Hello, I have recently bought a Sony SL-C6UB, when I try to play my old tapes on it the picture distorts then goes back to normal then distorts again, this happens around every two seconds.

I don't think the tapes are a problem because everyone of them distorts the same.

Can someone please help?

Thanks,

The cassette lid on my Sony SL-F1 Betamax doesn't close when I push Eject or Play, although I hear noise, but it doesn't move.Possible cause? How can this be fixed?

Which Sony Betamax recorder models have a PCM switch for use with PCM-501?I know only of SL-F1 and SL-C9. ..

Harold Koster 19th April 2008 7:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member!

K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin

Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel

Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets,

colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all

º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel

mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres

noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel

º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby.

noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel

Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig.

dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A

dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA

I have several hundred used Betamax tapes for sale.Anybody interested?Rgs. John

Geoff,

Some expert need no manual for servicing/maintaing.

You can keep all part of the machine forever but you ain't repair the Rotary Disc Assembly.

Ebay is the common place for rare manuals.

Noel would proabably give a very good help on C9.

See ya...

Hi all, Just to let everone know I am now doing betamax transfers to DVD or even VHS if you insist. I would like to keep this C9 going as long as possible so does anyone know where I can get a service manual for it.

Page with pinouts for Trinicon cameras.

http://uk.geocities.com/olive_e_thomas/10pinvideofaq.htm

Also has pinouts for the cameras used on VHS decks.

Tthere is one on ebay www.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PXL2000-Fisher-Price-Pixelvision-Camera-Accessories_W0QQitemZ350055776109QQihZ022QQcategoryZ11719QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvcHCQQJHgc&feature=related

Modifying pin-outs would probably work. Signal compatibility is absolute.

HiIve not got a betamovie camcorder, Ive got the trinicon type which hasnt got a vcr, I think it records on the portable betamax recorder. Have you herd of the 80s pixelvision camcorder which records on audio tapes. Its posible to conect them up to a camcorder. Is it possible to connect the trinicon with the right cables? If not what can I use to record on if Ive not got a betamax recorder?ThanksAaron

Sorry but there's now way to connect a Betamovie camcorder to another VCR as a Betamovie is a record-only unit and has no playback capability. You'll need to get hold of a Beta VCR to play tapes.

HiCan anybody help me. Ive got a Sony Trinicon Betacamcorder and won't to conect it to a modern camcorder, is there connectors that can do this? Any help will be much appreaciated.ThanksAaron

Good too see you again Olive, it's been a bery long time.

Greetings,Boby.

It's a shame the archived section of the chatpage is a whopping 40-something megabytes. Admittedly I'm using a slow computer but that's still a lot of file to choke on..

Register again?? Well..I don't know what's going on..really weird.

I ASSUMED THE WEB COMPONENT MUST BE MODIFIED TO AVOID THE PLANK, don't you say so webmaster?

Had to register again, what's going on? Nobody posting? It's all a bit wierd

Logging with password is OK but that doesn't prevent the page of being erased, don't you say so Mark...?

I just wondered what is the point of this new registration process, it doesn't seem to do anything. I was hoping for a log in with a password that would then enable posting (without revealing your email unless you wanted to). Bit confused that's all.

I don't see anything that can block the Plank, am pretty sure there's something that has to be to be modified. How'd you like to give som explanation Mark...?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I believe Mark is helping us out, surely he is. I hope you can continue watching and see if the Plank try anything stupid.

Thanks Mark.

No name.

So are all our problems solved? I don't see how this works, can someone explain please?

Given what has been going on here lately, yes I do have reservations about my email address being shown to one and all.

Hi Betaphiles:Anything that prevents childish idiots from posting on this board is welcome.It's about time too.Mark: So you saying the e-mail address that is displayed with your post is fake?!Why worry, unless you have something to hide or are planning anything that leads to retaliation?..............Kevin

Hi Betaphiles:Anything that prevents childish idiots from posting on this board is welcome.It's about time too..............Kevin

Does it mean you have to use a legitimate email address, I'm ok with that but I don't want it shown on my postings. Anyone know how it's going to work??

Does anyone know how this will work?

It now appears there is a registration before posting.

The plank is exhausted.(gig)

Ed the plank has gone to sleep

Yes we know

Boby28th April 200812:55 pm U.K. Yes, HF950 have raster line over the edge on Tape to Digital transfers. That's correct mostly but not always. ( that could be the LINES resolution problem, somewhere )The differences on using MPEG and AVI;AVI layer: is a format for editing purposes (much more greater picture quality than MPEG) Usually used for Editing/compressing/Transfering Movie. disadvantages= needs a lot of HardMedia bandwith and spaces.MPEG layer; very efficient format for capturing movie yet need only few bandwith. disadvantages= not good for 'FILE' conversion (bad for platform transformation)About earth leakage issue;EARTH LEAKAGE transformer is the only device that can suppress noise and spike problem over the AC lines. This transformer separates AC power from any lines problem such as static, Hummming noise, spike etc. Usually used in high-end audio (Tubes amplification). This is the best POWER insulation for sensitif devices/instrumentation. Very exclusive device for Betamax machines.Greets,Boby

Boby28th April 20081:07 pm U.K. PS: I just wonder if macro vision protection has anything to do with that 'edges'....

º¿º28th April 20082:38 pm U.K. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer

º¿º28th April 20082:56 pm U.K. http://www.mhennessy1.f9.co.uk/isolating/index.htm

º¿º 24th April 2008 11:46 pm U.K. Great item at low $$, http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-EDV-9500-ED-Beta-Player-46-Tapes-New-Used_W0QQitemZ310043982709QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39830QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bill 26th April 2008 8:55 am U.K. You know my views on the recent problem. Perhaps this latest, probably worst and most destructive convulsion on the site might also have been the last one. It feels like we might be getting out of the woods at last and back to a sensible community with a common interest in a great technology. To turn back to topic: recently I've been using my SLHF100 to transfer anything up to 20-year old recordings to DVD. Yes, I know that can be controversial, but that's another matter! Now "quality" can indeed be subjective, but it seems to me that tapes recorded originally on the SLHF100 look better and transfer better from that machine than they do when played on my German import SLHF950ES. I don't think the SLHF950ES has head, or tracking, or any other problems, stuff originally recorded on it transfers beautifully. I should say that my present transfer method is to record to PC using a capture card, get rid of commercials etc., and then make DVDs. I hope I'm right in thinking that this avoids having more than one analogue transfer while still enabling editing and enhancement. I'm not saying that the SLHF950ES results are bad, just that the SLHF100 seems to have the edge, particularly in picture stability. This wasn't what I would have expected. Any comments/ideas/explanations, whatever? Regards to all, Bill

Bill 26th April 2008 9:04 am U.K. Sorry to have to come back, I should have said that my SLHF100 dates from 1985 and my SLHF950 - I think - dates from 1989 Boby 26th April 2008 11:54 am U.K. Bill I hardly see what you're picturing anyway I'll try to get a few sketchs. Looks like to me that there's mix-match issue withe the decoding system/hardware. Sometimes entry level betamax machine does a good feed to a capture device such as AD-DA capturing device. (analog>digital or digital to analog) The pre-recorded tapes does not always gives the same result on different machines. Wiring among analog machine to Digital capture device greatly affect the picture quality. Video output signals also affect in capturing process.( higher mV ususally gives best result) Converting process also reduces picture quality. (AVI to MPEG converting) There are so many aspects that have to be consider in order to gain a good result at the end of the 'burning' process. Kindly regards,Boby.

K .Lambert 27th April 20084:56 pm U.K. Hi Betaphiles: A word of advice to anyone who's recently purchased or fitted a new idler set for a Sanyo Betamax.It has happened on the Classic make and another make of new idler sets too.As i've replaced quite a few of these ,this has come to light on a few occassions. A few times the washer, that holds the spring and spring cap, has worked loose(in the first few hours of useage) causing more noise when playing or FF and REW( depending on which wheel is involved).This action causes the washer,spring and spring cap to fly into the machine. One way to ensure this does'nt happen , is to remove the OLD securing washer, for the old idler, and use this on the new.I've never had one come loose that way.A fiddly job to the newbie but well worth the hassel. Strange but true.................Kevin

º¿º 27th April 20086:17 pm U.K. Betamax to DVD transfers ?? >> Try higher bitrate/oversampling rate, it'll improve pic quality.

colin b judd28th April 20086:53 am U.K. I agree re the slhf 100 being a great machine,mine is still playing great

Bill28th April 20087:05 am U.K. Thanks, Boby,So it could be that my capture device "likes" the SLHF100 more than it does the SLHF950 ! But, tapes actually recorded on the SLHF950 are better when played on that machine for capture than when they're played on the SLHF100. Of course that might have something to do with the fact that the SLHF950 tapes are no more than four or five years old as opposed to anything up to twenty years old for the SLHF100 's tapes. There are just too many variables!It's not a big problem, any combination produces perfectly useable results, it is just that I expected the SLHF950 to have the edge over the SLHF100, not the other way round. My capture device can go straight to MPEG2, so I don't have to compress AVI files.The Face (sorry, I can't get these characters, did you input them numerically?) Thanks for the tip, I'll most certainly try it.Regards, Bill

noel higgins28th April 20089:46 am U.K. Bill,Greetings from the UK, we just arrived. Apart from the other suggestions you have been given make sure you are not suffering from earth leakage problems. Most of the machines I have are double insulated (only two wires -active and neutral) yet the metal cases connect to earth via the antenna connectors that get theri earth from the antenna installation or other equipment they are connected to. If you dont have an earthed case you van bet high voltage AC imposed on video and audio lines. Other recording devices object (just a little) to these signals. A poor earth connection will means a little of this leakeage signal may be added to the line out signal. The results can be hum in the audio and distorted picture information.Nothing plays back (tracks better) than the original machine that was used to record a program assuming it has not since been worn out or adjusted. Some machines can bend or stretch the tapes if they are not correctly adjusted but you can easily check for damage of the tape surface by lifting the tape protective flap.cheers Noel

K .Lambert28th April 200810:46 am U.K. Hi Noel: Greetings from the UK to you:) I hope you enjoy your stay.........................Kevin

There is no point in trying to lock up this page or clearing posts. From now on they will be restored. Any posts from a certain little plank named Ed-Beta will be removed. Please do not reply or supply any information to said 'Plank'. Please keep posts betamax related.

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Harold Koster 19th April 2008 7:33 pm U.K. Friends are formed on sites such as these. Please, please let it remain so. Regards from a very old member!

K .Lambert 19th April 2008 9:42 pm U.K. Harold: I agree with you wholeheartedly.............Kevin

Noel Higgins 20th April 2008 12:23 am U.K. Harold and Kevin, I agree whole heartedly. cheers Noel

Julia 20th April 2008 12:59 am U.K. James; Sorry about the hassle on this page. Find a small switch on the metallic surface (where the tape resides) and try to push several times, if that doesn't wok I'm affraid you'll have to open the whole mechanical parts and have the contacts cleaned. (a small piece of soft type abrasive paper would cleaned the rust contacts) Greets,

colin b judd 20th April 2008 11:38 am U.K. I wholehearledly agree with you all

º¿º 20th April 2008 1:54 pm U.K. Saved usefull info, pardon for a bit personal censored; Name: Noel Higgins E-mail: [email protected] Wednesday 9th April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Time General Information on something that has worked for me. Capstan rollers are becoming hard to get for most beta machines and are very expensive. A tip for those wanting to try and restore a capstan roller in a VCR. The rubber rollers become hard on the surface and can even get a build up of tape or other deposits on them. Assuming the top and bottom bearings of the holder have not collapsed or worn too much and that the rubber is not stone hard or has large cracks or holes in it, the surface may be able to be restored. Remove the roller assembly from the machine. THE SOFT TOUCH METHOD 1/ Smear undiluted detergent onto the surface of the roller but try to avoid the sides (ends) of the roller to keep it out of the bearings. 2/ Work it into the surface with your finger nail or a hard edged surface like the back of a knife and make sure the the roller surface has an even coat. 3/ Sit the holder down on its back (or whatever works if it's not a late model SONY capstan roller assembly) and allow it to soak into the rubber for 10 minute or so. 4/ Use a damp cloth or rag to remove the detergent and as much rubbish from the rollers surface as you can. The use a dry rag to rub the surface up to a dull finish. refit the assembly to the machine. THE HEAVY HANDED METHOD (Wear suitable clothing and glasses this could get messy) Get a Dremel super tool or similar with a fine grade stone grinding wheel of approx 8mm to 10mm diameter. Run the tool at half to two thirds speed and while holding the capstan rollers metal mount between your thumb and index finger with the side of the rubber roller (capstan pin side when fitted) most exposed facing up. (I have assumed it is a roller from a late model SONY. Other model holders may have to be held differently) TAKING GREAT CARE NOT TO TOUCH YOUR FINGERS apply the tool gently to the edge of the capstan roller at a 45 degree angle to the surface so that tool imparts spins to the roller up to a very fast speed and move the grinding stone across the surface slowly and evenly to the other edge keeping the pressure and motion constant until you get right to the other edge and then lift. Check that the resulting "wear" to the surface is even and has the right effect of roughening up and cleaning the capstan rollers rubber surface. Repeat the procedure until you are satisfied that the roller surface is even, clean and grips reasonably like fresh rubber. Do not take so much rubber off the roller that it significantly loses its diameter and cannot press onto the capstan when refitted. I HAVE DEVELOPED THESE METHODS OVER TIME AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU WITH ALL CARE AND NO RESPONSIBILITY. Cheers Noel

mark 21st April 2008 12:27 pm U.K. Pesonally I wouldn't advise the use of a detergent on rubber. I'd go for something like this http://www.reelprosoundguys.com/RestoreKit.html (I have no connection with this site) A similar product is used by scaletrix enthusiasts at race meetings as it rejuvinates rubber tyres

noel higgins 21st April 2008 2:47 pm U.K. Mark, Fair comment about not using detergent. I also use medical alcohol. (i.e. not additives) cheers Noel

º¿º 21st April 2008 4:15 pm U.K. Thanks Mark for the URL. Boby 22nd April 2008 12:06 am U.K. I usually use Kerosene for cleaning and Methanaol(high grade alcohol) afterwards, assuming the deposited material is not bonded. Regards,Boby.

noel higgins 22nd April 2008 12:37 am U.K. Hi, Does anyone here know a source for replacement heads for a SONY SL200ME multisystem machine? They did not sell in Australia to my knowledge. See palsite list at http://www.palsite.com/pref_heads2.html which says DSR79R for the 200ME or DSR72R for the 200ME(MK3) I am also after heads for an SL800ME which has really weird heads called RSV3B which are really two sets of heads in one. Very thick disk somewhat like a VHS but still has an upper and lower drum. cheers Noel

Craig Felsmann 22nd April 2008 5:26 am U.K. Just scored one of those white XL Beta T-shirts on-line from Canadia, and am wearing it with pride and getting a few complimentary comments! They are very good quality Gildan brand shirts. Cheers, Craig.

dhad0 23rd April 2008 5:49 pm U.K. I have a couple Sony SLHF2700's for parts. Anyone interested? Otherwise they'll be dumped. Also I have a head and drum assembly for the 2700 which is used but OK. Make me an offer. It says DSH-62B-R and A-6050-337-A

dhad0 23rd April 2008 9:04 pm U.K. Re: 2700s I'm in New Hampshire USA

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The SL HF 900 wil play back BIs properly if it is either a Japanese unit or one that has had some parts left out of the US version put inside it. Several parts are needed to get it to record in BIs, the most expensive ebing a realy whihc is about $16- if that is left off the modification the machine can playback but not record BIs. I have had the full modification done to all my 900s and know about the partial one since when a relay was unavailable had the rest of the parts installed adn it played back BIs fine but did not record. You can hear a click when switching the record speeds from x-1 to x-2- it is this way on the 1000.

There is also an NEC deck which plays and records Bis

I was thinking: I have never seen a SLO-1700 in person, but I have an SLO-1800, which is NTSC and is a front-loading SUPERBETA. However, if the SLO-1700 is a top loader, I would think that you could remove the cassette cover (isn't it just screwed on?) and the outer casing.

This manuever itself can "fix" lots of mechanical problems. Even if the top doesn't open with the EJECT button, you should be able to see and manually turn the motor belt that controls the top...

I have 3 L-750 Tapes in Betamax which I would like to have tranferred to a DVD or VHS. They are short instructions for making doll house items. Can anyone do this and if so what would be the cost. If this is not practicle would someone please let me know so that I won't keep checking. Thank you, Deb

My 'stacks' of Betamax VCR's are high, my wife is angry & threatening to leave with my son in tow, sooooo....I'm letting these gems go for a song: Offered here, subject to prior sale or withdrawal, is an assortment of well used Beta VCRs. Toshiba vm415; manual, no remote. This unit probably just needs new belts, as it still frames a pre-recorded tape very nice. But it will not engage in play or record, at present. Offered for $288. Sears 5318; a top-loader from 1981. Cosmetically, it's seen better days; several buttons are missing. A tape is jammed within, the motor whirrs, but will not wind/eject, etc. Offered for $224. Sanyo 3900-II. Does not power up, or function. Would make a nice paper weight. Offered for $199. Toshiba vm32; it's crying for medicare. Eject needs manual assistance; play/ff/rew tries to work. Perhaps just needs belts. Offered for $152. Shipping on each item is $29.50. Check my eBay feedback. Pickup in Seattle is permissable. These are Betas I purchased from eBay during a period of time when I went off my medication. It sickens me to part with these rare gems at so low a cost, but marriage & family come first.

SONY SL-HF 750. I paid $400.00 for this machine off eBay, the seller told me it would play tapes but no video, so I figured it would need head cleaning, new heads, etc.. He insured the thing for $500.00, sent it to me from Canada. The unit arrived, it has no POWER, I have no way of checking it out. I contacted the Post Office, they won't do anything because it's from Canada, I have to return it and have him file the insurance claim. He refuses to let me do this. I wonder why he insured it? I've already got one working SL-HF 750, the SL-HF 860D, an SL-HF 2000, and an SL-T50ME, and this extra 750 is just taking up space. If someone wants to make me an offer, the case is in very good condition. Includes the users manual, English and French, no remote however. More stacks of Beta for sale in future posts. Give me a shout if you desire a particular model...I have at least one of each!

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Let me say this one last time in answer to all the idiots e-mailing me on the subject: Betacam tapes are OXIDE based FerroCobalt doped tape. Betacam-SP tapes are Metal Particle Tapes, not needed for SuperBeta or SHB-B1s at all, but work fine if used for such, if you can afford it. Betacam-SP tapes are NOT dangerous or injurious to SuperBeta VCRs at all !!! In fact they run ever smoother with less wear than Oxide Tapes, by far , as has long been shown in laboratory tests. Where does such Wrongful misinformation get started? Chromium Dioxide tape when introduced to the audio and video world in 1970 was also "rumored" FALSELY, to be injurious and damaging to standard tape heads in older recorders. This was untrue also, as Dupont, who "invented" Chrome tape, proved that they ran, smoother, and were LESS wearing to heads than standard Oxide tapes. Why do people persist in believing that every NEW advancement in Tape Technology is detrimental to previous technology heads???? I have a PhD in Clinical Psychology, and yet this "logic" or "lack of it" eludes me totally, when it comes to man's stupidity!!! The only "TRUTH" that can be demonstrated as real is that Americans universally have always, historically, made the worst possible choice of technology, when given a choice. The American dislike and abandonment of BETA, is not the only mistake we have made, historically, in superior technology. All Toshiba models are superior to Sony, only the public never discovered that fact....the remote syndrome that I described in detail earlier was it's only fault.

Hi folks..it's been a very long time since I met all BetaLuvEr... I have several Beta parts for sale esp PAL HF950 ES type , lemme know if I meet your requirements, and TDK japan made tapes sealed in a corrugated box.

Sorry para dos

I would like to find a home a collection of Beta movies. The movielist is as follows:

Beverly Hills Cop IBeverly Hills Cop IICity Heat-Clint Eastwood,Burt ReynoldsCobra-StalloneFull Metal Jacket-Stanley Kubrick(Director)Gotcha-Anthony EdwardsGremlinsHouseLassiter-Tom SelleckMaximum Overdrive-Emilio EstevezThe Right Stuff- Ed Harris-Scott Glenn-Dennis Quaid-Sam Shepard,etc

The SqueezeTightrope-Clint EastwoodVice Versa-Judge Reinhold

I would like to sell everything for 350 dollars +$25.00 handling+shipping. Please let meknow.

Here's one for fellow owners of the various Sony SL-HFR/HFP combo units. Irecently connected one of my SL-HFR units (SL-HFR70 with HFP -200 processor)to my Pioneer RX-590 Dolby Pro-Logic receiver, which is in turn outputtingthe audio signal to a Sony SA-VE315 home theater satellite speaker system.Expecting surround sound from the Beta Hi-Fi Pro-Logic encoded movie tapeplaying in the SL-HFR70/HFP -200, I was surprised when the resulting audiocame out of the CENTER-CHANNEL SPEAKER ONLY. There was no audio coming fromthe front L/R or the surround speakers. Not sure why the audio was comingonly from the center speaker, I disconnected this unit from the receiverand connected one of my other SL-HFR/HFP units (a SL-HFR60/HFP-100 combounit), and played the same tape over the system again. Same result with theSL-HFR60/HFP-100: audio from the center speaker only; no audio activityfrom the L/R front or surround speakers. This had me completely stumped, asthe regular SL-HF units in my Beta collection has had no problemtransmitting surround-sound audio when connected to the receiver. Just tomake sure, I then played the very same movie tape in turn through mySL-HF900, SL-HFT7, and SL-HF860D, all connected to the samereceiver/speaker set-up; all three of these SL-HF units played the tapewith resulting surround sound coming from all five satellite speakers. I'mcertain the Beta HFP Hi-Fi processors are working correctly, which leavesme with a possible conclusion that for whatevertechnical/electronical/systematical reasons, the SL-HFR/HFP combo units arenot able to correctly transmit/pass on the proper audio signal to aPro-Logic receiver to decode the audio for appropriate surround sound. Thisof course is just a hypothesis drawn from observation/experience; I have notechnical knowledge or know-how to back this up. But I would be veryinterested in the observations and experiences of other SL-HFR/HFP combounit owners if they had the same problem when they connected their combounits to a receiver/home theater speaker system, as well as opinions andtheories from Betaphile folks at large. This one's got me stumped; I'd beinterested in hearing opinions and thoughts from one and all out there.

Firstly - , I am selling a SL-HF 300 Hi-fi Beta VCR. It was dropped during shippingand got the front circuit board crushed. I didmanage to get it to work fine and used it for 6 months, but I haveaquired a better one since then. It plays perfectly, but doesnot record too well (kinda grainy). It still records in hi-fi perfectly,so maybe someone might want it as an audio recorder.There are a few scratches and the tracking and sharpness knobs are gone,but they still work. Anyone want it? Great as aplayer or for spare parts. I'm looking for about$350 American Dollars plus shipping. Send me an e-mailif you're interested.

I just got a SL-HF 400 and have another SL-HF 300 in perfect shape,this is my reason for selling it.

Also, the load of movie tapes I was selling is sold.

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Lately I find that the best way to lubricate my Beta vcrs is to use pure cooking lard available at any grocery store. I apply it sparingly to all the parts requiring lubrication as it is superior in lubricity to molylubenium specified for this purpose and lasts longer too. I also use it to coat the inside and exterior of the lid of my Beta vcr as it produces a fine shine, cleans thoroughly, and prevents rust from occurring.

For some reason this board attracts the trolls. On another board I know (nothing remotely Betamax related, FYI) it somehow seems that a caustic, angry person somehow ended up as an admin. He does nothing but crap on the "Noobs" if they happen to post an idea that disagrees with his. Ugh.

For some reason this board attracts the trolls. On another board I know (nothing remotely Betamax related, FYI) it somehow seems that a caustic, angry person somehow ended up as an admin. He does nothing but crap on the "Noobs" if they happen to post an idea that disagrees with his. Ugh.

Well, unfortunately for us normal folks, the psychotic creep is back making idiotic posts under a brilliantly original name. Again, it is plain to see that the idiotic posts are via an AOL proxy server (cache-dtc-ae08.proxy.aol.com), which does not originate in Vermont. Of course, why this doofus is doing this and what this nutcase is trying to prove is beyond all of us, and he is way too cowardly to post under a real name or e-mail address. It’s hard to believe that keeping track of my eBay activity could fill someone’s empty life, but apparently it can.

Good day, Noel. For some reason this board attracts the trolls. On another board I know (nothing remotely Betamax related, FYI) it somehow seems that a caustic, angry person somehow ended up as an admin. He does nothing but crap on the "Noobs" if they happen to post an idea that disagrees with his. Ugh.

Struth, is someone still needing their presciption filled?

Anyway, to all those who read my request for help with video heads availability, please forget chasing up the heads for the two multisystem machines I mentioned. Turns out it was a Sony SLT50ME machine.

Hello Olive, for those posts that were really you, long time no hear. Your posts always seem to have an added hint of verbal dexterity associated with some actual brain power.

Pity it can't be handed out to those in greater need.

regards Noel

I'd ask the chatpage guys to remove your loser posts 'Bill' but then how could you get the endless pleas of assistance from the relatives of deposed African dictators who now need your help to shuttle ill-gotten millions into an overseas bank account.

By the way if you get an email from some account manager with an inactive account that turns out to belong to someone who died in a tragic car crash with no next of kin and he needs you to stand in as such - well those are actually legitimate. Clear $6 million the last one I helped out on...

Hi, I found a post on this Chat Page concerning the Sony LV 1901 Console TV with a link to Ebay. The link didn't work.

Can anyone tell me what the going price for the Sony LV 1901 Console TV is? I recently bought one and would like to know how much it's worth and can't find any prices anywhere on the Net.

Thanks so much for your help.

The sentiments expressed rather recklessly so far could all be written with a tone and subtlety that gets the point across without clobbering people with it - it's just a question of effort (and some applied intelligence). On the plus side, anything that increases awareness of different aspects of the hobby usually has some identifiable good to it, and despite the prevalent tone, that seems to be the case here.

Well, unfortunately for us normal folks, the psychotic creep is back making idiotic posts under a brilliantly original name. Again, it is plain to see that the idiotic posts are via an AOL proxy server (cache-dtc-ae08.proxy.aol.com), which does not originate in Vermont. Of course, why this doofus is doing this and what this nutcase is trying to prove is beyond all of us, and he is way too cowardly to post under a real name or e-mail address. It’s hard to believe that keeping track of my eBay activity could fill someone’s empty life, but apparently it can.

If you think you must choose between poor accessorization and mangled aesthetics on the one hand or functionality on the other in order to buy a budget quality mono machine for what you can often find a working HF900 for, well, that's what the Buy It Now button is for. So why don't you put your money where your mouth is, smart guy?

Not everyone has $235 to waste on an eyesore that could be bought elsewhere with a little patience for $60.

Look who can formulate coherent sentences. Now look who cannot.

Look at who can communicate useful, on topic information on this board. Now look at who is just a gadfly, spewing bile and adding nothing to the topic, the hobby or civilized ineraction

Hi Guys!

I just bought a SL-HF100 HiFi Machine, and have the common fault of missing segments of the VU Audio level meter leds. Does anybody know which components are the usual culprit of this? Also, my clock is faint, is this a psu problem?

If somebody could help me out here id be grateful!!

Long live betamax!!!!

cheers

Palsite denizens ??? (hicshicshics)

Hello Palsite denizens. I have a Sony SL-HF300 that has a minor problem, and I'm hopingsomeone here can help me figure out what it is. When doing recordings, itlooks like there's some interference on the very bottom of the picture. Itmoves back and forth along the bottom, and is sort of "colorful." Thisisn't easy to describe, so I'm hoping someone understands this description.It does it especially when I record BII over BIII on the same tape or viceversa. If I record on a blank portion of the tape it will usually go awayafter a second or two, but sometimes stays for the whole recording. Thisstarted to happen when I put new heads on, and I did re-align the tape pathas necessary, so I'm guessing it may have to do with some adjustment Imissed. Other than that minor problem the VCR works excellent, with a greatpicture (better than the picture on my Toshiba M22 also with new heads), butif anyone can help me with this problem, I would greatly appreciate it.

IMHO, internal trimpot adjustment should only be used as a last resort or when replacing parts in their way, as these are provided to fine-tune circuits with regard to part tolerance. Now if tracking has gone that much out of way, I'd first try to clean the tracking pot itself, then make sure tape path is adjusted correctly, look for a weak signal from the control head, etc. If you stick to your plan of trimpot fiddling, make sure you mark their original position.

ame: Olive E ThomasEmail: olive_e_thomas@yah¿¿.c¿mWednesday 29th June 2005 2:33 am U.K. Time There are a set of trimpots just to the right of the cassette carraige mechanism that can be adjusted. I'd have to see a picture to point them out properly but I think they were CAP (capstan) speed trimpots. Look for a BII and BIII label. If you adjust them while a tape is running you should be able to see results of your action on TV screen.

Awh com'on poor lil Ed...milk yar mom...(gigle)

ouwww my dear Timmy... What's happenned...

Whuppss, did I touch a nerver here. Seems like it's still in high...

Olive, I don't know what's in it for you weaving these idiotic, informationally value-less and verbally retarded tales, especially since I'm evidently the only one here stupid enough to read them. But if it fulfills your theory on catharsis, what the hell. It doesn't cost me anything. But I really wish you would look into the thrills and rewards of stamp collecting.

Now yar trying to bait us over betamaxes, it just won't work Plank! LOL

Re SL_HF450, shove it up your big fat lard ars.......chuckle

How could ANYONE who considers themselves to be a "Betaphile" say this about Ampex consumer tape?

"You can continue to enjoy that classic Betamax technology with these video cassettes from the inventor of the video tape recorder and venerable "Made in the USA" pioneer in audio and video technology. As a long-time Betaphile, I've always found Ampex Betas to have excellent sound and picture (and still superior to VHS!)."

Mind numbing. Unless, of course, an endless hailstorm of dropouts, binding reels and a pile of rust on your reel table fall within your definition of "excellent."

I recently purchased a Sony SL-HF450 Superbeta VCR on eBay, and I need someassistance. On the top of the machine there is a door with some controls underit. Apparently this design has the buttons on the panel push down on a swivelUNDERNEATH the circuit board to work contacts on the underside of the board.Unfortunately, the parts of the panel which reach under and hold on thisswivelpart have broken off, so the controls do not work. According to what Sony toldmy local VCR tech, this part is no longer available. Anybody here who mighthave access to such a part? Thanks way in advance.

His BP is up now....chuckle

What's t matter Plank, can't get along with me huh...what's the reddish color on your face...what's the tension ??? 300 or myabe 400..

You're a nut case. There's something clinically wrong with you beyond your obvious social and intellectual deficiencies.

Dear Admin, don't give him hardtime...he'd kill his mom for that.,,LOL

Ha Ha you die of heart attack soon or commit suicide, sorry to frustrate you so, poor little boy!

We knew the plank is.

Look who can formulate coherent sentences. Now look who cannot.

Look at who can communicate useful, on topic information on this board. Now look at who is just a gadfly, spewing bile and adding nothing to the topic, the hobby or civilized ineraction.

But by all means, please continue ranting. Better to find you at your computer venting your limitless anger than riding city buses or being anywhere near socialized people.

Most antisocial degenerates don't give much thought to their hypocrisy and hate, and tend apply the standards they could never possibly achieve themselves to others as a form of wishful thinking about how their lives might have been.

I hope that your buffoonish behavior on this board ultimately yields some at least unintended cathartic good to you for the benefit of everyone. But at some point, you are going to need some outside help. That's obvious.

Ed-Beta is a 'plank'

Do you want to tell the world that you are a lowlife loser with nothing better to do than abuse this site? If all you are is a pimple on society’s ass, and all you have to do is spend your life looking at (and then idiotically reporting on this site) what folks buy on “old bay” then all you have to do is sign on using this moniker. At the same time, you can delude your psychotic self that the good folks on this site care. Remember, the only requirement is that you are a no life loser. Be sure to use CAPS liberally while you write your sociopathic text, and then be sure to sign it... thanks in advance.

Well, unfortunately for us normal folks, the psychotic creep is back making idiotic posts under a brilliantly original name. Again, it is plain to see that the idiotic posts are via an AOL proxy server (cache-dtc-ae08.proxy.aol.com), which does not originate in Vermont. Of course, why this doofus is doing this and what this nutcase is trying to prove is beyond all of us, and he is way too cowardly to post under a real name or e-mail address. It’s hard to believe that keeping track of my eBay activity could fill someone’s empty life, but apparently it can.

Ted:Do you want to tell the world that you are a lowlife loser with nothing better to do than abuse this site? If all you are is a pimple on society’s ass, and all you have to do is spend your life looking at (and then idiotically reporting on this site) what folks buy on “old bay” then all you have to do is sign on using this moniker. At the same time, you can delude your psychotic self that the good folks on this site care. Remember, the only requirement is that you are a no life loser. Be sure to use CAPS liberally while you write your sociopathic text, and then be sure to sign it... thanks in advance.

Ed Beta, what are you trying to say. I don't really get it...seems to me that everybody againts you...

Hello.. I'm kinda lost here...

Well, unfortunately for us normal folks, the psychotic creep is back making idiotic posts under a brilliantly original name. Again, it is plain to see that the idiotic posts are via an AOL proxy server (cache-dtc-ae08.proxy.aol.com), which does not originate in Vermont. Of course, why this doofus is doing this and what this nutcase is trying to prove is beyond all of us, and he is way too cowardly to post under a real name or e-mail address. It’s hard to believe that keeping track of my eBay activity could fill someone’s empty life, but apparently it can.

To º¿º

So either you're posting from Mom's basement, or have defaulted to the ISP for those with the intellectual capacity of a doorknob.

I'd go even up on which it is, but I'll lay 10 to 1 that you getting caught using your employer's account to post here is not a risk you ever have to worry about.

we need a logon before posting i think

Ed Beta, go f yourself ya miserable son of a btc!

Ed Beta, kiss yar ugly s

K .Lambert, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

º¿ºKeep your fingers crossed.

Hi BetaphilesIt's great to see this site back to normal...............Kevin

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem. Was recording on my HF 950 the other day on the Sony Pro Xa tape when the machine stopped. Ejected the tape and found that the small black nylon-ish bit of tape that holds the videotape up against the metal roller inside the casing had come loose and fallen into the tape path, one wind/ revolution before passing the heads. A safety feature, l guess...

This is the second time this has happened using the same type of tape, but on another one. I opened up the cassette and peeled the bit of tape off the videotape, which was stuck to it, and it removed a small section of the oxide coating, approx. 2-3 cm. I then re-adhered the bit of tape back in it's proper position, and it seemed to take really well and stay in position.

Will this now small piece of 'bald' videotape cause any damage to the heads when it passes over them? I gently rubbed off any small flaking pieces of oxide that remained with my fingers.

Regards, Craig.

Ed Beta, yar a sonafa BTC!

And stop with the God-whining. The Wahmbulance is for serious emergenies only...

To ED Beta: You can dish it out but you get all butthurt when you hafta take it in the cornhole dont'tcha? Man up Üntermensche.