Thanks Roderick, I did look at stanleyson but somehow missed the 60min ones,or my excuse will be they wernt there when i looked!!!Thanks for pointing it out.Regards.MIke.

Ken:

Where are you?

U-matics rock!

What's happened to the Beta Chat Page?????????Ye, U-matic 'rocks'too!...

Regards, Craig.

This is getting very sad!

Did anyone archive these pages before they disappeared?

Or you can find the old posts here:http://www.chatpage.co.uk/umatic/archive.html

Hi all,

I am trying to find the pinouts for the Sony RM440 U-Matic editing control. I've searched half the internet for it, but can't find it. Can anyone help me?

Kind regards, Thom

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If anyone can help please. Im after a SONY SP umatic editing recorderMust be SP, AND BE ABLE TO VIDEO INSERTMany Thanks

Bren,It would probably be helpful if you would let people know where you are. These machines are very heavy and often hard to ship.

Dear Bren,I have about 6 Umatic editing recorders in my workshop, 3 are SP, and are in exellent working order and have no further use for them, If You are in UK, Shipping is 35 POUNDS sterling,

Hi Rodrick, Ill take your advice on board, however Id just like to point out a spelling mistake I think you made on the last post You made.If Im not mistaken Roderick as You have Posted it should be spelt RODICK with the ER left out, As English Language or spelling was never my strong point I apologise for this

Regards........Bren

Hi Roderik.Apologies for the spelling mistake on my last post

Hi. I've got a lot of old u-matic equipment which is being cleared. This includes: Sony VO-5800PS, 5850P, VO-2630, VO-2630, VO-4800PS, RM-580, RM-440, DXC-M3. And lots of tapes.

Is anybody interested? I can deliver in London, or post in the UK for £35. Otherwise it will all have to go to the rubbish dump in the next few weeks (sorry!).

Munsoor

Thanks to the U-Matic PALsite Chatpage!

I found someone to take all the equipment I mentioned above. I didn't know how many people were still using U-Matic equipment - and it surprised me a bit! And I think that everyone will be happy to know the equipment has now found a good home!

Munsoor

Thank you Munsoor. It was very kind of you to drive down to deliver, and really nice to meet you. Nearly all the machines are in good working order. The DXC-M3 camera works perfectly too.

Who can help me to find the service manual for the Sony Umatic 7020? Thanks !

Hi allcan anybody advise me of the best way of transferring u-matic tape contents from my Sony 5630 to computer mpeg format.What would be the best connectors/software programmes to use.

Much obliged if you can help.With thanksPete

Hey, just use a time base corrector and A/D converter and some basic video program like Sony Vegas. I don't know exactly which unit you use but it probably has a composite out which the TBC should accept, if you don't have a TBC just go into the A/D converter (I use a Datavideo DAC200). Let me know if that works.

Hi,i am looking for a player (dont really need record, wont mind it though) capable of hi lo band + sp.i know some models are pal ntsc, so is there a pal ntsc hi lo sp combo model?if not, i wont mind 1 pal 1 ntsc deck. must be in excellent condition, for digitizing aging tapes.Thanks

Hi Edo,In short the answer is no. There are a few machines in the VO-7 series that will play PAL & NTSC, but only low-band. The VO-9800 & 9850 will play low, hi & SP but only in PAL or NTSC depending on the model.

Rod, thanks for the answer. So my best bet would be 2 v9xxx machines? Does these decks have component output? I am transferring many Umatic Masters for archiving on LTO4 tapes, so the deck must be able to give good picture, and handle over 400 drum hours.Any ideas where i might find good, reliable decks (I'm in Israel, so probably would have to 'blindly' ship one over)?

Hi Edo. I don't think there are any U-matic machines with component output, it's all composite. The VO-9*** series do have a 'dub' output, which is basically the same as a S-Video output but you'll have to make up an adaptor as they have different plugs.

The only suggestion I would have to find one in or near Israel is to check with television stations or production houses. Most will have gone over the digital by now and may have some gathering dust in a corner somewhere. A good condition machine shouldn't cost you much more than $400, or at least that is the going rate in Australia ;-)They all show drum hours in the menu so check for those details. When used in a professional environment with good quality tapes, you should get about 1500 hours from the heads.The bigger problem with these ageing machines are the loading mechanisms, make sure the load / unload a tape without too much noise, an indicator it may fail soon.Hope this helps.

Rod, many thanks again.I'll have a look around, but since the TV was government owned back in the umatic days, they have weird regulations and bureaucracy (they would probably have to have a bid for 'purchasing used production equipment' and buyer would have to buy the whole lot or something).Being a person of high technical skill, but no knowledge of the umatic's innards, can the deck be reconditioned 'at home' (i know many of the old betamax vcrs are easily serviced)?how difficult can it be to replace the heads?on the same subject, is there an online site where i can get spares? or is it better to get another deck for parts? can new heads be obtained nowadays?

Hi Edo!

The umatic are quite nice to service - the parts are big and not very cludged inside, there is quite good access to everything. Mechanics are quite obvious and control logics easy to figure out. The drum replacement shouldn't be any problem. The drum itself is a problem. You can buy it, but it will cost more than a secon machine. Or two.

Maciek Szymanski,That what was hoping to hear :)Guess i'll buy a few decks.tx all!

Hi all! Nice to be in a forum where I don't have to justify why I like the look of Tube cameras!

I have access to a high band U-matic PAL SP recorder, but I'm desperately looking for a U-matic camera and power supply. To rent or purchase in London. Does anyone have a camera or know of anywhere I could acquire one? Everything I've found online seems to be NTSC or won't ship out of another country.

Hi Lilah!

You can use any camera with composite output with U-Matic recorder. If you are looking for a tube camera have a look at german e-bay, you will find there few ones, in PAL usually. For example: http://cgi.ebay.de/JVC-Profikamera-KY-1900E_W0QQitemZ180286798741QQihZ008QQcategoryZ21165QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or

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If you are going to use a portapack recorder you will need also a 14-PIN camera cable that allows to control the recorder from camera. For studio use a standard BNC coaxial cable is enough. I've two JVC KY-1900E and as it's not a very good camera as compared to Ikes but in good lighting conditions and with properly adjusted registration it gives quite nice picture, especially the halftone reprodustion is really good. It can use any 12V power supply with 4-PIN XLR cable.

Maciek

The analog video technology has became oblotete. That's fact. But from other hand there are still people like us interested in it - for various reasons. And getting information about this technology becomes harder and harder to find. I've set upa bulletin board at memebot.com related to analog video at:

http://threequarterinch.memebot.com

The idea is to be not restricted to one format an cover also other things like cameras or mixers. I hope it will help to build a comunity of analog video users.

Maciek

Hello, I am trying to locate a BKU-903 tbc board for a BVU-950P. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance.regardsHarrison

Hi

I'm looking for a cheap U-matic player. LO,HI,SP in PAL format, it dossent have to record, but it dossent matter. I will pay for shipment.

Klaus Jensen, Denmark

Hi, brand new in box Sony VO-2630 - any use to anyone?live in London.

I Have a Sony VO-3630 - if anyone wants it then they can have it gratis. I'm in W1 - It had a service with new pinch rollers etc five years back but has not been used since

Hi All,I'm currently disposing of a lot of U-matic recorders / players that I picked up with a job lot I bought...I have the following:VO 5850PBVU 800PVP 5030VO 5800PS

They are untested but have been in storage for some time undisturbed. I'm really looking to cover my costs from this purchase so I'd like £120 for the lot- to be picked up from Milton Keynes...Mail me if you're interested!

Thanks,

Matt

I have a Sony VO-9800 that won't eject a large shell cassette. The tape is threaded around the head. The TC display shows "Error-02". Does anybody know how to manually unthread and eject the tape? Anybody know what the error code means? Thanks in advance.

Hi Joe,Is the 'stand-by' light still on? That would normally indicate that the tape hasn't fully loaded which is why it won't eject.Can you play, wind or rewind the tape?

I haven't unloaded a tape manually for a long time but seem to recall there is a worm-wheel on the right hand side of the loading mechanism. You will have to turn that and extremely slowly things will move.

I have a problem with the dynamic tracking of a BVU-820 recorder. I'am going through the alignment of DT board, does anybody have any ideas of getting rid of the noise on the screen when you use the suttle control when you go frame by frame. We use these U-Matic to record date on the side of the imiage. so if the imiage has a noise in the imiage we lose the data.

I solved the threading and eject problem. I spoke by phone to a professional video service tech at Sony's service center in New Jersey, USA who knew the VO-9800 backwards and forwards. Yes, there is a worm gear attached to a belt driven pulley that moves the threading actuator. In the VO-9800, that worm gear is on the left hand side of the machine. And yes, it takes forever to unthread the tape as it is a gear reduction type setup. After winding all the threading arms back to their initial postions, I wound the tape elevator gear by hand to eject the cassette. I powered the deck up and all error codes had been cleared. The deck has been working for the last three days with no problems.

My name is [email protected]

At School we have a BVU-800 and a BVU-820, we are trying to figure out how to hook them up. We have an edit controller( It's not a sony controller though, can't remember what it is) We also have portable deck, camera and a couple of monitors. We want to set it up to synchronise with our digital audio suite. We have the 9-pin cables and so on, so any advice?

Hi John!

To set up an edit suite you will need following connections:

- Controller to PLAYER with 9-pin RS-232 cable (or 33-pin parallel).

- Controller to RECORDER with 9-pin RS-232 cable (or 33-pin parallel).

- Video from PLAYER out to RECORDER in. Best will be with a 7-pin DUB cable, but a standard BNC composite cable will do. You will have more picture degradation.

- Audio from PLAYER out to RECORDER in with two XLR to XLR cables.

- Video and audio monitor from PLAYER to monitor (special monitor/TV socket).

- Video and audio monitor from RECORDER to monitor (special monitor/TV socket).

You may add some additional eqipment (mixers, titler, video processor etc) in video and audio route between PLAYER and RECORDER. Also sometimes controller may use a reference video signal from PLAYER or RECORDER for synchronisation, especially if used with TBC, but it's not required.

Hi All

I have 2 Sony 5000 series that I am wanting to sell. Problem....I and the machines are in South Africa and I'm guessing that most of you are alsewhere in the world. Anyway one is a VO 5800 PS and the other is a VO 5630. I've never used them. But I picked them from a Director friend who I know only used them for play back and the odd showreel transfer. Any one interested?

Ok, thanks for the info. The controller is a FOR.A EC-740.I think this will work?

SO, if we set it up like that as an edit suite, can I get a timecode and clock out of it somewhere to sync our audio recorder?

John!

In U-Matcis timecode is passed through RS-232 interface. Normally timecode from the player and the recorder and used as reference for controlling the machines. Your EC-740 is a three machine controller. I don't know this particular unit, but generally it's intended for controlling two players and one recorder. If your audio equipment has RS-232 interface and timecode you may use as a secon player for performing audio inserts. There should be also some GPI outputs on the controller. These outputs can be used for controlling other equipment, and switching functions of the machines. The setup generally depends on what you want to do with it.

hi. my u-matic sp sony say: eoor-20. somebody knows this error? this errror was after error-02

thank you

I have some technical service manual U-MaticRM 440, VO 6800PS , VO 5850P/S, VO 5630, VO 4800P/S, DXC 3000P, CMA 8, BVE 600 (operation manual only)If you need it, please contact me

Thanks again!

The audio recorder is a Mackie HDR. It does not have RS422, unfortunately, but it can clock off video. We tried this and it does clock. The HDR does have Midi timecode, so would some sort of converter work?

Also, the edit controller seems unresponsive to anything I press, I don't know whether this is because we haven't hooked it up right, or if it's broken...

John,Something to check on your machines is the remote / local switch. I don't have an 800 handy but they are on the front control panel.

There should be forum for open reel video formats!I am looking for Sony BVH-2000 (PAL) spares or machines (if not too far away)I am in southeast London.

James, try Oldvtrs on Yahoo groups:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oldvtrs

Hi, I am a AV archivist working in an underfunded archive and was wondering if there were any Umatic machines lurking around the London area that could be donated to help view and hopefully transfer hi and lo band Umatic tapes. Cheers, Lydia

hello,

im looking for Sony u-matic Pal and NTSC and SECAM portable recorders and the heavier studio professional units. im located in Brisbane Queensland Australia, and can arrange a courier to pick up from other states where appicable. working or not but i would prefer working. any reasonable offer. please email [email protected]

ThanksClinton

Hi, can anyone help me. I have allways used SVHS domestic kit to edit video.Then after reading the info on this site bought a VO 5850. I was hooked. So i decided to go one better, a VBU 850 (ex bbc). The machine will load a tape and thats it. None of the controls on the front panel do anything. The eject button even does nothing.I have replaced belts ect. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for everyones help!We managed to get the edit stuff working.

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I'm running into transport problems with most of the Ampex 197 BCA-20 U-matic cassettes I'm trying to dub. I just acquired a VP-9000 to replace the VP-7000 I used before. As far as I remember, the VP-7000 could play and rewind these cassettes, but that machine no longer powers up. The VP-9000 plays and rewinds the Eastman KCS-20 cassettes just fine, but the Ampex seem to be a pretty consistent problem. My experience with Ampex "sticky-shed syndrome" on 1/2-inch audio tape makes me wonder if there is a similar problem with these, but I don't see any residue on the guides or heads. I'm also wondering if it's something about the cassette shell that's causing problems, or if the VP-9000 is simply in need of adjustment.

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Anybody seen the cleaners lately?

Just curious.

Would be nice to have this chat page back on topic.

Can't be that hard to monitor this.

Or is it?

Pity

Hello,

Does anyone know of a quick way of identifying if a tape is recorded as low band or hi band?

Thanks,

Chris

The only way is to pop it in a machine, there are no markings on the actual tape, like VHS vs SVHS. If you play the tape in a low-band machine, say a VO5 or 7 series, and the picture is B/W - it'll be a high band tape. Similarly, put the tape in a BVU machine and it plays in B/W, the tape is low band. As far as I know only the VO9 series play both low and high band tapes but I don't recall it actually showing what it is.

Hi - does anyone know the voltage/wattage of the meter bulbs in a Sony VO-5630? Also, somewhere to get them online?

John

Hi John,

Sorry, can't find the details on the 5630 at the moment but they are quite common little globes. If you can check the voltage with a multimeter you can take out some of the guess work, but I would expect them to be either 6V or 12V.Just pop into your local Jaycar or Dick Smith and look for something like this:http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=SL2685&CATID=21&form=CAT&SUBCATID=402They are really cheap so just get a few different ones and see which work best for you. They are not a critical item.Good luck.

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Hi,

Does U-matic sony KCS-20XBR have PAL and NTSC version ?

Hi Lee,Nope, the tape doesn't care. It can be recorded in NTSC, PAL or SECAM for that matter.But once recorded in a specific format, you'll need a similar machine to play it back.

HTH

hi, anyone have a circuit layout of the audio board model AU-21 for a VO-5850P WILL COVER COSTS regards

I have a Sony VO-5800 edit source machine for sale. It is in good working order. Based in Edinburgh.

I need a machine to playback some old Hi and Lo band Umatic tapes - any suggestions as to what model number I'll need?

Anyone got something suitable for sale?

DaveF, your best bet is a VO9800 or VO9850, these will play Hi-band, Low-band and SP.

I have just bought out a very well known warehouse in the uk called World Of Video 2000 I managed to get all their original U-MATIC tapes and all their masters for hundreds of rare movies.There was equipment and machinery galore for everything I havent managed to find the leads yet as ther are cases and cases to go through any idea where I can see what leads I need I have two Sony Umatic machines and more to go through.

OK I got through that lot thanx now can anyone help I can't find the Sony NV-9200 multisystem u-matic on here any pointers an is it worth keeping hold of?

Problems solved thanx.Anyone want a Portable U-matic S video hav no power supply for it so int been able to use it.Its a Sony VO 4800PSmail me if anyone does.

Sony VO5800 VTR available for sale. In good working order and based in Edinburgh. Send me an email if you would like more information.

Ok new question for those who may know How or where can I get hold of a 1" reel to reel transfer machine.Ive aquired around 200 of these 1" type C masters and would either like to transfer them or get them transferred.I'm still going through machinery too yet so may come across something yet any help would be great.

i have recently bougt a Sony VO-9600P recorder, for viewing some old tapes. I was able play only 1 tape...Each time I switch on the power button, the VCR starts rewinding a little bit. Then, when I am trying to load a tape, the "Standby" indicator immediately lights on and the VCR seems "asleep", as the VO-9600P doesn't load the tape. The misfunction seems to be a black trap located on the left of the tape tray. When I gently push it with a screwdriver, the Standby indicator lights on. Does somebody already encounters this kind of problem? I would be very grateful if somebody could help me to fix this issue. Big thanks & regards, Amon

Hi and hope you are all well , has anyone started an "A" or "C" format club or chat page for the broadcast one inch reel to reel video systems,dating fron 1966 onwards which was the mainstay of broadcast for 15-20 years? Anyone interested in one inch formats or need any tapes copied to DVD or Hardrives for archive? Is anyone interested or is it only me?Thanks for reading this and any replies? Peter

Anyone HELP!Where can I get a dub in/out connector or cable for my Umatic the 7 pin one.Or anyone want to sell me one for silly money, need one desperate???????

Hi there, I have a U-matic VP9000P which has seized up - anyone want it for spares? Free if you collect. Based Northants.

Jo

Hi tony i would be happy to transfer your 1" tapes

Hi there

We have a VP-7030 which has just started giving me problems. When I press 'play' the tape plays back for up to 2 seconds then I loose display on the TV. The tape keeps turning and if I press 'pause' I get display back (on a paused frame). I am able to 'fast forward' through the tape with full display. But as soon as I press 'play' the screen just goes blank. I am connected directly to my TV using the rear BNC video output on the player. Anyone got any ideas whats going on? Thanks! Dan Smith

Hi everyone. I'm new to the site. I have just been given a Umatic 9600 SP. It looks in immaculate condition and I need to transfer a number of old Umatics to digital. When I play a tape, I get what looks like a half picture on the monitor. I can make out the image but it feels like a sync problem of some sort. Cleaned the heads as described in an online manual but the problem persists. I know it's difficult without seeing pictures but anyone got any ideas? Anyone a Umatic owner in Surrey? Thanks Alot

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Hello, I have a lot of used u-matic tapes, production and editing kit, plus Ronford Baker heavy duty tripods in flight cases, its all surplus to requirements. However I do need to transfer quite a few of my u-matic archive to DV (could be as many as 200 x 20min tapes). Perhaps a deal could be struck?

I have a Sony U Matic VO 6800 PAL/SECAM (France-EU) with the bag, but no batteries. I don't use it, so if somebody is looking for this machine send me an offer. I am located in France - Marseille.

Hi I have just been given a sony vo 5850 which I intend to use for my animations and music production does any one have any good advice for connecting it to a PC and VT purchace, I'm based in Tyneside ;)

Many Thanks