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DAVID BRUNNER
Monday 27th February 2012
6:31 pm U.K.

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Kevin, I want tell that if the counter only count in a recorded tape means that the video have real time counter?

And for all chat I want tell that yesterday I put to record in the SONY SL-F30 and today when I push play the record is in black and white, but other tape play in color, what component or components are broken?

K Lambert
Monday 27th February 2012
4:42 pm U.K.

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Hi David

From what you have stated, i believe you mean ,why does the C20 not have a real time counter.The ONLY UK Beta models that did were the C9 and HF950. Interestingly too the Sanyo models used a mechanical/electronic method to record the counter pulses(under the right or left spool, depending on whether they had the tape remaining indicator or not).The Sony models (later front loading ones) used the control track pulses to monitor the counter pulses.Hope this clears it up.

Good luck too to the guys selling or looking for NTSC Beta equipment.

.........Kevin

Chris Margrave-Gregory
Monday 27th February 2012
11:11 am U.K.

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Hi I am currently looking for a AMPEX AVR2- 2" machine.

Please let me know if you have any available

Kind RegardsChris

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DAVID BRUNNER
Monday 27th February 2012
12:08 am U.K.

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Hello, I have the SONY SL-C20, when I put a new tape not count the counter, why in this page this video not appears with real time counter?

lifeform
Thursday 23rd February 2012
11:18 pm U.K.

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I have a beta machine for sale it is a zenith video director also includes over 150 tapes. All of the tapes are in holders made for beta tapes. I bought all of this at a auction and have no clue of the value so just make a fair offer. I can send pics through my cell phone call 317-364-0167

JJC
Thursday 23rd February 2012
4:47 pm U.K.

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Hi gang,

Greetings from New Jersey, USA. Very cool spot here devoted to Betamax. I'm a longtime collector and enthusiast.

Was wondering if anyone had any pre-recorded Beta Movies for sale or trade.

Thanks,

Jason

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Thursday 23rd February 2012
5:23 am U.K.

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Gabriel
Wednesday 22nd February 2012
4:38 pm U.K.

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Kevin, Your reply has been completely explanatory. Thanks a lot,

Gabriel

K Lambert
Wednesday 22nd February 2012
12:12 am U.K.

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Hi gabrielThe c9 uses a linear stereo system by splitting in two the normal mono edgetrack recording system.It will still a a slow low fi sound but stereo.The Hi-Fi uses two extra heads to the video disc for the higher quality sound.As the tape to head speed is a lot faster and the sound penetrates the tape deeper and slightly off angle to the video tracks, the sound is of a much higher fidelity.Around 80db compared to the normal vcr sound of around 40db i believe.Certainly a lot better with music than the normal vcr sound.Especially if listening through a high quality Hi-Fi system.

Hope this explains things more for you.

.......Kevin

Gabriel
Tuesday 21st February 2012
8:52 pm U.K.

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Could anyone kindly explain me the difference between the linear stereo system ( SL-C9 ) and the stereo HiFi (HF series)? It seems to be they're quite different by just having a look to the drum assembly.

Regards,

Retronic
Tuesday 21st February 2012
8:36 pm U.K.

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HiI finally got a decent Betamax and it's not working. I couldn't get the scart to work so tried the old RF route. The sound is fine but the video is plain black screen (no signal at all). When I flick on the test signal this is clear- both audio & video.Am I missing something about this particular machine?Is it a frequency issue?My plan is to rip some old tapes to DVD-R and I have a Scart to 2 x BNC & 4 x phono but I guess I need to sort th basics out first.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The machine is an ebay purchase so i have never seen it working.

Noel Higgins
Saturday 18th February 2012
11:38 pm U.K.

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Sorry have not been on the site for a while.

To AMI, who posted back on 3 Feb with the Sony SLC9 that only wants to work in slow motion mode.

That is a problem caused by lack of tracking pulses to the main servo IC on the bottom SS-11 board. I have found this previously to be due to faulty capacitors around the buffer ICs. You will need a service manual and a CRO to track the location where the pulses stop.

The capacitors leak fluid onto the copper tracks and can break the connection. The capacitor and corrosion changes can also effect IC input gate bias conditions. The service manual has a block diagram of the signal path to help you understand the operation and follow the tracking pulses path and to see when lock is lost.

The slow motion mode operation is different in that the normal tracking signal is not expected but instead generated by the slow motion circuitry. Good luck!

regards Noel

K Lambert
Saturday 18th February 2012
1:42 pm U.K.

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Cheers for that Bill.

Looking forward to it :)

......Kevin

Bill
Saturday 18th February 2012
11:52 am U.K.

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Hi Kevin,

I'm preparing a screed about dongles and capture for you. It will be long and somewhat off-topic, so I'll send it to you direct. If it looks like being the longest E-mail in history I might even send you it by snail-mail! At some point I might post a heavily cut down version in case anyone else is interested. I personally think that as well as all its other uses it's a great way to use Beta in a digital environment.

All the best, Bill

Jonny Sausage
Friday 17th February 2012
6:29 pm U.K.

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Hi

I currently have about 4-5 Betamax tapes that I want to archive digitally. I'm not sure which model of machine the tapes were recorded on or the format of the tapes, (beta or super) I was just hoping someone could recommend a suitable (highend) Betamax player for an archiving project. Obviously I want to try and maintain the best possible signal throughout. I read though that the only Betamax players with S-VIdeo outputs are the SL-HF2100 and they are rare. So BNC is my only output? Equally would it be recommended to source a superbetamax deck?

Many Thanks

K Lambert
Wednesday 15th February 2012
5:08 pm U.K.

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Hi Bill

Thanks for the explanation.I have been intrigued for some time about feeding a vcr analogue signal into my pc.These 'dongles' that i keep hearing about are the results good?What sort of spec do you need PC wise for satisfactory results?i take it this is how some vcr's clips are put onto Youtube?

As for our transmitter,we lost the analogue for good on November 11th last year from the Talcneston(sepll) transmitter.

............Kevin

Bill
Wednesday 15th February 2012
12:00 pm U.K.

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Hi Kevin,

I just noticed that I wrote a bit of ungrammatical gobbledegook which might give the impression that I run the Freeview boxes into computer and upscaler rather than the machines themselves! I do in fact run Freeview (and Sky) directly into the computers via a dongle for display or digital recording, but that's a completely different thing. What I'm talking about is Freeview into Betas or VHS or DVR and THEIR output to TV direct or via upscaler. No computers involved!

Apologies, Bill.

Bill
Wednesday 15th February 2012
10:56 am U.K.

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Hi Kevin,

Like you seem to be saying, I too have mixed feelings about the RF tuners on our machines becoming irrelevant because of the digital revolution. After all they ARE fundamental parts, and I do have the instinctive feeling that the machines are very important technological history artifacts as well as working devices, and that as such they should be kept complete and working. There's a bit of a parallel with the TV history enthusiasts who use standards converters - often home made - to keep 405 line or even earlier technology alive.

Having said all that, I agree with you 100% about the excellent results from using digital terrestrial tuners with Beta machines. I've bestowed Freeview "boxes" (don't like the term) on my Beta and S-VHS machines and my aging DVD recorder. None of them cost more than thirty quid. The machine that performs best is my SLHF950 - surprise surprise! I also run them into two computers via video capture dongles. I'm now starting to give them HDMI 1080p upscalers for direct connection to an HD TV. They're rather more expensive, so it'll take a just a bit longer!

Where you are, do you get your reception from Sudbury? If so, is it true that they have already switched off analogue?

All the best, Bill

K Lambert
Wednesday 8th February 2012
1:34 pm U.K.

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Hi Bill:

I must admit to not being too clued up n the tuner side or storage memories.The Sanyo VTC M30 was different from their other Beta's models in that all their range had the tiny thumb wheels that held the frequency as they were placed/pushed in the right position.The M30 was different in that it did have one thumb wheel to tune (unlike Sony's totally digital auto tuners on later models as your HF100 is)but it stored the channels in it's memory that, i can only assume, is stored inside the chip for this purpose.That's why the memory does'nt disappear over time?Whatever system they used after all this time was amazing especially as they still do the job nicely now ( not that the tuner will be used at all anymore sadly).Another thing worthy of mention too is how much BETTER the recordings are using the digital Freeview boxes joined to the phono/BNC connections.They definetely surpass the analogues ones ,which were'nt that bad to start with.

.........................Kevin

Bill
Wednesday 8th February 2012
3:57 am U.K.

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Hi Kevin,

Yes, you've jogged what's left of my memory. My first VCR back around 1982 was a Toshiba Beta, an enormous thing built like a tank. It had these thumb wheels - eight I think. Would they each have controlled variable tuning capacitors or some such thing? Where you do have non-mechanical tuning, it must be VERY light on batteries or my SLHF100 couldn't have kept its tuning for four years of disuse. Is there some sort of similarity to the way a computer handles its CMOS? Have you changed the battery on your computer's motherboard within living memory? Neither have I!!

All the best, Bill

Chris Margrave-Gregory
Tuesday 7th February 2012
11:23 am U.K.

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Hi I am currently looking for a 2" machine that plays back "PAL M"

I believe its a RCA TR600 or a RCA TR70. The 2" machine must play back PAL M, Please let me know if you have anything available to help.

Kind RegardsChris

K Lambert
Monday 6th February 2012
10:25 pm U.K.

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Hi james:

No problem.

The Toshiba V33. I remember that.I had the V31b and picture wise it's great but head wear and struggling in FF and REW notoriously bad.The belts will all need changing, that's why you have that problem..I have a set or two of those.

.......Kevin

Roderick
Monday 6th February 2012
9:42 pm U.K.

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Any chance we could get the posts sorted so that the newest are at the top?Used to be that way until the rebuild of the forum to stop spam.Many thanks

James
Monday 6th February 2012
7:44 pm U.K.

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Thanx for the email Kevin, well it seems i have another to relinquish to the betamax pile up room, lol well maybe not I have a Toshiba V-33B and it works ok when i prompt the drive to take the tape round. So I have to manually move it round then its fine, lol not sure how long i can put up with that though.

K Lambert
Monday 6th February 2012
1:37 pm U.K.

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Hi Bill

No problem.

As for the tuner memories.I know the Sanyo VTC M30 stored it's channels using one thumb wheel over digital (as per later Sony's) to 'tune them in'.I would imagine they utalise a small high capacity long lasting battery either hard wired or ,in later vcr's, a button cell that's easily replaceable.Hope this helps.............Kevin

Bill
Sunday 5th February 2012
12:53 pm U.K.

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Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the courier info. You'll get it very shortly, sorry to muck you about.

Just airing my ignorance yet again with another question generated by my SLHF100 having kept its channel memory for nearly four years of disuse: How DO these machines keep their channel info, long before any high-capacity solid-state non-volatile memory was generally available? I've got a 7" dual standard Panasonic colour TV/monitor dating from 1985 which still works perfectly EXCEPT for having lost its channel memory and refusing to accept anything more. I've now established that it may be due to an ancient expired button battery on the main board. I'm going to replace it and see what happens. Did any Betas ever use such a system? If not, how did they do it?

All the best, Bill

Roderick
Saturday 4th February 2012
8:27 pm U.K.

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The video connectors on Betamax machines are called BNC.Most electronic stores sell BNC - RCA adapters fro a couple of dollars.

DINKINS
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:39 am U.K.

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Keep up the great work!,

FORBES
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:28 am U.K.

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Thank you very much for the best value in the Barter/Trade industry.,

CADWELL
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:17 am U.K.

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Looking for great new deals on trade.,

MORROW
Saturday 4th February 2012
5:06 am U.K.

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Thanks again for providing the information! It was a big help!,

etep70
Saturday 4th February 2012
3:24 am U.K.

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I have just picked up a sony betamax SL-800ME. I didn't get any A/V cords with it and don't know what the type used is called. Trying to find a cord to go from the beta to an RCA. Anyone help with what type of connection in on this model? It kind of looks like a coax connection, but has a tab on the top and bottom of the plug.Thanks for any help I can get.

ami
Friday 3rd February 2012
8:03 pm U.K.

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one more thing... i tested that. I put cassette in and "play lit", player loads tape and there's resistance in head drum while player start playing the tape. Head drum start spinning. While there's no play lit, head drum spins freely without resistance.

Play, record, rewind and forward - also play fast forward stops after few seconds. Only slow play continues longer normally. Hmm, is it easier to sell that player...

ami
Friday 3rd February 2012
7:11 pm U.K.

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i opened the top cover and left head drum spins okay. I can see the picture few seconds. Player worked okay for 20 cassettes but now it started stopping. It stopped few times before those 20 cassettes. Also 'cooling down' seems to help little bit. I tried to clean that hal sensor.

Do you know would this sl-c30 advice help: "Stops in play, record and reverse/forward windDo not confuse this with the above symptoms. The problem in this case is due to lack of 4.43MHz colour sub-carrier reference in the servo circuit. This in turn is normally caused by failure of silicon fuse PS1 on the YC-25 board."

K Lambert
Friday 3rd February 2012
3:57 pm U.K.

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Hi Ami:Sounds like it the 'hall effect' sensor.One way to know for sure.Remove the top cover.Insert a tape,initiate play and then whilst the play light is lit try to turn the disc at the top of the head drum left or right.If you feel resistance only WHEN the PLAY light is lit then it's defenetley the 'hall effect' sensor.Good luck...............Kevin

ami
Friday 3rd February 2012
12:27 pm U.K.

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Hello, I have Sony SL-C9e player and it stops after few seconds. Also same happens when fast rewinding or forwarding. Is this same "hall effect sensor" -problem or would there some easier solution to fix it ?

DAVID BRUNNER
Thursday 2nd February 2012
4:55 pm U.K.

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Noel if I switch off and on or I eject and enter the tape dissapear the problem, but if I pulse pause in play sometimes occurs again

nick kilen
Thursday 2nd February 2012
8:03 am U.K.

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hi everyone came across this site thought its exactly what was looking for i got between 50-75 beta videos. that also ranage for shirly temple to the stooges to superman all in great shape and most in origanal box even. lots of disney and other kid ones, japan anami, along with few other forien (to me at least lol). e-mail me if anyone wants more info, wants to buy some at [email protected] Have a nice day!:-)

Noel Higgins
Thursday 2nd February 2012
2:39 am U.K.

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Interesting how the message got changed. Maybe a spell check thing.

Noel Higgins
Thursday 2nd February 2012
2:37 am U.K.

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David,The problem with your F30 is probably due to the microprocessor that controls the machine seeing a condition which it does not expect and hence locking up. Powering the machine off and on puts it through a startup cycle and if the sensors detect the tape, conditions etc are OK then it will accept control instructions again.

Bill,

I like the Sony machines better because of. How advanced tenor designs were getting away from rubber belts. Whilst they are more complex and plastic becomes hard eventually and can break, oknce these 3GS old machines get a thorough service and the gears that can break are pinned or otherwise strengthened then they are good for many more years. A plus for Sony is that you can still get new HiFi heads whereas Sanyo suppllies ran out in the 90stoshibas are the other belt driven brand but they have reel motor noise and torque issues so I prefer Sanyo over them

Cheers Noel

DAVID BRUNNER
Monday 30th January 2012
4:17 pm U.K.

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K Lambert
Monday 30th January 2012
12:08 pm U.K.

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Hi Bill

I speak as i have found on the ones i've seen.To counter that Sony Beta's are very innovative/complex and perform well.The faults i've mentioned do occur regularly.The broken plastic gears are common and when they break ,the vcr cannot be used.The 'hall effect' was by using glue that really was'nt necessary.

Most of the Sanyo's failings are not to do with it's design or electronics but rubber components that age and get brittle.Having said that, a lot of the Sanyo's now need the resistor to the reel drive upgrading as this counter acts the age to the motor.Keeping the torque nice and strong.

I'm just appreciative that i can sort these issues out ( Many thanks to Noel for his help and advice/parts with some aspects of the Sony issues) and keep the Beta format and users happy.Most are extremely grateful in the UK that this special service for these old classics can still be done.Most 'service agent's don't want to know.Looking forward to getting your HF100. I did wonder if you were still going to send it.

The carrier i use is Interparcel.com (Interparcel Economoy option with UPS).

.......Kevin

Bill
Monday 30th January 2012
11:37 am U.K.

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Hi Kevin,

You seem to have come down a bit hard on Sony. Just to balance that, the SLHF100 I'll be sending you shortly (it hasn't been easy but I've got the box I wanted!) was out of use for the best part of four years because of a room space problem. My 950 took precedence. On firing it up it worked perfectly and has done for around six years before the problem you're going to work your magic on happened. Not only that, it had retained all its stored channels!

I'll mail you when I get it off to you. Can you remind me what carrier you use? I didn't note it and the spammers bumed it off. I've got two other hefty packages to send and it would be convenient to use the same carrier.

All the best, Bill

DAVID BRUNNER
Sunday 29th January 2012
7:18 pm U.K.

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Hello, I have the Sony SL-F30, works well but sometimes when the tape is paused if I press pause again, not play, if I press stop, don't stop, only I can forward and rewind bad little time, after stop automatic, after of eject or stand by works well again

K Lambert
Saturday 28th January 2012
11:10 am U.K.

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Hi Noel

Yes i could'nt agree with you more.I had to do EXACTLY that on the C6 i serviced last year.Luckily the numerous belts i obtained had one of each of the many sizes needed to do this.The tyre just needs a really good clean to make it more grippy and consistent.the light blue coloured caps around the servo board also needed replacing too as it had the common 'servo wobble' to the picture.

Good luck..................Kevinthe guy i did this for tells me it's still working really well

Noel Higgins
Saturday 28th January 2012
7:39 am U.K.

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Mike,

If you have the top off the SONY SLC6 with the front facing you, then on the right hand side of the machine about halfway back you will notice a rubber tyre which drives a nylon wheel to move the load ring. This tyre and the belts that drive it become stretched and loose grip. Also dust/dirt and loss of lubricant on the load ring runners increases the friction on the load ring. A combination cleaning the load ring slide surface, drops of oil on the centre of the guide wheels and replacing the belts & tyre will fix your problems. Its best if you replace all the belts because they all age causing differing issues.

regards Noel (betaheaven.com) - Australia

Vaclav
Friday 27th January 2012
1:53 pm U.K.

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Loading or plaing a record that I have done myself by videorecorder Sony SL- C44PS is without any problems.But if I am playing the same record by videorecorder Sl-T25ME there are horizontal drops out.Playing original video cassette is with out any problems.Could you help me to find the problem?Thanks Vaclav

K Lambert
Tuesday 24th January 2012
8:01 pm U.K.

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Hi Mike:

I have one here with exactly those issues.It may be the load and associated belts need replacing.

...............Kevin

mike
Tuesday 24th January 2012
4:54 pm U.K.

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My Sony C6 takes tape but rejects it shortly afterwards, nothing else happens.Any ideas?

Cheers, Mike.

Fernando Dias
Monday 23rd January 2012
11:12 pm U.K.

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helloFinally found a site dedicated to betamax ... My question is simple I have a Betamax Recorder Sony SL-F30 and I have some tapes to convert to dvd. The reader was working fine but suddenly stopped doing so. When you click play runs for seconds and then stop, as well as rewind. What can I do to solve this problem? I saw this site a solution "Stops few seconds after a review in the rewind modes. Modification: change to 33kohms resistor R2 (panel RD20)" But I do not have the But I do not have the manual of the equipment. Can you help me?

Charlie
Monday 23rd January 2012
2:30 am U.K.

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Brian, Belt kits for your Sanyo VCR 4500 can be purchased from Studio Sound Electronics in Albany, Indiana. There web site is www.studiosoundelectronics.com . The kit for your 4500 is $13.95 . I had a couple 4500s and a 6400 but sold them a few years back. These models along with most Sanyo betas are easier to work on than Sonys but in my opinion don't give as nice a picture.I would say a new belt kit and your 4500 will be rewinding like new. Most of the Sanyo betas only threaded the tape around the heads in the play/record mode so rewind and fast forward are usually very good.Charlie

K Lambert
Saturday 21st January 2012
3:02 pm U.K.

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Hi Jimmy

I've responded via your personal e-mail address.

...................Kevin

Bill
Saturday 21st January 2012
12:18 pm U.K.

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Hi Noel,

I think what you say confirms my feeling. I wouldn't be very surprised if there weren't any SECAM L only Beta machines. My SLHF950ES is late 80s German in origin and proclaimed as pan-European. While it does VHF, the B/G sound carrier frequency and the very slightly different mainland UHF frequencies, it does NOT do any kind of SECAM, let alone SECAM L. Much as I love France I have to concede that they did it pretty wrong in adopting a format which would end up by making them the only country on the planet to use to use it. Some of the former French colonies use SECAM, but with the B/G sound carriers and reverse modulation - TOTALLY incompatible.

For a very long time most if not all VHS machines sold in France were dual standard PAL/SECAM L. As I understand it they coded the SECAM into PAL, recorded that, and then recoded back to SECAM, so dual standard wasn't really a hardship. The former Soviet bloc countries used yet another version of SECAM, even more incompatible. Most of them are moving over to PAL B/G. It's now actually against the law in France to market a SECAM L only TV. Of course there has never been any such thing as SECAM L DVD.

Of course the digital terrestrial and satellite and HD revolutions chuck an ENORMOUS spanner into all the above works. God knows where it's all going to end up! My two year old main TV does HD from a satellite tuner, does digital terrestrial SD on-board but not HD. If I could have waited I could have got terrestrial HD on-board for around the same price. Sod's law!

Despite my dislike of U-tube I have to admit it has quite a lot of very good stuff on the world-wide history of television, systems, standards etc on it. For instance I never knew that in the UK we might well have ended up with 405 line sequential colour in the early 50s! I'll send you some URLS for good stuff in case you're interested. Yes, all right, I admit to having become a bit of a TV history geek in recent years!

All the best, Bill

Jimmy Watson
Friday 20th January 2012
11:56 pm U.K.

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Hi Kev, After some advice, I have a couple of VTC 5000 's Now one of them I got with original reciepts manuals etc but its not taking the tape fastforwarding or rewinding etc.Its in great nick otherwise, I also have a 5000II which is spot on would it be wise for me to take the idler out and put it into the 5000 or would I be best leaving it as it is.Also I have a perfect nick Toshiba beta with remote etc and that is unwinding the tape any advice or any enthusiasts out there who have the patience wanna trade me a worker for the two, I don't really wanna go down the Ebay route.

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Friday 20th January 2012
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martijnv
Friday 20th January 2012
3:22 pm U.K.

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Hi Matt,

Although I've fond memories of the C7 I also remember it to be quite buggy even in it's days. I know we had a repair-man looking at a couple of times at our home and that the buggyness caused my father to buy a new machine (also a Betamax). But I don't really remember what that looked like, I just mostly remember that big brownish machine that recorded all my favourite cartoons. So if I buy one, it has to be a C7 : -) I'll try to find one in working condition, maybe I'll be lucky. If not I'll try to figure out what the second beta machine was ;-)

James Bigger
Thursday 19th January 2012
9:53 pm U.K.

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New to the Betamax board; found it totally by accident. Was an advocate a long time ago but when the war was lost - moved on. IMHO, the ONLY reason Beta lost out was that Sony failed to realize that, in the US, bigger is better and when you could get a longer recording time on the larger VHS tapes, that sealed the deal. Not enough cared that the Beta was higher quality; VHS was good enough. If Sony had simply made a tape carrier that fitted the VHS cartridge....... But that's only my thoughts. Onward.I recently came across 3-4 large boxes of Beta tape stored up in the attic. Without going through it all; as best as I remember - most of it is the 830HG tape; the other most is the 750ES tape. I think all of it is the Sony brand. The 830 tapes were used to archive some favorite TV series (StarTrek TNG, etc) and were recorded once. The 750s were used to 'time-shift' TV programs that I could not watch live, so some have been used more than once but most were used only 1-2 times before I yielded and changed formats (my bad).I have absolutely NO idea what these tapes might be worth but would like to get them to someone who would have a good use for them. I'd like to get a modest value for them and send them off to a better home than my attic. If there is no demand for them, they will probably head to the dump and that would be too bad; they are in such good shape; especially the practically brand new 830HGs.If someone wants them or wants more details about what I have (I will inventory the boxes asap), get in touch. ([email protected])

Jimmy Watson
Thursday 19th January 2012
5:08 pm U.K.

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Hi anyone got any FUJI and AGFA beta tapes for sale used any quantity ?

James
Thursday 19th January 2012
12:43 pm U.K.

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Hi there has anyone any CVC video cassettes or know where I can get some, I recently purchased everything from an old duplication distributors from back in the 80's and the machinery and lots of other gear was in with this lot, also the CVC video but only a handfull of tapes. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Matt
Thursday 19th January 2012
11:54 am U.K.

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Hi Martin

I would imagine that the parts are near impossible to get.

Kev on here repairs beta machines, and he wont touch C5 's or C7 's due to the age and complexity (Hope thats right Kev)

You'd be better off getting one of Kev's refurbished machines. They work like new!

Cheers, Matt

martijnv
Wednesday 18th January 2012
5:40 pm U.K.

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Just bought myself a brand new Sony Betamax ES L 750 tape to start with :-)

martijnv
Wednesday 18th January 2012
5:10 pm U.K.

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Hi Matt,

I've been doing some research and I think you're right that it probably was a C7. I remember that there was a digital indicator for the selected channel and that's on the C7. I've also seen some brownish examples of the C7, so it's more likely that it was a C7 than a C5.

I've seen some silver C7 's for sale in the NL, were those more common than the brown ones? If I buy one that's not 100%, are the still parts available to repair it (I know, it depends on what wrong ;-)?

Martijn

Matt
Tuesday 17th January 2012
4:32 pm U.K.

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Was it a C7 Martin? The big brother model to the C5?

martijnv
Tuesday 17th January 2012
11:48 am U.K.

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Hi everyone, I remember our first betamax VCR like it was yesterday. A couple of days ago I saw it for sale on internet: a Sony SL-C5. I didn't remember the exact type but looking at the photo I remembered every detail and I'm sure that was the one we had (although this one was silver, I remember ours being brown?). I was in doubt if I would buy it(I know for sure my wife would think I'm crazy), and then it was sold to someone else. But the good thing is that I'm sure that I want to buy one now.

Nice site by the way, always fun to see people keeping the good stuff alive :-)

DAVID BRUNNER
Tuesday 17th January 2012
2:54 am U.K.

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Ok noel the betacam tapes run 6 times faster that betamax and the luminance and chrominance are separates

Noel Higgins
Monday 16th January 2012
6:54 pm U.K.

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David,

I am not an expert on video tape composition but I have gleaned the following from various posts over the years.

Betacam tape cases are compatible with domestic machines but their "recorded material" is not because they run 6 times faster. The tape composition is also different. The non-SP oxide types can be used and roughly simulate the top of the range Sony Pro-X tapes used in the SLHF950 superbeta machines.

Betacam SP machines use "metal" tapes (which I assume is still an oxide but perhaps chromium oxide) which I have heard wears standard heads. Some have said they are smoother on the surface, so they shouldn't increase head wear however it is quite logical that record bias is not optimised for this material and therefore recording quality is likely to be poor.

regards Noel

Long Tall Ian
Monday 16th January 2012
5:12 pm U.K.

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Hi

Further to my email above, if anyone is looking to sell a Hi Fi/ Stereo betamax machine in the UK - please let me know. Not technical at all, so please, it needs to be working!! Thanks

DAVID BRUNNER
Monday 16th January 2012
1:26 pm U.K.

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Brian, I is possible that rewind slow because the tape is hard or the belts are soft or the font is low or the drivers of the motor are bad or one or various coils of the motor are open

doc judd
Monday 16th January 2012
9:20 am U.K.

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I am selling my SONY SL HF 100 complete with remote,manual,.and beta tapes approx 105.I live imn Robina qld

Brian Willet
Sunday 15th January 2012
4:01 pm U.K.

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Hi, just found the site. I just bought my 5th betamax player, this is a sanyo betacord vcr4500, this one works sorta of, plays fine rewind is horribly slow. Can I get parts somewhere? Im reading over the basic cleaning guides going to attempt myself. So from what ive seen I would like to replace some basic parts belts etc. Any help would be appreciated. And yes I have 4 other beta players, all but one power up but none wont play at all. This is the first player I actually bought that worked somewhat. thanks

DAVID BRUNNER
Friday 13th January 2012
10:40 pm U.K.

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Ok Noel, What material are the tapes of betacam digital?

Long Tall Ian
Friday 13th January 2012
1:37 pm U.K.

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I've been lurking for a while in my bid to acquire a betamax player to finally transfer over my old betamax tapes, and I just wanted to say thank you, for what is I am sure a labour of love, but nonetheless invaluable site where I have learned so much. I can't ask any technical questions as I don't know what I don't know, but once I have my machine I will no doubt post again. In the meantime you have saved me a fortune from buying some models off of ebay and others which would have been pups I think, so my quest for a quality hifi model goes on, and until I am successful, I say thanks again....

Gabriel
Friday 13th January 2012
1:33 pm U.K.

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Is the Sanyo VTC-5550 a strange model to find? Last december I found one of them and, after trying to find some information about that vcr, it seems to be difficult to get.

Also, I have lots of pictures of betas I have (or had in the past) and would like to share in this site. For example, there are no pictures related to the Sony Sl-C80 here.

Happy New Year!

Noel Higgins
Friday 13th January 2012
10:14 am U.K.

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Betacam tapes can be used as long as they are the normal oxide types. Steer clear of metal type SP tapes.

cheers Noel

DAVID BRUNNER
Friday 13th January 2012
2:44 am U.K.

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Hello, the betacam tapes are compatible with betamax videos?

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 11th January 2012
11:46 pm U.K.

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Bill,

Probably a fair question about what type of SECAM but I have never seen a SECAM tape nor do I have the service manual or operators manual for the machine so I cant tell you more than what's on Palsite.

regards Noel

K Lambert
Wednesday 11th January 2012
2:48 pm U.K.

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Hi Noel,Martin,Bill and the rest of the Beta fan'sHappy New Year too:)Yes i'm still ressurecting the beta's and still enjoying it.Does anyone have acces too the remanufactured front membranes for the sanyo VTC6500. I have just seen a Australian one for sale with one of those new membranes fitted.it really does make the vcr look newer.They are lighter in colour than the origionals too.A shame as i've had so many to work o and in most cases 'saved' the origional membrane from further deterioration and making it more sensitive to operate.But the new one would lift it even further.Peace guys...............Kevin

Bill
Wednesday 11th January 2012
9:07 am U.K.

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Hi Noel,

Is your SL200ME French SECAM L or another variety? It's just out of interest now. At one time I would have been very keen on getting a SECAM L machine for my occasional TVDX activity. Sadly the digital switchover continues apace in France like everywhere else. Of the three transmitters I used to get, the low-power ones at Boulogne and Dunkirk are already switched and I think the high-power one at Caen is to go in the near future. Paris and the rest of Ile de France had gone by last November.

So SECAM L is doomed. It's a pity, I always liked it, particularly for its colour stability and its very good flesh tones.

All the best and a happy new year, Bill

Noel Higgins
Wednesday 11th January 2012
6:11 am U.K.

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Martin,

Thanks again for your efforts. It's a pity that a hobby site requires so much effort.Hi Kevin, keep up the good work. I still get to fix betas from time to time. Just picked up my first SL200ME so I will be taking some pictures for PALSITE once I repair it. It is PAL or SECAM, quite strange really.

cheers Noel

K Lambert
Tuesday 10th January 2012
9:39 pm U.K.

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Hi Guys

Time for a new secure board i think.This just spoils things and goes on and on.2012 a time for more positivity and moving forward.Those who spoil things for others purposely should be left by the wayside.

...............Kevin

Martin
Tuesday 10th January 2012
11:44 am U.K.

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Really heavy spamming has knocked all the valid entries off. Sorry.

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Thursday 5th January 2012
5:21 am U.K.

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Hello. Im just posting on here in hopes of selling off my collection of beta max cassets. All adult xxx in nature. These are master copies with paper work used to duplicate onto vhs and dvd by a adult company now out of business .Also available are VCRs and a Beta Max play. other recording equipment aswell.Any advice would be appreciated.

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J Ru
Monday 26th December 2011
3:20 am U.K.

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hello, is anybody interested in buying a sony SL-T50ME betamax. its fully functional and in good condition with remote and manual.

Roderick
Sunday 25th December 2011
8:19 pm U.K.

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Alex, I guess you are referring to the BNC connectors?Try Jaycar: http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PA3654And to split the mono audio signal: http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PA3560Now you can use the stock standard yellow, red & white RCA cables to connect it to the telly or other recorder.

Alex
Sunday 25th December 2011
7:20 am U.K.

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Hi does anyone know where I can get the required av cords/connection adaptors for a Sanyo VTC-9300? It has the really old-school type that I have not seen on any newer models. I'm in Australia..

antonio
Thursday 22nd December 2011
8:16 pm U.K.

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good morning: I have a sanyo vtc 5000 vide and only plays in white and nero. You Agrdeceria technical information to be able to repair it.Thank you

Gabriel
Wednesday 14th December 2011
11:27 pm U.K.

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Hi everyone,

Does anyone have the alignment tape KR5-2H for Betamax? I see it´s difficult to find and expensive. Maybe it could be possible to get a copy of it so as to perform some tests on my videos. Of course I would pay for it.

Alex
Sunday 11th December 2011
11:14 pm U.K.

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Hi KevinIt does not matter really just because remember a person selling a 950 board on ebay and wondered if they would be the same, from the image they looked similar but not spending £40+ if not 100% sure.Thanks

K Lambert
Sunday 11th December 2011
10:10 pm U.K.

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Hi Alex:

No problem.As for the two boards being compatible.I don't think so.I hav'nt looked at a 950 one for a while so i can't say 100%.

...............Kevin

Alex
Sunday 11th December 2011
7:29 pm U.K.

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HiAlso is the VU board in the hf950 compatible with the hf100 ? Thanks

Alex
Sunday 11th December 2011
7:19 pm U.K.

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Hi, KevinThanks for you postYeah it doesn't really bother me but it would have been nice to have them all working. In the end all the red led's work so their the important ones when recording. Maybe one day i will replace them, its a shame these parts aren't available anymore.

K Lambert
Sunday 11th December 2011
7:09 pm U.K.

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Hi Alex:

Yes i too have a near mint HF100. (luckily for me mine are still all working fine).Sadly those LED level meters are prone to this.The Sony 950 Superbeta can also have failing LED's but i belive the LED's themselves fail,not the control IC.It's usually in groups of three leds at one time on either channel.If ike you say it's at the beginning first three LED's,why not do what i did once.Remove the front panel and mask off the first three LED's over the cover see through appeture and you won't notice it.If they fail at the end it's another matter,you will notice it.It's the control IC that's at fault and sadly also,due to their design, is'nt repairable.The only source for one is from a 'spares' HF100 i'm afraid.

Hope this helps and good luck................Kevin

Alex
Sunday 11th December 2011
6:38 pm U.K.

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Hey, Recently Bought Sony SL-HF100UB and brilliant example, works like brand new, only problem first 3 led's on both right and left channel VU meters, have failed. Does anybody know where this part can be sourced from?Thanks

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Charlie
Saturday 10th December 2011
3:00 pm U.K.

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The STK 5441 is used in ntsc models and the model that Rich gave was a ntsc. But yes that component is very prone to failure. Charlie

Gabriel
Saturday 10th December 2011
2:04 pm U.K.

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Is the STK5441 prone to fail? I have a Sony Beta SL-F90 with full display and erratic behaviour. Does anyone recommend me a supplier for such component?

Noel, do you still have the schematics for the Sanyo M30s PSU? It would be great having it.

Thanks in advance.

Richardson
Saturday 10th December 2011
7:29 am U.K.

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Hi - I live in North Manchester - I've got quite a collection of recorded Betamax tapes - but no player - and I'm trying to find a particular tape which I want to have converted to a DVD for one of my Son's 40th Birthday - unfortunately over the years the tapes have got mixed up - so I need to find a way of getting them viewed so that I can find the right tape - can anybody point me in the right direction to get this done?

Charlie
Thursday 8th December 2011
7:12 pm U.K.

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Rich, The fact that you still have the display function tells me you probably shorted out the voltage regulator. It's STK 5441. Easy to replace -- located in the power supply.

Charlie

RICH SOUCIE
Sunday 4th December 2011
4:23 am U.K.

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hi, i have a sony betamax sl-hfr70, was working fine until i caused a small electrical spark in the power supply section, now unit powers up with full display but cannot operate any functions. did i lock up the processor? how do i reset or reboot ? did i torch the power supply chip, where can i find the voltage power supply out spec's for this unit? any help is much appreciated, rich s.

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