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I sent your remote today. Congrats on figuring out a song I thought no-one would get. If anyone has ever worke dwith motorola computers I would appreciate an Email.
Sean
I don't even bother listening to radio anymore and when I did it was the 'college' stations which I hear the evil minions of the corporate world have finally started sleeching onto for blandification...
Look what they did to so called 'country' music... might as well be mall Muzak cuz I can't figure out what country, country music is from....
You WILL listen to Tit-ney Spears and Alan Jerk-son and like it!
Britney Snails -> _@@_v - i'm a s-s-snaaaaaaiiil for you...
Regarding the PCM thingie, I'm not familiar w/ the model you mention, but usually the "video" I/O's from the PCM unit go to their respective opposite video jacks on the beta deck. Then you set the input switch on the beta to pcm or line/pcm (or whatever). All you'd be recording here is black & white pixels. I have the PCM -F1 unit myself and it works great (I'm using one of the SL-5200's right now). The analog audio outputs go to your stereo or whatever.
I tried that configuration but to no avail. It didn't help that Sony didn't label the 4 RCA jacks with an IN or OUT designation but with a 1 2 3 4. I couldn't even monitor the A/V line going in or out to know which hookup was right.
PCM2500B for sale - only $50 and shipping.
how about a Wards deferred payment plan? :) Can I get an account with you? You KNOW it will be put to good use here :)
Maybe you could put in on your 'Sleech-mere' account...
I deffinately agree with many of the recent remarks about the current crop of radio stations out there. Clear Channel (Clear about what?) andInfinity have pretty much sewed up most of the major radio stations inthis country; which is a pretty piss poor situation. However, there area number of independent and user supported radio stations out there; andI would strongly urge all of you to support them. If not monetarily, atleast let them know someone is listening and enjoying the programs.
I dunno, I listen to a few radio stations and realy don;t care about much else. I don;t listen to talk, or even have AM on at all (IN fact, I'd the only way I could be happier with my new car radio I'm getting on friday is if it didn't have AM!
Sean
[email protected],spamslam
I've been plagerized!
From an E-bay auction
http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_916837a2c00f4c791cf503fe51286f28/i-1.JPG
The real piccy
http://uk.geocities.com/dasimperator/my_sl-2000_vcr.jpg
Thievery is the sincerest form of flattery I guess...
I call dibs on that VCR by the way. I'd love to win a auction using my piccy to sell...
And don't think I'm complaining. I've become a reference source now...
Wonder when my piccy start showing up on Ebay auctions. FUnny that MOnkey wards and leechmere are both out of bussiness.
Sean
Got my NEC ßetaMovie last night.. aside from the battery being apparently deceased.. it's a strange beast to say the least. Absolutely NO playback controls whatsoever, not even a FF/RW.. it senses the need for power by sensing a tape that still has the record knockout intact. It will not turn on at all otherwise. It has an SLR style viewfinder, where you actually see what is coming through the zoom lens. There is no electronic viewfinder. I don't have a power supply (9.6V, likely around 2 Amp) large enough to properly test the camera.. guess I'll have to find one somewhere, or make one. And/or find a couple NP-11's for it.
Howard, I had the same "congealed" belt on my Toshy V-M42 when I got it, mind you I was able to get the deck, remote, manual, and 25 tapes for $5.00 instead of the $50 they wanted. I acted kinda dumb about the problem and they said $5.00. But I had a belt laying around from my days as a vhs repair guy. Boy do I miss the days when vhs's weren't disposable.
Dave A. Then too, years ago the airwaves weren't as polluted as today. Mainly noticeable when driving around. The one CC station I listen to is about 35 miles away (as the crows fly) ((mainly listen to it going to work, about 20 more miles north of its locale)) and about 2 months ago they increased their power by 50% to 75% and I can't tell the dif. It's like AM radio; reception depends on the weather and which way the front is moving in from, and time of day. But from the same area there is a locally owned stationed that I listen to more, but the power isn't as good as the others in the area so I don't get to listen to it unless I go south towards that city, or stay home. Nice station, every Sat. from 6PM 'til 6AM Sun. is just Blues. 2 hours of canned stuff and 10 hours of local, regional, and where ever else. Thanx for the address.
Brenda, no doubt you are un-familiar with Betamovies. All you get to do is record. IIRC your unit is similar to the BMC 220, which means you have the great feature of Auto Focus; big step over the BMC 110. As for the battery, I don't recall where you live but here in central Wisc., I took a couple of NP-11's to a place called Batterys Plus and had them rebuilt for $35.00 each. The bats are 9.6 Volt 1000 mil amp. Bat Plus only had 1300 ma as there lowest which is good because it gives a little more record time. If I would've afforded more dough I could've had (IIRC) 2400 ma, lotsa record time. Gee if ida known you were looking for a Betamoo I'd 'ave sold you my Frankenmovie; BMC 550 and VRC 500 made to look and work good. Altho the Frankenmovie does need the lens replaced but comes with a parts 'movie and a 3 battery charger. Oh well. I actually referred to my Frankenmovie as a BMRC 5550 super super Betamovie.
Later. Pepse.
Wow Brenda, you never knew that Betamies were Record-Only? That's one of the little 'charming' aspects of Sony design. Did you happen to notice they also load VHS-style around a pint-sized VHS-style head drum with only one head tip imbedded in the upper drum? A wonder of miniaturization (for 1984 at least) Sony left out all circuitry unneccessary to the needs of recording which supposedly enhances picture quality. Even when VHS was offering full sized camcorders with full playback capability by 1984/5 Sony stuck with record only models through to the BMC-1000K BIs recorder. I guess since they were coming out with 8mm camcorders they figured Betamovie as a product 'afterthought'.
Your NEC Betamovie is a Sony OEM'ed clone of the BMC-220 by the way with only modest changes to suit the NEC product line. I guess Sony was so desparate to keep Beta licensees from defecting to the other format that they offered to make Betamies for everyone...
Or they were too greedy to allow other Beta companies to make a superior product in Beta than Sony - keep your friends close, your enemies closer...
You'll probably want to have that battery rebuilt. I imagine in Korea they have some little ma & pa outfit that can do that at dirt-cheap prices. Sorta like in M.A.S.H. where that push cart man makes a vascular clamp for Hawkeye with the slogan "Over hill, over dale. Korean clamp will never fail..." engraved on it, that works better than what Army corps of engineer could slap together...
You might've seen that episode...
I've just seen an advert in the UK for a Sony SLF250B beta machine. This model is not on the list of machines on the Beta PAL website. Does anyone know anything about it and any underlying problems with it, spares availablity etc.
Pepse:
How much would you be wanting for Frankenßetamovie? Send me an e-mail... I just hope I'll be able to get the NEC going. Thanks to you and Olive for the info. It doesn't bother me that it has not playback function, but not being able to rewind or fast forward with it is a bit of a pain.. I guess that Sony figured that we must be professionals that never make mistakes.. *gggg*
Wow, Brenda. LOL, I'm surprised at you! But then again I can't laugh at you as I found out the same thing when i got mine. Yes, I have both a Sleechmere and Wards credit account (at least only in memory) that I can put that hifi processor on.. :)
Have you seen the actual unit Adrian? Perhaps it was an SL-F25 that someone mistakenly added a 0 to in the advert...
The reason that Sony made Betamovies record only is that their marketing people (who at times were a bit slow of mind) decided that the betamovie was to be marketed towrds the people who were using Super 8 film cameras which at the time cost about $5 for a 3 minute roll of film which you then sent in for developing for another $2 and it took a couple days to come back to you. Thu the Beta movie had 3 hours of recording for about $10 a tape and you could bring home your movies and watch them right away on your TV not having to set up a movie projector and screen (which were also expensive to run i had one and the light bulbs cost $15 and lasted between 15 and 20 hours before going poof!). They somewhat missed the beat when VHS came out with record and playback units and figured those were features no one wanted.
hello, i wonder if someone can help me do you know if the Sony UVW-1800is ntsc conpatible. Andy other information on this is more than greatful.
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_@_¼¼ - well there's an irony. i just got 'snailed' in an auction for ceramic snails...
-@-1/4 1/4, gotta laugh, 'cause real snailies gotta have their icons ya know.
Brenda, I'll email you later tonite as I'm heading out the door to work.
Later. Pepse.
I think Adrian's referring to that late betamax only released in the UK the SL-F25UB
http://www.palsite.info/slf25ovi.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1383351792
I'll fit it on to an SL-HF77 and I'll ask SOny to let me see the "service manual for the PAL ED-bet prototype" and make a clone of it.
If would ever be possible.
To Andy: The Sony UVW-1800 Betacam SP editor is, in fact, an NTSC editingVCR. I should know, as we have one here in our studios. If you need anymore information, e-mail me directly.
Yeesh, how the hell many "Andy"'s do we have on this page??? Anyway, I remember hearing that cerain Betacam machines could play betamax, maybe, but I am certain this was just from an Ebay ad, and was probbaly from someone who didn't know any better.
Sean
_@_¼¼ - Got $400 bux?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1383752512
Ultra-sleechable SL-HF 2100 with the remote and manual - ultra-measly $400 BIN
Pulling out those 5-gallon spring-water bottles full of pennies...just might have it! :)
Good luck, I would be glad to see someone from this page get it.
Sean
Someone got it... who was that???
Sean
Well everyone... Take a look at these!! http://www.geocities.com/latinopikachu/editbay.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/latinopikachu/newsroom.jpg http://www.geocities.com/latinopikachu/anchor2.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/latinopikachu/anchors1.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/latinopikachu/amctv.jpg:) can anyone tell me what kind of VTR that is in the bottom of my stack? :P
olive,who let the snails out!woof!woof!i mean sleech!sleech!
fer some reason geo-whinies doesnt let you see it if u click on the link. you have to type it in your browser...!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1382048137&rd=1
SLEECH! MINE! HAHAHAH! these are nice cameras, from what I hear.
Sean
Uh Jesse....
I think you have an 'infestation' problem....
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a78f28e7/bc/Goofy+Olive+stuff/amc_tv.jpg?bcrVJu9ADQRAhv9F
Better get the salt!
ROTFLMAO!!!
But wouldn't that be "ßeta get the salt"?
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don't mess with bigass texas snails!
and i did manage to sleech a few ceramic friends http://home.attbi.com/~boelljan/snails.jpg
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will look nice guarding my §etas...
To Jesse Alonzo: Looks like the bottom video machine is an old Sony Type5 U-Matic Player. Possibly a VO-5000 if my memory is correct.
To All: I have a box of new and never used Sony remote controls that camewith the dozen plus Sony commercial duplicators we've been using here atmy studio. Most of them have not only a full compliment of normal functions, but also a jog/shuttle dial as well. I'm going to test them with my two SuperBetas and see how they work. If they control my twoSony Betas, I will be willing to sell them for a modest price to the "remoteless" among us. The models I have appear to be RMT-V676B andRMT-V121C.
I'll let the more "remote-literate" among the group answer for me, but if one of those two will do a passable job with my SL-HF1000, I'll take one...
Anyone?
Sean, there's me, Sanchez, and this McLintock fellow.Cheers, Andy W.
well ACCOURSE it's a VP-5000. And it's mine! alllll mine! I know how to work a u-matique! lOL.. friendly old beast!
Hello, all you MAC users... among the free comuters at my school are some MAC's, oen is a power PC and there are a bunch of MAC classics and other ones in that box, that are old... Should I take one??? Saw one of those nasty MAC commercials where they dis' windows, and that reminded me. So, whad'ya say? WOrth my time? also, there is a little box i have, it has a cord with an 8-pin plug on one end and two 3-pin plugs on the box. So what is that? will I need it or do one of you?
Thanks!Sean
Sean the little box with the 8 pins and 3 pin is an Appletalk connector. Appletalk was Apples built-in networking system/software (which actually FUNCTIONS). Appletalk's eas of use and setup is why most schools opted for Macs instead of marginally useful Windows NT networks (or not-works). If you see a Colour Classic or Mac TV in and amongst the goodies by all means wrap an eyestalk or two around that one... _@_<_(]--[mac]
Obviously the newer the compys the more useful they'll be but you can still get by with even an old 68030-chipped B/W Classic or Performa.
Hell, I can get a popwer PC with internal and external CD rom, you bet I am doing it! a MAC has little use to me but for free, I may as well, just to have interchange with people with MACs! I'll get all that stuff tomorrow!
Sean
_@_<_(] <-tapping keys with eyestalks...
And a Power PC will run just about everything but the stuff specifiacally geared for G3/G4 chips. With enough RAM (128 MB) you can run OS9.1 and a goodly suite of proggies. If that Power PC is the right model you can even swap processors to G3/G4 ( goto http://www.sonnettech.com/ )
Let's see if it works first Franny. I'll see tomorrow, and let you know. I'm glad to have you for a reasource! Thanks!
Sean
Macintoshes are the §etamax of the computer world - only Apple stayed true to their cause and didn't try to go VHS - switch to PC and they still have enough users to justify creating new Macs. Sony on the other hand chickened out just as the ED format was introduced and started releasing VHS decks. Who can say what would've happened if Sony held it's course and perhaps priced ED Beta insanely low to gain market share and a user base or even put out an 8mm/Beta combo VCR...
I;m not sure... but I'll have one. Ill be able to read MAC discs and such. I really don't have much use for it, but now, say, if you want to send me files or discs, I can use it.
Sean
If you want an excellent Graphics Proggie http://www.lemkesoft.de/ has the definitive Graphics shareware programme for the Macintosh this side of Photoshop. It's only unpaid shareware restriction is that it wait 5 seconds or so before opening and I think it's fee is $35 US with unlimited updates.
<----- Would love to sleech a Mac.. 'specially a color one.... ;)
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just 'sleeched' that SL-2000/TT-2000 that was using one of my own pictures to advertize it. $35 with shipping to be figured...
Nothing I enjoy more than irony...
Well a Beta VCR...
Brenda, if I can sleech a color classic or some such for you, it's a done deal. but the power PC is MINE!!!!!! Never though I'd own a MAC, but, for graphics, they can't be beat! I still have my complaints against them, but, hell, I shouldn't let that keep me from taking advantage of some free products!
Sean
DasImperitor:
Good on you. Hope it's in good shape.. :)
Sean:
Would never think of trying to sleech the biggie from you.. a color classic would be great. BTW.. you know you can get a Windoze emulator for most Mac OS's..
Yikes... my ISP must be Xerox... *gggg*
Sean, don't fall for the first Windoze emulator you hear of. They prey upon limited knowledge of the consumer (sorta like certain gastropods).
They'll sell their own mother on eBay. The blood suckers.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2055532329
Hey,Brenda,did you receive the pal video I posted yet>?
Not yet Colin.. our mail can be very slow.. especially international.. could take months.
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[mail]_@_¼¼[:] - hmm this postcard message is interesting
hmmmmm -_@_¼¼[up->]¼¼_@_ - i think there's a §eta in this one...
die! boss die![mail]_@_¼¼¦=-<<< ¼o¼_@_
grrrrrr!! LOL.. Any Mac goodies left for me?
Did anyone see the photos of me with the anchors? :) Hee hee hee!
Maybe this week I'll get a pic of me with Betamie Sr. They were hiding last week, I think they're camera shy :):). Although.. I did get that pic with SL-HF300 Sr. If theres no Mac goodies left I'll be satisfied with a SCSI hard disk... not the 40mb Conners either! What about the Workgroup Server?
Brenda, Franny, and Jesse: Sleeched some MACs for our pleasure. For me, there is a Macintosh IIci, and Brenda has first pick of a Classic II or a Macintosh SE. Jesse, you can have what's left, or, if Brenda take the Classic II, I can get you another one if you want it.
Sean
Help! Franny! Where do I plug th ekeyboard and mouse on the MAC??? I'm confused!
Thansk!Sean
Sean,
E-mail me about the Macs.. with basics of each of the two types.. :)
Jesse:
What size of SCSI you looking for?? We have several that run up to 4 GB, IIRC..
Brenda: I don't know a damn thing about them. I'll power them up and see if they are color. I have one set of keyboard and mouse for one ofhte em, and one for me. I'll get another one tomorrow.
Sean
Which Mac are you trying to plug in? The SE has two ADB ports in the back left so you can plug the maus and keyboard next to each other. (For fun I once hooked two mice up and played dueling mausies for the minute or so it was amusing) In the IIci and later Macs you had to plug the maus into the keyboard and the keyboard into the ADB port.
If you see the two serial ports (the phone and printer symbols) you should note that while you can hook a printer or phone in the opposite plug, Apple optimised each so they work best 'their' way.
And the little button with the arrow [ < ] on top of the keyboard is a Power-on button for models that don't have a direct On/Off toggle switch (like the IIci). It won't work for an SE which has an on/off switch. The SE also had a 'programmer's switch' - a oddly shaped plastic affair - that attached to the side and gave you outside access to an interrupt and reset button installed on the board inside. Apple made the switch available so that programmers could reboot and do troubleshooting but 'recommended' that ordinary users not actually install the switch. Apple seems to have been in permanant denial about the fallibility of their software and have consistantly made poor provisions for the need to shut down or reboot after a system crash. They refuse to put in a simple reset button and the one option for a crash reboot (COMMAND + OPTION + [<]) can only work if the failure hasn't disabled the keyboard controls...
Were they out of Power PC's? A IIci isn't all that bad if you have a lot of older Mac software but you really want a Power PC if you want to do anything Macintosh nowadays...
Howdy. Does anyone here have a timer door for an SL-HF750 they'd part with? It's the door on the right side of the machine that covers the timer controls. Thanks.
OK, the two SL-HF750's finally got here. The one refused to open the Linear Skate tray at all (possibly fuse?) and the other worked fine for a while, but now it thinks there is a tape in it all the time, and it refuses to eject. (It would eject fine earlier.) With the cover off, I see that it thinks it has the tape laced. When eject is pressed, the skate comes half-way out (the same as when one pushes the "Open/Close" button) and everything moves as though it's unlacing the tape, but after a couple seconds it re-laces the phantom tape and it stops. I presume that it's not ejecting because it thinks the tape is not unlacing even though there is no tape. I'd appreciate any help in fixing these problems, as I really like the decks. Thanks in advance.
Aaron:Well, for the one that the drawer won't open, did you check the transport screws? It may sound silly, but it's something to check. They'll be red-colored, and there's two that screw in the bottom and one in the back of the VCR to keep the drawer from opening during shipping. All three store on the back of the machine near the power plug. As for the other one, that could be a variety of problems. Could be a bad sensor (maybe reel sensor), bad switch, something jammed, or even something electronic. Really impossible for me to tell without having it in front of me. Though, if you'd like to sell that one (or both) of the machines for parts, I'd be interested. Hope I could help.
Oh I think those 2 SL-HF 750s are a goner. Better toss them out or better yet send the to the Olive E Thomas home for wayward Betamaxes... ;-)
But seriously, one the Beta refusing to open the door. Did you check to see if the transit screws were removed?
On the one with the 'phantom tape' problem. There's usually a plunger switch on the left side (not the record tab detector) that senses that there's a tape in the machine. If it's bent or set wrong the machine will still thin the tape is installed...
There are also switches (similar to the ones used in mouse buttons) along the loading ring as well. Check to see if they're in proper shape. As they are similar to mouse buttons they can be replaced easily if need be...
Yeah, someone sleeched up all the POwerPCs, but the boxes of junk update regularly, so I may get one yet. There was a little thin MAC but it had no hard disc. The IIci is missing its top. I'm going to boot it soon, I'll let you guys know! I know have three monitors on my desk, the MAC, the PC, and the VT-101 soon to be connected to a mainframe in the basement!
Sean
_@_v eee hee hee hee! great snailie minds think alike again!
Hey! how do I turn this damnable thing on!!! there is no power switch!!!
Sean
Huh! Leave it to apple to ommit the power switch! not on the back or front, maybe on the missing top of the unit?
Sean
Yeah, the transit screws are removed. The motor's not trying at all, like it's getting no juice. :- It's definitely not the record safety sensor on the other one. When I hit record, it tries to eject, which I would assume means that it thinks that the tape in it is copy-protected. I wonder what it would take to frankenstein the two and build a single, working SL-HF750 out of the two... Guess I know what my weekend project is. Too bad all my tools are at home instead of here at the dorms. Thanks guys. Again, any advice appreciated. If all else fails, know any good repair shops around Pittsburgh, PA or Toledo, OH (college and home, respectively).
Franny??? Olive??? I'm serious, I can't find the power switch for the MAC! Really, don't know how to turn it on! This is embarrasing, because MACs are supposed to be easy to use! Help! The VT-101 is laughing at me, because I am so stupid.
Sean
Allright, I found it, but the display won't do anything now, I think something is wrong...
Sean
No, the display light just comes on Amber and it does nothing. Is it the monitor or the MAC???
Sean
Aaaron, well, I've been known to combine two non-working one's into a good working one more than a few times :) If you do that, and have an extra timer door, I'll offer you $20 plus shipping for it.
As far as I can see, the MAC is dead, or the monitor is. WHo wants a Macintosh IIci?????? Free to a good home!
Sean
Sean, there's a few things you should try. Of course, I'm sure you double checked the monitor connections. Also, you should open it up and reseat the memory if it's not soldered on the board and check all other connections in there. One other thing to try is to find the PRAM-reset switch inside the computer. It'll just be a tiny button somewhere on the board, dunno what it'd be labeled. Sometimes the PRAM gets corrupted and causes the no monitor problems on macs. Also, if the PRAM battery is low then it can cause that problem too.
Oh, and do you get a chime on power up?
The MAC seems to wrk, but I think it's the display that's dead! otherwise it'd all go out in the trashcan or the skip down the street!
Sean
Oy, talk about not saying enough in one message. Here's a map of the board with the reset switch labled: http://www.shobaffum.com/iici/images/innards2.jpg
Don't bother. The Classic II works, and there are dozens more where it come from, so I'll abandon the IIci, and take another one. No tone from the IIci but the CLassic II works but seems to be in Japanese or something, so, Brenda gets it by default.. Unless she wants the SE.
Sean
Gawd, "Welcome to Macintosh" are words I haven't seen in a Looooooooooong time!!! not since the 8th grade when we had PowerPCs!!!
Sean
The Classic II works fine, the SE freezes on bootup. the IIci is a mystery. all free to anyone, Brenda gets first pick, then DasImperator, then Jesse. I can get unlimited Classic IIs.
Sean
The SE just decided to work. IN other news, the SLO-1400 wil lbe replaced soon enough. for now it's off my desk.
Sean
ya, Brenda.. Like a 1 gig or at least an 800 for my bitchy Quadra 660AV. Grrr!! I had wanted to do video capture but NOOO.. Anyways. Sean, try leaving the IIci on for a bit, sometimes the macs with NP-11 PRAM batties take a while remembering who they are. Press reset a few times after a couple minutes if it still hasnt come on. That usally works for my LCII. Have u checked to see if speaker is connectd? Maybe thats why u didnt hear the chime. Yes.. Those poor 750s. A total loss. Olve and I can share them :)
[ [:)] WELCOME TO HELL!!!]
o ya, I fergot to mention something. If u download Mac Identifier 3 from http://www.macupdate.com you can trick PPC applications into rubning on your non-PPC (you change its gestalt Info, or 'rename' the computer so if I put "Nixdorf Server" into its Identify box, and I clicked "About This Mac" in apple menu, it would say "Nixdorf Server").. But certain things dont work, fer example you cant trick Quicktime MPEG extension into running because MI 3 is a ctrl panel, and QT is an extension. Extesions load before ctl panel... But it works pretty good!
Whoever said "Welcome to hell"... I heard a MAC today called "An 'etch-A-Sketch' you don't have to shake"... Anyway, all of you people with the (wahtever it takes, I'm not sure...) to use a MAC, let me now what you want. I have the IIci, the ClassicII, the SE, and access to a virtually unlimited supply of Classic IIs.
Sean
Jesse,
I found a drive here that should do fine for you. E-mail me your address, and I'll send it to you for the cost of shipping. It's a Seagate ST52160N 2.17GB SCSI2/3.. let me know if that will do OK for you. :)
Brenda, what do you want? I owe you a power cord, a MAC (pick one!) and something else I forget...
Sean
Sean:
RMT-148..
Any of those color Macs? If not, I guess just whatever's the closest to working.
The IIci is color, but needs a monitor. If you can get that, it's yours. I've got a Classic II, and the SE that I think DasImperator wants, so it's his and Jesse, you can have a Classic II or a dozen!
Sean
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