I hate newbies. They are dumb at everything.

_@_¡¡- do allow me to elaboetate...

I received this odd e-mail to-day. It seems Newbie went and used my name in some depression newsgroup and one of the people there went and e-mailed me...

Newsgroups: alt.support.depression

From: "Stan" <[email protected]

To: Ê"Franny Wentzel" <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Sad, Sad, Sad

Hi Franny. Do you know why you are sad?Stan

Franny Wentzel wrote:

>

> Sad.

It's lame enough that you don't have the courage of whatever convictions you have to expose yourself to the same treatment you chose to mete out to other but people on those support sites sure as hell don't need to be dragged into your sick and demented games. Do the world a favour and 'french' kiss a light switch and put yourself out of our misery.

I actually found the posting...

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=hllfmuoebbbv3btegtkr87hmqng79198og%404ax.com&prev=/groups%3Foi%3Ddjq%26as_ugroup%3Dalt.support.depression

Sean,

How did you ever miss this one while you were in HI??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1374831803

I semed to have missed ALL the betas in HI, I spent most of my time "vacationing" and eating LOTS of seafood. I figured I could haul away halfadozen betas from the World's Largest Fleamarket that takes place in the stadium, but, guess what, it was mostly Hawaiin clothes! Some other neat stuff, but not much! Spent an hour or two doing nothing but spending $5 on a laser pointer.... So, I WILL be gon back, and I WILL hit thrift stores and TV shops, and I will do my best to haul away every beta I can! Stuff I don't need will be snagged for sale here at a reasonable rate. I will take ALL I can carry!

Sean

My bro was in the Navy and stationed at Pearl Harbor (of all places!) a fews ago. So, I had him hunt me down some betas whilest on leave. That's where I got my Betamovie 550.

Oh, I think it's time I made a trip there, too! I might pick up some betas -- and a bronzed beach/surfer boy! ;)

nice set,I mean the Sony

I just looked at the archived pages. There was a few posts which benefited betamax a great deal by "Franny", for those of you wet behind the ears, I mean that with great sarcasm.

This used to be such a good resource when it was a PAL site, now its diving into the murky depths, as a few younger collectors are using it as their personal IRC channel. Please move to another chat page you mob. Thats sean jesse franny madness phil and the ever so wonderful dual personality of Andy, no I mean Brenda.

Maybe you collector are the same person that used sean's identity...

Trollomatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that this chat-page can be a place where we can meet and discuss things, tell our "betalive" anecdotes, ask for technical help, show interesting ebay betas, and also talk about other themes which aren't so close to beta but are common to us (or some of us)

I think it's getting near the day this chat-page will have to use password to post messages (with the author's IPs and e-m@ils registered) because the people who are in this site want to have a "peaceful and enjoying chat, with trollomatics away.

Let's protect this site of trollomatics!!!

Oh and if someone wants to use my identity there's a "watermark" that shows that it's me. Have it in mind trollomatics! jejeje

Well I suppose I should be grateful I wasn't caught up in the Troll net...

But let's see who's more a benefit to PALsite...

Someone who posts a few cutesey 'Snail-o-grams' to liven up a chatpage which otherwise would be limited to starchy posts like "I need a Beta - where can I get one?" or "my beta is busted" or "I got this beta stuff for sale" or the "Where can I get that adapter to let me play my Beta tapes on my VHS machine?" - but also makes spare parts and other help available to beta users behind the scenes - even buying a Beta for one user who'd lost theirs recently. When she lost her camera no-one offered her any aid, now did they?

Or someone so snivellingly petty they make posts at a depression support group using someone elses username and E-mail address in order to make trouble for that user. Who offers absolutely nothing but frothing bile, threats and innuendo.

Come to think of it, I remember getting a few snotty e-mails from some whiney Australian 'bloke' that sound a lot like the Troll now infecting this page...

I agree wtih Olive.

Even you trolls don't make sense any more. A while ago you came accusing us of being "Eliteists" and not wanting other people to post, complaining that this was a public forum, and, well, it is, so, now, you call for the removal of members who are productive and interesting, when, to be honest, you spend time here only to put us down, why should you CARE who posts here? It seems we beat you at one game, so now you have come back with another. Either add something funny, helpful, informative, or nice, or you are being nothing more than a degenerate who enjoys seeing the reactions of people he picks on, no better than a 7th grade bully starting food fights. You push any hotbutton you can, go against the flow, no matter what it is, just because you can.

Sean

I like how the "troll" trys to say that I used Brenda's name or vice versa. Amusing. As far as I know *I* make my posts and no one else does. I guess it would take a small minded troll to dredge up that sort of claim.

I'm trying to get a copy of Lynyrd Skynyrd doing 'Freebird' on old grey whistle test the other night.. Any format either audio or video.If you can help, please e-mail me.Any expenses covered of course.ThanksTony

Well, Mr. Troll has it partly right. Andy and I have a few things in common. Our love of Betas, we're both technicians (I only WISH I was known to be one of the best Beta techs in the US), but I am a broadcast engineer (now), and we both do what we can to help others. However, unless someone has invented a transporter when nobody was looking, we are not the same person. We are something like 10,000 miles distant from each other. I live in Korea (see the e-mail?) You can look up my IP if you like, as well... 211.195.69.95 (this one's only good till I reboot, of course, our ADSL does not assign static IP's).

Anyway.. I LIKE the people here. It's nice to see a place where, up to now, was peaceful and friendly.

Take care, all, and stay well. :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1375958376

I don't think so!HAHAHAHAH!

pssst! wanna JVC betamovie?-_@_¼¼[ojvc]=c

I figgured someone might have the answer: What models of Sony Laserdisc plpayers had the digital still frame that would let you do a still frame on CLV discs?

Thanks in advance!

Sean

____________1/4@@1/4_____<www.ebay.com/betamax.html>_______$$$$$$$_________1/4@@@1/4--------------<www.buyitnow.com/cheapbetastuff>;___________1/4@@@@1/4 1/4--<www.eraseyourharddrive.org/diesnail.htm>;1/4@@1/4<www.helpmyhouseisburningdown.com/screwyousnail>;-----1/4@1/4<I think he's screwed>---<There hasn't been this many jokes since the great VHS-Beta Converter Contraversy. - ED

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1374695024

An ED Beta at a good price.

At that price, it is just reaching the outside of what I would call "Good". the 30F has NO tuner, timer, OR remote, and unlike the other, cooler industrials, like the GCS-50, SLO-420, and the whole 3xx series except the 340, it cannot take commone remotes, no 20/33pin interface, no controll L or S, no infrared, just what I think is an RS-422 connection. AND it records ONLY BII.

Sean

Never seen this animal before...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376176846

SL-S120 mono SuperBeta VCR - virtual clone of SL-100

"S" means a southamerican model. That is the only one I have seen. The SL-S600 (Sold in the states) was the other 15th aniversary model to compliment the 2100. For some reason, the 9000 was the 10th anniversary model but that doesn't seem to affect its selling price, while the 2100, being clearly inferior to the 1000, regularly sells for more, dispite being coutnerintuitive, and possibly macrovision-enabled!

Sean

I've seen couple other SL-S "South American" models besides the SLS-600 on E-bay like an SL-S480 and SL-S500. I wonder if some are Mexican Beta bought on vacation or for use by expatriate Americans. I know somebody with an SL-S600 and he reports that it seems to have Macrovision 'issues'...

SL-C7 & C5 parts...

SL-C7 complete head

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1558539929

SL-C5 faade

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1558536949

SL-C7 faade

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1558535935

OK, that was almost funny...

2 snails going head to head for that broken SL-HF900...Snalie and Mrbetamax were bidding against each other so fast in the last 2 minutes of that auction that I couldn't get a bid in edgewise.

LONG LIVE THE SNAILS!

Franny-can you do 2 snails in a death match over a broken Betamax?

What broken Beta? I would like to see the fight!

Sean

Sorry you didn't have any luck at the flea markets in Hawaii, Sean. I had better luck at a flea market today in the Badger State. A Sanyo VCR-4027 Superbeta and VCR-4650 regular Betacord, plus one prerecorded L-370 tape with a Disney Robin Hood cartoon movie, all for a grand total of $15. Both VCR's work beautifully. I confine my Beta search to flea markets, garage sales and secondhand stores because from all you guys have b****ed about Snailing Ebay sounds like one big ripoff fest. I like to get a chance to check out the goods first, plus people who'll sell their Betas at flea markets, garage sales and secondhand stores don't know what they've got their hands on so they're CHEAP! :). Now my Beta collection is as follows: (1)Sony SL-HF600 with original RMT-133 remote, box, instructions and a couple of Sony pamplets that came with it, (1)Sanyo VCR-4030 with original remote, box and instructions, (1)Sanyo VCR-4027, (1)Sanyo VCR-4650, (1)Solidex 829 rewinder, (102)L-750 cassettes of various brands, (5)prerecorded cassettes. How about everybody post your current Beta collection on here, I'd like to hear what Beta equipment all you people-Olive, Franny, Sean, etc are using.

I can see your point entirely.We are not the only people who have success. Thank you for being sensible about this, and not just a big ol' meanie like the troll & pals, so, here is my list:

Sony SL-HF-900 (Out for repairs, Andy's doing them)

Sony SL-HF-600

Sony SL-340 (VERY bad off, going to be scrapped or sent to Andy for whatever he can make of it.

Sony SL-20 w/orriginal remote

Sony SLO-340 (Actually I have two of these, one inoperable and the other from Andy, still at his place, waiting for belts. Will consider offers on the inoperable one.)

Sony GCS-1 w/tripple charger, power supply, 3 batteries, and hardshell case added by previous owner.

Someplace I have a toshiba somethingorother, needs replairs to its loader mech. WIll consider offers on it too.

Sean.

I've worked my way up...Started with an SL-HFR70 and a hi-fi processor (I think it was the 200. ..), went through an SL-HF400, an NEC hifi machine, an SL-HFT7, and now am th eproud owner of an SL-HF1000. I'm looking for a good hi-fi editing deck to go with it, thus my interest in that SL-HF900 that just sold on eBay. I've got one problem, though...I'm cheap as hell. I won't buy a machine unless I get it for a great price. For example-I bought my 1000, in the original box (but no remote) from the original owner for $300 this year. It needed $60 worth of repairs...I still came out pretty good...

back by popular demand...

dueling snailies!

grrrrrr!-_@_<>_@_-grrrrr!___[0****== ] <-dead SL-HF 900

Andy:

Did you get my package yet? Would hate to lose that stuff in the mail. :(

The S stands for south american? did they have pal units? theres an SL-S2000 which is a pal slim line "multi system" (pal/secam) mono superbeta one of the last models made

Sean, the 30F has control l and control s? is there two different models?

just my 2 bobs - the whiny bloke - thank you very much. tsk tsk.

B2

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ boring

ewwwwwwwwwwww! I just tried recording Pearl Harbour from my idiot DVD player on my SL-HF300. Gross! There's rainbow streaks everywhere in BIII and not so many in BI. No matter if hifi is on or off. On the SLS-600, in any mode while Super is on, it only records B/W. With Super off in BIII, it records non-moving horizontial rainbow lines. In BII, the lines get farther apart. Why does Microvision affect my betas? The VeHoS records flawlessly from DVD! But interesting thing is, the SL-2000 will record rainbow-streak free, but if you play back its tape on any of my other betas, you see the streaks (and if you play on SLS-600 the streaks become visible on the SL-2000 afterwards). Another interesting thing, they will record the Y signal off of DVD player (B/W video) with no Macrivisin issues. But I dont want to watch Pearl Harbour in B/W... :(:(:(:( Anyone got a free TBC? :D

o ya.. it seems that Touchstone DVDs are the worst with this Beta-affected-by-idiotvision issue

My beta collection

Sony SLC6AS , works beautifullySanyo 5300 II, plays in black and white

540 original beta movies, 400 off tv recordings (from friend)

Impressive movie collection. :)

To B2: Most South American countries are NTSC, although one or two countries use SECAM (including Venezuela, I believe), and a couple of the countries there use PAL (including Chile, I believe). Sony occasionally sells a model aimed for one market in another market, if it believes there is a profit to be made. The SL-S600 was probably aimed for the South American NTSC market when the decision was made to also sell it in North America because there was still a demand for a NTSC mono beta model in that market in 1990. The same thing was probably also true with the SL-S2000, which was aimed for the South American PAL market when the decision was made to also make it available in the AustralAsia PAL market due to a demand there. The model Sean was talking about is the North American NTSC ED-Beta EDW-30F industrial ED-Beta editor; the model you are probably referring to is the PAL SL-F30 mono beta deck; two entirely different models, as you mentioned. Howard

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1374930272

If I wasn't spread so damn thin, I would bid for this. Maybe someone would like to see what it is?

The EDW-30F has Control L, S, a rear jack 15 odd pin jack for remote. It also can be modified to receive infared remote signals via standard Sony VTR 1,2 . The VCR also has a built in record timer if you utilize the appropriate Sony remote with timer set functions (I.E SL-HF1000 EDV-9500, SL-HF2000, etc) . Its a great unit , and it can record BIII if you get creative (I have done videoinsert over BIII recordings on the EDW-30F successfully) . I'd almost speculate it may be able to straight BIII recording with the right Sony remote , that offers tape speed function. Its a great unit, and has all the features of the 9500 , minus the tuner and remote function. The EDW-30F is definately not a crippled unit. That's all I wanted to say. I use one extensively myself, and its a great unit that goes for well less than the 9300 /9500. Andy

P.S. Brenda , the remote/capstan is here. I am currently looking at the remote haven't quite made what to think of it yet.

Hey all, I have a Sony™ SL-C30 PAL model for sale. I aquired it off an elderly relitive, I swear it was only used for six months, before defecting to the "other format!" It is in it's origonal box, still with the "it's a Sony" stickers all over the machine! Has the remote control and operating manual. Only one asthetic proplem (broken plastic in load mechanism, still works perfectly.) Was serviced before being placed in storage! Anybody willing to offer me some money for this machine, I live in East Anglia, and buyer will pay postage!

Please respond on the board!

Andy

Interesting things happen when the door is closed. Personally, I was appalled by Collector's posting about chatting. I think we've about hit almost everything there is to hit avout betamax. Imean, I could be wrong, but, with all the back archives, we've been able to preserve our beta knowledge for future generations, and besides, when there is a cheap DVD Recorder on the market, where are we going to use our beta's anymore? (Sorry, Hate to say I said so) But personally, being the (PROBABLY) youngest member of the chat page, I know I'll keep beta alive when it's all but gone. Hopefully, others will do their part. THNX- Edward

And now, the final quest. The warehouse.

/----------- | [0***===] | | [0***===] | | [0***===] ] "At last!" _@_

Someone asking for beta collection? I haven't counted lately but I'd estimate that I have about 500 prerecorded tapes picked up from various sources (eBay, video store buyouts, flea markets, Goodwill, givens, etc.). About 350 homemade tapes (roughly 150 of those from DVD's). Got 3 HF300 's (2 black, 1 silver), HF550, HF900, HF750 (2), HF1000, Betamovie 550, SL-2710, SL-5200 (2), SL-2000 w/ camera & tuner, SLO-1800, Pioneer VX-90, NEC something-or-other (broken) & an Aiwa AV-70M.

Sean, what type of deck is that? An MII recorder? The 1st picture is kinda dark.

Franny, I believe she told me she didn't think she would get that one. I am now green with Envy. I would be about as Green as my Buick (It's GREEN) if she wasn't my friend. I will have to hunt for these myself. That VHS deck will take enough out a my wallet that the hunt will have to be put off untill it can be revitalized. THat oculd be in 5 minutes or a week... We shall see. Oh, and, thanks, Franny!

Sean

Madness: It's an SVHS deck, you can just see it on the cassette door. it's NOT a VHS deck like the title says. I don't really have use for an MII deck, if I got an industrail (Actually I have 5 industrials, (3 in the mail), but htey are all Umatics, if I upgrade, it will be, of course, to Betacam. I did something I said I never would, I got a deck with XLR audio conectors, I will have to get adapters. But this way I can free up my much touted SVO-140 for use someplace else where a mono would be better suited, because it is not needed.

Sean

Yep, Franny, that's me... I'm frankly shocked that I won that unit. I will be even more shocked (and broke) if I win a couple of the other units I've got bids in on (especially if they finish at the high end of the bids... YIKES!) Now just have to hope it works, or that Andy can fix it. I don't even know if he's ever seen a multisystem machine like this before. I'm presuming it's only standard Beta format.

Sean:

Thanks for the heads up.. maybe I can get that one and let Andy bring it back to life like he did my own unit.. :)But I won't hold my breath, of course.

You're more than welcome. I didn't post a link or even model number to keep it from being snailed... We've said too much allready... "Say no more" "I can say no more""Say no more" "I can say no more" "Say no more" "I can say no more"..... (referrence to an old beatels film.)

......... Humm. Anyone have any answers as to the Macro-whiny affected SL-HF300? My DVD player is a Mintek, I wonder where I can get a ROM that will make it non-macrovision and region free. I was thinking of swapping its ROM with a ROM from a hard disk (Their chips are the same size and fit exactly the same way) just to see what happened. LOL! i wonder what its screen would pop up with. Hey.. Anyone got a startup disk for an iBook? pleeeeeease?! mine died.. the snailie pallbearers are coming to get it pretty soon if I dont get it booted up. __@_¼¼ [ -- ] ¼¼_@__

I just hope that someone hasn't made it 120V only and then plugged it into 220V. Here in Korea, it's not a problem (wouldn't really be in the states, either) to run anything off either 120V or 220-240V. Our apartment is wired for 220, but I have a separate isolated system wired in here for 120. :)

Well my beta collection is pretty modest...

An SL-2000/TT-2000/HVC-2500 set with the VMC-220A A/V cable and three of the AC-220 power bricks (one is a Zenith clone and one has been modified to power the HVC-2500 camera.

I have the SL-HF 300 and an SL-HF 360 and an SL-5400 that mostly sits under the bed (next to an old Penisonic 4-head I keep for dubbing purposes) and doesn't really see much use. I also have a BMC-220 camera that for the time being is housed in a BMC-110's silver garb... http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a78f28e7/bc/Olive+Garden+of+Earthly+Delights/Silver_BMC-220.jpg?bcUAok9AGgPRa2aM

My collection of prerecorded movies while modest has grown quite a bit and now stands at about 26 titles about equal to what I have in VHS prerecorded titles. Some E-bay purchases yet to be delivered will actually surpass the VHS total...

In total I think I have about 350 individual §eta tapes including prerecorded movies...

Here's an item more interesting for the backstory...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376437599

Zenith SL-2400 clone Beta VCR. Bought it on account of his girlfriend...

Well you read the rest...

I think that is one of the few Zenith VCRs that is not worth the powder to blow it to hell. If my memory serves Zenith deliberately hamstrung it by making it BIII record only!

Sean

Custom color SL-HFT7 for cosmetics reps? Let's see if snails are color blind. At least I have a black one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376471504

Re: Above post. Must click on second picture to see if it matches your decor. BTW this model can play B1s (but only records B-II and B-III)

Tee-hee! A pink SL-HFT7? Yukkies! LOL.. I wonder why Sony never made a clear VTR. I'd like to see an iMac SL-2000... but PLEASE not a tangerine betamie. ___@00 (snailie wide eyed) [BMC]o,)

That's not pink, it's "cranberry"....my SL-HFT7 was mauve......

What in God's name were they thinking?

They matched a series of XBR monitors. The speakers to one (Which, for some reason almost always are sepereated from the unit...) are up now. I think, actually, if you had the appropriate XBR, you wouldn't mind! I got such a good deal on that JVC, I asked VCRGary about it, he said the last one he had went for $600... I am tempted to sell it away to get an SL-HF-750. I will see what it does first and if I like it.

Sean

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376347421I realize that I'm doing some shameless bragging, but I believe someone was wondering about my newly aquired JVC machine. Take a look at this. Not quite a match for the SL-HF-1000 but it has a few more broadcast-type features, something that Beta or Even ED-Beta never ventured into (Although ED beta would have made a bettter broadcast format than 1" "C", I think SOME people used it for that!)

Sean

Hi

I have full Sony service manuals for the SL-3000, TT -3000, HVC-2000 (?) and SL-8000 (I think). But what I want at the moment is sight of a user manual for an SL-F1 and a TT -F1 (although the TT -F1 seems a pretty simple creature ...)

With those model numbers, what country are you in?

Sean

Sean, I'm in the UK. By the way my parents still have the kit that corresponds to the manuals.

Ah, Now I do not know what to do. I will not buy new JVC gear, new RCA Gear, and, now, if I choose to boycot Sony, I don't think there will be anyone left to buy from. There's always Pioneer. Pioneer and Technics.

Guess they will be getting all my bussiness from now on. Of course I will ahve to buy Beta tapes fro Sony... But nothing else.

Sean

Of course I have no qualms about Used Gear, since I am not giving a penny of my money to the company...

My Betamax

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL94/418976/451978/12933758.jpg

WIth a cat!

I thought you had a 950 as well... Am I confused?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1374450465&rd=1I'm on a roll!BUt, strangley enough, I have no DVDs at all. I refuse to use DVD because it HAS macrovision and region codes, which are the stupidest idea I EVER heard of.

The 950 belongs to the family. The SL-F1 is mine.

Oh. Wow! You're lucky enough to have a family that at least appreciates beta. My dad grudginly uses my old SL-20 just to watch the occasianal tape and he doesn't think very highly of beta, claiming he can see no difference. My mother DOES see a difference but doesn't want me to give her anything on beta... Sigh...

Sean

Seems you just can't leave a Beta unattended anywhere....

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a78f28e7/bc/Olive+Garden+of+Earthly+Delights/12933758s.jpg?bcEc3k9AXuKJ17SM

Sean,Hate to tell you this, but Marantz is a division of SuperScope, which is in turn a division of Sony. The long arm of Japan...

Well, there's still Pioneer, and, Uh, let me think... Most of the people at Cambridge Soundworks...

Sean

Service litterature for sale

Upon a little cleanup in my shop I have come across a few manuals I don't need anymore.

SL-2001 Service ManualSL-2700 Adjustment ManualSL-2710 Service Manual + Adjustment manualSL-HFR70 Service ManualSL-HF900 Service Manual

All of these are original manuals, in good shape. They are complete except for the HF900 missing about 1/3 of the front page. Also, the 2710 SM is split in two, but otherwise perfect.

E-mail me if interested.

Charles

UGH! Does anyone else hate VCRGary as much as I do? Ergh~!.. Ever since he stole that VO-9800 away from me. X-( Sean since u seem so chummy with him (:D) maybe you can ask him how low he'll go for a decent Umatic recorder. And darn the luck, I want a TBC just so I can shred whatever is left of Bitchyvision that screws up my 300. Hehe I also wonder if it will clean up VHS video? (Growls) So I guess that 2007 trip to Japan is off now... I won't have any reason to go, and I'll never own a factory-new (not new to me) betamax..

By the way Franny what is a Geheimladen?

Scratch their little eyestalks out!

Does anyone know of a UK repair company who can fix a Sony C20 Betamax machine. The video is fine, it just seems to have lost sound quality/volume. Any advice would be appreciated.

Jesse: Never make an absolute. We've seen NIB Betas before, and we will again. For all eternity, there will be people who buy new items, stash them in closets, and prmptly cack off, forget about them, or other circumstances cause them to be left there for someone else to find and put on Ebay. DO NOT get your hopes up, but ther is a SLIM chance that I will have a TBC to sell you. We will see how it goes. The story is this. I bid on one on Ebay, and then promptly found one with a BIN of $50. Of course I snagged it, and now, I am still winning the other one. If I win it, it will go up for sale here, most like under $100.

So I will let you know what happens.

Sean

Where would be the best place to look for an instruction manual to my new VCR-4027 and 4650? Does Sanyo still print copies of them? The clock setting and timer record setting was easy enough to figure out, but I can't get those infernal preset controls to work. My 4030 has one dial that you turn to fine tune in the channels (after selecting VL, VHF or UHF with the slider switch)and then you just press MEMORY to set the channel to one of the preset buttons, but both the 4027 and 4650 have instead a little teensy dial, button and knob set for each of the 12 preset channels and I can't figure them out. Playback on both units of tapes recorded by my 4030 and HF600 is great, haven't used the new ones to record anything yet because of the channel problem. The 4650, my first regular Beta, plays Superbeta tapes quite well, with only a slight amount of increased noise. Which brings me to my next question: Can a Superbeta unit with X1 playback (like my HF600) play tapes recorded in B-1s SHB (like by an HF1000 or 2100)if I left the Superbeta swith on? It seems that it should, since the difference between 5.6MHz Superbeta and 6.0MHz SHB is less than that between 4.8 MHz regular beta and 5.6 Superbeta, and Superbeta tapes lookedfine on the regular Beta, but Sony has done some strange things to their machines before.

Hi Simon, I write murder mysteries set in the '80's. (You can check out more about me and my books on my website http://www.barbaraseranella.com if you have a mind to)I'm working on my 7th book. It's set in LA in October of 1985. My plot is

Hi Simon, I write murder mysteries set in the '80's. (You can check out more about me and my books on my website http://www.barbaraseranella.com if you have a mind to)I'm working on my 7th book. It's set in LA in October of 1985. My plot is centered around a missing kid, a ring of burglars, and a coveted beta I write murder mysteries set in the '80's. (You can check out more about me and my books on my website http://www.barbaraseranella.com if you have a mind to)I'm working on my 7th book. It's set in LA in October of 1985. My plot is centered around a missing kid, a ring of burglars, and a coveted beta cassette. I was thinking that this cassette in question was the original version of another edited cassette and there is much at stake for the bad guys if the original is made public. I know this is all sort of vague right now. What I need from you is anything you'd like to share with me about how one would go about editing a tape in 1985.Thanks for your help,Barbara Seranella

Sleech.. talk about redundancy.

Jesse, I believe you had said something about a cheap Umatic?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376184439

Here's another one!http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376184471

Knock yourself out!If I didn't have three comming in the mail, I'd be all over these!

Sean

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376284750

Here's the remote.

If you'd rather have a player AND a recorderhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376016141you could substitute this.

If you want to go all out and get an edit controlhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1375679343

I realize this is not Beta but I kinda have Sympathy for Jesse.

Sean

OK, one more for Jesse.

VCRGary can get you a VO-5600 for $100. NOt bad, if I do say so myself.

Sean

Geez, I wish I had easy access to U-Matic tapes... :(

Brenda: Pre-recorder or blank? If you need one, I think I have one to spare. It has material on it but nothing terribly important so you could tape over it.

Sean

Gee, where did the people go....

Have a Sony Betamax SL~ C7 Videocassette Recorder, c/w operating instructions and more than 100 pre-recorded tapes of moviestaken from the TV. Everything has been stored in one of my bedroomsand is in full working order. Worked overseas for a long time andconsequently this unit was seldomly used.Anyone interested in buying all of it!

This is hardly worth 10% of what he is asking!http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376261581Greed knows no bounds

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376329923About the right price for a VHS. not bad if someone wants to get into video.

Sean

New to this board. I have both an sl100 and an sl-hf900 (didn't check the machine at home - just based on pictures). Both misbehave. The 100 blanks out in the winter - the clock stops displaying and the tuner won't retain its memory. The 900 is finicky about loading tapes and some tapes simply don't play partway through, but show a picture on FF. The picture quality on the 900 is also worse than even the VHS I have. I took the 900 in to be cleaned and fixed, but it really isn't much better. Can this be repaired? Could Sony do it at a repair center in Chicago? I see myself transfering my beta tapes to DVD's in the future and I would like the playback to be as good as possible.

Hi there, I'm looking to talk to New York City-area Betamax users for a potential story in New York magazine on Sony's decision to abandon the format. A kind of "Betamax Die-Hards Mourn Death of Their Format—Again" thing. Anyone who'd like to talk, please e-mail me as soon as possible. Thank you.

—Matt

Mmmm! Tasty umatics. They'd be even tastier if I had some $ to buy them... Of course if anyone wants to give me a nice birthday present (this Sunday I'm 17!!! yay) I'd be more than happy to give you my address. :) Well, Sean. It seems you've talked VCRGary into his senses.. Not the outrageous $400 he wanted... but still, $100 stings a bit. And besides, for $80 I want a umatic with top and side panels :P I already have a VP-5000.. Friendliest machine I've ever worked with! It's so smooth and quiet! Awww!!! I gotta go give it a hug.. Be right back.. :D

Actually, Jesse, If I didn't just blow the last of my free-to-use $$$ in any significant amount, I'd spot ya $50. Sorry, though. Ah well. If you wanted a cool Umatic, find the section of most hardware stores that sells sheetmetal, and drill holes in it and screw it to the Umatic. THAT would make for some cool side panels, and they would deflect smallarms fire! Anyhow, on to something beta, anyone wondering why sony's direct access parts center won't show them parts for their betamovies? (or, "betam'ies" as Jesse calls them ;) well, you have to have the "K" on the end of the model number. such as: BMC-220K. that will do it.

Sean

hate to be a dumb A%# amongst the experts, but Id like to throw some questions out to the(beta) world:1) are all the beta formats compatible? i.e. ED & super beta will play regular beta tapes ?? (at "regular" qualities I assume)2) is the "best" way to get hold of a decent beta machine via e-bay? I check u Bid and found nada.3) I read they are stopping production in Japan of beta machines. Since I travel there occasionally, would a new "Japan" machine work in the U.S. (PAL vs. NTSC?)... I am sitting with a broken SL-HF500, and yet to find a local repair shop that will touch it (Stuart, Florida area)... thanks

To Mike: here a quick Boolean that should get you a bumper crop of Betas to bid on...

http://cq-search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&query=%28Beta%2CBetamax%2CBetamovie%2CBetacord%2CBetavision&st=0&category1=1497&Top10=&SortProperty=MetaNewSort

With each new advance in the Beta system (BII& BIII speeds, HiFi, HiBand, ED) Sony usually made sure of 'backward compatiblity' with older tape formats so you could play a 1975 tape on a 1988 ED deck (the SL-8600 notwithstanding). Sony also allowed some cross compatiblity between high-end models like adding BIs playablity to models introduced after BIs models like the SL-HF 750 and SL-HF 1000

The last Japanese betas being made are NTSC units (SL-200D and EDV-9000) but there are differences in the Japanese broadcast and power system that require modification to use in the US. If you want someone to look at your beta, Andy Sanchez is known in these parts as the best Beta repairperson around. From the PAL site directory ( http://www.palsite.com/directory.html#usa )

Andy Sanchez Andy's Repair 2308 Haddon Ave, Modesto CA 95354. E-mail: [email protected] Tel: (209) 527-3493 Andy is often able to source hard to find parts (used in most cases).

There are other East Coast beta repair persons listed...

SL-eech... _@_°°[oo]={ snailie with betacam. Well guess what everyone.. I scored an internship at KMOL! Yay! I go for orientation tomorrow. Hopefully I stay on.. And I find a few dusty VO-9600s in the broom closet - maybe even a sad lonely BVU-800. (Hey kid u want those.. we have no use for them!). :D I guess Betamies need love and nurturing so they can grow into a Betacam. :)

__@_¼¼ but I'll be the sports snalie... They had too many in News so they stuk me on sports.

You could really luck out. Don't forget the EDW-30F and company were called the "Sports system" Dream a little dream, as the phrase was, immagine a pair of EDW-30F's and remotes, an ED-cam, and a box of tapes! Mm, what a thing!

Sean

Jesse on his first day...

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a78f28e7/bc/Goofy+Olive+stuff/BETACAMPEX.jpg?bcWgRl9AxIPWgL9Q