tuesday 29th April 2008
1:48 am U.K.

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It's a ahame that a HITLER has taken over this chat page, and only allows what this THING thinks is proper..

Ed

ED Beta
Tuesday 29th April 2008
12:00 am U.K.

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º¿º because I post on here I need medical help, OLive?

º¿º
Monday 28th April 2008
11:40 pm U.K.

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Ed Beta, you should have a medical check-up.

Roderick
Monday 28th April 2008
11:39 pm U.K.

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Is anybody actually caring about this site?Or do we just have to accept that some knobhead decided that there shouldn't be any exchange of information. Sad.

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Monday 28th April 2008
11:09 pm U.K.

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ED Beta
Monday 28th April 2008
11:07 pm U.K.

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huh?

ED Beta
Monday 28th April 2008
9:29 pm U.K.

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RE: Sanyo clips.

Try a bit of superglue on spring ends.

Seems to do the trick!

ED Beta
Monday 28th April 2008
9:03 pm U.K.

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RE: Sanyo springs.

I use a bit of superglue on both ends of spring retainer.

Does the trick!

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Monday 28th April 2008
8:16 pm U.K.

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Boby28th April 200812:55 pm U.K. Yes, HF950 have raster line over the edge on Tape to Digital transfers. That's correct mostly but not always. ( that could be the LINES resolution problem, somewhere )The differences on using MPEG and AVI;AVI layer: is a format for editing purposes (much more greater picture quality than MPEG) Usually used for Editing/compressing/Transfering Movie. disadvantages= needs a lot of HardMedia bandwith and spaces.MPEG layer; very efficient format for capturing movie yet need only few bandwith. disadvantages= not good for 'FILE' conversion (bad for platform transformation)About earth leakage issue;EARTH LEAKAGE transformer is the only device that can suppress noise and spike problem over the AC lines. This transformer separates AC power from any lines problem such as static, Hummming noise, spike etc. Usually used in high-end audio (Tubes amplification). This is the best POWER insulation for sensitif devices/instrumentation. Very exclusive device for Betamax machines.Greets,Boby

Boby28th April 20081:07 pm U.K. PS: I just wonder if macro vision protection has anything to do with that 'edges'....

º¿º28th April 20082:38 pm U.K. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer

º¿º28th April 20082:56 pm U.K. http://www.mhennessy1.f9.co.uk/isolating/index.htm

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Monday 28th April 2008
8:12 pm U.K.

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Boby28th April 200812:55 pm U.K. Yes, HF950 have raster line over the edge on Tape to Digital transfers. That's correct mostly but not always. ( that could be the LINES resolution problem, somewhere ) The differences on using MPEG and AVI; AVI layer: is a format for editing purposes (much more greater picture quality than MPEG) Usually used for Editing/compressing/Transfering Movie. disadvantages= needs a lot of HardMedia bandwith and spaces. MPEG layer; very efficient format for capturing movie yet need only few bandwith. disadvantages= not good for 'FILE' conversion (bad for platform transformation) About earth leakage issue; EARTH LEAKAGE transformer is the only device that can suppress noise and spike problem over the AC lines. This transformer separates AC power from any lines problem such as static, Hummming noise, spike etc. Usually used in high-end audio (Tubes amplification). This is the best POWER insulation for sensitif devices/instrumentation. Very exclusive device for Betamax machines. Greets,Boby Boby28th April 20081:07 pm U.K. PS: I just wonder if macro vision protection has anything to do with that 'edges'.... º¿º28th April 20082:38 pm U.K. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer º¿º28th April 20082:56 pm U.K. http://www.mhennessy1.f9.co.uk/isolating/index.htm

ED Beta
Monday 28th April 2008
6:26 pm U.K.

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Thanks BOBY,

Polarity of the LED's is important, like you said.

Hope the others attempting the "fix" saw you post.

º¿º
Monday 28th April 2008
1:56 pm U.K.

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http://www.mhennessy1.f9.co.uk/isolating/index.htm

º¿º
Monday 28th April 2008
1:38 pm U.K.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer

Boby
Monday 28th April 2008
12:07 pm U.K.

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PS: I just wonder if macro vision protection has anything to do with that 'edges'....

Boby
Monday 28th April 2008
11:55 am U.K.

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Yes, HF950 have raster line over the edge on Tape to Digital transfers. That's correct mostly but not always. ( that could be the LINES resolution problem, somewhere )

The differences on using MPEG and AVI;

AVI layer: is a format for editing purposes (much more greater picture quality than MPEG)Usually used for Editing/compressing/Transfering Movie.disadvantages= needs a lot of HardMedia bandwith and spaces.

MPEG layer; very efficient format for capturing movie yet need only few bandwith.disadvantages= not good for 'FILE' conversion (bad for platform transformation)

About earth leakage issue;

EARTH LEAKAGE transformer is the only device that can suppress noise and spike problem over the AC lines. This transformer separates AC power from any lines problem such as static, Hummming noise, spike etc. Usually used in high-end audio (Tubes amplification).This is the best POWER insulation for sensitif devices/instrumentation. Very exclusive device for Betamax machines.

Greets,Boby

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Monday 28th April 2008
11:24 am U.K.

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º¿º 24th April 2008 11:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bill 26th April 2008 8:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill

Bill 26th April 2008 9:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby 26th April 2008 11:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

K .Lambert 27th April 20084:56 pm U.K. Hi Betaphiles: A word of advice to anyone who's recently purchased or fitted a new idler set for a Sanyo Betamax.It has happened on the Classic make and another make of new idler sets too.As i've replaced quite a few of these ,this has come to light on a few occassions. A few times the washer, that holds the spring and spring cap, has worked loose(in the first few hours of useage) causing more noise when playing or FF and REW( depending on which wheel is involved).This action causes the washer,spring and spring cap to fly into the machine. One way to ensure this does'nt happen , is to remove the OLD securing washer, for the old idler, and use this on the new.I've never had one come loose that way.A fiddly job to the newbie but well worth the hassel. Strange but true.................Kevin

º¿º 27th April 20086:17 pm U.K. Betamax to DVD transfers ?? >> Try higher bitrate/oversampling rate, it'll improve pic quality.

colin b judd28th April 20086:53 am U.K. I agree re the slhf 100 being a great machine,mine is still playing great

Bill28th April 20087:05 am U.K. Thanks, Boby,So it could be that my capture device "likes" the SLHF100 more than it does the SLHF950 ! But, tapes actually recorded on the SLHF950 are better when played on that machine for capture than when they're played on the SLHF100. Of course that might have something to do with the fact that the SLHF950 tapes are no more than four or five years old as opposed to anything up to twenty years old for the SLHF100 's tapes. There are just too many variables!It's not a big problem, any combination produces perfectly useable results, it is just that I expected the SLHF950 to have the edge over the SLHF100, not the other way round. My capture device can go straight to MPEG2, so I don't have to compress AVI files.The Face (sorry, I can't get these characters, did you input them numerically?) Thanks for the tip, I'll most certainly try it.Regards, Bill

noel higgins28th April 20089:46 am U.K. Bill,Greetings from the UK, we just arrived. Apart from the other suggestions you have been given make sure you are not suffering from earth leakage problems. Most of the machines I have are double insulated (only two wires -active and neutral) yet the metal cases connect to earth via the antenna connectors that get theri earth from the antenna installation or other equipment they are connected to. If you dont have an earthed case you van bet high voltage AC imposed on video and audio lines. Other recording devices object (just a little) to these signals. A poor earth connection will means a little of this leakeage signal may be added to the line out signal. The results can be hum in the audio and distorted picture information.Nothing plays back (tracks better) than the original machine that was used to record a program assuming it has not since been worn out or adjusted. Some machines can bend or stretch the tapes if they are not correctly adjusted but you can easily check for damage of the tape surface by lifting the tape protective flap.cheers Noel

K .Lambert28th April 200810:46 am U.K. Hi Noel: Greetings from the UK to you:) I hope you enjoy your stay.........................Kevin

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Monday 28th April 2008
11:23 am U.K.

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There is no point in trying to lock up this page or clearing posts. From now on they will be restored. Any posts from a certain little plank named Ed-Beta will be removed. Please do not reply or supply any information to said 'Plank'. Please keep posts betamax related.

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Harold Koster 19th April 2008 7:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member!

K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin

Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel

Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets,

colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all

º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel

mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres

noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel

º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby.

noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel

Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig.

dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A

dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA

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Monday 28th April 2008
11:16 am U.K.

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º¿º 24th April 2008 11:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bill 26th April 2008 8:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill Bill 26th April 2008 9:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby 26th April 2008 11:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

K .Lambert 27th April 20084:56 pm U.K. Hi Betaphiles: A word of advice to anyone who's recently purchased or fitted a new idler set for a Sanyo Betamax.It has happened on the Classic make and another make of new idler sets too.As i've replaced quite a few of these ,this has come to light on a few occassions. A few times the washer, that holds the spring and spring cap, has worked loose(in the first few hours of useage) causing more noise when playing or FF and REW( depending on which wheel is involved).This action causes the washer,spring and spring cap to fly into the machine. One way to ensure this does'nt happen , is to remove the OLD securing washer, for the old idler, and use this on the new.I've never had one come loose that way.A fiddly job to the newbie but well worth the hassel. Strange but true.................Kevin

º¿º 27th April 20086:17 pm U.K. Betamax to DVD transfers ?? >> Try higher bitrate/oversampling rate, it'll improve pic quality.

colin b judd28th April 20086:53 am U.K. I agree re the slhf 100 being a great machine,mine is still playing great

Bill28th April 20087:05 am U.K. Thanks, Boby,So it could be that my capture device "likes" the SLHF100 more than it does the SLHF950 ! But, tapes actually recorded on the SLHF950 are better when played on that machine for capture than when they're played on the SLHF100. Of course that might have something to do with the fact that the SLHF950 tapes are no more than four or five years old as opposed to anything up to twenty years old for the SLHF100 's tapes. There are just too many variables!It's not a big problem, any combination produces perfectly useable results, it is just that I expected the SLHF950 to have the edge over the SLHF100, not the other way round. My capture device can go straight to MPEG2, so I don't have to compress AVI files.The Face (sorry, I can't get these characters, did you input them numerically?) Thanks for the tip, I'll most certainly try it.Regards, Bill

noel higgins28th April 20089:46 am U.K. Bill,Greetings from the UK, we just arrived. Apart from the other suggestions you have been given make sure you are not suffering from earth leakage problems. Most of the machines I have are double insulated (only two wires -active and neutral) yet the metal cases connect to earth via the antenna connectors that get theri earth from the antenna installation or other equipment they are connected to. If you dont have an earthed case you van bet high voltage AC imposed on video and audio lines. Other recording devices object (just a little) to these signals. A poor earth connection will means a little of this leakeage signal may be added to the line out signal. The results can be hum in the audio and distorted picture information.Nothing plays back (tracks better) than the original machine that was used to record a program assuming it has not since been worn out or adjusted. Some machines can bend or stretch the tapes if they are not correctly adjusted but you can easily check for damage of the tape surface by lifting the tape protective flap.cheers Noel

K .Lambert28th April 200810:46 am U.K. Hi Noel: Greetings from the UK to you:) I hope you enjoy your stay.........................Kevin

Restored Posts
Monday 28th April 2008
11:16 am U.K.

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There is no point in trying to lock up this page or clearing posts. From now on they will be restored. Any posts from a certain little plank named Ed-Beta will be removed. Please do not reply or supply any information to said 'Plank'. Please keep posts betamax related.

Restored Posts:-

Harold Koster 19th April 2008 7:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member!

K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin

Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel

Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets,

colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all

º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name:

Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel

mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres

noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel

º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby.

noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel

Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig.

dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A

dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA

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Monday 28th April 2008
11:08 am U.K.

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There is no point in trying to lock up this page or clearing posts. From now on they will be restored. Any posts from a certain little plank named Ed-Beta will be removed. Please do not reply or supply any information to said 'Plank'. Please keep posts betamax related.

Restored Posts:- Harold Koster 19th April 2008 7:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member!

K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin

Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel

Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets,

colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all

º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name:

Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel

mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres

noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel

º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby.

noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel

Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig.

dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A

dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA

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º¿º 24th April 2008 11:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bill 26th April 2008 8:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill Bill 26th April 2008 9:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby 26th April 2008 11:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

K .Lambert 27th April 20084:56 pm U.K. Hi Betaphiles: A word of advice to anyone who's recently purchased or fitted a new idler set for a Sanyo Betamax.It has happened on the Classic make and another make of new idler sets too.As i've replaced quite a few of these ,this has come to light on a few occassions. A few times the washer, that holds the spring and spring cap, has worked loose(in the first few hours of useage) causing more noise when playing or FF and REW( depending on which wheel is involved).This action causes the washer,spring and spring cap to fly into the machine. One way to ensure this does'nt happen , is to remove the OLD securing washer, for the old idler, and use this on the new.I've never had one come loose that way.A fiddly job to the newbie but well worth the hassel. Strange but true.................Kevin

º¿º 27th April 20086:17 pm U.K. Betamax to DVD transfers ?? >> Try higher bitrate/oversampling rate, it'll improve pic quality.

colin b judd28th April 20086:53 am U.K. I agree re the slhf 100 being a great machine,mine is still playing great Bill28th April 20087:05 am U.K. Thanks, Boby,So it could be that my capture device "likes" the SLHF100 more than it does the SLHF950 ! But, tapes actually recorded on the SLHF950 are better when played on that machine for capture than when they're played on the SLHF100. Of course that might have something to do with the fact that the SLHF950 tapes are no more than four or five years old as opposed to anything up to twenty years old for the SLHF100 's tapes. There are just too many variables!It's not a big problem, any combination produces perfectly useable results, it is just that I expected the SLHF950 to have the edge over the SLHF100, not the other way round. My capture device can go straight to MPEG2, so I don't have to compress AVI files.The Face (sorry, I can't get these characters, did you input them numerically?) Thanks for the tip, I'll most certainly try it.Regards, Bill

noel higgins28th April 20089:46 am U.K. Bill,Greetings from the UK, we just arrived. Apart from the other suggestions you have been given make sure you are not suffering from earth leakage problems. Most of the machines I have are double insulated (only two wires -active and neutral) yet the metal cases connect to earth via the antenna connectors that get theri earth from the antenna installation or other equipment they are connected to. If you dont have an earthed case you van bet high voltage AC imposed on video and audio lines. Other recording devices object (just a little) to these signals. A poor earth connection will means a little of this leakeage signal may be added to the line out signal. The results can be hum in the audio and distorted picture information.Nothing plays back (tracks better) than the original machine that was used to record a program assuming it has not since been worn out or adjusted. Some machines can bend or stretch the tapes if they are not correctly adjusted but you can easily check for damage of the tape surface by lifting the tape protective flap.cheers Noel

K .Lambert28th April 200810:46 am U.K. Hi Noel: Greetings from the UK to you:) I hope you enjoy your stay.........................Kevin

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K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin

Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel

Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets,

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Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel

mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres

noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel

º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby.

noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel

Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig.

dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A

dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA

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Hi Noel:Greetings from the UK to you:)I hope you enjoy your stay.........................Kevin

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Bill,

Greetings from the UK, we just arrived. Apart from the other suggestions you have been given make sure you are not suffering from earth leakage problems. Most of the machines I have are double insulated (only two wires -active and neutral) yet the metal cases connect to earth via the antenna connectors that get theri earth from the antenna installation or other equipment they are connected to. If you dont have an earthed case you van bet high voltage AC imposed on video and audio lines. Other recording devices object (just a little) to these signals. A poor earth connection will means a little of this leakeage signal may be added to the line out signal. The results can be hum in the audio and distorted picture information.

Nothing plays back (tracks better) than the original machine that was used to record a program assuming it has not since been worn out or adjusted. Some machines can bend or stretch the tapes if they are not correctly adjusted but you can easily check for damage of the tape surface by lifting the tape protective flap.

cheers Noel

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Thanks, Boby,

So it could be that my capture device "likes" the SLHF100 more than it does the SLHF950 ! But, tapes actually recorded on the SLHF950 are better when played on that machine for capture than when they're played on the SLHF100. Of course that might have something to do with the fact that the SLHF950 tapes are no more than four or five years old as opposed to anything up to twenty years old for the SLHF100 's tapes. There are just too many variables!

It's not a big problem, any combination produces perfectly useable results, it is just that I expected the SLHF950 to have the edge over the SLHF100, not the other way round. My capture device can go straight to MPEG2, so I don't have to compress AVI files.

The Face (sorry, I can't get these characters, did you input them numerically?) Thanks for the tip, I'll most certainly try it.

Regards, Bill

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I agree re the slhf 100 being a great machine,mine is still playing great

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addition to my previous post;

CAREFULLY PLACED THE LED, WRONG POSITION OR SPLITTED SOLDERING MATERIAL MAY LEAD TO A SHORT-CIRCUIT !

Happy repairing,

Regards,Boby.

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Hi Betaphiles:A word of advice to anyone who's recently purchased or fitted a new idler set for a Sanyo Betamax.It has happened on the Classic make and another make of new idler sets too.As i've replaced quite a few of these ,this has come to light on a few occassions.A few times the washer, that holds the spring and spring cap, has worked loose(in the first few hours of useage) causing more noise when playing or FF and REW( depending on which wheel is involved).This action causes the washer,spring and spring cap to fly into the machine.One way to ensure this does'nt happen , is to remove the OLD securing washer, for the old idler, and use this on the new.I've never had one come loose that way.A fiddly job to the newbie but well worth the hassel.Strange but true.................Kevin

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Harold Koster 19th April 2008 7:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member! K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets, colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby. noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig. dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA º¿º 24th April 2008 11:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Stuart 25th April 2008 6:36 pm U.K. things look better here now..may return soon if all stays normal Bill 26th April 2008 8:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill Bill 26th April 2008 9:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby 26th April 2008 11:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

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Harold Koster 19th April 2008 7:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member! K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets, colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby. noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig. dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA º¿º 24th April 2008 11:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Stuart 25th April 2008 6:36 pm U.K. things look better here now..may return soon if all stays normal Bill 26th April 2008 8:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill Bill 26th April 2008 9:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby 26th April 2008 11:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

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(a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets, colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby. noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig. dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA º¿º 24th April 2008 11:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Stuart 25th April 2008 6:36 pm U.K. things look better here now..may return soon if all stays normal Bill 26th April 2008 8:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill Bill 26th April 2008 9:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby 26th April 2008 11:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

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Harold Koster19th April 20087:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member! K .Lambert19th April 20089:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin Noel Higgins20th April 200812:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel Julia20th April 200812:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets, colin b judd20th April 200811:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all º¿º20th April 20081:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel mark21st April 200812:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres noel higgins21st April 20082:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel º¿º21st April 20084:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby22nd April 200812:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby. noel higgins22nd April 200812:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel Craig Felsmann22nd April 20085:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig. dhad023rd April 20085:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A dhad023rd April 20089:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA º¿º24th April 200811:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Stuart25th April 20086:36 pm U.K. things look better here now..may return soon if all stays normal Bill26th April 20088:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill Bill26th April 20089:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby26th April 200811:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

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Wow, such a fast and detailed response. I thank you profusely and commend you on turning over a new leaf.

Had you just done this a month ago, the Chat Page would have been spared much grief, horror and anger (K .Lambert).

Again, best regards to Boby and all....ED

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Hi BOBY!

Glad you are back and if you help me, I'll leave and the site won't go blank again because of the plank.

Any ideas on how to fix the LED meter on my SL-HF950?

Whatever you can suggest would be highly appreciated.

Thanks, ED

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Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs.

Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog)

The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines.

Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality.

Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result)

Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting)

There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process.

Kindly regards,Boby.

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Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989

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You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology.

To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully.

I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement.

I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever?

Regards to all, Bill

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things look better here now..may return soon if all stays normal

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Re: 2700sI'm in New Hampshire USA

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I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped.

Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer.It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A

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Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts.Cheers, Craig.

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Hi,

Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine?They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge.

See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html

which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3)

I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum.

cheers Noel

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I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded.

Regards,Boby.

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Mark,

Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives)

cheers Noel

mark
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Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site)A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubbers tyres

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Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel

colin b judd
Sunday 20th April 2008
10:38 am U.K.

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I wholehearledly agree with you all

Julia
Saturday 19th April 2008
11:59 pm U.K.

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James; Sorry about the hassle on this page.

Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts)

Greets,

Noel Higgins
Saturday 19th April 2008
11:23 pm U.K.

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Harold and Kevin,

I agree whole heartedly.

cheers Noel

K .Lambert
Saturday 19th April 2008
8:42 pm U.K.

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Harold:I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin

Harold Koster
Saturday 19th April 2008
6:33 pm U.K.

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Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member!

Julia
Saturday 19th April 2008
5:11 pm U.K.

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The same old MORON..LOL LOL LOL (my heart's pounding)

Julia
Saturday 19th April 2008
4:56 pm U.K.

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Now I know who you really are...I guess everybody does...huh

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
4:33 pm U.K.

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Your Correct Lambert,

When I first came on as a newbie, I ask a simple question to BOBY about how he repairs the LED'S that he promised to tell the Palsite.

Instead he told me to sens $80.00 in US cash to his pit where he lives.

Your correct, if Boby would have just answered my question a lot of this crap would not be happening.

I suggest you get another hobby for a while, because this site has been infected, thanks to NOEL, BOBBY , OLIVE and YOU.

Open your front door and let some fresh air in your home.

CHEER

K .Lambert
Saturday 19th April 2008
4:07 pm U.K.

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ED:The ONLY thing this site needs saving from is rambling ,childish ,idiotic morons like YOU......I don't know who's responsible for the posts getting removed , but one thing i DO KNOW ,is since you started your ranting and wining , this site has gone to the dogs.........Most here are tired of it and it won't surprise me at all if they refuse to post and pander to your pathetic demands....and slander..........

The good, decent, honest and reputible posters here will get the last laugh TRUST ME.........oh Ed, i think that description goes against you so you know what to do.............................GET A JOB!

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
3:12 pm U.K.

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Julia, OLIVE THOMAS

Stay out of this, you did enough damage on this site

This OLIVE THOMAS is a NOEL and BOBY clone

Im sorry that I post what has been going on with this site.. If you want to call me names..So be it.

I will continue to save the New people from being fleesed

CHEERS

Julia
Saturday 19th April 2008
2:53 pm U.K.

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What's wrong with that Ed Beta... sounds like a Lunatic.

Gary
Saturday 19th April 2008
2:46 pm U.K.

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James;

Try to push the small switches with your finger several times, it'll help for a moment.

Guess who
Saturday 19th April 2008
2:39 pm U.K.

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Planks ID ' cache-mtc-ah11.proxy.aol.com '

☺; idiot

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
2:05 pm U.K.

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HAROLD, Stop CRYING

You and NOEL and BOBY will be able to make money on this site again.

But please stop with the crying .. You will still get your money when NOEL and BOBY are back scamming the poster..

Enough, you cant go a day or 2 without your Palsite Comission Check or Money Order?

Harold Koster
Saturday 19th April 2008
1:10 pm U.K.

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Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member!

Guess
Saturday 19th April 2008
1:07 pm U.K.

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Guess
Saturday 19th April 2008
1:05 pm U.K.

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idiot

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
12:30 pm U.K.

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All of NOELS partners are here looking for a taste.

HAROLD< don't worry NOEL and the rest of the crew.

In other words, the checks in the mail,

YOu had me fooled

CHEERS

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
12:26 pm U.K.

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GUESS WHO? Come on BOBY, sell the rest of the brand new Betamax heads that you and Noel ripped off from a poor poster asking if these heads are worth anything.

Instead of coming here and asking us GUESS WHO? You should be in church asking for forgiveness,

CHEERS

Guess Who
Saturday 19th April 2008
12:00 pm U.K.

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Guess WHO
Saturday 19th April 2008
11:45 am U.K.

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He keeps on deleting as he wish no mater what. Planks ID is 'cache-mtc-ah11.proxy.aol.com'

Harold Koster
Saturday 19th April 2008
11:25 am U.K.

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Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so.

Regards from a very old member!

Boby
Saturday 19th April 2008
9:13 am U.K.

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James , usually it's the proximity swith problem. The swith is located on the below of the tape chasis as I remembered. I'm affraid you'll have to open the loading system mechanic to clean the rust on the contacts of the swithces. Bad contacts triggered the circuitry to think that there's no tape loaded.

That's the most common fault otherwise you'll have to ask Noel for further help.

Best,Boby.

james
Saturday 19th April 2008
8:05 am U.K.

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hi, can anyone help me fix my sony sl-c9ub it ejects tapes at swich on please help, its not a major problem but would like to fix it

Mike
Saturday 19th April 2008
3:20 am U.K.

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You a RACIST-buzzo WITH Noel&Boby as your dead bates. Don't you ever think we all dumb enough to take your SHT. You keep on making dumb excuses for your mutant in your Brain. The more you posts the mutant getting healtier. Be very carefull my PAL.

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
3:14 am U.K.

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Your BOBY

Wont work..

Tell the story about the Sony NEW Betamax heads for the HIGH end Betamax's.

Lets us know that horror story how you got them from a person that had no idea he had a fortune.

Cheers

John
Saturday 19th April 2008
3:06 am U.K.

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There's no Boby here Buzzo. Who's Boby ???

You spent 24 hours deleting this page, GET A LIFE BUZZO!

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
3:01 am U.K.

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Steven or should I say BOBY from the 3rd world country selling on ebay;

Tell the chat page how you and your pal NOEL got a hold of a couple of boxes of Brand New Sony Betamax heads from a poster on this chat page.

Dont forget to tell the story how you explained to the poor chat pager that Sony Betamax heads are worth nothing..

Let me not tell the story, you know it so well..

Waiting for you to respond and tell that story .. Its a great story how 2 pros fleesed Pal site poster..

CHEERS

John
Saturday 19th April 2008
3:00 am U.K.

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Name: markE-mail: [email protected] 17th April 2008 10:07 pm U.K. Time Message board - PHP script info Script name: MBoard - PHP message board Author: Klemen Stirn Current version: 1.3 Price: FREE Download Description MBoard is a PHP message board script (a simple forum). It is ideal for webmasters who don't need or want big (and empty) forums on their sites and are looking for a smaller, simple yet effective message board. This message board doesn't require any SQL databases. It stores all posts as HTML pages so it doesn't take up much of the server resources (what is usually the case with larger flat-text database message boards). Features include support for smileys, instant "New post" notification, easy deletion of inappropriate posts etc. It even comes with a bad words filter which replaces all bad words with **** in new posts and a powerful SPAM filter. You can completely customize the look of the message board by editing header, footer and style files! MBoard has been tested on servers under Linux and Windows operating systems. If your server is not under Linux or Windows (most are) this script might still work if configured properly (please let me know if you test it and it works). Requirements UNIX or Windows server (it *might* work on others too) PHP4 support FTP access and a FTP program

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Name: markE-mail: [email protected] 17th April 2008 10:07 pm U.K. Time here's the link if the webmaster is interested http://www.phpjunkyard.com/php-message-board.php

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Name: JohnE-mail: mailto:_@%20%20.%20%20.Thursday 17th April 2008 11:52 pm U.K. Time will they interested in or be able to implement..?

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Name: markE-mail: [email protected] 18th April 2008 12:27 am U.K. Time Well lets hope they will use something like this otherwise it's a useless chatpage. Unfortunately every time anyone 'responds' to a certain 'plank' on here the whole page is cleared. The planks ID is 123866 123863/1207928631 cache-dtc-ah11.proxy.aol.com

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Name: ED BETAE-mail: [email protected] 18th April 2008 1:09 am U.K. Time I checked on this MARK and like NOEL. He makes MONEY on this..

We are nOT here to change this PalSite, only to ask and answer questions about Betamax.

Take your SCAM some place else MARK

Other than that, Have a nice day.. CHEERS

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Name: JohnE-mail: _@Friday 18th April 2008 2:18 am U.K. Time Mark I 'know' you and there's no need to justify.

Mark never scam. Noel has to make money for a living.

ED BETA you 'strike' good and honest people for a 'living' !

The planks ID is 123866 123863/1207928631 cache-dtc-ah11.proxy.aol.com

HIS AIM IS NOTHING BUT ERASING THE PAGE FOR HIS HUGE EGO!sorry to say that Buzzo.

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
2:53 am U.K.

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STEVEN, --BOBY? Im not a RACIST..

STEVEN
Saturday 19th April 2008
2:51 am U.K.

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ED BETA you're RACIST !

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
1:43 am U.K.

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ALAN, I AND The other's have no problem with these people making a living off this chat site..THEY have and they make a very nice living.

It a great venue to take advantage of posters looking for a little help..

You see what goes on here and protesting about it only makes Noel and Boby look guilty.

Stop acting stupid, or maybe you get a taste of the action.

They dont need you to explain it anyway.

CHEERS

alan
Saturday 19th April 2008
1:28 am U.K.

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Seems messages keep disappearing here and I dont think it is a problem with the server. Wondering how many messages of interest (non squabbling ones were erased)?

I am also willing to bet that the people who are complaining about someone else making £ or $ providing them with a product or service they desire do not go to work every day and not expect a pay cheque. If you do not want to pay for something no one is forcing you to. The profit motive is what makes things happen in this world. Sony made lots of money in the late 1970s and early 1980s by selling Betamax decks. In fact it was their biggest profit center for a number of years. Do you think they would have stopped making Betamaxs if they could still make money by selling them? In a like manner if the pople providing goods and services to a small niche market can no longer make enough to make it worth their while they will then stop doing so and you will be left with nothing.

Unless you are dealing with the government, you can only sell something for what someone is willing to pay for it and you can only buy something for what someone is willing to sell it for. If you think someone is trying to sell something for more than it is worth don't buy it. No one is making you. Likewise no one is being forced to sell something for less than he or she is willing to take.

Noel has helped me with some advice in the past and not asked anything for it. I have given out advise on here when I have been able to. I have also sold a couple of items that people were looking for at a price we both agreed on and also made NTSC copies of a bunch of PAL tapes for someone who wanted it done. I charged an agreed upon price for this. It did tie up 3 of my VCRs for the better part of a week.

Interesting pic of my stack of betas- www.epguides.com/comics/betamax.jpg Guessing not many have all three of these- Sony Sl HF900, SL HF 950, SL HF 750 & SL HF 1000. The VHS is a Samsung ised for converting NTSC<>PAL since my bigscreen is NTSC only.

ED BETA
Saturday 19th April 2008
1:07 am U.K.

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Just for general information

I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH erasing THIS CHAT PAGE.

But my Pal NOEL has a lot to do with picking the pockets of people that come here for general information.

Just go back to the past posting and read the horrifying post of poor poster that had their pocket picked cleaned and their Betamax that was told was only good for the bin , placed up for auction on ebay for a nice profit.

LET NOEL explain that ..

LET his pal Boby explain how they took a chat page poster of his carton of NEW Sony heads worth THOUSANDS for a few pennies, telling him they were worth nothing. Boby is still selling them on ebay ..

I stood back and said nothing .. Even OLIVE was upset and that takes a lot.

Dont push your guilt on me.. I just post and tell what goes on here and have no powers to erase pages.

PS: Boby and NOEL --You tried to Fleece me for $80.00 to get the LED information.. Wanted me to send $80.00 to INDONSIA --LOL Not in this life

CHEERS

Noel Higgins
Saturday 19th April 2008
12:06 am U.K.

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FOR GENERAL INFORMATION OF CHATPAGE USERS WANTING ASSISTANCE. JUST LIST YOUR PROBLEM.

Ignore certain ramblings that are lies or don't make sense. The individual "cleared" the chatpage using his ED beta ID a few times accidently. Still, that's how dumb this person is.

cheers Noel

ED BETA
Friday 18th April 2008
7:44 pm U.K.

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BY the WAY the SONY NEW BEtamax ended up with his partner --BOBY on eBay

ED BETA
Friday 18th April 2008
7:43 pm U.K.

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Alan, There is a difference between a person using this site to help people or even do some repairs for a few pounds.

Go back to the OLD post and see the nonsence that was pulled by NOELS and the other that ripped off brand new Sony heads from a poster that asked what these old heads were going for..

HE or his Sony heads were never heard from again and ended up on eBay.

They ripped his guts out to get those Sony Heads..

I let that go , because its all about the money on this page..

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